[hoopscopParticipant]

There should be now a better feel for 2014 and I do really really like this draft but this is not the mega mother of all drafts. This Chad Ford hyperbole is absolutely nonsense, and the first 6-7 picks are not surefire worldbeaters, cant miss franchise types. Wiggins is no LBJ and Embiid is no Olajuwon (Hakeem was one of the most athletic, coordinated and selfmotivated big people in the history of sports, so). It is the unbelievable quality depth that makes this draft. Guys in the 20s like Payne, Kyle Anderson or Payton could make it big, so yes, very good draft but not the best of all time. 2015 could even eclipse 2014, Okafor, Turner, Alexander or Stanley Johnson will be stars and guys like Jabari, Embiid, the Harrisons even Wiggins could be back.  

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

I was just thinking that Kyle Anderson would be good, too.  He is a playmaker with size which is a big deal right now.  He can come off the bench and play point guard and give your team a size advantage. 

The big thing for him is, will he be comfortable playing the 3?  Another, can he improve his shooting?

I think he is in that 10-20 range.  He is the guy you go with if you want a playmaker off the bench.  I think he would be a great sixth man starting out, with the opportunity to be a top shelf starting point guard.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

I was just thinking that Kyle Anderson would be good, too.  He is a playmaker with size which is a big deal right now.  He can come off the bench and play point guard and give your team a size advantage. 

The big thing for him is, will he be comfortable playing the 3?  Another, can he improve his shooting?

I think he is in that 10-20 range.  He is the guy you go with if you want a playmaker off the bench.  I think he would be a great sixth man starting out, with the opportunity to be a top shelf starting point guard.

[goldie92689Participant]

Kyle will not be a guard in the nba, although he may be running the point…..get it?  Saying that he may be a top shelf starting pg is like saying anthony mason was starting pg. 

[goldie92689Participant]

Kyle will not be a guard in the nba, although he may be running the point…..get it?  Saying that he may be a top shelf starting pg is like saying anthony mason was starting pg. 

[BajeebzParticipant]

You may end up being right, but just because there isn’t a Durant or Beasley putting up 30 and 10 games every single night, that doesn’t mean that this class doesn’t have great star potential. Paul George is good example; A player who was good in college, but then used the NBA to learn and develop into the franchise player that he’s become.

Why do we expect 18 year olds to be fully developed products? I ask this because basketball history is full of great players who when they were teenagers, weren’t perfect players. Look at the 1984 Draft. Jordan, Olajuwon, Barkley, Stockton; all NBA HOF’ers. Look at their freshman statistics.

Jordan averaged 13.5 ppg. Hakeem averaged 8.3 pg. Barkley had 12.7 ppg. Stockton, 3.1 ppg.

Chad Ford is not a fortune teller, he’s a basketball analyst who gets paid to have an opinion.

I’m watching Kansas right now: Wiggins just split two defenders, almost lost the ball, spun in the lane, and finised with a double clutch lay up. Sick.

[BajeebzParticipant]

You may end up being right, but just because there isn’t a Durant or Beasley putting up 30 and 10 games every single night, that doesn’t mean that this class doesn’t have great star potential. Paul George is good example; A player who was good in college, but then used the NBA to learn and develop into the franchise player that he’s become.

Why do we expect 18 year olds to be fully developed products? I ask this because basketball history is full of great players who when they were teenagers, weren’t perfect players. Look at the 1984 Draft. Jordan, Olajuwon, Barkley, Stockton; all NBA HOF’ers. Look at their freshman statistics.

Jordan averaged 13.5 ppg. Hakeem averaged 8.3 pg. Barkley had 12.7 ppg. Stockton, 3.1 ppg.

Chad Ford is not a fortune teller, he’s a basketball analyst who gets paid to have an opinion.

I’m watching Kansas right now: Wiggins just split two defenders, almost lost the ball, spun in the lane, and finised with a double clutch lay up. Sick.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

I agree with you.  We are supposed to take all of this scouting info we have and use them as guidelines because almost every year people miss on one serious prospect.  

