[GoblinkParticipant]

Curious to hear other peoples takes on what players from this draft (and I would also include trades) will be fantasy relevant next season. Fantasy Basketball player value depends alot on opportunity. My list;

Lowrie/Baron: Haven’t seen him play much but he seems to project as a solid competent PG. Even though he is a #1 pick PG I don’t see him having explosive numbers. He also has a veteran presence in Baron Davis (who seemedd indignant about being moved to the Cavs but immediately went into im the franchise guy here mode, but given that he won’t lift weights or work out can’t fall in love with his aging body). I could see Baron Lowrie playing together but big Booby Gibs might interfere with that. Also Sessions but im betting he gets moved. Probably Lowrie has a season like Darren Collison last years disappointing one (~13 ppg 5.5 assist). I expect about the same for Baron.

Kanter: Wow Utah 4 quality bigs in Millsap, Al Jeffe, late season Favors and now Kanter? That is one awfully crowded front-court, I could see Millsaps value taking a hit. My money is still on another big year for big Al unless he gets moved. Really hurts Favors value and I don’t see any for Kanter. Damn and if Okur comes back…

Jimmer: Good FT%, scoring but probably not alot else. Very curious to see how he and Marcus Thornton co-exist. Probably a situation I look to avoid.

Brandon Knight: Awfully crowded backcourt, hard for me to consider.

Vesely: Good thing he has that babe, because he won’t be getting any action on the court. I’m betting about the same for Singler, less because of these guys talent and more because of the developing super freak athlete McGee and Blatche (who the numbers loved at end of year and I thought he was doing a better job not settling for long bad jumpers and attacking the rim/getting teammates involved).

Moriss’: Too many players to compete with at position on respective teams to do much.

Tristan Thompson: Seems like a valuable mid round pick. A 3 for the Cavs? Probably plenty of minutes would project as a plus rebounder and blocker for a 3. His defense sounded impressive at workouts. Im thinking late round pick, maybe steal.

Klay Thompson: A warriors blockbuster trade seems to be getting less likely, but with my favorite teams lack of depth easily for me to see him as backup 2 and 3 if not 6th man (unless the Warriors tried my controversial theory of moving Ellis or Curry to 6th man). Not draftable but watch list material imo.

Derrick Williams: Even with the very forward situation for Minnesota, I see Williams getting plenty of time and points. A good overall player and offensive force, I remain concerned his non-scoring numbers make him more than a mid rounder.

Biyombo: Obviously terrible offensive stats even if better than expected but off the chart boards/min & blocks/min. My question is whether he gets enough minutes, especialy with Tyrus Thomas being somewhat similar player, at least in terms of blocks, also taking PF minutes. So Biyombo probably then ends up with 20-25 minutes a game. With the comparisons to Ben Wallace, is it possible Biyombo can be put into the starting center spot over Kwame?

Raymond Felton: handed the keys to an offense back. Since it is a half court dominant Portland team and not Dantoni’s Knicks (when they had him + other personel letting them actually run Dantoni offense) I am thinking more similiar numbers to his stay in charollete than last year as a Knick.

Lawson: Though Andre Miller is still very capable of producing I see Lawson starting and being a mid level PG given his tremendous speed and good upside for this up-tempto team.

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 It will be hard to Have a fantasy Season, when there is not going to be a real season,

(but if you know a good Euro Fantasy League, I will join!!!)

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 It will be hard to Have a fantasy Season, when there is not going to be a real season,

(but if you know a good Euro Fantasy League, I will join!!!)

[Johnny Chill]

Your the only person on nbadraft.net that doesn’t know Kyrie Irving was the #1 pick by the Cavs.

[GoblinkParticipant]

I did mean Kyrie, accidentally put Lowrie on part about him/cavs/baron.

[GoblinkParticipant]

I did mean Kyrie, accidentally put Lowrie on part about him/cavs/baron.

[Johnny Chill]

Your the only person on nbadraft.net that doesn’t know Kyrie Irving was the #1 pick by the Cavs.

[tke744Participant]

your the only person on nbadraft.net that obviously he meant Kyrie and it was a typo.

[tke744Participant]

your the only person on nbadraft.net that obviously he meant Kyrie and it was a typo.

