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  • #68967
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    AdamJCalleja
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    A friend and I were discussing an all time list for the 2000s and we were really stuck on who we ranked higher. D Wade or Steph Curry? And upon first thought I was like Curry is a no brainer, then I really thought about it and I was like damn, it’s actually really close especially at this point in stephs career. Personally I think D wades 2006 playoff run and finals performance put him over the top.

     

    Who you guys got ranked higher on the all time list from 2000-present?

     

     

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  • #1122903
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    KIP Baller
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    That is pretty close but I would lean toward Wade. He might be the 3rd best sg of all time. His 2006 finals run was one of the best of all time. 

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  • #1122904
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    I go with Wade – Curry is absolutely amazing and left a big impact on the way the game is now played, but that 06 finals run I put up there with 1 of the greatest ever.
    There are only a few people who could have done something like that with the list starting with Jordan, Bryant & LeBron.

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  • #1122905
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    I know Steph has played six less seasons and D Wade’s 2006 playoff run and Finals performance stand out, but I’d go with Steph. 

    Back to back MVPs (One unanimous). On team w/ 73-9 regular season record. Three championships in first 9 seasons (same as D Wade). The biggest reason for me is I think Steph has already established himself as the greatest shooter of all-time and has revolutionized the game.  

     

     

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  • #1122909
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    cohenbc1
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     If both players retired today, it’s a tossup. Which means Curry is likely to finish well ahead.

     

     

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  • #1122910
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    The Goat
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     Made me think about the best 2Gs of all time.. MJ and Kobe are obviously 1-2. How do you rank the top 10? I’ll go: 

    3. Manu Ginobili

    4. Dwyane Wade

    5. Jerry West

    6. Allen Iverson

    7. Ray Allen

    8. James Harden

    9. Clyde Drexler

    10. Latrell Sprewell

    Yes, Spree over Reggie. He was a beast at his peak circa Carlisemo strangulation.

     

    Ginobili dragging that Argentina team of fringe NBA players to Olympic gold pushed him over Wade for me. Very skilled and a champion.

    I also considered Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady to be 3s. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1122917
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      HobbyOG
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       How in the hell you put Manu over D-Wade??????????? Or even have him that high. 

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      • #1122946
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        The Goat
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        Just personal opinion. Ginobili was the leader on a gold medal team that beat 12 all stars. He was integral to multiple NBA championships. What couldn’t he do at his peak? He distributed the ball and defended well, always scored and he shot the ball from outside. He was at a really high level already right about when Wade was drafted.  

        Gervin just missed and is right there with Reggie Miller, Alex English and Mitch Richmond. I still have Wade up there but i don’t see any accomplishments that tell me he is 100% ranked #3 all time. I still have multiple MVPs below him on that list.

        Put your money where your mouth is – where’s your list?

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    • #1122920
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      Snatalini247
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       I guess you consider GEorge Gervin a 3 too?

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  • #1122911
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    Andv1 Waiting
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     Ones a P.G and the other is a SG so you can’t really have this conversation lol JK.

    Its a hard one to say really and it is dependent on how you view both of their rosters and what you define as success…Also they are at different points of their careers D-wade now coming close to the end of his and Curry starting to reach the middle of his prime. So ones story is just about fully written vs one is still ongoing.

    D-wade won a ring early on in the piece 3years in and even won Finals MVP with a significantly worse roster incomparrison to Currys team who had the big 3(Dray,Klay and Curry) and the worst part is IGGY got Finals MVP over him. Also to be fair I don’t think Curry has legitimately turned up in the Final except maybe last year and this is his 4th go around at that and K.D still got the Finals MVP over him…

    Curry took a lot longer to get to the finals 2015 which is 6 seasons vs D-wades 3.

    Curry has won 2 MVPs which he does have this over D-wade who has 0, 1 which was slightly controversial and even the players thought Harden deserved it over him due to carrying a lesser roster. It also depends on if you believe a media lead vote also is validating as we could debate the best player doesn’t always get this Award. Don’t get me wrong Curry definitely earned the 2nd though.

