[CodySLCParticipant]

 Its the first match up of the year for the two. Deron has gotten the best of Paul so far in most of their match ups. With a record of 11-3 going into tonights game. Should be a good one since Chris Paul and his teammates are finally healthy.

Paul:
15.6 ppg, 8.9 apg, 3.2 rpg, 2.2 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.6 TOpg, 
41.2%FG, 21.2%3FG, 85.7%FT

Williams:
16.5 ppg, 8.4 apg, 3.1 rpg, 1.0 spg, 0.0 bpg, 2.8 TOpg,
55.2%FG, 44.7%3FG, 71.1%FT

http://dimemag.com/2010/11/whos-better-deron-williams-or-chris-paul/

[butidonthavemoney]

Utah’s been struggling at home.

Let’s see if they can turn it around.

[butidonthavemoney]

Utah’s been struggling at home.

Let’s see if they can turn it around.

[butidonthavemoney]

Utah’s been struggling at home.

Let’s see if they can turn it around.

[butidonthavemoney]

Earl Watson and Ronnie Price are the best point guards in the NBA.

[butidonthavemoney]

Earl Watson and Ronnie Price are the best point guards in the NBA.

[butidonthavemoney]

Earl Watson and Ronnie Price are the best point guards in the NBA.

[CodySLCParticipant]

lol i love Ronnie Price’s game. But seriously they bring a lot of energy and quickness with that 2 pg look of the bench.

[CodySLCParticipant]

lol i love Ronnie Price’s game. But seriously they bring a lot of energy and quickness with that 2 pg look of the bench.

[CodySLCParticipant]

lol i love Ronnie Price’s game. But seriously they bring a lot of energy and quickness with that 2 pg look of the bench.

[CodySLCParticipant]

Jazz won by 18. D-Will had 26points, 11 assists, and 5 steals. And went 4 for 5 from deep. Chris Paul had 17 and 9 with just 1 turnover and 5 steals. The Jazz bench chipped in 30 points.

[CodySLCParticipant]

Jazz won by 18. D-Will had 26points, 11 assists, and 5 steals. And went 4 for 5 from deep. Chris Paul had 17 and 9 with just 1 turnover and 5 steals. The Jazz bench chipped in 30 points.

[CodySLCParticipant]

Jazz won by 18. D-Will had 26points, 11 assists, and 5 steals. And went 4 for 5 from deep. Chris Paul had 17 and 9 with just 1 turnover and 5 steals. The Jazz bench chipped in 30 points.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill. While Cp3 is a great player. Dwill is clearly the better player. Today they went head to head, and Dwill had more points, assists, and shot better from 3-point land than Paul did. He also matched Paul in steals, so that should settle the debate even more (I think CP3 and his great hands is one of the main reasons why people put CP3 over Dwill even though they shouldn’t!!!) So this game should prove it to everyone who the better point guard is. Like I said before Dwill is clearly the better player! And this game proves it!

Fortunately this debate will probably never be settled but this stellar performance by Dwill will hopefully change some minds.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill. While Cp3 is a great player. Dwill is clearly the better player. Today they went head to head, and Dwill had more points, assists, and shot better from 3-point land than Paul did. He also matched Paul in steals, so that should settle the debate even more (I think CP3 and his great hands is one of the main reasons why people put CP3 over Dwill even though they shouldn’t!!!) So this game should prove it to everyone who the better point guard is. Like I said before Dwill is clearly the better player! And this game proves it!

Fortunately this debate will probably never be settled but this stellar performance by Dwill will hopefully change some minds.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill. While Cp3 is a great player. Dwill is clearly the better player. Today they went head to head, and Dwill had more points, assists, and shot better from 3-point land than Paul did. He also matched Paul in steals, so that should settle the debate even more (I think CP3 and his great hands is one of the main reasons why people put CP3 over Dwill even though they shouldn’t!!!) So this game should prove it to everyone who the better point guard is. Like I said before Dwill is clearly the better player! And this game proves it!

Fortunately this debate will probably never be settled but this stellar performance by Dwill will hopefully change some minds.

[SteroidParticipant]

Head to head doesn’t determine who is better overall although they are pretty close. It’s almost a toss up for me between the two. I’m sure people will say Chris Paul by default, but one can put up a good argument for D-Will.

