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  • #53436
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    So you made the playoffs and had an early exit.  You end up with the 15th pick in the 2014 draft.  You look down your roster and are happy with every spot but PG.  

    Do you take Kyle Anderson with the intentions of him being a pure PG?

    I say yes.  I never trust foreign PGs that have the promise to be Jason Kidd or Steve Nash like i have heard people refer to Micic.  When drafting senior PGs, they usually end up being bench players unless they have strange circumstances.  I think outside of the obvious guys like Smart, Exum, and possibly Enis, Anderson has the most value at the PG position. 

    He has attributes those other guys dont bring.  At 6’9 he can make up for his speed with length on defense.  With his height on offense, he would be a terror for most other PGs to ever dare guarding so he provides some instant mismatch or cross guarding situations.  He may be the best passer in this draft regardless of height or position.  His 3 point shot is coming around too.  I think he has the potiental to be a guy who could average 13 points, 7 rebounds, 11 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in his prime.  Possibly more.

    Your thoughts?

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  • #863078
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    TONYDABOSS77
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     I’m as high on Anderson as anybody I know, but 11 assists is a lot. Plus, in the NBA, it isn’t about what you can do, its about who you can guard & Anderson isn’t exactly a defensive ace. A team could hide him, but with all the nice young point guards & combo guards coming in, how long will that be able to happen?

    I think he’d be best if he was paired with a nice scorer & a shot blocker. He can really pass the ball & see the court, in both the half court & in transition. I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that either the Spurs or Thunder are gonna draft him at the end of the 1st & get a steal.

    The Bulls could use him too. He’s a big body, a good rebounder, can handle it, and is a nice passer w/ length. He’s somebody you could have run your offense for stretches from Day 1. He’d take a lot of pressure off of Westbrook & Durant. 

     

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  • #862974
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    TONYDABOSS77
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     I’m as high on Anderson as anybody I know, but 11 assists is a lot. Plus, in the NBA, it isn’t about what you can do, its about who you can guard & Anderson isn’t exactly a defensive ace. A team could hide him, but with all the nice young point guards & combo guards coming in, how long will that be able to happen?

    I think he’d be best if he was paired with a nice scorer & a shot blocker. He can really pass the ball & see the court, in both the half court & in transition. I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that either the Spurs or Thunder are gonna draft him at the end of the 1st & get a steal.

    The Bulls could use him too. He’s a big body, a good rebounder, can handle it, and is a nice passer w/ length. He’s somebody you could have run your offense for stretches from Day 1. He’d take a lot of pressure off of Westbrook & Durant. 

     

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  • #862976
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    TONYDABOSS77
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    Now, if the Thunder can get both Anderson & Jordan Bachynski from Arizona St, I think that could be something that could pay off immediately.

     

     

     

     

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  • #863080
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    TONYDABOSS77
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    Now, if the Thunder can get both Anderson & Jordan Bachynski from Arizona St, I think that could be something that could pay off immediately.

     

     

     

     

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  • #862978
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     I like Anderson, but I dont think he is going to come close to 11 assists a game because he just isnt going to be on the floor that long with his defensive deficiencies

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  • #863082
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     I like Anderson, but I dont think he is going to come close to 11 assists a game because he just isnt going to be on the floor that long with his defensive deficiencies

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  • #862982
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    I don’t think Slo Mo can play the point in the Nba, he’s too slow to beat opponents off the dribble, he lacks a reliable pull up jumper and he can’t guard anyone at that position. Also, a team drafting at #15 should go for the best player available, I hardly doubt you are happy with every position in your roster if you barely made the playoffs (considering that in the East that requires a slightly above 40% record…). And if I think Micic’s good enough or if I like a senior point guard and I think they have the quality I wouldn’t pass on them just because players somehow "similar" to them have been disappointing in the past. And by the way, even assuming true the fact that senior point guards end up being back ups most of the time, it’s not like you have a top 5 pick, you’re drafting at #15, the average outcome of mid first rounder is a career back up player, if he’s a quality rotation player stick to him and whatever.

