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  • #62491
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    OhCanada-
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    Didn’t wanna do it but I had too. Why is Demar Derozan disrespected so much by the league and sources around the league. The guy has proven time and time again he is not just a good player but strictly elite. One of the best players in the league. Yet he never gets the respect he deserves.

     This rant was sparked by yet another ESPN Derozan for sale article asking if the Lakers and Raptors would trade Derozan and Randle. Ridiculous. But this is a reacurring event. The last two years during ESPN’s top 100 players he ranked 49’th and 51’st. He ranked behind players like Rose, Monroe, Middleton, Jabari Parker, and Wiggins just to name a few.

      Now I’m not saying he is the best SG in the league, or that he has to be an all-star which he probally won’t crack the lineup this year due to the competitiveness out East.wq

     All I’m saying is give credit where it’s due. Derozan is a legit 23-ppg, 4-rpg, 4-apg guy on a 50 win pace team. If Lowry wasn’t here he would probally score 27-ppg. If you think of any players who averaged 20-ppg-4-and4- you think of pretty darn good players. Like Brandon Roy. He never received any hate.

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  • #1037370
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    AdamJCalleja
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     It sucks people automatically put him in the Rudy Gay category simply for the fact that he’s as talented and physically gifted as anyone at his position yet you’re just left wanting more. He’s filled every hole in his game and has worked extremely hard each offseason, he deserves so much more respect.

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     It sucks people automatically put him in the Rudy Gay category simply for the fact that he’s as talented and physically gifted as anyone at his position yet you’re just left wanting more. He’s filled every hole in his game and has worked extremely hard each offseason, he deserves so much more respect.

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  • #1037376
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    He is such a great mid range shooter and really has embraced contact ever more than ever…if he could ever knock down the 3 ball with any consistence (he has been a bit better) he would be truely elite…I hope the Raps re sign him as it seems he loves T.O has a great work ethic exactly the type of player you want on your team..

    Now Raps get in on Mr.Anderson please to start at the 4 he would space the floor even more for DD

     

     

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  • #1037240
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    He is such a great mid range shooter and really has embraced contact ever more than ever…if he could ever knock down the 3 ball with any consistence (he has been a bit better) he would be truely elite…I hope the Raps re sign him as it seems he loves T.O has a great work ethic exactly the type of player you want on your team..

    Now Raps get in on Mr.Anderson please to start at the 4 he would space the floor even more for DD

     

     

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  • #1037380
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    SmooveKRYPT
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    Of all the players who are top 5 at their respective position, he gets the least respect. I don’t get the stigma against him. Just because he doesn’t shoot the 3 much

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  • #1037244
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    SmooveKRYPT
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    Of all the players who are top 5 at their respective position, he gets the least respect. I don’t get the stigma against him. Just because he doesn’t shoot the 3 much

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  • #1037388
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     Derozan is having a great season and has made tremendous strides over the past few seasons. Besides harden, Butler and Thompson he is probably the best 2 guard in the game right now. He has gotten so much better in terms of reading the defense and being able to manufacture shots out of the pick and roll, for both himself and teammates. They have actually been able to use him as the primary ball-handler for stretches this year, which lightens the load on Lowry and allows him to function as an off the ball threat at times. He is just probably never going to be a high volume three-point shooter, but neither was d-wade and he still had a pretty decent career I’d say.

    I really have no idea why he doesn’t seem to get the respect he deserves around the league. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t play in a big market and is kind of overshadowed by his own backcourt partner. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t have much of a playoff resume or kind of carries this stigma of being a inefficient isolation scorer (which actually isn’t the case at all). Whatever the case, I agree that he is vastly underrated throughout the league.

     

     

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  • #1037252
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     Derozan is having a great season and has made tremendous strides over the past few seasons. Besides harden, Butler and Thompson he is probably the best 2 guard in the game right now. He has gotten so much better in terms of reading the defense and being able to manufacture shots out of the pick and roll, for both himself and teammates. They have actually been able to use him as the primary ball-handler for stretches this year, which lightens the load on Lowry and allows him to function as an off the ball threat at times. He is just probably never going to be a high volume three-point shooter, but neither was d-wade and he still had a pretty decent career I’d say.

    I really have no idea why he doesn’t seem to get the respect he deserves around the league. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t play in a big market and is kind of overshadowed by his own backcourt partner. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t have much of a playoff resume or kind of carries this stigma of being a inefficient isolation scorer (which actually isn’t the case at all). Whatever the case, I agree that he is vastly underrated throughout the league.

