[livinlegend4blkParticipant]

 Hey guys I been not able to login for years now and today I decided to create another account but I been on this site every day since I believe Doug perfect player comparison is peja Stojakovic opinions? ?

[Champzilla21Participant]

 I think he could be a way better on ball defender and team defender then Peja ever was but dude, he could put the ball in the net. Averaged 20 pts his third season in the leauge and for the next 6 seasons averaged about 21 pts on 47% shooting 42 from deep and 89 from the line. With his best line at 24 pts 6 rebs on 48/43/93. I dont ever seeing him approaching those levels but i think he could be a more well rounded player then Peja. Will have to do more of the dirty work to stay on the court but a 15 pts 7 reb shooting a dec percentage career wouldnt be out of the question.

[Champzilla21Participant]

 I think he could be a way better on ball defender and team defender then Peja ever was but dude, he could put the ball in the net. Averaged 20 pts his third season in the leauge and for the next 6 seasons averaged about 21 pts on 47% shooting 42 from deep and 89 from the line. With his best line at 24 pts 6 rebs on 48/43/93. I dont ever seeing him approaching those levels but i think he could be a more well rounded player then Peja. Will have to do more of the dirty work to stay on the court but a 15 pts 7 reb shooting a dec percentage career wouldnt be out of the question.

[R.JLewisParticipant]

 i find him overated. he balls at a college player but he just isnt athletic enough to become a star in my eyes even though some have put him in the late lotto. i reckon he would become a 6th man at best but chnaces are just a handy role player. 

[R.JLewisParticipant]

 i find him overated. he balls at a college player but he just isnt athletic enough to become a star in my eyes even though some have put him in the late lotto. i reckon he would become a 6th man at best but chnaces are just a handy role player. 

[livinlegend4blkParticipant]

 I agree but if he comes off screens and get the ball his shot is purely great and he has a post game and can pass out the post so he would be a miss match and would do great in a system like the bulls and spurs

[livinlegend4blkParticipant]

 I agree but if he comes off screens and get the ball his shot is purely great and he has a post game and can pass out the post so he would be a miss match and would do great in a system like the bulls and spurs

[PhillytheKid]

I’d love to see McDermott and Parker, two of the highest bball IQs in college together.  

MCW, McD, Parker, Young, and Noel, bring some FA, and a smart coach in Brown.  Would love to watch.

 

You’d have a 6’6” PG, a 6’8′ SG, a 6’9” SF, a 6’9” PF, and a 7′ C.  The 1,2, and 3 can do it all.  I don’t understand why this lineup woudln’t work.  Bring 6’5” Wroten off the bench.   

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

 Who defends SGs in your logic? Or fast PGs?

[PhillytheKid]

the reason i like Parker with McD is becuase both guys play the game so well, so fluid.  I’d love to watch it.

Wiggins is more pensive…less of a "team" player, playing within a system.  When its in Wiggins hands, its should he explode tothe hole or dribble and put up the shot.  Ball won’t move around as much but of course I love Wiggins.

 

But for ball movement purposes, I’d love to see bball with both Parker and McD on the same team.

 

Defensively, I just wonder why you can’t put a long team out there and see what happens.  MCW can lock in and defend anyone, regardless of size and then you have Noel waiting under the rim.  Noel would be the huge factor on defense.  But solid help defense underneath with Parker and McDermott….and they’d be alright.  

  

[PhillytheKid]

the reason i like Parker with McD is becuase both guys play the game so well, so fluid.  I’d love to watch it.

Wiggins is more pensive…less of a "team" player, playing within a system.  When its in Wiggins hands, its should he explode tothe hole or dribble and put up the shot.  Ball won’t move around as much but of course I love Wiggins.

 

But for ball movement purposes, I’d love to see bball with both Parker and McD on the same team.

 

Defensively, I just wonder why you can’t put a long team out there and see what happens.  MCW can lock in and defend anyone, regardless of size and then you have Noel waiting under the rim.  Noel would be the huge factor on defense.  But solid help defense underneath with Parker and McDermott….and they’d be alright.  

  

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

 Who defends SGs in your logic? Or fast PGs?