[tke744Participant]

on nbadraft.net that didnt know*

[tke744Participant]

on nbadraft.net that didnt know*

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

I don’t see a ton of the guys from the draft people are going to want, though I would keep my eyes open should New Orleans (small market team with just mid-to-big money players on their roster and in need of filling it out) bring in an undrafted player or two.

Keith Benson, Atlanta- Barring injuries or significant move, outside regular rotation

JaJuan Johnson, Boston- 12-15 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 3-5 RPG 0.5-1.0 BPG, 54-58 FG%

Kemba Walker, Charlotte- 23-29 minutes, 7-11 PPG, 35-40 FG%, 25-30 3FG%, 4-5 APG, 2-4 RPG, 0.5-1.0 SPG

Bismack Biyombo, Charlotte- 14-17 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 3-4 RPG, 1-1.5 BPG, 0.0-0.3 APG, 1-2 TOPG, 2-3 FPG

Jimmy Butler, Chicago- Barring injuries, outside regular rotation

Kyrie Irving, Cleveland- 27-31 minutes, 13-16 PPG, 5-7 APG, 1-1.5 SPG, 43-46 FG%, 2-4 RPG

Tristan Thompson, Cleveland-22-26 minutes, 7-10 PPG, 5-7 RPG, 1.0-2.0 BPG, 55-60 FG%

Jordan Hamilton, Denver- Too much uncertainty with Denver wings (Afflalo, Smith, Chandler)

Brandon Knight, Detroit- 25-30 minutes, 11-14 PPG, 4-6 APG, 0.8-1.5 SPG, 38-43 FG%, 34-37 3FG%

Klay Thompson, Golden State- 18-22 minutes, 7-10 PPG, 1-2 APG, 2-3 RPG, 38-42 FG%, 35-38 3FG%

Marcus Morris, Houston- Too much uncertainty with Houston frontcourt to really grasp where his minutes will come from (Biedrins trade? Scola, Patterson, and Hill) Most likely- 15-17 minutes, 6-8 PPG, 4-5 RPG, 0.5-1.5 APG, 50-55 FG%

Trey Thompkins, Los Angeles C- 10-15 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 3-5 RPG, 50-55 FG%

Darius Morris, Los Angeles L- On the fringe of minutes, 9-13 minutes, 3-5 PPG, 2-3 APG, 1-2 RPG, 42-45 FG%

Norris Cole, Miami- If Chalmers stays in Miami, outside regular rotation. If Chalmers signs elsewhere, 18-22 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 2-3 APG, 2-3 RPG, 39-42 FG%, 33-37 3FG%

Tobias Harris, Milwaukee- Barring injuries, outside regular rotation

Jon Leuer, Milwaukee- 9-12 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 2.5-3.5 RPG

Derrick Williams, Minnesota- 25-30 minutes, 13-16 PPG, 4-6 RPG, 0.5-1.0 APG, 46-50 FG%

Ricky Rubio, Minnesota- 24-28 minutes, 6-7 PPG, 5-7 APG, 0.8-1.2 SPG, 2-4 RPG, 35-39 FG% 18-25 3FG%

Marshon Brooks, New Jersey- (Assuming Vujacic leaves) 19-24 minutes, 8-12 PPG, 0.5-1.0 APG, 2-3 RPG, 0.8.-1.2 SPG, 36-40 FG%, 25-30 3FG%

Jordan Williams, New Jersey- (It depends on whether Humphries stays or not) Most likely, 10-15 minutes, 3-5 PPG, 4-6 RPG, 55-60 FG%

Iman Shumpert, New York- (possibly outside the rotation) 10-14 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 1-2 APG, 0.7-1.4 TOPG, 1-2 RPG, 0.4-0.8 SPG, 35-40 FG%

Reggie Jackson, Oklahoma City- (It depends on whether they move Maynor or not) If so, 12-15 minutes, 3-5 PPG, 1-2 RPG, 1.5-2.5 APG, 37-41 FG%. If not, outside rotation

Justin Harper, Orlando- 14-19 minutes, 6-8 PPG, 3-4 RPG, 40-45 FG%, 35-39 3FG%

DeAndre Liggins, Orlando- 12-16 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 1-2 RPG, 0.8-1.3 APG, 0.5-1.0 SPG, 40-45 FG%

