[RUDEBOY_Participant]

When The Heat signed center Joel Anthony to a 5 year 18 million dollar contract..Heat president Pat Riley had this to say about the signing..”This contract with Joel Anthony is a testament of the man who is 2nd to none ,he has worked hard and deserve this..We felt that what he has done to over the past few years to improve his body and developing his game warrants this reward..

Now the Miami Herald is reporting that secretly Riley is now admitting that signing Anthony to that huge deal was a mistake..Last week 1 Heat official called the size of Anthony’s contract a joke…A NBA scout called it ridiculous..

Anthony is not a starter in this league..And when he’s given starter minutes his limitations are vastly overexposed.. He’s been that way since he’s been there and he’ll continue to be that way..Becuz he’s so undersized and so limited..Riley wasn’t looking for scoring from him ..He thought Anthony could provide energy, defense and rebounding ..Anthony can sometime give you those things but only in limited minutes…

[sheltwon3Participant]

There are tons of better players who did not get close to 3 plus million a year. I think 2 million a year for around 3 years would have been a good deal.  I think Miami was nervous that he would go somewhere else and wind up like Bruce Bowen.  Bowen was a Heat first and Heat let him go because of his limitations and Bown work himself into being a quality starter and someone who could hit open 3’s in the corner. Maybe they thought this guy could be the next Ben Wallace.  I think it was a dumb deal.  I would not do it.

[sheltwon3Participant]

There are tons of better players who did not get close to 3 plus million a year. I think 2 million a year for around 3 years would have been a good deal.  I think Miami was nervous that he would go somewhere else and wind up like Bruce Bowen.  Bowen was a Heat first and Heat let him go because of his limitations and Bown work himself into being a quality starter and someone who could hit open 3’s in the corner. Maybe they thought this guy could be the next Ben Wallace.  I think it was a dumb deal.  I would not do it.

[sheltwon3Participant]

There are tons of better players who did not get close to 3 plus million a year. I think 2 million a year for around 3 years would have been a good deal.  I think Miami was nervous that he would go somewhere else and wind up like Bruce Bowen.  Bowen was a Heat first and Heat let him go because of his limitations and Bown work himself into being a quality starter and someone who could hit open 3’s in the corner. Maybe they thought this guy could be the next Ben Wallace.  I think it was a dumb deal.  I would not do it.

[TRC1991Participant]

joel anthony could easily be the worst player in the NBA

[TRC1991Participant]

joel anthony could easily be the worst player in the NBA

[TRC1991Participant]

joel anthony could easily be the worst player in the NBA

[bdoody42Participant]

If they pay more than his rent and car payment…. they overpaid him!

[bdoody42Participant]

If they pay more than his rent and car payment…. they overpaid him!

[bdoody42Participant]

If they pay more than his rent and car payment…. they overpaid him!

[Demarcus OnealParticipant]

@Taylor Condrin hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard

[Demarcus OnealParticipant]

@Taylor Condrin hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard

[Demarcus OnealParticipant]

@Taylor Condrin hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard

[sheltwon3Participant]

Nba has the best of talents and the ones that do not work on the extreme don’t get to play.  Hard work is for a good role players and in this economy good role players can be had for 1 million to 3 million.  some teams have bargains for role players that are good that are less than a million.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Nba has the best of talents and the ones that do not work on the extreme don’t get to play.  Hard work is for a good role players and in this economy good role players can be had for 1 million to 3 million.  some teams have bargains for role players that are good that are less than a million.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Nba has the best of talents and the ones that do not work on the extreme don’t get to play.  Hard work is for a good role players and in this economy good role players can be had for 1 million to 3 million.  some teams have bargains for role players that are good that are less than a million.

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

The Heat in inexplicable desperation threw $18M at a 28 year old center with 3 years experience who would be an undersized center on most power conference college teams. Anthony is a solid post defender, but how did they expect the 6-9 Anthony to hang with the 6-11 Howard or 7-0 Gasol, for example? They drastically underestimated how easy it is to find a hard working post player. 

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

The Heat in inexplicable desperation threw $18M at a 28 year old center with 3 years experience who would be an undersized center on most power conference college teams. Anthony is a solid post defender, but how did they expect the 6-9 Anthony to hang with the 6-11 Howard or 7-0 Gasol, for example? They drastically underestimated how easy it is to find a hard working post player. 

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

The Heat in inexplicable desperation threw $18M at a 28 year old center with 3 years experience who would be an undersized center on most power conference college teams. Anthony is a solid post defender, but how did they expect the 6-9 Anthony to hang with the 6-11 Howard or 7-0 Gasol, for example? They drastically underestimated how easy it is to find a hard working post player. 