    Dwade has more olympic medals than Curry 2 to 0 and I don’t know if Curry will ever catch him on that due to age.

    Curry has a better track record at the WChamps 2 gold vs 1 Dwade bronze.

    Curry’s team has the greatest win record in NBA history at 73.

    D-wade has all NBA defensive teams x 3 to Curry’s 0 Dwade has 8 all Nba teams vs Currys 5 however I don’t know if them having a super team will ever allow him to possibly be in the top 2 All NBA teams for a long time unless due to injuries..

    Curry is part of the 50-40-90 club  and lead the league in 3 pointers made something D-wade hasn’t done.

    Curry has had better success in the finals 3/4(lost to Cavs) vs Dwade 3/5(lost to Spurs and Mavs)

    But the biggest difference was majorly this: Miami had 2 big stars in Dwades first run where he got  finals MVP(an older shaq+ some solid role players) and the big 3 with corpses in the 2nd run to the finals vs Curry each time they added more to their roster first their big 3 + Iggy and Harrison B beat Cavs in their first run, they lost on their 2nd run but had 73 wins and then added K.D making it now a big 4. After their 3rd ring they then added another top 15 NBA player in rehabbing Cousins due to him taking a discount…

    Which leads to the final answer of: The only way you could justify who brought more value overall and is better is dependent on the following:

    The playstyle you want your team to play finesse and 3pointers(Curry) vs Slashing,out running and playing tight defense(D-wade), Do you think D-wade could have done more damage in his prime if the heatles had another top 20 Nba player in their prime on their team,Do you value Rings or winning with lesser Rosters and Do you value 2 way players greater than 1 way players that have to be covered on the defensive end but give hope to the less athletic.  Because what you choose after answering these questions will dictate who "you” see as better player.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1122961
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      OhCanada-
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       Simply put followed by 10 paragraphs haha.

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  • #1122913
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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    If you are ranking them right now based strictly on what they’ve accomplished to this point wade has to be first. Wade has played longer and his sheer volume of work is more impressive. But it’s not really a fair comparison because wades legacy is pretty much determined at this point and curry still likely has a lot left to add to his. Curry already has 2 mvps to wades 0 and has revolutionized the game in a way that wade (as great as he was) never did. A few more seasons at a superstar level could easily move him past wade imo.

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  • #1122915
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    whiteflash
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     As good as Wade was, he was just a lesser version of something we’ve already seen, and that ’06 Finals is the most blatant case of the league forcing the refs hands I’ve ever seen. One man shooting more ft’s than an entire team is comical. 

    Curry has completely revolutionized the game, has four straight Finals appearances and two MVP’s. 

    Wade was a total stud, but this really isn’t close.

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  • #1122916
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     It’s hard to make a true comparison as all Curry’s success has come with two good/great players at his side in Klay Thompson and Draymond Green. Wade was absolutely incredible carrying Miami well before LeBron James ever darkened the door. Obviously carrying an ok Heat team to the ’06 finals victory is the cherry on the top of Wade’s individual dominance. Curry never had the opportunity to do that. I guess I’d have to say Wade had a better individual season, but Curry’s massive success will likely put him ahead in the long run.

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  • #1122919
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    high floor
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    I ride the fence on this one…… Steph drove the ship of a 73-9 team. He was absolutely spectacular, and his offensive impact throughout his career IMO is higher than Wade’s. His style of play in some ways has revolutionized NBA offenses…. as great as Wade is you can’t say the same about his offense.

    However, Wade’s defense was spectacular in his prime. So if you take Dwyane’s impact on both sides of the ball I think it comes out close to a wash. 

    Gun to my head…… I’d say Curry. But I will for sure respect an alternate opinion. Nice post!

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  • #1122921
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    CoachWyers
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     I would give slight edge to Dwayne Wade right now, but before careers over Steph will probably pass him.

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  • #1122922
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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     Steph Curry is like the modern day Jerry West. I put him over Wade, Iverson, and will soon be above Kobe.

