[rickyfutureagentParticipant]

Outside of Embiid (he is a true all-around old school center that can dominate in this weak generation of 7 footers), I truly belive Dante Exum is the best prospect in this draft class. If Embiid is off the board, I am selecting Exum over Wiggins, Jabari, and Randle without hesitation. 

[WolfRobParticipant]

 Your also not a GM…. 

 

I think he’s up there, but the fact he is so unproven would make me hesitate. I couldn’t take him over Wiggins or Parker. He’s probably 4th on my big board.

[WolfRobParticipant]

 Your also not a GM…. 

 

I think he’s up there, but the fact he is so unproven would make me hesitate. I couldn’t take him over Wiggins or Parker. He’s probably 4th on my big board.

[lalailaParticipant]

he is the guy who will be under the mycroscope in combine and team workouts 

[lalailaParticipant]

he is the guy who will be under the mycroscope in combine and team workouts 

[ibe12Participant]

Exum does seem to have an impressive skill set for his size. I’m sure NBA scouts have seen him play plenty of games and from what I read he’s a lot like MCW. As much as I like MCW I wouldn’t take him over Wiggins, Randle and definitely not Parker.

[ibe12Participant]

Exum does seem to have an impressive skill set for his size. I’m sure NBA scouts have seen him play plenty of games and from what I read he’s a lot like MCW. As much as I like MCW I wouldn’t take him over Wiggins, Randle and definitely not Parker.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

 I think a lot of it is going to come down to draft needs. Bucks are obviously taking Embiid if they get the first pick, but I highly doubt the Sixers would take Exum #2. Parker is the man there for me if I’m Philly. He could be an offensive superstar there, and they could solidify their future with their later lottery pick by taking Gary Harris or maybe Vonleh/Randle. Exum could be very good, but the fact that he hasn’t played against College competition like the rest of these guys leaves more questions. 

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

 I think a lot of it is going to come down to draft needs. Bucks are obviously taking Embiid if they get the first pick, but I highly doubt the Sixers would take Exum #2. Parker is the man there for me if I’m Philly. He could be an offensive superstar there, and they could solidify their future with their later lottery pick by taking Gary Harris or maybe Vonleh/Randle. Exum could be very good, but the fact that he hasn’t played against College competition like the rest of these guys leaves more questions. 

[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

 Again, just because they’re "unknown" doesn’t mean s***. The impact foreign players have had on the game at this point is pretty amazing considering the small amount in the league 20-30 years ago. Look at how stupid half the teams in the draft look for passing on Giannis and he was a big "unknown". Exum is a stud, not sure I’d go out on as far as a limb as you did but I think there is a clear cut top 4 and he’s in it.

[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

 Again, just because they’re "unknown" doesn’t mean s***. The impact foreign players have had on the game at this point is pretty amazing considering the small amount in the league 20-30 years ago. Look at how stupid half the teams in the draft look for passing on Giannis and he was a big "unknown". Exum is a stud, not sure I’d go out on as far as a limb as you did but I think there is a clear cut top 4 and he’s in it.

[juves4783Participant]

let’s not bring up the good "unknowns" unless you also want to bring up the bad ones…tskishvilli and darko are two guys that were clear cut top 4’s in their respective drafts too.

taking overseas players is taking a gamble.  sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.  we’ll find out how well atlanta gambled last year…

  

[juves4783Participant]

let’s not bring up the good "unknowns" unless you also want to bring up the bad ones…tskishvilli and darko are two guys that were clear cut top 4’s in their respective drafts too.

taking overseas players is taking a gamble.  sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.  we’ll find out how well atlanta gambled last year…

  

[tuck243Participant]

Not lately… The last couple of international “superstars” have been highly overrated in the league. Bargs and Rubio comes to mind there.

We are years removed from Pau, Dirk, Manu, and Tony Parker. Look at the production that is coming from overseas now and I would say they have been wasted draft picks. Marc Gasol is already 29… He came into the league as somewhat of a man already… I wouldn’t take Exum over Wiggins or Parker right now. That’s just goofy…

[tuck243Participant]

Not lately… The last couple of international “superstars” have been highly overrated in the league. Bargs and Rubio comes to mind there.