[SteroidParticipant]

Head to head doesn’t determine who is better overall although they are pretty close. It’s almost a toss up for me between the two. I’m sure people will say Chris Paul by default, but one can put up a good argument for D-Will.

[SteroidParticipant]

Head to head doesn’t determine who is better overall although they are pretty close. It’s almost a toss up for me between the two. I’m sure people will say Chris Paul by default, but one can put up a good argument for D-Will.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I’m not quite sure that I like that mighty might lineup with Watson and Price playing the 2 guard spots and CJ at the 3 because it really eats into some time that Gordon Hayward could show us what he could bring to the table. Right now it looks like Hayward will just get minutes in blowout games at the very end, which unfortunately will not provide minutes for Hayward. Id like to see why the Jazz picked him so early. I originally thought that Hayward was picked way too early in the 2010 draft. And so far he has done nothing to show me why he was picked at 9 and not much later. Although I believe that sadly this is mostly because of a lack of playing time. I would really like to see the Jazz use a bench lineup of either Watson or Price at the point, CJ at the 2 and then use Hayward at the 3.  

Yes the mighty might lineup provides fast play and instant energy which is really important for games and bench play but I’d like to see Hayward get more minutes. What are your guys’ thoughts on this bench lineup?

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I’m not quite sure that I like that mighty might lineup with Watson and Price playing the 2 guard spots and CJ at the 3 because it really eats into some time that Gordon Hayward could show us what he could bring to the table. Right now it looks like Hayward will just get minutes in blowout games at the very end, which unfortunately will not provide minutes for Hayward. Id like to see why the Jazz picked him so early. I originally thought that Hayward was picked way too early in the 2010 draft. And so far he has done nothing to show me why he was picked at 9 and not much later. Although I believe that sadly this is mostly because of a lack of playing time. I would really like to see the Jazz use a bench lineup of either Watson or Price at the point, CJ at the 2 and then use Hayward at the 3.  

Yes the mighty might lineup provides fast play and instant energy which is really important for games and bench play but I’d like to see Hayward get more minutes. What are your guys’ thoughts on this bench lineup?

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I’m not quite sure that I like that mighty might lineup with Watson and Price playing the 2 guard spots and CJ at the 3 because it really eats into some time that Gordon Hayward could show us what he could bring to the table. Right now it looks like Hayward will just get minutes in blowout games at the very end, which unfortunately will not provide minutes for Hayward. Id like to see why the Jazz picked him so early. I originally thought that Hayward was picked way too early in the 2010 draft. And so far he has done nothing to show me why he was picked at 9 and not much later. Although I believe that sadly this is mostly because of a lack of playing time. I would really like to see the Jazz use a bench lineup of either Watson or Price at the point, CJ at the 2 and then use Hayward at the 3.  

Yes the mighty might lineup provides fast play and instant energy which is really important for games and bench play but I’d like to see Hayward get more minutes. What are your guys’ thoughts on this bench lineup?

[CodySLCParticipant]

If the lineup keeps working Salon will keep going to it. Gordon got more early minutes than expected and even started a game, but really hasnt been effective on offence and espacially not defecnce. 

[CodySLCParticipant]

If the lineup keeps working Salon will keep going to it. Gordon got more early minutes than expected and even started a game, but really hasnt been effective on offence and espacially not defecnce. 

[CodySLCParticipant]

If the lineup keeps working Salon will keep going to it. Gordon got more early minutes than expected and even started a game, but really hasnt been effective on offence and espacially not defecnce. 

[JNixonParticipant]

"Head to head doesn’t determine who is better overall although they are pretty close."

This is the only way Jazz fans can make an argument that Deron Williams is better. The only time Williams does play better is head-to-head. At the end of every season the only valid statement is Williams outplays Paul, so he’s automatically better. lol. Overlooking the fact that Paul has less talent every year and overachieves, generally puts up better overall stats and pretty much anything that points to why Chris Paul is better.

[JNixonParticipant]

"Head to head doesn’t determine who is better overall although they are pretty close."

This is the only way Jazz fans can make an argument that Deron Williams is better. The only time Williams does play better is head-to-head. At the end of every season the only valid statement is Williams outplays Paul, so he’s automatically better. lol. Overlooking the fact that Paul has less talent every year and overachieves, generally puts up better overall stats and pretty much anything that points to why Chris Paul is better.

