[CavFanPRParticipant]

 Just wanted to share my opinion regarding the trade deadline.

1. The Phoenix Suns absolutely dropped the ball. Signing Isaiah Thomas was a mistake, but he still had plenty of trade value and they could’ve made up for it. They had enough time throuhout the season to realize that Thomas wasn’t a good fit and work out and trade but instead, they waited and they didn’t capitalize.

They had enough assets to pull off a trade for a guy like Carmelo; I’m sure a package of Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, T.J. Warren, Miles Plumlee plus future firsts would’ve gotten the attention of the Knicks management. Not saying it was gonna happen but you always wanna flip assets to make upgrades not downgrades like they did. Oh well, too late for that. They still have a formidable roster but these moves could potentially cost them that 8th seed.

2. Sam Presti keeps doing his thing. He will forever get criticized for trading James Harden, but he is still the best gm in the league. Flipping Reggie Jackson for D.J. Augustin and Enes Kanter was great. They needed a post presence, they got a quality one without having to give away much and they replaced Jackson with a guy who can bring similar production with an extra year on his contract. Kanter will easily take over the starting role over Adams and will finally show what he can do on a team with playoff aspirations. Almost forgot about Singler, he’s a really good backup and upgrade over the other back up SF’s they have.

3. Miami landed what looks like the best point guard they’ve had since… Jason Williams? I can’t remember the last time Miami had an all star caliber point guard. I won’t write much about this trade other than they clearly got better and didn’t give up and meaningful pieces. Zoran will impress when he gets the chance.

4. I am super impressed with the Milwaukee Bucks management. They have finally turned it around, what a fantastic trade for them, clearly won the trade deadline. Michael Carter Williams, Tyler Ennis and Plumlee will elevate this team as contenders in the east. MCW had been struggling but under the tutelage of Kidd, he will shine. Plumlee replaces Sanders and Ennis finally gets a chance to show what he can do.

5. Philadelphia… I’m torn to be honest. The Lakers pick could turn out to be a great asset but at one point they need to start capitalizing on all the draft picks. Who are they targetting? I doubt it’s Mudiay. Can’t wait to see what Hinkie has up his sleeve.

 

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Yeah why would the Suns trade their young talent, Dragic, and future first round picks for a 30 year old with a bad knee, huge contract, takes too many shots and on the downside of his career? 

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

Exactly!

But even if they wanted to Carmelo Anthony has a no trade clause.

 

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

Exactly!

But even if they wanted to Carmelo Anthony has a no trade clause.

 

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Yeah why would the Suns trade their young talent, Dragic, and future first round picks for a 30 year old with a bad knee, huge contract, takes too many shots and on the downside of his career? 

[trelos6Participant]

I think losing Knight is big, but they are banking that MCW will evolve and also Jabari and Giannis will be 1 and 1A in a few years. 

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 It hurts them in the short run, but they have a 7.5 game lead over Miami and Charlotte for the 6th seed, so they have a fairly wide margin for error.  Plus, their defense is so good they should still win a fair amount.  Knight had pretty terrible on/off splits this season, which is mostly due to the Bucks’ stacked bench and poor starting lineup at the start of the season, but it does mean he wasn’t really carrying the team.  The team’s depth and defense were more important than any individual player.

Plus, the newcomers are players who fit well with what Kidd wants.  Kidd clearly likes big distributing PGs, as his good use of Livingston and aquisition of Marshall, Ennis, and MCW this season.  And Kidd has had great success turning Mason Plumlee and John Henson into excellent roll men, so hopefully Miles Plumlee is used well. 

[phila9012Participant]

 I don’t think it was that smart. Knight can play off the ball and as Jabari and giannias develop they are going to dominate the ball more and more. Knight would only become more deadly as they developed. Both Knight and MCW are the same age. Where as MCWs best skill is making plays for his teammates and he can’t shoot at all. It messes up their spacing now. I think this was high risk with only a small reward. It is one thing if they traded knight for mudiay, but knight for MCW isn’t worth it.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Or will be next season.  So this isn’t really Knight for MCW.  It is Knight for MCW, Ennis, Plumlee, an easier time keeping Khris Middleton (who is a better player than Knight) and a well paid FA.  