We are years removed from Pau, Dirk, Manu, and Tony Parker. Look at the production that is coming from overseas now and I would say they have been wasted draft picks. Marc Gasol is already 29… He came into the league as somewhat of a man already… I wouldn’t take Exum over Wiggins or Parker right now. That’s just goofy…

[cycloParticipant]

Best case scenario:  Penny Hardaway  (I’d be shocked if he’s better than that)

Worst case scenario:  Shaun Livingston

The footage doesn’t live up to the hype.

Kind of "meh."

Nice kid.

Will go to the Lakers at #4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[hbomb3300Participant]

 A lot of people forget how good Livingston was becoming before he blew out his knee so I would take those comparisons all day lol

[hbomb3300Participant]

 A lot of people forget how good Livingston was becoming before he blew out his knee so I would take those comparisons all day lol

[cycloParticipant]

Best case scenario:  Penny Hardaway  (I’d be shocked if he’s better than that)

Worst case scenario:  Shaun Livingston

The footage doesn’t live up to the hype.

Kind of "meh."

Nice kid.

Will go to the Lakers at #4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

Drafting in general is a gamble, not just internationals, plenty of hyped up American college ballets have failed to live up to the hype. 

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

Drafting in general is a gamble, not just internationals, plenty of hyped up American college ballets have failed to live up to the hype. 

[WalkaFlockaParticipant]

 Call me crazy, but I like this Exum kid a lot. I never really see his name on here, and when I do it’s usually about how he’s "unknown". 

Hes not unknown, he went off for the Australian national team at the FIBA games earlier this year. That really intrigued me. What I love is his ability to get past the defense with lightning quick speed. I think when his jumpshot becomes dependant , he will be tough to guard, as NBA players won’t be able to close out so quickly for fear of a drive and leave him open to drain a 3. I think for a guy at 6’6", we haven’t seen his type of skill since Shaun Livingston pre-gruesome knee injury. I would definitely say Exum is a better player than Livingston at this point, and he still has a long way to go. 

In terms of ranking, I would not put him ahead of Embiid, Parker, or Wiggins, but quite possibly #4 right in front of Randle. 

Maybe I’m seriously missing something, but I can’t find a huge flaw with this kid. Yes, his jumpshot needs improving and he needs to add some weight, but other than that, I think he has a huge ceiling, with a limited floor. 

[WalkaFlockaParticipant]

 Call me crazy, but I like this Exum kid a lot. I never really see his name on here, and when I do it’s usually about how he’s "unknown". 

Hes not unknown, he went off for the Australian national team at the FIBA games earlier this year. That really intrigued me. What I love is his ability to get past the defense with lightning quick speed. I think when his jumpshot becomes dependant , he will be tough to guard, as NBA players won’t be able to close out so quickly for fear of a drive and leave him open to drain a 3. I think for a guy at 6’6", we haven’t seen his type of skill since Shaun Livingston pre-gruesome knee injury. I would definitely say Exum is a better player than Livingston at this point, and he still has a long way to go. 

In terms of ranking, I would not put him ahead of Embiid, Parker, or Wiggins, but quite possibly #4 right in front of Randle. 

Maybe I’m seriously missing something, but I can’t find a huge flaw with this kid. Yes, his jumpshot needs improving and he needs to add some weight, but other than that, I think he has a huge ceiling, with a limited floor. 

[Memphisboy14Participant]

Just not good enough to take him over guys like Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, and Jabari Parker. Even Julius Randle is a better prospect right now just because they have been properly evalutated in my opinion. I would take him over everyone else in the draft. It depends on where he is I think he won’t go higher than fourth but there is no way he is available as the seventh pick in the draft.

