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  • #64218
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    I CALLED GAME
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    I think people have forgotten about Ben Simmons but why all because he didn’t showcase that he can shoot the ball consistent or even shoot a jumber but I  don’t question his work ethic, I’m pretty sure he has been working to improve whatever it  is  that make him not want to shoot from deep, DON’T SLEEP  on yo boy though all he needs is consistent repetition and with all this him not working out for any team make it where you can’t compare the two you would just take Simmons off of his body of work in the Collegiate ranks averaging 19.2 ppg, 11.8 rpg, 4.8 apg so basically  if he can hit his jumper next season no matter what team he goes to this man is going to be a dangerous piece & I did even mention his "defense"   – GAME! 

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  • #1073483
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    CDPH
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    Simmons is tough to project because he has so many questions around him, but at the same time his upside is so high.  

    It’s going to be interesting to see how the 76ers end up using him.

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  • #1073598
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    CDPH
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    Simmons is tough to project because he has so many questions around him, but at the same time his upside is so high.  

    It’s going to be interesting to see how the 76ers end up using him.

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  • #1073489
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     Can’t wait to watch the Sixers come to town once they get Ben Simmons.

    They will have to draft some shooters though.

    TRADE SARIC!  Not really a shooter, and his skill set overlaps with Simmons’.  Plus, what if he comes over and is a DUD?  His trade value will only go DOWN!  

    As I have pointed out before many times, and as someone alluded to the other day, the Sixers can only pay so many guys.

    So, between Simmons, Oak, Noel, and Embiid they are very near the end of "CORE GUYS" they can sign to BIG MONEY.

    Can’t have a jack of all trades guy like Saric coming off the bench and taking a bunch of money — even if he turns into a star.

    They have their "BIG FOUR" right now.  I THINK they can add two more guys — THAT’S IT.  

    Get a BACKCOURT.  … I actually think this draft is pretty deep in the mid to late first round.  Get some picks for Saric.  I would REALLY want those mid/late first rounders from Boston.

    GET THE DEAL DONE!

    Simmons is basically a point forward, but can play either the 3 or the 4.  Or, the point guard spot.  Oak is a BIG who can score.  Noel can swat shots.  You can probably call either guy a 4 — or a 5.  Embiid has a versatile skill set for a big man (supposedly).  So, they have a 3 Big Man Rotation — plus the do-it-all Ben Simmons.

    Now, GO GET SOME GUARDS!

    Get AT LEAST one more core guy (guard or a shooter).

    Then, draft for need with their OWN late first round picks.  

    I would ALSO try to pick up some of those extra second rounders from Boston.

    16, 23, and 45 from Boston would get them Dario Saric.

    I would even settle for 16, 23, 35, and 45 to Boston for Saric, 24, and a future second round pick.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1073537
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      We have to get rid of the idea that Saric isn’t a shooter.  That hasn’t been true for a couple of seasons.  

      Saric shot 50% from the field, 40% from 3-point range and 93% from the foul line for Efes in EuroLeague play this year.  By the way, those numbers climbed to 60% from 3-point range during the playoffs.  

      The news came out today that he’s 99.9% likely to join the team next season, so he’d cost about $2.4M next season.  There’s just no way the Sixers are trading that guy before they see what they have.  

      Also there’s this notion that he and Simmons are redundant.  Saric isn’t a guy who has the ball all the time and innitiates the offense, he’s a guy that can push the ball and make plays for teammates.  They would need a rim-protector like Noel (No counting Embiid until he steps on the court), but there’s no reason a lineup of Simmons/Saric/Noel couldn’t work.  Obviously they could use more shooting from the guards, but that will come.  

      16, 23 and 35 for Saric makes no sense for a team like Philly who already has so many young players.  Not to mention I’d pass on it anyway if I were Philly.  

       

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    • #1073652
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      We have to get rid of the idea that Saric isn’t a shooter.  That hasn’t been true for a couple of seasons.  

      Saric shot 50% from the field, 40% from 3-point range and 93% from the foul line for Efes in EuroLeague play this year.  By the way, those numbers climbed to 60% from 3-point range during the playoffs.  