Nikola Vucevic, Philadelphia- (It depends on whether Hawes stays or not) If so, 10-14 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 4-5 RPG, 53-58 FG%. If Hawes is gone, 20-25 minutes, 9-13 PPG, 6-7 RPG, 1-2 APG, 49-53 FG% (more a part of the offense not just living off dumpoffs)

Markieff Morris, Phoenix- 16-20 minutes, 5-7 PPG, 5-6 RPG, 0.5-1.0 BPG, 53-57 FG%

Nolan Smith, Portland- 8-12 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 0.5-1.5 APG, 0.5-1.5 RPG, 37-41 FG%

Jon Diebler, Portland- 7-11 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 40-45 3FG%

Jimmer Fredette, Sacramento- 29-34 minutes, 14-18 PPG, 4-5 APG, 0.6-1.1 SPG, 2-3 RPG, 42-46 FG%, 37-41 3FG%

Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio- 22-26 minutes, 6-8 PPG, 1-2 APG, 4-6 RPG, 1.0-1.5 SPG, 43-47 FG%, 20-30 3FG%

Cory Joseph, San Antonio- Outside the rotation

Enes Kanter, Utah- I think he will miss time due to injuries, but when healthy, 23-28 minutes, 11-14 points, 6-8 rebounds, 1-2 APG, 0.6-1.0 BPG, 0.6-1.0 SPG

Alec Burks, Utah- 27-33 minutes, 14-18 PPG, 2.5-3.5 APG, 2.5-4 RPG, 41-45 FG%, 28-33 3FG%

Jan Vesely, Washington- 23-28 minutes, 8-10 PPG, 1-2 APG, 5-7 RPG, 0.7-1.2 BPG, 0.7-1.2 SPG, 45-49 FG%

Chris Singleton, Washington- 9-12 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 2-3 RPG, 0.0-0.5 APG, 0.4-0.9 SPG, 0.4-0.9 BPG, 35-40 FG%, 0.5-1.0 TOPG, 1.5-2.5 FPG

Shelvin Mack, Washington- 7-12 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 1.5-2.5 APG, 0.7-1.3 RPG, 38-42 FG%, 33-36 3FG%

 

 

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

I don’t see a ton of the guys from the draft people are going to want, though I would keep my eyes open should New Orleans (small market team with just mid-to-big money players on their roster and in need of filling it out) bring in an undrafted player or two.

Keith Benson, Atlanta- Barring injuries or significant move, outside regular rotation

JaJuan Johnson, Boston- 12-15 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 3-5 RPG 0.5-1.0 BPG, 54-58 FG%

Kemba Walker, Charlotte- 23-29 minutes, 7-11 PPG, 35-40 FG%, 25-30 3FG%, 4-5 APG, 2-4 RPG, 0.5-1.0 SPG

Bismack Biyombo, Charlotte- 14-17 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 3-4 RPG, 1-1.5 BPG, 0.0-0.3 APG, 1-2 TOPG, 2-3 FPG

Jimmy Butler, Chicago- Barring injuries, outside regular rotation

Kyrie Irving, Cleveland- 27-31 minutes, 13-16 PPG, 5-7 APG, 1-1.5 SPG, 43-46 FG%, 2-4 RPG

Tristan Thompson, Cleveland-22-26 minutes, 7-10 PPG, 5-7 RPG, 1.0-2.0 BPG, 55-60 FG%

Jordan Hamilton, Denver- Too much uncertainty with Denver wings (Afflalo, Smith, Chandler)

Brandon Knight, Detroit- 25-30 minutes, 11-14 PPG, 4-6 APG, 0.8-1.5 SPG, 38-43 FG%, 34-37 3FG%

Klay Thompson, Golden State- 18-22 minutes, 7-10 PPG, 1-2 APG, 2-3 RPG, 38-42 FG%, 35-38 3FG%

Marcus Morris, Houston- Too much uncertainty with Houston frontcourt to really grasp where his minutes will come from (Biedrins trade? Scola, Patterson, and Hill) Most likely- 15-17 minutes, 6-8 PPG, 4-5 RPG, 0.5-1.5 APG, 50-55 FG%