[fundamentalsforfunParticipant]

I think Wiggins actually works better than Parker with Doug for the Sixers, as he has the potential of a lock down defender with his great foot speed and hops, and McDermott the more reliable scorer. Ovbiously, these lineups are all reliant upon the draft …

[fundamentalsforfunParticipant]

I think Wiggins actually works better than Parker with Doug for the Sixers, as he has the potential of a lock down defender with his great foot speed and hops, and McDermott the more reliable scorer. Ovbiously, these lineups are all reliant upon the draft …

[runBruceParticipant]

Dude, not to call you out too bad but on 02/26/2014 you said:

 "Why would Philly take Parker AND McDermott when both are defensive liabilities and the Sixers are giving up 120 points to the Bucks at this present time?"

Have Parker and McDermott learned to play D in the past two weeks?

 

 

[runBruceParticipant]

Dude, not to call you out too bad but on 02/26/2014 you said:

 "Why would Philly take Parker AND McDermott when both are defensive liabilities and the Sixers are giving up 120 points to the Bucks at this present time?"

Have Parker and McDermott learned to play D in the past two weeks?

 

 

[PhillytheKid]

I’d love to see McDermott and Parker, two of the highest bball IQs in college together.  

MCW, McD, Parker, Young, and Noel, bring some FA, and a smart coach in Brown.  Would love to watch.

 

You’d have a 6’6” PG, a 6’8′ SG, a 6’9” SF, a 6’9” PF, and a 7′ C.  The 1,2, and 3 can do it all.  I don’t understand why this lineup woudln’t work.  Bring 6’5” Wroten off the bench.   

[livinlegend4blkParticipant]

PhillyTheKid I agree run and gun team and they can spread the ball like the Knicks did last year and shot all three pointers

[livinlegend4blkParticipant]

PhillyTheKid I agree run and gun team and they can spread the ball like the Knicks did last year and shot all three pointers

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 I think he is going to a great combo forward, spark plug off the bench, perhaps even a starter for a team that plays with a defined system predicated on ball movement and the next pass. He can hit threes on guys who are bigger then him and he can post up on guys smaller then him. If you get him in a offensive system with cuts and screens so his man is getting switched and he can get a mismatch, this guy can easily get double digit points for a team. I really cant think of any comparisons for him, because whilst many people jump on the Kyle Korver wagon, Kyle never had/has the post game McDermott has. I really think a team like the Spurs could give this guy a chance at being a really solid contributor, if he is just a number 3 option offensively, the efficiency at which he can put the ball in the hole from outside and move without the ball in his hands to get himself open looks will allow him to succeed.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 I think he is going to a great combo forward, spark plug off the bench, perhaps even a starter for a team that plays with a defined system predicated on ball movement and the next pass. He can hit threes on guys who are bigger then him and he can post up on guys smaller then him. If you get him in a offensive system with cuts and screens so his man is getting switched and he can get a mismatch, this guy can easily get double digit points for a team. I really cant think of any comparisons for him, because whilst many people jump on the Kyle Korver wagon, Kyle never had/has the post game McDermott has. I really think a team like the Spurs could give this guy a chance at being a really solid contributor, if he is just a number 3 option offensively, the efficiency at which he can put the ball in the hole from outside and move without the ball in his hands to get himself open looks will allow him to succeed.

[NeggedFolyfe]

why do ppl keep locking the  sixerds pelicans pick in for 10 or 11th selection in the lottery

lottery aside the 8th and 11th slotted teams are pretty close in games won so any team can shift or make a late run.

Now lottery included we have watched the cavs the clippers and the bulls  move up from around the 8th selection to win the lottery we even seen the sixers move up  from around 9 or 11 to get the 2nd pick in the draft Evan turner. lets stop projecting the second pick when the season still has a pulse and the balls haven’t landed.

[NeggedFolyfe]

why do ppl keep locking the  sixerds pelicans pick in for 10 or 11th selection in the lottery

lottery aside the 8th and 11th slotted teams are pretty close in games won so any team can shift or make a late run.

Now lottery included we have watched the cavs the clippers and the bulls  move up from around the 8th selection to win the lottery we even seen the sixers move up  from around 9 or 11 to get the 2nd pick in the draft Evan turner. lets stop projecting the second pick when the season still has a pulse and the balls haven’t landed.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

 McDermott is a great college player, but only his jump shot and intangibles translate to the nba. How is he goin to stay on the floor when he’s getting burned and/or fouling quicker players? I’ll be pissed if the sixers take McDermott, and shocked if any other team in the top ten does.

