[jojososaParticipant]

Ok we all kno williams still hasn’t made an all star game n his career but, u have to say he is tha best pg n tha league, he’s big, strong has a nice stroke from almost every where, nasty crossover, and he can drop nice dimes ( Sick passes), I think he is a better overall player than CP3 is while some may beg 2 differ. Who is better n ur opinion.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

D.Will 100%

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

i will never agree that deron williams is better than cp3.

cp3 will be the best point guard for years…..

[j1232eParticipant]

is bigger and stronger. d-will dominates paul everytime they play against each other.

[butidonthavemoney]

But we could argue all day. I think have made my feelings very clear on the subject.

By squirmydude at 2009-07-18

[JNixonParticipant]

CHRIS PAUL

[White ChocolateParticipant]

D-Will 110%

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

This is real hard. I think it’s a toss-up and just depends on what you like in a point guard. You really can’t go wrong with either. I would chose D-Will because he’s bigger and stronger.

[da guru]

chris paul all his stats are better

[MagikKnickParticipant]

CP3, better shooter
CP3, better passer (arguable)
D-Will, smarter (aruguable)
defensively, it can sway either way, but CP3 gets the steals so lets go with him
D-Will, “better at doing the little things”

Its a close matchup, if i was playing a pick-up game, i’d choose D-Will
but if I was starting a franchise, Chris Paul

[da guru]

williams is the better shooter tho

[White ChocolateParticipant]

It’s like Jason Kidd is Chris Paul and Deron Williams is Steve Nash. Who is better Kidd or Nash? I think Nash is better.

[White ChocolateParticipant]

D-Will is the better shooter. Paul is the better passer maybe, but who won the Play Station Skills Challenge? Not Chris Paul, but guess who? D-Will!

[da guru]

jazz fan you fool kidd 2 finals nash no finals cuz he gets destroyed when he faces tony parker and marion cant shoot of the dribble

[MagikKnickParticipant]

CP3 averaged 22 while shooting 50%, how many guards shoot 50%…

[White ChocolateParticipant]

Umm, most of those are floaters and lay-ups how many guards can average 50% FG percentage shooting floaters and lay-ups I think a lot.

[llperez]

But I’ll take cp3 just barely. He controls the game better and does’nt settle as much on offense. He’s also a little better on d. DWilliams is bigger and a better shooter. He also is probably better at pushing the ball in transition.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

It’s a really tough decision. Like I said above… I’d go with D. Will, because I like big and strong point guards. I didn’t like the way Dahntay Jones was able to push Paul around during the playoffs. It REALLY bothered him. He also struggled guarding Billups. Paul’s numbers were down across the board versus Denver.

On the other hand, Paul put up better numbers during the regular season. I mean, Paul’s FG% and 3-PT% were higher than D. Will’s. Paul shot 50% FG and 36% 3-PT compared to 47% FG and 31% 3-PT for D. Will. Paul averaged more points and assists. He even averages way more rebounds. It’s not even close. Paul 5.5 boards compared to D. Will’s 2.9. The steals aren’t close either. D. Will also averaged more turnovers. I also think Paul has more leadership ability.

It’s seriously a toss-up because they’re both great/franchise point guards. I’m going with D. Will though.

[da guru]

paul 22.8ppg 11apg 5.5rpg 2.8spg williams 19.4ppg 10.7ppg 2.9rpg 1.1spg

[nthegoodlifeParticipant]

D Will is the better. He always kills it on O, but he never gets abused on the other end. CP3 can’t guard many of the leagues bigger guards. Not to mention, CP3’s stats are inflated due to the fact he has the ball in his hands all game (just like Queen James). DWill runs an actual offense. Only thing you could say CP3 does better, is what, get steals (who cares, I’ll take great D any day). So without any doubt, DWill is in a league all by himself.