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  • #1122924
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    halfdecayed
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     Wade was actually a really really good defensive player while Curry is bad to average. That 2006 run was something too, this got me to start watching and be passionate for Basketball back then.. I think Durant impacted Curry’s career significantly negatively IMO.. I know he got those rings, but Durant has been the best player and won those Finals MVPs.. Curry still didn’t get one.. If Wade didn’t get so many injuries it wouldn’t be a conversation IMO.. 

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  • #1122934
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    whiteflash
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     Not sure why people keep citing Wade’s ’06 Finals as some masterpiece. That series was clearly rigged. Dallas was stomping Miami and Wade was shooting poorly then he goes on to shoot 107 ft’s Over six games, a record by a WIDE margin. The NBA was trying to promote a Shaq/Wade combo and completely fuc#ed Dallas out of a ring. 

    Also, Curry took a team with backs end lottery picks, second rounders and rag tag role players to 4 straight Finals. Always like Wade’s game, but if we’re being completely objective Curry’s already had the superior career, and it’s not really that close.

     

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  • #1122935
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    whiteflash
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     Not sure why people keep citing Wade’s ’06 Finals as some masterpiece. That series was clearly rigged. Dallas was stomping Miami and Wade was shooting poorly then he goes on to shoot 107 ft’s Over six games, a record by a WIDE margin. The NBA was trying to promote a Shaq/Wade combo and completely fuc#ed Dallas out of a ring. 

    Also, Curry took a team with backs end lottery picks, second rounders and rag tag role players to 4 straight Finals. Always like Wade’s game, but if we’re being completely objective Curry’s already had the superior career, and it’s not really that close.

     

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    • #1122942
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       The narrative would look a lot different if in 2015 the Warriors didnt get an easy path to finals or if Cavs were healthy and beat them in finals. In 2016 they should have lost to Thunder. Then Durant doesnt come to GS and they maybe make one more finals appearance. OR if Durant comes and they roll everyone in 2017 and then lose to a healthy Rockets in 2018. If some of these 50/50 things happen to Curry and GS they would be looked at a lot different historically. 

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  • #1122938
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    halfdecayed
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     Curry took them to 4 straight finals ? Are you not mentionning Durant here for real ? Or Klay and Draymond for that matter ? Or Iggy you know a finals MVP? Rigged please .. The Warriors faced so many injured teams I can’t even count them anymore

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    • #1122940
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      whiteflash
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       I literally mentioned all of them. Reading comprehension is your friend. While we’re here, if the league wasn’t so dead set on giving LBJ a title the Warriors would have 4 straight wins. Curry being hurt, a bogus Green suspension, a freak Bogut injury and a bogus Curry ejection gave Cleveland the advantage. If literally any one of those things didn’t happen the Warriors are 4x consecutive champs. Curry should’ve/could’ve been FMVP for the 1st and last chip.

       

      Also, despite the fact that people claim Curry’s injury prone he only has two seasons playing less than 74 games. Wade has NINE.

       

       

       

       

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  • #1122948
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    bigfungotitdone5times
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     did i really just a read a top ten list of best 2 guards ever and saw manu ahead of jerry west. has someone been hangign out with b easy and this coming from a huge spurs fan

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  • #1122951
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     Very good question – both guys were drafted aged 21, both have won 3 titles and a couple of those have been with a top 2 NBA player as running mate. Curry certainly the better shooter, D-Wade the superior athlete at his peak. Curry 23.1ppg regular season against D-Wade 22.5ppg. One scoring title each So there is very little in it.

    D-Wade hit elite level quicker than Curry and Curry would need to double his All Star appearances and make another 3 All NBA Teams to equal what D-Wade has done.

    Curry has won two MVPs to D-Wade’s none.

    It is very close and I am fans of both guys but I think Curry will end up having a slight edge as he has virtually rewritten the 3 point scoring records and helped revolutionize the game. This takes nothing away from D-Wade who is a first ballot HOF and arguably the 3rd best SG ever after MJ and Kobe.

     

     

     

     

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