[JoeWolf1]

 Systems can hide poor one on one defenders, if a player is a decent team defender. Hell, Kyle Korver, and Bellinelli had great success playing for Thibs and we all know where his emphasis as a coach lies. Mike Miller in Miami’s great team system did the same thing.

You’re right, Doug doesn’t look like a good one on one defender, and I personally don’t think he’s top 10 talent either, but for the right system, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. The NBA has plenty of poor defenders, and good coaches and systems can still have success with them playing meaningful minutes if they at least get how defense should be played. I think Doug does understand the game enough to minimize his individual defensive abilities as much as he can.

 

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

I understand that systems can hide poor defenders,  but many times that can come at a cost. For instance: let’s say McDermott is in the NBA on the Sixers and is playing in a game against the Pacers. No way he’s guarding PAul George, so Brown puts him on Stephanson. Obviously this woul be an almost impossible matchup for McDermott so Brown has Noel sag a little more off Hibbert while telling Doug to force lance into the paint so Noel can challenge the shot. While this strategy might limit Doug’s defensive deficiencies, it also opens up Noel to foul trouble, and also opens up the paint for offensive rebounds. Philly gets eaten alive on the glass and loses. 

 

The he bottom line is McDermott will probably be a bench player and get minutes against most teams second units. Most likely he’ll need help against them too. Sure he’ll come in and get a couple threes, hit his free throws, and play unselfishly, but is that worth a too ten or even 15 pick?? NO

[JoeWolf1]

Yeah, we don’t disagree with his draft position. I currently have him 18th in my mock, but I just feel Doug has the fundamental understanding of the game to fit in a good team D system. Philly probably isn’t that place, especially at 10.

i was just trying to voice that I think at times his lack of d at the next level maybe gets blown out of proportion. I think that there are guys around the league, right now, getting meaningful minutes that are worse defenders than Doug will be. Will he be able to defend Lance or PG to the point hes shutting them down? No, but in a good system he may not be such a huge liability, especially when on the other end he has his man running around 25 ft from the basket. He may indeed be better suited for a bench role, but you know he’ll try on D. I have no doubt hell be a better defender than JR Smith, who won 6th man last year.

[JoeWolf1]

Yeah, we don’t disagree with his draft position. I currently have him 18th in my mock, but I just feel Doug has the fundamental understanding of the game to fit in a good team D system. Philly probably isn’t that place, especially at 10.

i was just trying to voice that I think at times his lack of d at the next level maybe gets blown out of proportion. I think that there are guys around the league, right now, getting meaningful minutes that are worse defenders than Doug will be. Will he be able to defend Lance or PG to the point hes shutting them down? No, but in a good system he may not be such a huge liability, especially when on the other end he has his man running around 25 ft from the basket. He may indeed be better suited for a bench role, but you know he’ll try on D. I have no doubt hell be a better defender than JR Smith, who won 6th man last year.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

I understand that systems can hide poor defenders,  but many times that can come at a cost. For instance: let’s say McDermott is in the NBA on the Sixers and is playing in a game against the Pacers. No way he’s guarding PAul George, so Brown puts him on Stephanson. Obviously this woul be an almost impossible matchup for McDermott so Brown has Noel sag a little more off Hibbert while telling Doug to force lance into the paint so Noel can challenge the shot. While this strategy might limit Doug’s defensive deficiencies, it also opens up Noel to foul trouble, and also opens up the paint for offensive rebounds. Philly gets eaten alive on the glass and loses. 

 

The he bottom line is McDermott will probably be a bench player and get minutes against most teams second units. Most likely he’ll need help against them too. Sure he’ll come in and get a couple threes, hit his free throws, and play unselfishly, but is that worth a too ten or even 15 pick?? NO

[JoeWolf1]

 Systems can hide poor one on one defenders, if a player is a decent team defender. Hell, Kyle Korver, and Bellinelli had great success playing for Thibs and we all know where his emphasis as a coach lies. Mike Miller in Miami’s great team system did the same thing.