      The news came out today that he’s 99.9% likely to join the team next season, so he’d cost about $2.4M next season.  There’s just no way the Sixers are trading that guy before they see what they have.  

      Also there’s this notion that he and Simmons are redundant.  Saric isn’t a guy who has the ball all the time and innitiates the offense, he’s a guy that can push the ball and make plays for teammates.  They would need a rim-protector like Noel (No counting Embiid until he steps on the court), but there’s no reason a lineup of Simmons/Saric/Noel couldn’t work.  Obviously they could use more shooting from the guards, but that will come.  

      16, 23 and 35 for Saric makes no sense for a team like Philly who already has so many young players.  Not to mention I’d pass on it anyway if I were Philly.  

       

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  • #1073604
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     Can’t wait to watch the Sixers come to town once they get Ben Simmons.

    They will have to draft some shooters though.

    TRADE SARIC!  Not really a shooter, and his skill set overlaps with Simmons’.  Plus, what if he comes over and is a DUD?  His trade value will only go DOWN!  

    As I have pointed out before many times, and as someone alluded to the other day, the Sixers can only pay so many guys.

    So, between Simmons, Oak, Noel, and Embiid they are very near the end of "CORE GUYS" they can sign to BIG MONEY.

    Can’t have a jack of all trades guy like Saric coming off the bench and taking a bunch of money — even if he turns into a star.

    They have their "BIG FOUR" right now.  I THINK they can add two more guys — THAT’S IT.  

    Get a BACKCOURT.  … I actually think this draft is pretty deep in the mid to late first round.  Get some picks for Saric.  I would REALLY want those mid/late first rounders from Boston.

    GET THE DEAL DONE!

    Simmons is basically a point forward, but can play either the 3 or the 4.  Or, the point guard spot.  Oak is a BIG who can score.  Noel can swat shots.  You can probably call either guy a 4 — or a 5.  Embiid has a versatile skill set for a big man (supposedly).  So, they have a 3 Big Man Rotation — plus the do-it-all Ben Simmons.

    Now, GO GET SOME GUARDS!

    Get AT LEAST one more core guy (guard or a shooter).

    Then, draft for need with their OWN late first round picks.  

    I would ALSO try to pick up some of those extra second rounders from Boston.

    16, 23, and 45 from Boston would get them Dario Saric.

    I would even settle for 16, 23, 35, and 45 to Boston for Saric, 24, and a future second round pick.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1073487
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    Kingslayer
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    It’s tough to get through some of your run-on posts OP. The only periods in this entire Simmons post are the decimal points in his statline…. 

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  • #1073602
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    Kingslayer
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    It’s tough to get through some of your run-on posts OP. The only periods in this entire Simmons post are the decimal points in his statline…. 

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  • #1073493
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    kobyz
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    Would Lakers give both Ingram and Russell to get him?

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    • #1073535
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      kobyz
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       I’m seriously asking, is ben that big time prospect and worth that much?

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      • #1073664
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        Choppy
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         Potential is the key word here. His ceiling is probably a poor mans LeBron/Grant Hill and his floor is Odom. If you think he’ll reach his potential, then he might be worth Russell/Ingram. If you didn’t then it might be an overpay. Personally, I think he’ll be a multiple all star borderline franchise guy. Do you think that is worth Russell/Ingram? I guess it also depends on what you believe the potential of those two are too. 

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      • #1073549
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        Choppy
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         Potential is the key word here. His ceiling is probably a poor mans LeBron/Grant Hill and his floor is Odom. If you think he’ll reach his potential, then he might be worth Russell/Ingram. If you didn’t then it might be an overpay. Personally, I think he’ll be a multiple all star borderline franchise guy. Do you think that is worth Russell/Ingram? I guess it also depends on what you believe the potential of those two are too. 

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        • #1073743
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          kobyz
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           And what about marketing wise? Is it a factor?

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        • #1073629
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          kobyz
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           And what about marketing wise? Is it a factor?

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        • #1073760
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          binet
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           There has been other players with the same profile like french big man Boris Diaw, and honestly when seeing Boris play you could easily imagine a guy end up being an even worse player with that kind of talent. Diaw seems slow today but had good to great athleticism at that age, and shot the ball better than Simmons.