[PlatypusParticipant]

Its not all about his height, Ben Wallace vs Shaq when the Pistons won, Ben had him locked down, another example Dennis Rodman, nuff said

 

Its not height, its talent, if your undersized you can play with the big boys but you have to have the talent, Anthony does not

[PlatypusParticipant]

Its not all about his height, Ben Wallace vs Shaq when the Pistons won, Ben had him locked down, another example Dennis Rodman, nuff said

 

Its not height, its talent, if your undersized you can play with the big boys but you have to have the talent, Anthony does not

[PlatypusParticipant]

Its not all about his height, Ben Wallace vs Shaq when the Pistons won, Ben had him locked down, another example Dennis Rodman, nuff said

 

Its not height, its talent, if your undersized you can play with the big boys but you have to have the talent, Anthony does not

[JoeWolf1]

 I think they did, there is no doubt a defensive center that really doesn’t produce much on the points and rebounds, but alters shots and prevents people from driving the lane has value to an NBA team.  BUT as a backup, he isn’t the first play of that sort that has been over payed.  Your teams center doesn’t have to be 20/10 or ever 15/8 to win an NBA title, but your gonna need more than 5/5 IMO, especially when your giving him a pretty big contract. 

Desagan Diop, Jim McIlvane, are two guys who come time mind when talking about similar players getting to much money for what they do.  I get there is a weakness of starting centers in the NBA, but paying a backup like a starter isn’t going to make is ability jump from that of a backup to that of a starter! 

Signing him to a smaller deal would have made much more sense, he hasn’t done anything to warrant that kind of money and even this year he really hasn’t played at a higher level than he did in any of his previous seasons. He’s a 6’9” Diop, McIlvane, or Sean Bradley as far as his role with the team and that isn’t worth 5 years and 18 million to me.

[JoeWolf1]

 I think they did, there is no doubt a defensive center that really doesn’t produce much on the points and rebounds, but alters shots and prevents people from driving the lane has value to an NBA team.  BUT as a backup, he isn’t the first play of that sort that has been over payed.  Your teams center doesn’t have to be 20/10 or ever 15/8 to win an NBA title, but your gonna need more than 5/5 IMO, especially when your giving him a pretty big contract. 

Desagan Diop, Jim McIlvane, are two guys who come time mind when talking about similar players getting to much money for what they do.  I get there is a weakness of starting centers in the NBA, but paying a backup like a starter isn’t going to make is ability jump from that of a backup to that of a starter! 

Signing him to a smaller deal would have made much more sense, he hasn’t done anything to warrant that kind of money and even this year he really hasn’t played at a higher level than he did in any of his previous seasons. He’s a 6’9” Diop, McIlvane, or Sean Bradley as far as his role with the team and that isn’t worth 5 years and 18 million to me.

[JoeWolf1]

 I think they did, there is no doubt a defensive center that really doesn’t produce much on the points and rebounds, but alters shots and prevents people from driving the lane has value to an NBA team.  BUT as a backup, he isn’t the first play of that sort that has been over payed.  Your teams center doesn’t have to be 20/10 or ever 15/8 to win an NBA title, but your gonna need more than 5/5 IMO, especially when your giving him a pretty big contract. 

Desagan Diop, Jim McIlvane, are two guys who come time mind when talking about similar players getting to much money for what they do.  I get there is a weakness of starting centers in the NBA, but paying a backup like a starter isn’t going to make is ability jump from that of a backup to that of a starter! 

Signing him to a smaller deal would have made much more sense, he hasn’t done anything to warrant that kind of money and even this year he really hasn’t played at a higher level than he did in any of his previous seasons. He’s a 6’9” Diop, McIlvane, or Sean Bradley as far as his role with the team and that isn’t worth 5 years and 18 million to me.

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

I just think they rushed to get a blue-collar big man and Anthony, even though he’d played in south beach for a while, wasn’t the right fit. And the two undersized, lockdown defender big men you point out are Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman, arguably the two best ever of their kind. Anthony is not near that company and it shows how rare truly successful undersized centers of that kind are. 

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

I just think they rushed to get a blue-collar big man and Anthony, even though he’d played in south beach for a while, wasn’t the right fit. And the two undersized, lockdown defender big men you point out are Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman, arguably the two best ever of their kind. Anthony is not near that company and it shows how rare truly successful undersized centers of that kind are. 

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

I just think they rushed to get a blue-collar big man and Anthony, even though he’d played in south beach for a while, wasn’t the right fit. And the two undersized, lockdown defender big men you point out are Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman, arguably the two best ever of their kind. Anthony is not near that company and it shows how rare truly successful undersized centers of that kind are. 

[NYK2010Participant]

Ppl say Joel Anthony is a PF and Bosh more of a SF.

Ha should’ve signed Darko at least he has the size.

Also doesn’t help that Juwan Howard and Big Z are very old too.

No legit Center with a weak bench and Arroyo/Chalmers at PG hurts.