Now if he decided to play college ball he may be in the conversation for the 1st pick since he would be evaluated more often.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

Just not good enough to take him over guys like Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, and Jabari Parker. Even Julius Randle is a better prospect right now just because they have been properly evalutated in my opinion. I would take him over everyone else in the draft. It depends on where he is I think he won’t go higher than fourth but there is no way he is available as the seventh pick in the draft.

Now if he decided to play college ball he may be in the conversation for the 1st pick since he would be evaluated more often.

[Ebown5Participant]

I love Exum as well. As a Sixers fan my only concern with him is whether or not he is willing to play the 2 full time or if he really has his heart set on playing point. A true point with a devastating combo guard like Exum at the two could be really strong.

There are five true studs in this class and I would be happy to have any of them, but I would rank them as follows.

1. Embiid

2. Wiggins

3. Exum

4. Parker

5. Randle

Exum and Parker swap places back and forth for me as I think about this draft more and more, but I think that his greater defensive potential ultimately makes Exum the better prospect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Ebown5Participant]

I love Exum as well. As a Sixers fan my only concern with him is whether or not he is willing to play the 2 full time or if he really has his heart set on playing point. A true point with a devastating combo guard like Exum at the two could be really strong.

There are five true studs in this class and I would be happy to have any of them, but I would rank them as follows.

1. Embiid

2. Wiggins

3. Exum

4. Parker

5. Randle

Exum and Parker swap places back and forth for me as I think about this draft more and more, but I think that his greater defensive potential ultimately makes Exum the better prospect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[jwall1Participant]

 Exum IMO is really outside of the top 5 for me. I would not take him over Smart, Randle, Parker, Embiid, or Wiggins. Unless someone has personally scouted him, noone has seen him enought to justify that they would take him #2 without hesitation. Bold statement, but you really failed to back it up with reasons why you would take him over all the other guys.

[jwall1Participant]

 Exum IMO is really outside of the top 5 for me. I would not take him over Smart, Randle, Parker, Embiid, or Wiggins. Unless someone has personally scouted him, noone has seen him enought to justify that they would take him #2 without hesitation. Bold statement, but you really failed to back it up with reasons why you would take him over all the other guys.

[LitteringAnd…Participant]

 I agree that Exum has arguably the second highest potential in the class. The reason he will not be selected ahead of Wiggins and Parker is the, as stated, the lack of exposure. GMs risk their jobs on these picks and they value anything approaching a ‘sure-thing’ very highly. While some may see Exum’s potential I doubt many are willing to use a top three pick and then be fired down the road because they passed up on a few players who turn into all-stars or stars (if you’re reading this Dumars do the right thing and fire yourself). I think he’ll go in the 4-6 range and it’ll come down to who is picking there: what are their needs? are the headed for a period of mediocrity and happy to take an "upside-guy"? 

If the Lakers keep sucking and get the 4th pick I do think they’d go with him, have him learn the 2-gaurd trade from Kobe. 

  

[LitteringAnd…Participant]

 I agree that Exum has arguably the second highest potential in the class. The reason he will not be selected ahead of Wiggins and Parker is the, as stated, the lack of exposure. GMs risk their jobs on these picks and they value anything approaching a ‘sure-thing’ very highly. While some may see Exum’s potential I doubt many are willing to use a top three pick and then be fired down the road because they passed up on a few players who turn into all-stars or stars (if you’re reading this Dumars do the right thing and fire yourself). I think he’ll go in the 4-6 range and it’ll come down to who is picking there: what are their needs? are the headed for a period of mediocrity and happy to take an "upside-guy"? 

If the Lakers keep sucking and get the 4th pick I do think they’d go with him, have him learn the 2-gaurd trade from Kobe. 

  

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

 Too small of a sample size. Steve Adams dominated the summer camp scene then struggled against good comp in college. Right now he’s playing we but if he was a top 4 pick he would be considered a bust. Exum lookd good in AllStar settings and dominates his age group in Austraila but neither is at the level of college basketball or close to the NBA. Right now he’s unproven which would make me very skeptical. I’m not picking him over anyone who is more proven. You can’t compare him and Giannius because that kid was playing in a pro leauge proven what he can do while Exum is playing against guys who won’t even get scholarships to major D1 schools.