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  • #863086
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    Jester87
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    I don’t think Slo Mo can play the point in the Nba, he’s too slow to beat opponents off the dribble, he lacks a reliable pull up jumper and he can’t guard anyone at that position. Also, a team drafting at #15 should go for the best player available, I hardly doubt you are happy with every position in your roster if you barely made the playoffs (considering that in the East that requires a slightly above 40% record…). And if I think Micic’s good enough or if I like a senior point guard and I think they have the quality I wouldn’t pass on them just because players somehow "similar" to them have been disappointing in the past. And by the way, even assuming true the fact that senior point guards end up being back ups most of the time, it’s not like you have a top 5 pick, you’re drafting at #15, the average outcome of mid first rounder is a career back up player, if he’s a quality rotation player stick to him and whatever.

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  • #862984
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    Crossyboy
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    I never trust anyone who says that ANY 3young PG is going to be the next Kidd or Nash. As strong as the position is in the NBA at the moment, currently only Chris Paul or a healthy Rose are close to that level. Other than Parker & Rondo, I can’t think of the last time an elite PG was drafted outside of the top 10 , so to expect any prospect to reach that level is optimistic to say the least.

    For the record, Jason Kidd in his prime averaged just under 17ppg, 7rpg 11apg, so to expect Anderson to match his rebounds and assist numbers & to put up better stats than a perennial all-star like Rondo is crazy. 11apg is usually the league’s best average, so you’re projecting someone who is a stretch at the 15th pick to contend annually for the highest APG.

    Don’t get me wrong, I really like Slo-Mo, I’ll even go with you on the fact that he could rise to 15, but lets be realistic. If he can get 10ppg 6apg 4rpg, he’ll be doing well. Whoever drafts him would need to find a way to cover his defensive shortcomings and lack of athleticism.

    By the way; Calderon; Rubio; Parker & Dragic are all foreign starting PGs…

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  • #863088
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    I never trust anyone who says that ANY 3young PG is going to be the next Kidd or Nash. As strong as the position is in the NBA at the moment, currently only Chris Paul or a healthy Rose are close to that level. Other than Parker & Rondo, I can’t think of the last time an elite PG was drafted outside of the top 10 , so to expect any prospect to reach that level is optimistic to say the least.

    For the record, Jason Kidd in his prime averaged just under 17ppg, 7rpg 11apg, so to expect Anderson to match his rebounds and assist numbers & to put up better stats than a perennial all-star like Rondo is crazy. 11apg is usually the league’s best average, so you’re projecting someone who is a stretch at the 15th pick to contend annually for the highest APG.

    Don’t get me wrong, I really like Slo-Mo, I’ll even go with you on the fact that he could rise to 15, but lets be realistic. If he can get 10ppg 6apg 4rpg, he’ll be doing well. Whoever drafts him would need to find a way to cover his defensive shortcomings and lack of athleticism.

    By the way; Calderon; Rubio; Parker & Dragic are all foreign starting PGs…

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  • #863006
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    OneAndDone
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     I think this year that if you slip out of the lottery you hope andrew harrison leaves school early. projected by many to be a top ten pick he hasnt quite lived up to potential yet but hes still 6’6" and has a solid handle and great defensive potential. remember hes only 19 years old!!!

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  • #863111
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    OneAndDone
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     I think this year that if you slip out of the lottery you hope andrew harrison leaves school early. projected by many to be a top ten pick he hasnt quite lived up to potential yet but hes still 6’6" and has a solid handle and great defensive potential. remember hes only 19 years old!!!

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  • #863010
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    The8thDeadlySin
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     This is something that bugs me about this site and its a reason I dont get on much anymore.. Dumbasses dont answer the question.  They get caught up on a small part of it, like me projecting Anderson will have a year where he averages 11 assists.  Its sad that i order to get a straight answer, you have to post the question alone with zero insight on your opinion.  