     

     

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  • #1037394
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     He can’t shoot, that is what many people see.  If someone like Patterson is up front and hitting lots of 3s it doesn’t matter as much, but DeMar’s 28% from long range does put him behind many other shooting guards.

    This is offset by the many foul shots he takes and the very good percentage there.

    Ricky Davis was able to get 20-4-4, so numbers don’t always make people popular.  Joe Johnson too.

    DeRozan was born in Los Angeles and went to college there, it does make sense that some will think he will want to sign with the Lakers.  The Raptors know this, and signed Ross to an extension so they had a backup plan.

    With the DeMarre Carroll signing not going too well right now, with no superstar free agents looking to Toronto, with Anthony Bennett taking a roster spot, maybe the future for DeMar would be better in LA and he knows it.

    The Lakers have Russell, Randle, a very high pick in the 2016 draft, a new coach, salary room for DeRozan plus another max player, maybe the Raptors should look at a trade.  He might also like playing on a team with Lou Williams’ shooting, to spread the floor.

    That will also show if the media are fake, and if they all fall in line and say DeRozan is the greatest in the NBA at his position just because he is playing for the Lakers then the bias will be shown,

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1037258
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     He can’t shoot, that is what many people see.  If someone like Patterson is up front and hitting lots of 3s it doesn’t matter as much, but DeMar’s 28% from long range does put him behind many other shooting guards.

    This is offset by the many foul shots he takes and the very good percentage there.

    Ricky Davis was able to get 20-4-4, so numbers don’t always make people popular.  Joe Johnson too.

    DeRozan was born in Los Angeles and went to college there, it does make sense that some will think he will want to sign with the Lakers.  The Raptors know this, and signed Ross to an extension so they had a backup plan.

    With the DeMarre Carroll signing not going too well right now, with no superstar free agents looking to Toronto, with Anthony Bennett taking a roster spot, maybe the future for DeMar would be better in LA and he knows it.

    The Lakers have Russell, Randle, a very high pick in the 2016 draft, a new coach, salary room for DeRozan plus another max player, maybe the Raptors should look at a trade.  He might also like playing on a team with Lou Williams’ shooting, to spread the floor.

    That will also show if the media are fake, and if they all fall in line and say DeRozan is the greatest in the NBA at his position just because he is playing for the Lakers then the bias will be shown,

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1037438
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       I don’t see why derozen wouldn’t go to the Lakers, he is from there. They could use a player like him. He is still only 26 and could develop with russell and randle. If they have cap space to get a good younger center. That looks like a borderline playoff team if russell and randle improve. I don’t think that raptors team is winning a title, so he wouldn’t risk that much by leaving. 

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    • #1037302
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       I don’t see why derozen wouldn’t go to the Lakers, he is from there. They could use a player like him. He is still only 26 and could develop with russell and randle. If they have cap space to get a good younger center. That looks like a borderline playoff team if russell and randle improve. I don’t think that raptors team is winning a title, so he wouldn’t risk that much by leaving. 

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  • #1037436
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    I’d hardly call that a small market … 

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  • #1037300
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    bimirud
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    I’d hardly call that a small market … 

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  • #1037318
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    Biggaveliii
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     Your comparing No IQ Davis to Demar smh. If Demar was on LA, NY, Miami, He would be talked about crazy. The dudes balling and hes a stud, and being from Toronto i believe in his loyalty and i want him signed A$AP. Derozan would average 25 per game or more if Lowry werent on the team, Also meaning that Lowry and Derozan are the best backcourt in the Eastern Conference, and Derozan definetly deserves to be an allstar over quite a few players in my opinion. *cough* *cough* Kyrie Irving. Always performs against great teams. 

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  • #1037454
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    Biggaveliii
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     Your comparing No IQ Davis to Demar smh. If Demar was on LA, NY, Miami, He would be talked about crazy. The dudes balling and hes a stud, and being from Toronto i believe in his loyalty and i want him signed A$AP. Derozan would average 25 per game or more if Lowry werent on the team, Also meaning that Lowry and Derozan are the best backcourt in the Eastern Conference, and Derozan definetly deserves to be an allstar over quite a few players in my opinion. *cough* *cough* Kyrie Irving. Always performs against great teams. 

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