 

if you pick Exum too high in this deep draft you have a chance of being fired if he doesn’t pan out while the other guys thrive.

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

 Too small of a sample size. Steve Adams dominated the summer camp scene then struggled against good comp in college. Right now he’s playing we but if he was a top 4 pick he would be considered a bust. Exum lookd good in AllStar settings and dominates his age group in Austraila but neither is at the level of college basketball or close to the NBA. Right now he’s unproven which would make me very skeptical. I’m not picking him over anyone who is more proven. You can’t compare him and Giannius because that kid was playing in a pro leauge proven what he can do while Exum is playing against guys who won’t even get scholarships to major D1 schools.

 

if you pick Exum too high in this deep draft you have a chance of being fired if he doesn’t pan out while the other guys thrive.

[IknowitallJKParticipant]

He was overhyped coming in because of all the Lebron and Kobe comparisions. Now people are unvaluing his game. He is having a good freshman year. Next time yall watch him look at how easy he gets his shoot off. Dude does not have many moves on the preimiter yet. At his height he can stay with the quicker players in the NCAA and he puts in effort on D. With training his handles are going to get better, and all idications are that he works hard on his game. His stroke looks fine. In time I can see him developing into a PG type wing player. I like his mental makeup listening to him in interviews he seems very level headed. He seems to know where he needs to work on his came and is coachable. The tournement will give us more clearity on who the top dog on Kansus team is and who ever shows more there will be top pick. 

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

Agreed. He’s not as good as some people hyped him up to be (mainly the media) but he’s not as bad as some think now (once again mainly the media).

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

Agreed. He’s not as good as some people hyped him up to be (mainly the media) but he’s not as bad as some think now (once again mainly the media).

[IknowitallJKParticipant]

He was overhyped coming in because of all the Lebron and Kobe comparisions. Now people are unvaluing his game. He is having a good freshman year. Next time yall watch him look at how easy he gets his shoot off. Dude does not have many moves on the preimiter yet. At his height he can stay with the quicker players in the NCAA and he puts in effort on D. With training his handles are going to get better, and all idications are that he works hard on his game. His stroke looks fine. In time I can see him developing into a PG type wing player. I like his mental makeup listening to him in interviews he seems very level headed. He seems to know where he needs to work on his came and is coachable. The tournement will give us more clearity on who the top dog on Kansus team is and who ever shows more there will be top pick. 

[PlatypusParticipant]

I know this is weird but i wish their was a top prospect game like their is on 2k14. It would be great to see players go up against other top players before they are drafted

[PlatypusParticipant]

I know this is weird but i wish their was a top prospect game like their is on 2k14. It would be great to see players go up against other top players before they are drafted

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I like the gutsy-ness if your statement. It occurred to me that you COULD be right. I think depends on how well his jumper is on draft day. He’s got a lot of time to just sit and reconstruct it. His season is over and I hope he finds the right people to help. 

Size-wise MCW is a fine comparison, but they have different skills. MCW is a superior passer and much better leaper. Exum is faster and more of a scoring threat (which is why his jumper will be more important to him than MCW’s is to MCW).

I’ll still take Embiid and Wiggins over him. 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I like the gutsy-ness if your statement. It occurred to me that you COULD be right. I think depends on how well his jumper is on draft day. He’s got a lot of time to just sit and reconstruct it. His season is over and I hope he finds the right people to help. 

Size-wise MCW is a fine comparison, but they have different skills. MCW is a superior passer and much better leaper. Exum is faster and more of a scoring threat (which is why his jumper will be more important to him than MCW’s is to MCW).

I’ll still take Embiid and Wiggins over him. 