    The Question was, Do you draft Anderson to be a PG?

    None of you fuckers answered or even got close.  

    The quality of posters on this site has dropped so far that people dont even know the question that was asked,

     

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    • #863079
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      Jester87
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      "I don’t think Slo Mo can play the point in the Nba, he’s too slow to beat opponents off the dribble, he lacks a reliable pull up jumper and he can’t guard anyone at that position."

      Why rant about posts quality and people not reading questions if you don’t read the answers in the first place?

       

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    • #863184
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      "I don’t think Slo Mo can play the point in the Nba, he’s too slow to beat opponents off the dribble, he lacks a reliable pull up jumper and he can’t guard anyone at that position."

      Why rant about posts quality and people not reading questions if you don’t read the answers in the first place?

       

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  • #863115
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    The8thDeadlySin
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     This is something that bugs me about this site and its a reason I dont get on much anymore.. Dumbasses dont answer the question.  They get caught up on a small part of it, like me projecting Anderson will have a year where he averages 11 assists.  Its sad that i order to get a straight answer, you have to post the question alone with zero insight on your opinion.  

    The Question was, Do you draft Anderson to be a PG?

    None of you fuckers answered or even got close.  

    The quality of posters on this site has dropped so far that people dont even know the question that was asked,

     

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  • #863030
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    joecheck88
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     I think it could be worth the risk to draft him as a PG. I kind of like him as a PG. I think his height and length can make up for some of his lack of quickness. There have been successful PGs that haven’t been ultra athletic and great defenders. I think he really needs to get his shot better though. Think that is a bigger key to his success than his defense will be. 

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  • #863135
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     I think it could be worth the risk to draft him as a PG. I kind of like him as a PG. I think his height and length can make up for some of his lack of quickness. There have been successful PGs that haven’t been ultra athletic and great defenders. I think he really needs to get his shot better though. Think that is a bigger key to his success than his defense will be. 

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  • #863032
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    machu46
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    I think he’d struggle to defend SFs in the NBA, much less trying to hang with PGs.

    For me, the PGs you look at after Exum and Smart (still not sure if they are even PGs to begin with) are all guys that project as backups.  I’d probably say Ucic or Jahii Carson.  Ucic reminds me a bit of a young Beno Udrih with better passing skills.  Carson is more of a wild-card; he could be that Nate Robinson kind of guy off the bench that can explode and give you a big lift sometimes, but be an inefficient chucker other nights.  Semaj Christon is another option.

    But really, these guys are probably 2nd round talents that will be pushed up if teams are desperate for help at PG.  It would probably be better to just pick up a vet for the year and wait for next year, when a guy like Tyus Jones is currently slotted to be a late lottery pick, or Kenan Sipahi, who looks like he could be a pretty good player from Turkey.  And maybe with an extra year from Andrew Harrison, we could see him start to blossom and become a more attractive prospect.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #863137
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    I think he’d struggle to defend SFs in the NBA, much less trying to hang with PGs.

    For me, the PGs you look at after Exum and Smart (still not sure if they are even PGs to begin with) are all guys that project as backups.  I’d probably say Ucic or Jahii Carson.  Ucic reminds me a bit of a young Beno Udrih with better passing skills.  Carson is more of a wild-card; he could be that Nate Robinson kind of guy off the bench that can explode and give you a big lift sometimes, but be an inefficient chucker other nights.  Semaj Christon is another option.

    But really, these guys are probably 2nd round talents that will be pushed up if teams are desperate for help at PG.  It would probably be better to just pick up a vet for the year and wait for next year, when a guy like Tyus Jones is currently slotted to be a late lottery pick, or Kenan Sipahi, who looks like he could be a pretty good player from Turkey.  And maybe with an extra year from Andrew Harrison, we could see him start to blossom and become a more attractive prospect.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #863056
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    Right now, I would like Slo Mo as a 6th man off the bench who can play point guard or small forward. 