Trey Thompkins, Los Angeles C- 10-15 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 3-5 RPG, 50-55 FG%

Darius Morris, Los Angeles L- On the fringe of minutes, 9-13 minutes, 3-5 PPG, 2-3 APG, 1-2 RPG, 42-45 FG%

Norris Cole, Miami- If Chalmers stays in Miami, outside regular rotation. If Chalmers signs elsewhere, 18-22 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 2-3 APG, 2-3 RPG, 39-42 FG%, 33-37 3FG%

Tobias Harris, Milwaukee- Barring injuries, outside regular rotation

Jon Leuer, Milwaukee- 9-12 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 2.5-3.5 RPG

Derrick Williams, Minnesota- 25-30 minutes, 13-16 PPG, 4-6 RPG, 0.5-1.0 APG, 46-50 FG%

Ricky Rubio, Minnesota- 24-28 minutes, 6-7 PPG, 5-7 APG, 0.8-1.2 SPG, 2-4 RPG, 35-39 FG% 18-25 3FG%

Marshon Brooks, New Jersey- (Assuming Vujacic leaves) 19-24 minutes, 8-12 PPG, 0.5-1.0 APG, 2-3 RPG, 0.8.-1.2 SPG, 36-40 FG%, 25-30 3FG%

Jordan Williams, New Jersey- (It depends on whether Humphries stays or not) Most likely, 10-15 minutes, 3-5 PPG, 4-6 RPG, 55-60 FG%

Iman Shumpert, New York- (possibly outside the rotation) 10-14 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 1-2 APG, 0.7-1.4 TOPG, 1-2 RPG, 0.4-0.8 SPG, 35-40 FG%

Reggie Jackson, Oklahoma City- (It depends on whether they move Maynor or not) If so, 12-15 minutes, 3-5 PPG, 1-2 RPG, 1.5-2.5 APG, 37-41 FG%. If not, outside rotation

Justin Harper, Orlando- 14-19 minutes, 6-8 PPG, 3-4 RPG, 40-45 FG%, 35-39 3FG%

DeAndre Liggins, Orlando- 12-16 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 1-2 RPG, 0.8-1.3 APG, 0.5-1.0 SPG, 40-45 FG%

Nikola Vucevic, Philadelphia- (It depends on whether Hawes stays or not) If so, 10-14 minutes, 4-6 PPG, 4-5 RPG, 53-58 FG%. If Hawes is gone, 20-25 minutes, 9-13 PPG, 6-7 RPG, 1-2 APG, 49-53 FG% (more a part of the offense not just living off dumpoffs)

Markieff Morris, Phoenix- 16-20 minutes, 5-7 PPG, 5-6 RPG, 0.5-1.0 BPG, 53-57 FG%

Nolan Smith, Portland- 8-12 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 0.5-1.5 APG, 0.5-1.5 RPG, 37-41 FG%

Jon Diebler, Portland- 7-11 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 40-45 3FG%

Jimmer Fredette, Sacramento- 29-34 minutes, 14-18 PPG, 4-5 APG, 0.6-1.1 SPG, 2-3 RPG, 42-46 FG%, 37-41 3FG%

Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio- 22-26 minutes, 6-8 PPG, 1-2 APG, 4-6 RPG, 1.0-1.5 SPG, 43-47 FG%, 20-30 3FG%

Cory Joseph, San Antonio- Outside the rotation

Enes Kanter, Utah- I think he will miss time due to injuries, but when healthy, 23-28 minutes, 11-14 points, 6-8 rebounds, 1-2 APG, 0.6-1.0 BPG, 0.6-1.0 SPG

Alec Burks, Utah- 27-33 minutes, 14-18 PPG, 2.5-3.5 APG, 2.5-4 RPG, 41-45 FG%, 28-33 3FG%

Jan Vesely, Washington- 23-28 minutes, 8-10 PPG, 1-2 APG, 5-7 RPG, 0.7-1.2 BPG, 0.7-1.2 SPG, 45-49 FG%