 

[4ngetnmoreDUKEParticipant]

 I wouldnt take Exum 2nd at all….not saying he is not any good but he isnt that good. And honestly i wouldnt take Embiid first either or Wiggins. Embiid needs one more year. We all know more than likely he wont but he needs it. He has alot of potential but i am not seeing a guy thats number one worthy. Not with the guys in this draft. The NBA is not a patient league at all. Especially with big men. He is a project if you want a guy that gets you 8 boarzs and 2 blocks maybe but thats not a top pick. If someone takes time with him amd he stays another year he could be good. The hakeem comparison is stupid look at hakeems games as a freshman he was an unstoppable monster. And like i always say about wiggins he needs another year too…he is not experienced at the perimeter i question his drive and heart in clutch situations and i tjink he is too passive. Everyone in the league can jump and run but does he have that one thing that makes him better and go above most? i dont know if he does i have not seen it. Not cause im a duke fan but because its the truth Jabari Parker is the best and should be first. The kinds of shots he has in his arsenal the way he creates his own shot plays post rebounds and has unsuspecting athleticism is awesome. And like coach k said he is carrying 15 more pounds than he should cause of there need of a big man. At 6’8 220-225 in the league he is a  better version less selfish and better defensive carmelo anthony. I got Jabari first embbiid if theyre patient marcus smart cause of his drive to win passion and worth ethic then wiggins cause of his raw ralent then randle if he realizes his jumpshot needs improvement he isnt a franchise guy but the 2 or 3 guy on a championship team. 6’9 short arms and small hands dont mix in the league down low. Then i have exum. Exum is going to be on a bigger platform somethig he is not used too like the rest of these guys bigger stronger guys and i dont know his worth ethic. A GM might but long term under certain circumstances this is my order.

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Embiid has rapidly improved this year and has met challenges and succeeded them. Bill Self told him he wasn’t fierce enough, so he started pushing people around and even got some technicals. He started getting double teamed and began turning the ball over. A few games later he was timing them right, passing out of them, or getting around them. 

He’s sponge, he’s a good learner, and you send those type of guys to the NBA. 

I agree that he’s not strong enough and doesn’t have set moves down enough to be awesome for a little while. But the MLB did a study that showed the earlier you reach the MLB, the greater you career ceiling (and a greater chance you fail too). I assume the NBA is the same. Getting there early can make or break you.

Whoever takes him will be taking a risk considering the other talent in the class. If he began playing in the NBA tomorrow though, he’d be respectable by the end of the year. He’s already 240-250pounds, but he’d learn pretty quickly that he needs another 20 pounds.

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Embiid has rapidly improved this year and has met challenges and succeeded them. Bill Self told him he wasn’t fierce enough, so he started pushing people around and even got some technicals. He started getting double teamed and began turning the ball over. A few games later he was timing them right, passing out of them, or getting around them. 

He’s sponge, he’s a good learner, and you send those type of guys to the NBA. 

I agree that he’s not strong enough and doesn’t have set moves down enough to be awesome for a little while. But the MLB did a study that showed the earlier you reach the MLB, the greater you career ceiling (and a greater chance you fail too). I assume the NBA is the same. Getting there early can make or break you.

Whoever takes him will be taking a risk considering the other talent in the class. If he began playing in the NBA tomorrow though, he’d be respectable by the end of the year. He’s already 240-250pounds, but he’d learn pretty quickly that he needs another 20 pounds.

 

[4ngetnmoreDUKEParticipant]

 I wouldnt take Exum 2nd at all….not saying he is not any good but he isnt that good. And honestly i wouldnt take Embiid first either or Wiggins. Embiid needs one more year. We all know more than likely he wont but he needs it. He has alot of potential but i am not seeing a guy thats number one worthy. Not with the guys in this draft. The NBA is not a patient league at all. Especially with big men. He is a project if you want a guy that gets you 8 boarzs and 2 blocks maybe but thats not a top pick. If someone takes time with him amd he stays another year he could be good. The hakeem comparison is stupid look at hakeems games as a freshman he was an unstoppable monster. And like i always say about wiggins he needs another year too…he is not experienced at the perimeter i question his drive and heart in clutch situations and i tjink he is too passive. Everyone in the league can jump and run but does he have that one thing that makes him better and go above most? i dont know if he does i have not seen it. Not cause im a duke fan but because its the truth Jabari Parker is the best and should be first. The kinds of shots he has in his arsenal the way he creates his own shot plays post rebounds and has unsuspecting athleticism is awesome. And like coach k said he is carrying 15 more pounds than he should cause of there need of a big man. At 6’8 220-225 in the league he is a  better version less selfish and better defensive carmelo anthony. I got Jabari first embbiid if theyre patient marcus smart cause of his drive to win passion and worth ethic then wiggins cause of his raw ralent then randle if he realizes his jumpshot needs improvement he isnt a franchise guy but the 2 or 3 guy on a championship team. 6’9 short arms and small hands dont mix in the league down low. Then i have exum. Exum is going to be on a bigger platform somethig he is not used too like the rest of these guys bigger stronger guys and i dont know his worth ethic. A GM might but long term under certain circumstances this is my order.