[dwat4444Participant]

I’ve watched Williams play a lot of times the last year cuz my favorite teams are in the NW and there really isn’t nothing exciting about him. He doesn’t seem to play with the attitude of a playmaker. Chris Paul does. When you watch Paul your going to get excited. However, nothing about williams really excites me. He has the same skill set as Paul. Equal shooting. Paul’s a better passer. Equal floor vision. Equal leadership. But Paul’s attitude about himself makes him better. He goes out there and it’s his game to control. Williams is often times considered the 2nd or 3rd best player on the court. That almost never happens with Paul. It’s the way he plays.I believe that is why Pauls better. Go ahead and argue but that’s my belief.

[da guru]

great d cj watson had 38 on him

[da guru]

top 5 pgs paul, billups, healthy baron davis,williams tony parker

[butidonthavemoney]

You lost me after “there really isn’t nothing exciting about him”.

[dwat4444Participant]

C’mon. There’s a reason that Williams isn’t one of the people mentioned when a Clippers fan is deciding on which player they want to see play against the clippers live this season…lol

[JNixonParticipant]

Chris Paul gets to the rim better, can create offense for himself and for others better. If Deron Williams wanted to lead the NBA in assists, his points would be sacrificed. If he wanted to lead the Jazz in points, his assists would be sacrificed. Chris Paul can lead the NBA in assists and lead his team in points without sacrificing in either area. If you look past stats, Chris Paul is more likely to take over games and is a better leader.

[nthegoodlifeParticipant]

Do you not notice the BALL STAYs IN CP’s HANDS ALL GAME. He should have more assist and more looks at the basket, its just PLAIN LOGIC. If you can’t understand that, then I’m done talking!

[dwat4444Participant]

Iguodala that’s exactly what I’m saying. D-will is not a reason to go see a basketball game. CP3 is. There’s a reason for that. Thank you

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

New Orleans and Utah run two completely different offenses. Utah has a system while New Orlean’s runs a pick and roll w/ CP3 every play. I almost feel like CP3 has the ball much more than D. Will. It’s almost sad to a point because it wears CP3 down and when he goes out of the game, they SUCK. Their offense is TOO dependent on him.

[j1232eParticipant]

his crossover ankle breakers are enough of a reason to see d-will.

[JNixonParticipant]

Blame him for being able to get to the basket at will. Blame him for being the guy the Hornets run everything through, for being a good player. Just because the ball is always in his hands shouldnt mean he is better or worse than another player.

[JNixonParticipant]

Chris Paul definitely has a better crossover than Deron Williams. I know you dont think you can say Deron Williams has a nice crossover and think you made a point sir.

[j1232eParticipant]

wrong. thier is no right or wrong answer on this topic. they are both great pgs paul runs new orleans offence great dwill runs utah offence great.

[dwat4444Participant]

You do realise that Paul embelishes his role as the leader and playmaker on his team. If he didn’t have the skill set to do that then New Orleans would be god aweful. Do you honestly think Williams would want that role? Maybe, but would he be able to do it like Paul? Doubt it. He isn’t considered a top 5 player by almost everyone for a reason. Also I’d like to point out that minusing points for every single comment I make even if I doesn’t say anything that makes a point isn’t a good way to prove something…

[JNixonParticipant]

BOTH OF US are wrong then. How you gon say IM run when you were discussing it too?

[j1232eParticipant]

about crossovers!

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Chris Paul is great but I think If I was building a team, I rather have D-Will. He’s bigger and stronger and he can pass like Paul.

[daballaParticipant]

It’s a matter of preference. If you like bigger stronger point guards you go with Williams. If you like smaller quicker point guards then you go with Paul. The benefit of Williams is that offensively he won’t be pushed around by strong defenders while defensively he’s big enough to guard shooting guards. The benefit of Paul is that he’s a little better at pushing the ball up the court since he’s faster and he can get into the lane more easily. Based on their skills I would have to say I prefer Williams because he’s a little more versatile and he has some of the same traits as Chauncey Billups, my favorite player. But if I wanted to build a franchise around one of them I would want Paul for the reasons dwat4444 stated. Of course if I already had good leadership on my team I would probably go Williams.

