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  • #64148
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    dudo670
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     In Chad Ford’s latest mock draft, regarding Bembry, he said, "Bembry continues to draw praise from every team that sees him. In a draft filled with ‘potential,’ there are few players who can actually play the game as well as he can."

    The way Chad Ford worded that, it seemed like he is trying to call Bembry a high floor low ceiling guy. I’ve watched him a lot at Saint Joe’s and this guy is the total package except he can’t shoot the ball. If he could shoot, he probably would’ve been a big time recruit. He needs to work on his ball-handling when he gets to the pros, but athletically there aren’t many guys in his draft that are better athletes than him, and very few players with a better feel for the game than him. I think he’s the second best player in transition in this draft behind Simmons. People give him flack for his motor, but the dude led the country in minutes per game as a sophomore and was up there as a junior, as a freshman when he was only playing 30 his motor was certainly there. He’s got an NBA ready body and can contribute from day 1.

     I think he could end up being the steal of the draft as he is now, and if that jumper comes along (its not broken but he has huge hands that hurts him), he’s an all-star. What’s the opinion on here of Bembry?

     

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  • #1071978
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     I love Bembry and think if he can improve his shot he could be a very solid starter. I’m really interested to see where he goes because he will go to a good team and could end up playing a nice role off the bench. I love guys that have a great feel for the game and his athleticism makes it even more likely he’ll be a solid NBA player.

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  • #1071862
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     I love Bembry and think if he can improve his shot he could be a very solid starter. I’m really interested to see where he goes because he will go to a good team and could end up playing a nice role off the bench. I love guys that have a great feel for the game and his athleticism makes it even more likely he’ll be a solid NBA player.

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  • #1071976
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    TRC1991
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    Don’t agree. He’s a guy that will never more than a 4th or 5th option. Doesn’t possess the length and/or ability to create off the bounce. Think he will be a useful role player but can’t imagine him being an all star as a 6’5" small forward who can’t shoot or dribble 

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  • #1071860
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    Don’t agree. He’s a guy that will never more than a 4th or 5th option. Doesn’t possess the length and/or ability to create off the bounce. Think he will be a useful role player but can’t imagine him being an all star as a 6’5" small forward who can’t shoot or dribble 

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    • #1071980
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       Personally I don’t think he’ll be an all star but if you can get a 4th or 5th option in the 20’s that would be one of the better steals of the draft. I see him more as a really good 6th man for a good team which is still really good value where he’s projected. 

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    • #1071864
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       Personally I don’t think he’ll be an all star but if you can get a 4th or 5th option in the 20’s that would be one of the better steals of the draft. I see him more as a really good 6th man for a good team which is still really good value where he’s projected. 

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    • #1071888
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       I think for Bembry to make it in the league, he’s going to have to be a 2 guard. I know every site lists him as a SF but I think he’s got the ability to. He has good length, maybe not crazy length, but I wouldn’t classify a guy 6’6" with 6’9" arms as not possessing length. Also I think he’s better at creating off the bounce than scouts give him credit for.

      The overall point I never made but should clarify is I think there is a misunderstanding of what potential is and that leads teams to take a guy like Skal in the lottery while guys like Draymond Green falls to 35. I have noticed over the years that a lot of draft steals are guys that scouts think will definitely be solid role players but don’t have star potential. And I think DeAndre is one of these guys. We all have our opinions on a guy, for instance you and I differ on Bembry, but across the board I think there’s a lot of players who people are afraid to say "this guy is the next big thing" if he’s not drafted in the top 10.

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    • #1072004
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       I think for Bembry to make it in the league, he’s going to have to be a 2 guard. I know every site lists him as a SF but I think he’s got the ability to. He has good length, maybe not crazy length, but I wouldn’t classify a guy 6’6" with 6’9" arms as not possessing length. Also I think he’s better at creating off the bounce than scouts give him credit for.

      The overall point I never made but should clarify is I think there is a misunderstanding of what potential is and that leads teams to take a guy like Skal in the lottery while guys like Draymond Green falls to 35. I have noticed over the years that a lot of draft steals are guys that scouts think will definitely be solid role players but don’t have star potential. And I think DeAndre is one of these guys. We all have our opinions on a guy, for instance you and I differ on Bembry, but across the board I think there’s a lot of players who people are afraid to say "this guy is the next big thing" if he’s not drafted in the top 10.