You’re right, Doug doesn’t look like a good one on one defender, and I personally don’t think he’s top 10 talent either, but for the right system, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. The NBA has plenty of poor defenders, and good coaches and systems can still have success with them playing meaningful minutes if they at least get how defense should be played. I think Doug does understand the game enough to minimize his individual defensive abilities as much as he can.

 

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

 McDermott is a great college player, but only his jump shot and intangibles translate to the nba. How is he goin to stay on the floor when he’s getting burned and/or fouling quicker players? I’ll be pissed if the sixers take McDermott, and shocked if any other team in the top ten does.

[R.JLewisParticipant]

 doug has a post game in college but those moves arnt gonna fly in the big leagues. hes not strong enough and any contact will prevent him from getting looks

[R.JLewisParticipant]

 doug has a post game in college but those moves arnt gonna fly in the big leagues. hes not strong enough and any contact will prevent him from getting looks

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

For Orlando, an ideal situation for them would be to get Andrew Wiggins as a highly athletic, slashing scorer/defender to pair with Victor Oladipo.  Then at 12 they could take a look at Doug McDermott as a hot shooting sixth man.  They could also go big with a Oladipo-Wiggins backcourt and Dougie at the 3, or they could even go small with Dougie and Wiggins at the forward spots with Oladipo at the 2.

Grizzlies at 20-22 or so would be a GREAT fit for Doug McDermott if he falls there.  We have enough go-to guys and enough defenders, but Doug could be our sixth man and our future replacement for Mike Miller.

I think a contender should trade up to get him.  If a contender already has a solid core, Doug is a guy you can easily plug in, in my opinion.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

For Orlando, an ideal situation for them would be to get Andrew Wiggins as a highly athletic, slashing scorer/defender to pair with Victor Oladipo.  Then at 12 they could take a look at Doug McDermott as a hot shooting sixth man.  They could also go big with a Oladipo-Wiggins backcourt and Dougie at the 3, or they could even go small with Dougie and Wiggins at the forward spots with Oladipo at the 2.

Grizzlies at 20-22 or so would be a GREAT fit for Doug McDermott if he falls there.  We have enough go-to guys and enough defenders, but Doug could be our sixth man and our future replacement for Mike Miller.

I think a contender should trade up to get him.  If a contender already has a solid core, Doug is a guy you can easily plug in, in my opinion.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

 Absolutely agree. He should probably go 18-20’s and would be great on a playoff team.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

 Absolutely agree. He should probably go 18-20’s and would be great on a playoff team.

[NeggedFolyfe]

agreed

[NeggedFolyfe]

agreed

[NeggedFolyfe]

I feel as tho if you want a kyle korver.marco,steve novak, mike Dunleavy,mike miller type of spot up  shooter you don’t draft them if its going to be in the lottery  .

there is always a shooter available in free agency or you can get one from Europe why waist a top 10 pick when you can pick up a shooter for cheap as for as athletic  and versatile shooters like b mac , ray allen, Bradley beal, klay yes you draft those kid of shooters high in the draft im sorry but we have seen adam morrsion, jj Reddick,  jimmer, all bust not because  they couldn’t play ball but because of  draft selection don’t draft spot up shooters with high draft picks bottom line if we didn’t learn anything we should have learned that  no matter the basketball IQ don’t draft them recent  history shows they always end up on OTHER teams anyhow.

[NeggedFolyfe]

I feel as tho if you want a kyle korver.marco,steve novak, mike Dunleavy,mike miller type of spot up  shooter you don’t draft them if its going to be in the lottery  .

there is always a shooter available in free agency or you can get one from Europe why waist a top 10 pick when you can pick up a shooter for cheap as for as athletic  and versatile shooters like b mac , ray allen, Bradley beal, klay yes you draft those kid of shooters high in the draft im sorry but we have seen adam morrsion, jj Reddick,  jimmer, all bust not because  they couldn’t play ball but because of  draft selection don’t draft spot up shooters with high draft picks bottom line if we didn’t learn anything we should have learned that  no matter the basketball IQ don’t draft them recent  history shows they always end up on OTHER teams anyhow.