[White ChocolateParticipant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1FHrtkMMYs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM53-Y5Kybc&feature=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyOpsqBX7Ls&feature=relatedrelated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vo__HUFqWk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9_xHD9zNE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky_G8TUp6sk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1FHrtkMMYs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKSk2VkcpNM

[Knicksboy34Participant]

I think Williams is the leader of Utah and his numbers are notch below Franchise players but I think if he had to, he could be a 20ppg,10apg guy

Edit : he is already there and I don’t see a big difference in his and Paul’s numbers

[arc1212Participant]

williams is a stud and he’s stronger…but it’s not all about strenghth
i’ve always loved cp3 just for the craftiness and for those who say deron is a better shooter…i’d say it’s dead even in that regard
chris paul got alot of assist from chandler….all you have to do is throw that thing up and he’ll get it
but in terms of a pure point guard…it’s paul
in terms of a scoring point or combo…it’s williams
i don’t think either is better than the other though…just different

[j1232eParticipant]

deron lead his team in points and assists this year!

[Knicksboy34Participant]

we know that.

All in all, I think the Cap is not huge between Williams and Paul. I rather take D-Will

[butidonthavemoney]

I don’t blame anybody for not knowing too much about D-Will. Utah is a smaller marketed team and also one of ther most hated teams in the league. Probably because of the fans. They can be pretty brutal down there.

[butidonthavemoney]

Dude that was amazing. Deron “could” be a 20/10 guy if he had to. That is pretty much the attitude of everybody when it comes to Deron Williams. Thanks for looking up the stats, because not everybody does.

If you remember he was playing injured for most of the season before the all star break. His numbers weren’t as good and that is why he didn’t make the team. When he got healthy his numbers shot back up. He averaged more assists than Paul two years ago, and was very close to his numbers now.

iguodala9 said that Deron can’t lead his team in points and lead the league in assists but he only averaged 3 points and .3 assists less than Paul did.

[bluedevils12Participant]

with many of u to many times before. and for those who say chris paul is the better SHOOTER u are all idiots. u obviously dont watch deron williams play if u think that. and even those of u who say cp3 is better on D again u are idiots. jus becuase u average 2 steals or watever cp3 averages doesnt mean he plays better D. if u get 3 steals but ur man still drops 30 on u then u obviously didnt do that good on defense. matter of fact u basically blow it if u think thats true. So many of u who think u kno basketball get so caught up in stats. U think becuase a guy has this on paper that he’s better. you guys completely forget about the fact that there are coaches who run a certain system and that players who play in a system will contribute in different ways. as nthegoodlife said earlier cp3 has the ball in his hands the whole game. of course he will get more shots or more assist. thats why i think that the jazz drafted deron for a certain reason. they realized chris paul could not run their offense or wouldnt be very effective doing that. i guesss when it comes down 2 it we can never have a real debate about who the better guard is. when i say deron destroys cp everytime they play someone else makes up a lie and says cp3 didnt play hard or jus any bull$hit. basically we will never know who’s better as long as ppl are not willing to admit their fav player has flaws. Im a dwill fan but i also will admit that he’s not the best player in the league and that he has things he needs 2 work on. but when i say deron is th ebest pg in the league i do mean it.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I was a huge fan of both guys when they came into the league. I remember thinking wow, the Hawks are going to be so lucky to get one of these guys, then they go out and draft Marvin Williams. Initially I thought Deron was better, but now I am going with CP3. Both guys have improved tremendously. I also think both are excellent defenders, but in different ways. Paul’s shooting was ridiculous this past year. He still wills his teams to wins despite not having much to work with. He’s also younger than Deron. Deron is working with 3 former all stars on his team and a hall of fame coach. I think if you made the guys switch teams, Utah would still be really good with Paul. I think New Orleans would be worse, but I think Deron would average a lot more points there as well.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Williams was the perfect choice for the Jazz with the 3rd pick and he runs their offense to protection. Im also sure that New Orleans is happy with their pick.

[STEVEDOT2Participant]

if the ball is in pauls hands most the time then he will have better stats because everybody stats revolve around him most the game but isnt that a pgs jobs…….but the ball is in his hand alot since he is pg already…but i like d will better n but i like cp3 alot to but i like lebron better

[JNixonParticipant]

I said lead the NBA in assists and HIS TEAM in points. Deron Williams will never lead the league in assists and his team in ppg in the same year.