          Beasley has shown also that big numbers on the ncaa level do  not translate every time in the nba, especially for an undefined forward without range.

          A player that was not able to qualify his team for the march madness could easily be a major bust, regardless of skillset and apparent talent. 

           

            

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        • #1073873
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          binet
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           There has been other players with the same profile like french big man Boris Diaw, and honestly when seeing Boris play you could easily imagine a guy end up being an even worse player with that kind of talent. Diaw seems slow today but had good to great athleticism at that age, and shot the ball better than Simmons.

          Beasley has shown also that big numbers on the ncaa level do  not translate every time in the nba, especially for an undefined forward without range.

          A player that was not able to qualify his team for the march madness could easily be a major bust, regardless of skillset and apparent talent. 

           

            

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    • #1073650
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      kobyz
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       I’m seriously asking, is ben that big time prospect and worth that much?

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  • #1073608
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    kobyz
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    Would Lakers give both Ingram and Russell to get him?

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  • #1073503
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     Who exactly is sleeping on Ben Simmons? He is probably the most hyped prospect in years. Some people might think he is slightly overhyped but it’s not like he is one of those under the radar guys that’s going to sneak up on people.

     

     

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  • #1073618
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     Who exactly is sleeping on Ben Simmons? He is probably the most hyped prospect in years. Some people might think he is slightly overhyped but it’s not like he is one of those under the radar guys that’s going to sneak up on people.

     

     

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  • #1073519
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    Ebown5
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    The spelling is pretty good, but the punctuation is completely absent. Who writes like this?

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  • #1073634
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    Ebown5
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    The spelling is pretty good, but the punctuation is completely absent. Who writes like this?

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  • #1073668
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    Biggysmalls
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     Dazzling beat me to it. 

    LSU got more coverage this year than maybe any team in the country, and it certainly wasn’t becasue they were very good. It was Ben Simmons this, Ben Simmons that. 

    Nobody is sleeping on Simmons. Some don’t think he’s worth all the hype he’s gotten – myself included – but that isn’t to say he can’t be a good or very good NBA player. 

    People that don’t believe he’s the next LeBron aren’t "haters" and aren’t sleeping on him. It’s not illegal to not be all in on a 19-year-old no matter how fool proof it seems. 

     

     

     

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  • #1073553
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    Biggysmalls
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     Dazzling beat me to it. 

    LSU got more coverage this year than maybe any team in the country, and it certainly wasn’t becasue they were very good. It was Ben Simmons this, Ben Simmons that. 

    Nobody is sleeping on Simmons. Some don’t think he’s worth all the hype he’s gotten – myself included – but that isn’t to say he can’t be a good or very good NBA player. 

    People that don’t believe he’s the next LeBron aren’t "haters" and aren’t sleeping on him. It’s not illegal to not be all in on a 19-year-old no matter how fool proof it seems. 

     

     

     

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  • #1073720
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    Untouchable J
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    I feel sorry for the kid b/c they are making him Lebron. And not in the normal on-court way.

    Personality wise: Nice guy, non-shooter, rather help others than "dominate", attitude, passive, "cant get it done, couldnt get his team to the NCAA tournament" lmao smh The masses are idiots…. I have a feeling that stigma will be with him his entire career

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  • #1073833
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    Untouchable J
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    I feel sorry for the kid b/c they are making him Lebron. And not in the normal on-court way.

    Personality wise: Nice guy, non-shooter, rather help others than "dominate", attitude, passive, "cant get it done, couldnt get his team to the NCAA tournament" lmao smh The masses are idiots…. I have a feeling that stigma will be with him his entire career

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  • #1073728
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    Tyrober
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     Its hard to sleep on a guy who most consider to be the 1st overall pick. Everyone knows he has a ton of potential and has the best chance to be a star in this draft. Who exactly do you think has forgotten about him OP?

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  • #1073841
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    Tyrober
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     Its hard to sleep on a guy who most consider to be the 1st overall pick. Everyone knows he has a ton of potential and has the best chance to be a star in this draft. Who exactly do you think has forgotten about him OP?

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