[VintageKobeParticipant]

 I used to really be high on Exum. Still am but not like I used to be. It’s hard to evaluate players playing overseas. Especially overseas vs high schoolers. I also question his vertical explosiveness. He’s a great athlete. Very quick, but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t get up high at all. He looks like he has a below average vert. That’s. Gonna hurt his already questionable finishing ability. I’d take him after Embiid, wiggins, and maybe Parker. He has potential but I don’t see his ceiling being close to wiggins or embiids 

[VintageKobeParticipant]

 I used to really be high on Exum. Still am but not like I used to be. It’s hard to evaluate players playing overseas. Especially overseas vs high schoolers. I also question his vertical explosiveness. He’s a great athlete. Very quick, but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t get up high at all. He looks like he has a below average vert. That’s. Gonna hurt his already questionable finishing ability. I’d take him after Embiid, wiggins, and maybe Parker. He has potential but I don’t see his ceiling being close to wiggins or embiids 

[theballerwayParticipant]

Im justnot on the wagon with Exum at all. Hes got good height for a guard (even point) and IO keep reading about how quick he is. Oh and that he’s fast. Hes being lauded as a point guard prospect but nobody ever talks about his game management skills or vision. Handling the ball against that Aus HS defense is one thing but running the point in the league is another. Im not going to bother with the shooting issue as many young players have problems in this area but decent shooting ability would help open up the lanes for him to use that speed opposed to sagging off him. I am also very skeptical about his ability to finish in the paint once he uses this legendary speed to get to the paint as he’s not shown to be a vertical athlete and hes skinny. Im not even gonna discuss who hes going to defend, I guess the speed will be an asset here but again strength will be a liabilty as well as experience.

Now Im obviously harping on the negatives but only because I cant see that he currently brings more than -Parker, Randle, Joel, or Wiggins. –

I understand his bloodlines etc but as a gm I cant see how you could take him before any of the big 4 unless you were absolutely desperate for a guard but even then  I cant imagine much immediate impact being made. If he was a big man wed say hes a project.

Anywhere after 5th pick

[theballerwayParticipant]

Im justnot on the wagon with Exum at all. Hes got good height for a guard (even point) and IO keep reading about how quick he is. Oh and that he’s fast. Hes being lauded as a point guard prospect but nobody ever talks about his game management skills or vision. Handling the ball against that Aus HS defense is one thing but running the point in the league is another. Im not going to bother with the shooting issue as many young players have problems in this area but decent shooting ability would help open up the lanes for him to use that speed opposed to sagging off him. I am also very skeptical about his ability to finish in the paint once he uses this legendary speed to get to the paint as he’s not shown to be a vertical athlete and hes skinny. Im not even gonna discuss who hes going to defend, I guess the speed will be an asset here but again strength will be a liabilty as well as experience.

Now Im obviously harping on the negatives but only because I cant see that he currently brings more than -Parker, Randle, Joel, or Wiggins. –

I understand his bloodlines etc but as a gm I cant see how you could take him before any of the big 4 unless you were absolutely desperate for a guard but even then  I cant imagine much immediate impact being made. If he was a big man wed say hes a project.

Anywhere after 5th pick

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