[thetruthParticipant]

point blank and simple.

[butidonthavemoney]

Deron Williams led the NBA in assists per 48 minutes. He was .3 assists away from leading the NBA in assists per game.

Dude, put some logic or reason in your posts.

[j1232eParticipant]

I was actually waiting for that igudalla guy to realize this. I think he is arguing for the sake of arguing!

[butidonthavemoney]

Both players are really good. I’m not going to get mad at somebody for thinking Chris Paul is better than Deron Williams. But when people say things like “Chris Paul dominates Deron Williams”, “Deron Williams isn’t a pure point guard”, or “Deron Williams will never lead the NBA in assists”, I get a little flustered. Do some research people.

[STEVEDOT2Participant]

DERON WILLAMS PROVED HES 1 OF THE MOST UNGAURDABLE PLAYERS IN THE PLAYOFFS….
HE RUNS A SYSTEM IN HIS TEAM MAKES IT TO THE PLAYOFFS………..WHEN HE NEEDS TO GET HIS TEAM OVER THE HUNCH HE WILL……….I DONT SEE HIM GETTING BULLIED BY ANY TYPE OF GAURD LIKE CP3 HAS BEEN….CP3 REALLY HAD A COMING OUT PARTY THE SEASON OF 08…….CP3 CAN BALL I LOVE HIS GAME TO BUT IM A UTAH FAN AND I LIKE SHOOTING POINTS………….CHRIS ADDED MORE MUSCLE SO FOR HOW LONG CAN WE SAY DERON WILLIAMS IS BIGGER THEN HIM….BUT I THINK THERE BOTH GOOD I JUST LIKE DERON BETTER

[JNixonParticipant]

But he didnt lead the NBA in assists though, he was .3 away. Yall are arguing for him, but he averaged less assists.Simple as that. Im sorry. Its not my fault he came up short.

[butidonthavemoney]

You said he would never lead the NBA in assists without giving any reasons for it. How can you say that when he was so close? When he lead the NBA in assists per 48 minutes? You said his offensive game would suffer. Please explain why.

[STEVEDOT2Participant]

A TRUE POINT GAURD ISNT DETERMIND BY ASSIT IF I GET THE BALL WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE DONT TURN IT OVER…AND CAN EXCUTE IN CRUNCH TIME AND THE WHOLE GAME THATS A GOOD POINT….BILLUPS GOT HIS TEAM TO THE FINALS BUT DIDNT AVERAGE 10 ASSIST A GAME.,,,,,,,,ASSIT SHOULDNT HAVE TO DETERMINE WHOS THE BETTER POINT

[ckowalskiParticipant]

What is your point on crunch time? Williams led his team to 1 win in the playoffs on a last second shot by Boozer and CP3 led his team to 1 win also. And when exactly did Deron Williams prove he was one of the most unguardable players in the playoffs?

[STEVEDOT2Participant]

the whole la seris this year n last!!!! nobody on he lakers could gaurd him and when i say ungaurdable im saying hes a monster he can create his own shot at any time and can knock it down at a high rate but he rather run the jazz system then jack up shoots and when i say in crunch time i meen deron can inbound the ball without getting it stole pus it up the court under full court pressure with out turing it over or waisting the clock when its tie game 45 seconds left in the 4th he has a high iq the measure of a point gaurd isnt assit its how he runs a team and its how a team looks for a leader most look at the point thelakers look for fisher and kobe…nuggets billups…..cavs lebron….you can say lebron is the cavs point he racks up assit and the ball is in his hand smost the game hew sets up teammates in all…..he runs his team….

i think a great point can have 10 points a game in 5 assit because most things that really help a team dont show up on stats

on ball d…..speed,,,strength…feel for the game…….respect from team mates….self confidence…trust of the coach…ability to rattle other players{ron artest.matt harppning}……..chemistry{iverson got traded to th epistons an did bad becaus ethey didnt have this he didnt kno where they liked the balll how fast certain players was..plays players made with each other

all this things really affect if a team wins or lose in crunch time in i think deron has all of the above

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