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  • #13592
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    Im Your Father
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    In other topics, people frequently talk about how Duke players consistently underachieve in the NBA. This is just not the case, certainly not more than other schools. Many people obviously don’t like Duke and I’m okay with that, but it clouds peoples vision when evaluating prospects. People call all duke players busts without really thinking about it.

    Grant Hill was a SUPERSTAR in the NBA. Do you think his career got derailed by horrible injuries because he went to Duke? That is just stupid.

    Corey Maggette consistently averages over 20ppg. I’m not calling him a star, he’s not, but he has been a solid NBA player, a great athlete and a pretty good scorer for a long time now.

    People talk shit about Elton Brand all the time. The man has averaged 20 and 10 for his career, and was an MVP candidate a few years ago. He has been hurt and underachieving in Philly, but that doesn’t erase an excellent NBA career.

    Loul Deng is another solid player, not a star, but a good 3rd option, averaging 18 and 7 this year and 16 and 6 for his career.

    Carlos Boozer is an excellent player for Utah, averaging nearly 20 and 10 in his stint for the Jazz.

    Shane Battier is one of the best defensive players in the entire league.

    Dahntay Jones is an ok player, who has developed into an excellent defender.

    Sure players like Mike Dunleavy, JJ Redick and Shelden Williams were overhyped, but they have all developed into solid NBA players. Not everyone can be a star. People look at overhyped players such as these and forget all the good players Mike Krzyzewski has put into the league.

    Everyone has bust, Jim Calhoun, Roy Williams, etc. People just tend to focus most on the Duke busts.

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  • #264205
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    knowledge585
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    lol duke players are good in the nba but only thing is they are never won a championship

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    • #264230
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      LeroyJenkins
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      danny ferry won a championship in the nba

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  • #264206
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    Im Your Father
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    People say that all time. What is your point? Do you think that is a product of them going to Duke? Many of those players one Championships and played in Final Fours in college. Do you think playing for Duke innately makes you a loser? I don’t think a player’s college has anything to do with how much they win in the NBA.

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  • #264209
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    i agree they should not be pointed out any more then most any other colleges. But there are a couple of busts that you left out like Will Avery, Trajan Langdon, bobby hurley, cherokee parks, danny ferry and even christian leattner to a lesser extent. A lot of those are from back in the day though so maybe they don’t really matter today.

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  • #264211
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    Although I don’t think it’s fair to call Hurley a bust, his career was derailed by a horrific, nearly fatal car accident. Duke DOES have busts, I would never argue with that. But so does every other team, people just tend to call out Duke for having busts more so than any other team, which is what I take issue with. Every single first round pick is not going to pan out, Duke has more busts than alot of schools, because they have a lot more players drafted. You can’t expect every good college player to be a star, and yet whenever a former Blue devil underachieves in the NBA, it is a sign that Mike Krzyzewski doesn’t develop talent.

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  • #264246
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    Laetnerr was not a bust, he was just overhyped. He had a lot of good years and a few great years. Avery to me may have been a solid player had he stayed and developed more at point gaurd. Parks was another tall guy that did not translate over

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  • #264247
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    yeah, i take the leattner bust comment back. But he did not have the career some might have expected from him. But he did make an all-star game and was a very good player for a number of years. Will Avery was supposed to be real good and went lottery. I think he defenitely should have stayed in school longer. I think hurley was gonna be a bust regardles of the car accident.

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  • #264248
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    Duke has produced an above average amount of NBA talent compared to most division 1 schools but will always be compare to rival UNC. I remember watching a UNC VS DUKE game a few years ago and they were showing the greats from both schools. First it was Latener then it was jamison. then it was cherokee parks an rasheed wallace. this went on for another minute and the last one was Grant Hill and Michael Jordan.

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  • #264250
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    Dean Smith did produce quite a bit of All Star NBA talent, but show me what Roy Williams has done in that regard. I believe his only All Star is Paul Pierce, but I could be wrong.

    And in no way does that reflect negatively on Roy Williams, in fact I think that people overrate college coaches roles on how people turn out in the NBA. I think far more has to do with the player. Frankly if a coach puts a player in position to be a lottery pick, they have done their job, after that it is up to the player to develop.

    Hell, part of the reason great coaches such as Williams and Kryzewski produce busts, is because they get the most out of their players, and get them drafted higher than they probably should be.

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  • #264317
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    If you think about it, College coaches like to go for certain players because these players fit the system they run. For example, Jim Calhoun produces a lot of good SG/SF for the NBA, exampeles; (Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Ben Gordon, Rudy Gay, and Caron Butler). These guys are studs in the NBA but Uconn Centers got most of the attention in college but don’t produce in the NBA.

    John Cal – Goes after the PGs and produces very talented PGs because of his dribble drive system. Giving the PG a chance to be ball dominate, translating into the NBA for teams with ball dominate teams.

    Duke gets overhype in college that is why thier players are consider bust. You have to give it up to Coach K because he makes his average players look better than average because they actually learn the game of basketball. Duke doesn’t have any real superstar players but they do produce a lot of productive NBA players.

    So for any highschool kid out looking to make it into the NBA, look at the college where your going to and figure out what system is best for you.

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  • #264331
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    If it weren’t for his motorcycle accident, Jay Williams might have also made this list of dukies as one of the guys having a good NBA career

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