As far as the 2015 class goes, I would say that right now Embiid is a better prospect than Okafor, and both Parker and Wiggins are better prospects than Stanley Johnson.

  

[Magic JordanParticipant]

I agree with you.  We are supposed to take all of this scouting info we have and use them as guidelines because almost every year people miss on one serious prospect.  

As far as the 2015 class goes, I would say that right now Embiid is a better prospect than Okafor, and both Parker and Wiggins are better prospects than Stanley Johnson.

  

[jwall1Participant]

The reality when talking about some of these prospects in the draft is that noone knows how they will develop. The people that have been comparing Wiggins and Embiid to Jordan and Olajuwon are comparing simply on similarities. Does it mean they will reach that level, of-course not. I think what sets this part is that the top 6 prospects have potential to be franchise stars in the NBA. Specifically Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Smart, Randle, and Exum (of what I have heard) have some ridiculous skill. We really have not seen a draft like this in a while. I also think there could be a few more start outside of that top 6. 

[jwall1Participant]

The reality when talking about some of these prospects in the draft is that noone knows how they will develop. The people that have been comparing Wiggins and Embiid to Jordan and Olajuwon are comparing simply on similarities. Does it mean they will reach that level, of-course not. I think what sets this part is that the top 6 prospects have potential to be franchise stars in the NBA. Specifically Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Smart, Randle, and Exum (of what I have heard) have some ridiculous skill. We really have not seen a draft like this in a while. I also think there could be a few more start outside of that top 6. 

[Ghost01Participant]

 Generally the OP is 100% correct, but in classic draftnet fashion he has been negged for saying something negative. 

This draft class has not been great. Honestly, the most intriguing thing about it really is its depth. There is no doubt a cut off after the top 6 or 7, but its not like any of those guys look like sure thing super stars. All of thme have fairly decent potential and any could be a multi time all star. But none of them looking like sure fire Super Stars either. Parker is probably the safest pick, because its hard to imagine his scoring not translating. Marcus Smart should be able to be a nice combo guard, but his ceiling isn’t that high. Other than that its probably a mix of hits and misses that GMs will have to get right or probably lose their jobs. This feels like a draft that in 5 years we are going to say "I can’t believe (blank) got picked 2 spots ahead of (blank). 

Again – I am not in any way saying this isn’t one of the most intriguing classes in recent memory. But the hyperbole, and the lengthy discussion about how great all these players were supposed to be, specifically Wiggins, was so blown out of proportion. 

This class is probably a slighly weaker version of the 2008 class. A solid top 5-6, but with some possible flops involved, backed by a very nice 7-25 with a lot of potential role players. Hopefully there is no Joe Alexander though. 

 

 

 

[Ghost01Participant]

 Generally the OP is 100% correct, but in classic draftnet fashion he has been negged for saying something negative. 

This draft class has not been great. Honestly, the most intriguing thing about it really is its depth. There is no doubt a cut off after the top 6 or 7, but its not like any of those guys look like sure thing super stars. All of thme have fairly decent potential and any could be a multi time all star. But none of them looking like sure fire Super Stars either. Parker is probably the safest pick, because its hard to imagine his scoring not translating. Marcus Smart should be able to be a nice combo guard, but his ceiling isn’t that high. Other than that its probably a mix of hits and misses that GMs will have to get right or probably lose their jobs. This feels like a draft that in 5 years we are going to say "I can’t believe (blank) got picked 2 spots ahead of (blank). 

Again – I am not in any way saying this isn’t one of the most intriguing classes in recent memory. But the hyperbole, and the lengthy discussion about how great all these players were supposed to be, specifically Wiggins, was so blown out of proportion. 

This class is probably a slighly weaker version of the 2008 class. A solid top 5-6, but with some possible flops involved, backed by a very nice 7-25 with a lot of potential role players. Hopefully there is no Joe Alexander though. 

 

 

 

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