[NYK2010Participant]

Ppl say Joel Anthony is a PF and Bosh more of a SF.

Ha should’ve signed Darko at least he has the size.

Also doesn’t help that Juwan Howard and Big Z are very old too.

No legit Center with a weak bench and Arroyo/Chalmers at PG hurts.

[NYK2010Participant]

Ppl say Joel Anthony is a PF and Bosh more of a SF.

Ha should’ve signed Darko at least he has the size.

Also doesn’t help that Juwan Howard and Big Z are very old too.

No legit Center with a weak bench and Arroyo/Chalmers at PG hurts.

[JoeWolf1]

^

I think they should have signed Kwame Brown for the veteran minimum, and kept Anthony, just for a smaller salary. 

It’s easier said than done, but if they were to find a way to get Kirk Hinrich I think he’d work out well there with his defense at the point guard position, ability to play next to star players and ability to hit the outside shot when Lebron and D-Wade kick it out of double teams.

[JoeWolf1]

^

I think they should have signed Kwame Brown for the veteran minimum, and kept Anthony, just for a smaller salary. 

It’s easier said than done, but if they were to find a way to get Kirk Hinrich I think he’d work out well there with his defense at the point guard position, ability to play next to star players and ability to hit the outside shot when Lebron and D-Wade kick it out of double teams.

[JoeWolf1]

^

I think they should have signed Kwame Brown for the veteran minimum, and kept Anthony, just for a smaller salary. 

It’s easier said than done, but if they were to find a way to get Kirk Hinrich I think he’d work out well there with his defense at the point guard position, ability to play next to star players and ability to hit the outside shot when Lebron and D-Wade kick it out of double teams.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Maybe they sign him to something larger because they plan on moving him and a pick for a legit player that is probably getting paid a decent amount and havet to make the salary work.  I have a feeling sometime this year he will be moved.  This does not make too much sense though because Miami could have found a way to get Beasley if they gave this guy all that money.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Maybe they sign him to something larger because they plan on moving him and a pick for a legit player that is probably getting paid a decent amount and havet to make the salary work.  I have a feeling sometime this year he will be moved.  This does not make too much sense though because Miami could have found a way to get Beasley if they gave this guy all that money.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Maybe they sign him to something larger because they plan on moving him and a pick for a legit player that is probably getting paid a decent amount and havet to make the salary work.  I have a feeling sometime this year he will be moved.  This does not make too much sense though because Miami could have found a way to get Beasley if they gave this guy all that money.

[llperez]

this is funny to me. I got into it with a heat fan back in august who was saying the heat were gonna run things this year. He actually said and im not making this up, joel anthony will remind everyone of a prime ben wallace this year, among other things.

[llperez]

this is funny to me. I got into it with a heat fan back in august who was saying the heat were gonna run things this year. He actually said and im not making this up, joel anthony will remind everyone of a prime ben wallace this year, among other things.

[llperez]

this is funny to me. I got into it with a heat fan back in august who was saying the heat were gonna run things this year. He actually said and im not making this up, joel anthony will remind everyone of a prime ben wallace this year, among other things.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Like I said before

If I’m the Heat, I want Kris Humpries and Janerro Pargo in trades plus Eric Dampier from free agency.

 

This team isin’t far off, they never really been out of any games other then the 1st one.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Like I said before

If I’m the Heat, I want Kris Humpries and Janerro Pargo in trades plus Eric Dampier from free agency.

 

This team isin’t far off, they never really been out of any games other then the 1st one.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Like I said before

If I’m the Heat, I want Kris Humpries and Janerro Pargo in trades plus Eric Dampier from free agency.

 

This team isin’t far off, they never really been out of any games other then the 1st one.

[torontoraptors10Participant]

 What if the Heat sign Courtney Sims from the D-League?

[torontoraptors10Participant]

 What if the Heat sign Courtney Sims from the D-League?

[torontoraptors10Participant]

 What if the Heat sign Courtney Sims from the D-League?

[Ralph_WiggumParticipant]

This yr is the Lakers, and next yr will depend on the Heats free agency

[Ralph_WiggumParticipant]

This yr is the Lakers, and next yr will depend on the Heats free agency

[Ralph_WiggumParticipant]

This yr is the Lakers, and next yr will depend on the Heats free agency

[Ralph_WiggumParticipant]

This yr is the Lakers, and next yr will depend on the Heats free agency

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Since being replaced in the starting lineup, does Anthony even get any PT?

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Since being replaced in the starting lineup, does Anthony even get any PT?

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Since being replaced in the starting lineup, does Anthony even get any PT?

 

[andxxxParticipant]

 Woah what about the Celtics and dont underestimate the hornets

[andxxxParticipant]

 Woah what about the Celtics and dont underestimate the hornets

[andxxxParticipant]

 Woah what about the Celtics and dont underestimate the hornets

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