Chris Singleton, Washington- 9-12 minutes, 3-4 PPG, 2-3 RPG, 0.0-0.5 APG, 0.4-0.9 SPG, 0.4-0.9 BPG, 35-40 FG%, 0.5-1.0 TOPG, 1.5-2.5 FPG

Shelvin Mack, Washington- 7-12 minutes, 4-5 PPG, 1.5-2.5 APG, 0.7-1.3 RPG, 38-42 FG%, 33-36 3FG%

 

 

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

I like many of your predictions, very realistic and a solid job. Do not mean to be nit picky, but do you really only see Kemba averaging so few points in his minutes in Charlotte? Who in the heck else is going to score? I know Maggette will probably be an answer, as could be a FA pick-up (possibly even Vince Carter once Phoenix cuts him), but I think Kemba will have a license to score for that team and that they will try too dump Augustin. I am sure the percentages will be low, but he is probably a type of player that will average around 20 points per 48 minutes, and you have him at somewhere around 14-18. I would definitely go with the higher of the two, but just wanted to know your thought process.

Also, as far as Vucevic is concerned, while I agree he could see real rotation minutes in Philly regardless of Spencer Hawes being there or not, his numbers seem to be astronomical on a per minute basis. You have him at around 21.6/25 ppg per 48, which would be incredibly high. I guess it is not unheard of, but it is indeed quite high. Nikola Pekovic was at 19.4 last year, but he again was playing very few minutes on a relatively awful team. Spencer Hawes was at around 16.4, and Marreese Speights was at around 22. I think that Vucevic would be more likely closer to Hawes than Speights. Also, his rebounding numbers seem really high. Your favorite Bulls punching bag back-up Center, Omer Asik, averaged 14.9 rebounds per 48 minutes. This was good enough for 11th in the league, and he averaged 3.7 rpg in 12.1 minutes. Do you really think Vucevic comes on the scene and provides those types of huge numbers in that little amount of time? I know he is a favorite of yours, and I do not expect him to be a bum, but I think that you either need to increase his minutes or decrease his totals accordingly.

Definitely want to hear your counter, and again, I believe that most of your predicts are pretty solid. Just wondering if maybe looking at things on a per minute basis, not to mention looking at realistic totals from a team approach, might be the best way of getting them even more solid. I know they were probably just off of the top of your head, but wondered if you cared to elaborate on your reasoning behind these two in particular.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

I like many of your predictions, very realistic and a solid job. Do not mean to be nit picky, but do you really only see Kemba averaging so few points in his minutes in Charlotte? Who in the heck else is going to score? I know Maggette will probably be an answer, as could be a FA pick-up (possibly even Vince Carter once Phoenix cuts him), but I think Kemba will have a license to score for that team and that they will try too dump Augustin. I am sure the percentages will be low, but he is probably a type of player that will average around 20 points per 48 minutes, and you have him at somewhere around 14-18. I would definitely go with the higher of the two, but just wanted to know your thought process.

Also, as far as Vucevic is concerned, while I agree he could see real rotation minutes in Philly regardless of Spencer Hawes being there or not, his numbers seem to be astronomical on a per minute basis. You have him at around 21.6/25 ppg per 48, which would be incredibly high. I guess it is not unheard of, but it is indeed quite high. Nikola Pekovic was at 19.4 last year, but he again was playing very few minutes on a relatively awful team. Spencer Hawes was at around 16.4, and Marreese Speights was at around 22. I think that Vucevic would be more likely closer to Hawes than Speights. Also, his rebounding numbers seem really high. Your favorite Bulls punching bag back-up Center, Omer Asik, averaged 14.9 rebounds per 48 minutes. This was good enough for 11th in the league, and he averaged 3.7 rpg in 12.1 minutes. Do you really think Vucevic comes on the scene and provides those types of huge numbers in that little amount of time? I know he is a favorite of yours, and I do not expect him to be a bum, but I think that you either need to increase his minutes or decrease his totals accordingly.

Definitely want to hear your counter, and again, I believe that most of your predicts are pretty solid. Just wondering if maybe looking at things on a per minute basis, not to mention looking at realistic totals from a team approach, might be the best way of getting them even more solid. I know they were probably just off of the top of your head, but wondered if you cared to elaborate on your reasoning behind these two in particular.

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