[JNixonParticipant]

"Head to head doesn’t determine who is better overall although they are pretty close."

This is the only way Jazz fans can make an argument that Deron Williams is better. The only time Williams does play better is head-to-head. At the end of every season the only valid statement is Williams outplays Paul, so he’s automatically better. lol. Overlooking the fact that Paul has less talent every year and overachieves, generally puts up better overall stats and pretty much anything that points to why Chris Paul is better.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Yes thats true, CodySLC, you shouldn’t fix something that isn’t broken but I’m not saying the Jazz need to. All I’m saying is that the Jazz have so much potential with all these new additions (and this game proves it) that the Jazz could probably spare some few games that should be easy wins like maybe Cavs games or Raptors games, or Nets games, Clips games, or Wolves games or any other team that isn’t that good, and try playing Hayward off the bench more. Maybe Sloan should use Hayward in those type of games as a backup and give him more minutes. I would really like to see Hayward play more. Yes, you’re right he really has not done too well with the minutes he has been given so far (which may warrant reason that he doesn’t deserve more playing time, but come on give the kid a break, he’s only a rookie) We might lose some more games than necessary but if it happened because Hayward was given more playing time than usual then I think it might be worth it. And who knows we might still win those games because of excellent bench play by either Hayward himself or CJ, whom I am starting to really like. Sometimes I wish the Jazz would start him at the 2 over Bell. I’d really like to see what he can do as a starter. But I don’t think that Sloan will ever start Miles because he is too 3-point happy.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Yes thats true, CodySLC, you shouldn’t fix something that isn’t broken but I’m not saying the Jazz need to. All I’m saying is that the Jazz have so much potential with all these new additions (and this game proves it) that the Jazz could probably spare some few games that should be easy wins like maybe Cavs games or Raptors games, or Nets games, Clips games, or Wolves games or any other team that isn’t that good, and try playing Hayward off the bench more. Maybe Sloan should use Hayward in those type of games as a backup and give him more minutes. I would really like to see Hayward play more. Yes, you’re right he really has not done too well with the minutes he has been given so far (which may warrant reason that he doesn’t deserve more playing time, but come on give the kid a break, he’s only a rookie) We might lose some more games than necessary but if it happened because Hayward was given more playing time than usual then I think it might be worth it. And who knows we might still win those games because of excellent bench play by either Hayward himself or CJ, whom I am starting to really like. Sometimes I wish the Jazz would start him at the 2 over Bell. I’d really like to see what he can do as a starter. But I don’t think that Sloan will ever start Miles because he is too 3-point happy.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Yes thats true, CodySLC, you shouldn’t fix something that isn’t broken but I’m not saying the Jazz need to. All I’m saying is that the Jazz have so much potential with all these new additions (and this game proves it) that the Jazz could probably spare some few games that should be easy wins like maybe Cavs games or Raptors games, or Nets games, Clips games, or Wolves games or any other team that isn’t that good, and try playing Hayward off the bench more. Maybe Sloan should use Hayward in those type of games as a backup and give him more minutes. I would really like to see Hayward play more. Yes, you’re right he really has not done too well with the minutes he has been given so far (which may warrant reason that he doesn’t deserve more playing time, but come on give the kid a break, he’s only a rookie) We might lose some more games than necessary but if it happened because Hayward was given more playing time than usual then I think it might be worth it. And who knows we might still win those games because of excellent bench play by either Hayward himself or CJ, whom I am starting to really like. Sometimes I wish the Jazz would start him at the 2 over Bell. I’d really like to see what he can do as a starter. But I don’t think that Sloan will ever start Miles because he is too 3-point happy.

[NYK2010Participant]

You said it.

I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill. While Cp3 is a great player. Dwill is clearly the better player. Today they went head to head, and Dwill had more points, assists, and shot better from 3-point land than Paul did. He also matched Paul in steals, so that should settle the debate even more (I think CP3 and his great hands is one of the main reasons why people put CP3 over Dwill even though they shouldn’t!!!) So this game should prove it to everyone who the better point guard is. Like I said before Dwill is clearly the better player! And this game proves it!