[PhillytheKid]

he has a mid-range game which is a rarity in the NBA.  he has big boy hands, and he’s incredibly smart.

i wonder what you clowns would be saying about Dirk’s draft potential.  I’m not saying he’s Dirk…but he’ll have a role in the NBA, and he’ll be better than a 6th man.

 

I think he could defend Paul George.  What he is is: if Gordon is the white man 2 of the NBA, McDermott will be the white man 3.   

[PhillytheKid]

he has a mid-range game which is a rarity in the NBA.  he has big boy hands, and he’s incredibly smart.

i wonder what you clowns would be saying about Dirk’s draft potential.  I’m not saying he’s Dirk…but he’ll have a role in the NBA, and he’ll be better than a 6th man.

 

I think he could defend Paul George.  What he is is: if Gordon is the white man 2 of the NBA, McDermott will be the white man 3.   

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

Gordon Hayward is who I’m assuming you’re talking about, is much more athletic than McDermott. Its not even close. Also why even bring up that Dirk comment if you’re not comparing Doug to him. They’re obviously not going to be on the same level. And I hope we get to see McDermott guard PG so we can see the next dunk of the year!

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

Gordon Hayward is who I’m assuming you’re talking about, is much more athletic than McDermott. Its not even close. Also why even bring up that Dirk comment if you’re not comparing Doug to him. They’re obviously not going to be on the same level. And I hope we get to see McDermott guard PG so we can see the next dunk of the year!

[unbelievaParticipant]

 I really hope he lands in the right situation.  He is straight killing it right now.  So versatile offensively. Such a high basketball iq. Not sure what to expect from him at the next level but he is a pleasure to watch in the college game. 

[unbelievaParticipant]

 I really hope he lands in the right situation.  He is straight killing it right now.  So versatile offensively. Such a high basketball iq. Not sure what to expect from him at the next level but he is a pleasure to watch in the college game. 

[kmp07sParticipant]

He’s hard to predict. Being a huge bust because of his lack of athleticism and defensive liabilities would not be that surprising (ala Adam Morrison) but he’s also so skilled, such a great shooter and such a smart player…that I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a great NBA player.

Also, Redick has not been a bust. He’s had a nice career and looked great for the Clips when not injured. But he’s really worked on his game, became a much more competent defender, a good passer, great team player, etc. These are the things that separate someone like him from Morrison. I think McDermott is the kind of guy who will continue to work on his game and adjust to the league.

[kmp07sParticipant]

He’s hard to predict. Being a huge bust because of his lack of athleticism and defensive liabilities would not be that surprising (ala Adam Morrison) but he’s also so skilled, such a great shooter and such a smart player…that I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a great NBA player.

Also, Redick has not been a bust. He’s had a nice career and looked great for the Clips when not injured. But he’s really worked on his game, became a much more competent defender, a good passer, great team player, etc. These are the things that separate someone like him from Morrison. I think McDermott is the kind of guy who will continue to work on his game and adjust to the league.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Doug does lack a bit of speed to be an NBA SF but I fully agree he’d be a great 6th man on the right team, perhaps almot in the Matt Bonner/Kyle Korver role. Also with a really good creative PG I think he’d thrive as he’d be able to be foud and use his shooting ability. Also on a team with a couple of franchise level starters, he’d be very useful to have on court as they could spread the floor and use his shooting ability.

I’d say he’s a bit high just outside the top10 in a few mocks but I think he’d be great value in the 16 to 20 range.

He may not have as much upside as some of the freshmen or sophs but he could probably play a defined role from day one in the NBA and take the required 15 mins upwards from the off.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Doug does lack a bit of speed to be an NBA SF but I fully agree he’d be a great 6th man on the right team, perhaps almot in the Matt Bonner/Kyle Korver role. Also with a really good creative PG I think he’d thrive as he’d be able to be foud and use his shooting ability. Also on a team with a couple of franchise level starters, he’d be very useful to have on court as they could spread the floor and use his shooting ability.

I’d say he’s a bit high just outside the top10 in a few mocks but I think he’d be great value in the 16 to 20 range.

He may not have as much upside as some of the freshmen or sophs but he could probably play a defined role from day one in the NBA and take the required 15 mins upwards from the off.

[runBruceParticipant]

 Anyone remember Adam Morrison?

[runBruceParticipant]

 Anyone remember Adam Morrison?

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