    Maybe a few years down the road he can be a top notch starting point guard.  More likely, he projects best as a "point forward" type, but that would mean that he needs to improve his jumper and get a solid post game. 

    I would like to see what the Spurs could do with him.  They use Boris Diaw effectively, and I think Slo Mo could be a guy like that to begin with, and then be Tony Parker’s backup later on. 

    The Spurs could also go small with Slo Mo and Kawhi Leonard at the forward spots with Duncan at center, and TP with Manu/Marco at shooting guard.

     

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  • #863160
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    Right now, I would like Slo Mo as a 6th man off the bench who can play point guard or small forward. 

    Maybe a few years down the road he can be a top notch starting point guard.  More likely, he projects best as a "point forward" type, but that would mean that he needs to improve his jumper and get a solid post game. 

    I would like to see what the Spurs could do with him.  They use Boris Diaw effectively, and I think Slo Mo could be a guy like that to begin with, and then be Tony Parker’s backup later on. 

    The Spurs could also go small with Slo Mo and Kawhi Leonard at the forward spots with Duncan at center, and TP with Manu/Marco at shooting guard.

     

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  • #863101
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     Anderson is just way to slow to play guard, let alone the 1, at the NBA level. Sorry to shoot down your post, but speed/quickness is vital forboth guard positions. The reason being, if someone like Anderson is your PG, then who do have at the other spots to make up for that lack of footspeed? 

    Now maybe what you meant to say, is that a team could run their offense through him. Sorta like what the Grizzles did with Pau Gasol. While I still disagree that an NBA offense can go through Anderson, I suppose that’s not too farfetched. 

    IMO, Anderson reminds me of a Euroball player. He’s heady with good fundamentals, just doesn’t have the coveted ahtleticism that scouts bank on. So it really depends who drafts Slo-Mo, because it needs to be a team that knows how to use him. He needs touches in order to show off his passing ability. A team like the Knicks, who are Melo-centered would be awful for Anderson. I could see him being a good fit with Houston, of course the Spurs would be ideal..

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  • #863206
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     Anderson is just way to slow to play guard, let alone the 1, at the NBA level. Sorry to shoot down your post, but speed/quickness is vital forboth guard positions. The reason being, if someone like Anderson is your PG, then who do have at the other spots to make up for that lack of footspeed? 

    Now maybe what you meant to say, is that a team could run their offense through him. Sorta like what the Grizzles did with Pau Gasol. While I still disagree that an NBA offense can go through Anderson, I suppose that’s not too farfetched. 

    IMO, Anderson reminds me of a Euroball player. He’s heady with good fundamentals, just doesn’t have the coveted ahtleticism that scouts bank on. So it really depends who drafts Slo-Mo, because it needs to be a team that knows how to use him. He needs touches in order to show off his passing ability. A team like the Knicks, who are Melo-centered would be awful for Anderson. I could see him being a good fit with Houston, of course the Spurs would be ideal..

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  • #863238
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    No_Left,  I also think that the Grizzlies could use Slo Mo with a mid-first/late first round pick.  He can give us depth at small forward (to replace Prince or Mike Miller) and handle some backup point guard duties. 

    I think he has value in today’s league full of flex and motion offenses.  He can create and has a variety of skills even if he isn’t a knockdown shooter.  He sounds like a valuable rotation guy if he finds a good fit.

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  • #863132
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    No_Left,  I also think that the Grizzlies could use Slo Mo with a mid-first/late first round pick.  He can give us depth at small forward (to replace Prince or Mike Miller) and handle some backup point guard duties. 

    I think he has value in today’s league full of flex and motion offenses.  He can create and has a variety of skills even if he isn’t a knockdown shooter.  He sounds like a valuable rotation guy if he finds a good fit.

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