Also Deron Williams is the best PG in the league too.

[NYK2010Participant]

You said it.

I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill. While Cp3 is a great player. Dwill is clearly the better player. Today they went head to head, and Dwill had more points, assists, and shot better from 3-point land than Paul did. He also matched Paul in steals, so that should settle the debate even more (I think CP3 and his great hands is one of the main reasons why people put CP3 over Dwill even though they shouldn’t!!!) So this game should prove it to everyone who the better point guard is. Like I said before Dwill is clearly the better player! And this game proves it!

Also Deron Williams is the best PG in the league too.

[NYK2010Participant]

You said it.

I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill. While Cp3 is a great player. Dwill is clearly the better player. Today they went head to head, and Dwill had more points, assists, and shot better from 3-point land than Paul did. He also matched Paul in steals, so that should settle the debate even more (I think CP3 and his great hands is one of the main reasons why people put CP3 over Dwill even though they shouldn’t!!!) So this game should prove it to everyone who the better point guard is. Like I said before Dwill is clearly the better player! And this game proves it!

Also Deron Williams is the best PG in the league too.

[butidonthavemoney]

"I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill."

Nonsense.

"I’m not quite sure that I like that mighty might lineup with Watson and Price playing the 2 guard spots and CJ at the 3 because it really eats into some time that Gordon Hayward could show us what he could bring to the table."

UBER NONSENSE!

[butidonthavemoney]

"I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill."

Nonsense.

"I’m not quite sure that I like that mighty might lineup with Watson and Price playing the 2 guard spots and CJ at the 3 because it really eats into some time that Gordon Hayward could show us what he could bring to the table."

UBER NONSENSE!

[butidonthavemoney]

"I hope this game settles the on going argument between CP3 and Dwill."

Nonsense.

"I’m not quite sure that I like that mighty might lineup with Watson and Price playing the 2 guard spots and CJ at the 3 because it really eats into some time that Gordon Hayward could show us what he could bring to the table."

UBER NONSENSE!

[butidonthavemoney]

Deron Williams is bigger (around two inches), stronger (duh), plays better within a system (Williams sets better screens), moves better without the ball (cuts better), has a better midrange game (one of the best in the NBA), is better at drawing contact (shoots significantly more free-throws per game), is more clutch (see playoff performance, already has two game-winners this season), smashes Paul’s face in whenever the two play each other (no note needed) and has more of a winner’s mentality (has NEVER played on a losing team from High School to now).

That’s just the obvious stuff.

If you can make an argument that Paul is clearly the better passer, ball-handler, defender, shooter or scorer then I’d like to see it.

"This is the only way Jazz fans can make an argument that Deron Williams is better."

Come on. You really believe that Chris Paul obviously better, and everyone who thinks Williams is better is biased?

[butidonthavemoney]

Deron Williams is bigger (around two inches), stronger (duh), plays better within a system (Williams sets better screens), moves better without the ball (cuts better), has a better midrange game (one of the best in the NBA), is better at drawing contact (shoots significantly more free-throws per game), is more clutch (see playoff performance, already has two game-winners this season), smashes Paul’s face in whenever the two play each other (no note needed) and has more of a winner’s mentality (has NEVER played on a losing team from High School to now).

That’s just the obvious stuff.

If you can make an argument that Paul is clearly the better passer, ball-handler, defender, shooter or scorer then I’d like to see it.

"This is the only way Jazz fans can make an argument that Deron Williams is better."

Come on. You really believe that Chris Paul obviously better, and everyone who thinks Williams is better is biased?

[butidonthavemoney]

Deron Williams is bigger (around two inches), stronger (duh), plays better within a system (Williams sets better screens), moves better without the ball (cuts better), has a better midrange game (one of the best in the NBA), is better at drawing contact (shoots significantly more free-throws per game), is more clutch (see playoff performance, already has two game-winners this season), smashes Paul’s face in whenever the two play each other (no note needed) and has more of a winner’s mentality (has NEVER played on a losing team from High School to now).

That’s just the obvious stuff.

If you can make an argument that Paul is clearly the better passer, ball-handler, defender, shooter or scorer then I’d like to see it.

"This is the only way Jazz fans can make an argument that Deron Williams is better."