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  • #1071876
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    You can point to some guys like Jimmy Butler who came in to the league at 22 and learned to shoot, but even he was a good free throw shooter in college. Bembry shot 63% from the line and 31% from 3. His passing is a nice bonus, I could see him being a poor man’s Andre Iguodala in the pros.

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  • #1071992
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    You can point to some guys like Jimmy Butler who came in to the league at 22 and learned to shoot, but even he was a good free throw shooter in college. Bembry shot 63% from the line and 31% from 3. His passing is a nice bonus, I could see him being a poor man’s Andre Iguodala in the pros.

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  • #1071878
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    I see hawks, spurs, warriors for a guy like that, ball movement teams.

    Solid role player, on ball as a facilitator, off ball as a cutter, runner, hustler.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1071994
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    I see hawks, spurs, warriors for a guy like that, ball movement teams.

    Solid role player, on ball as a facilitator, off ball as a cutter, runner, hustler.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1071916
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    1. He is able to defend SG and SF.

    ( not every NBA player is able to defend multible positions like draymont, kahwi or lebron)

    2. Not every NBA wing is shooting like klay.

    3. His shooting form is okay, so i think he can be an average wing shooter in the league in some years.

    4. Bbal IQ is good, athletism is good, feel for the game is good, rebounding, passing is good.

    5. He is working real hard to accomplish his goal to be in the league as you see in his workouts. And you see that hard work and beeing aggressive is counting even more than talent in every draft /year. Example 2012 draymond, crowder ,Middleton al had good workouts but nobody saw star potential. 2013 dieng, plumlee, Adams al known as beeing aggressiv but other players " with more talent" were draftet higher.

     

    6. Resümee: he will be an NBA player for a while. If he will be an Starter or Form the bench, be a star or a role player only future knows.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1072032
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    1. He is able to defend SG and SF.

    ( not every NBA player is able to defend multible positions like draymont, kahwi or lebron)

    2. Not every NBA wing is shooting like klay.

    3. His shooting form is okay, so i think he can be an average wing shooter in the league in some years.

    4. Bbal IQ is good, athletism is good, feel for the game is good, rebounding, passing is good.

    5. He is working real hard to accomplish his goal to be in the league as you see in his workouts. And you see that hard work and beeing aggressive is counting even more than talent in every draft /year. Example 2012 draymond, crowder ,Middleton al had good workouts but nobody saw star potential. 2013 dieng, plumlee, Adams al known as beeing aggressiv but other players " with more talent" were draftet higher.

     

    6. Resümee: he will be an NBA player for a while. If he will be an Starter or Form the bench, be a star or a role player only future knows.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1071934
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    kobyz
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    He could be like Ron Harper…

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  • #1072051
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    He could be like Ron Harper…

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  • #1071972
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     Hes gonna be like Iggy.  Hes still only 21 and avg basically 18, 8 and 5, shot 55% from 2,  while playing great defense for a small school that didnt push the pace.

     

      Had he played for a team like UNC hed be a clear lotto talent.  He can guard 1-3 and start fro day one. Bembry is a surefire cog

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  • #1072088
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     Hes gonna be like Iggy.  Hes still only 21 and avg basically 18, 8 and 5, shot 55% from 2,  while playing great defense for a small school that didnt push the pace.

     

      Had he played for a team like UNC hed be a clear lotto talent.  He can guard 1-3 and start fro day one. Bembry is a surefire cog

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  • #1072003
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     Mayb like a more athletic and not AS good defensively tony allen?

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  • #1072119
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    TheWhiteLion
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     Mayb like a more athletic and not AS good defensively tony allen?

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  • #1072171
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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    Played at Saint Joe’s, tough nosed player with good athletic ability to go along with a great feel for the game

    He looks strong enough to defend PF in the modern NBA

    Might be a real stud on Defense and if he adds range on his jumper he’d be a Real 2 way threat

    I’d take him 26th at worst, 24th at best if I were in Colangelo’s shoes

     

     

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  • #1072055
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    Played at Saint Joe’s, tough nosed player with good athletic ability to go along with a great feel for the game

    He looks strong enough to defend PF in the modern NBA

    Might be a real stud on Defense and if he adds range on his jumper he’d be a Real 2 way threat

    I’d take him 26th at worst, 24th at best if I were in Colangelo’s shoes

     

     

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