Come on. You really believe that Chris Paul obviously better, and everyone who thinks Williams is better is biased?

[JNixonParticipant]

Deron Williams is bigger. Everything else meaningful, Chris Paul is better at. He shoots better from the field, is quicker, is more charismatic and vocal as a leader, averages more assists and substantially less turnovers, gets you 3 steals a night (which is ridiculous), and is more efficient as a 3 point shooter. Chris Paul also is more likely to dominate a game from start to finish than any other PG out there.

How can someone that averages more assists and less turnovers than someone be a worse playmaker? Chris Paul is clearly a better passer/playmaker than Deron Williams is.

Paul has better shot selection than Williams does. More efficient.

Paul has shown he can score not only just as much as Williams is score right now, but MORE. And he has done it shooting more than 5% better from the floor. And he’s scored that much and been more of a caretaker and assistman than Williams been. That has to count for alot.

Both are only decent overall defenders, with Williams being able to defend more PG’s at his size, but Paul’s steals numbers are ridiculous and he’s shown the ability to play outstanding on-ball D on multiple occasions despite his offensive responsibilities. Paul also rebounds better, for what it’s worth.

On top of being more prolific in terms of production, Paul has shown more floor leadership skills than Williams and has had much worse teams than Williams, yet no one can ever say that Paul has underachieved or failed, The opposite can only be said. So head-to-head matchups are irrelevant to me, Paul consistently is better in his production and impact on the team. There is more than just 1 team in the NBA.

[JNixonParticipant]

Deron Williams is bigger. Everything else meaningful, Chris Paul is better at. He shoots better from the field, is quicker, is more charismatic and vocal as a leader, averages more assists and substantially less turnovers, gets you 3 steals a night (which is ridiculous), and is more efficient as a 3 point shooter. Chris Paul also is more likely to dominate a game from start to finish than any other PG out there.

How can someone that averages more assists and less turnovers than someone be a worse playmaker? Chris Paul is clearly a better passer/playmaker than Deron Williams is.

Paul has better shot selection than Williams does. More efficient.

Paul has shown he can score not only just as much as Williams is score right now, but MORE. And he has done it shooting more than 5% better from the floor. And he’s scored that much and been more of a caretaker and assistman than Williams been. That has to count for alot.

Both are only decent overall defenders, with Williams being able to defend more PG’s at his size, but Paul’s steals numbers are ridiculous and he’s shown the ability to play outstanding on-ball D on multiple occasions despite his offensive responsibilities. Paul also rebounds better, for what it’s worth.

On top of being more prolific in terms of production, Paul has shown more floor leadership skills than Williams and has had much worse teams than Williams, yet no one can ever say that Paul has underachieved or failed, The opposite can only be said. So head-to-head matchups are irrelevant to me, Paul consistently is better in his production and impact on the team. There is more than just 1 team in the NBA.

[JNixonParticipant]

Deron Williams is bigger. Everything else meaningful, Chris Paul is better at. He shoots better from the field, is quicker, is more charismatic and vocal as a leader, averages more assists and substantially less turnovers, gets you 3 steals a night (which is ridiculous), and is more efficient as a 3 point shooter. Chris Paul also is more likely to dominate a game from start to finish than any other PG out there.

How can someone that averages more assists and less turnovers than someone be a worse playmaker? Chris Paul is clearly a better passer/playmaker than Deron Williams is.

Paul has better shot selection than Williams does. More efficient.

Paul has shown he can score not only just as much as Williams is score right now, but MORE. And he has done it shooting more than 5% better from the floor. And he’s scored that much and been more of a caretaker and assistman than Williams been. That has to count for alot.

Both are only decent overall defenders, with Williams being able to defend more PG’s at his size, but Paul’s steals numbers are ridiculous and he’s shown the ability to play outstanding on-ball D on multiple occasions despite his offensive responsibilities. Paul also rebounds better, for what it’s worth.

On top of being more prolific in terms of production, Paul has shown more floor leadership skills than Williams and has had much worse teams than Williams, yet no one can ever say that Paul has underachieved or failed, The opposite can only be said. So head-to-head matchups are irrelevant to me, Paul consistently is better in his production and impact on the team. There is more than just 1 team in the NBA.

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