The team gets a little worse in the short run, but not long run.  Jabari has shown no indication of being a ball-dominant player, being more reliant on being assisted than any player in the league, and Giannis is a little more ball dominant but he is getting better off the ball.  

Jabari is showing a lot of potential in the PnR and the post.  He catches in the middle of the floor off the PnR and gets low catches down low.  He may be used more similarly to how Blake Griffin is used in his prime than to how Melo is used.

And MCW is much better at finding shooters and pushing in transition, which should help spacing.  And this doesn’t even bring us to defense, which MCW is much better than Knight at.  And I think that, while Knight is actually younger, MCW definitely has more room to improve, as Knight has already done a great job maximizing his skills, while MCW has a lot of room to improve as a shooter.  

MCW makes the team worse in the short run, but Kidd and the Bucks’ coaching staff seems really, really good at player development, so the team should have some hope for MCW to get better now that he has left Philly.

 

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Or will be next season.  So this isn’t really Knight for MCW.  It is Knight for MCW, Ennis, Plumlee, an easier time keeping Khris Middleton (who is a better player than Knight) and a well paid FA.  

The team gets a little worse in the short run, but not long run.  Jabari has shown no indication of being a ball-dominant player, being more reliant on being assisted than any player in the league, and Giannis is a little more ball dominant but he is getting better off the ball.  

Jabari is showing a lot of potential in the PnR and the post.  He catches in the middle of the floor off the PnR and gets low catches down low.  He may be used more similarly to how Blake Griffin is used in his prime than to how Melo is used.

And MCW is much better at finding shooters and pushing in transition, which should help spacing.  And this doesn’t even bring us to defense, which MCW is much better than Knight at.  And I think that, while Knight is actually younger, MCW definitely has more room to improve, as Knight has already done a great job maximizing his skills, while MCW has a lot of room to improve as a shooter.  

MCW makes the team worse in the short run, but Kidd and the Bucks’ coaching staff seems really, really good at player development, so the team should have some hope for MCW to get better now that he has left Philly.

 

[phila9012Participant]

 I don’t think it was that smart. Knight can play off the ball and as Jabari and giannias develop they are going to dominate the ball more and more. Knight would only become more deadly as they developed. Both Knight and MCW are the same age. Where as MCWs best skill is making plays for his teammates and he can’t shoot at all. It messes up their spacing now. I think this was high risk with only a small reward. It is one thing if they traded knight for mudiay, but knight for MCW isn’t worth it.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 It hurts them in the short run, but they have a 7.5 game lead over Miami and Charlotte for the 6th seed, so they have a fairly wide margin for error.  Plus, their defense is so good they should still win a fair amount.  Knight had pretty terrible on/off splits this season, which is mostly due to the Bucks’ stacked bench and poor starting lineup at the start of the season, but it does mean he wasn’t really carrying the team.  The team’s depth and defense were more important than any individual player.

Plus, the newcomers are players who fit well with what Kidd wants.  Kidd clearly likes big distributing PGs, as his good use of Livingston and aquisition of Marshall, Ennis, and MCW this season.  And Kidd has had great success turning Mason Plumlee and John Henson into excellent roll men, so hopefully Miles Plumlee is used well. 

[trelos6Participant]

I think losing Knight is big, but they are banking that MCW will evolve and also Jabari and Giannis will be 1 and 1A in a few years. 

[4th quarterParticipant]

 Man I negged u for forgetting poppa Tim Hardaway he was an all star…. I wanted to neg u again for saying they couldve got  Melo………………..

[4th quarterParticipant]

 Man I negged u for forgetting poppa Tim Hardaway he was an all star…. I wanted to neg u again for saying they couldve got  Melo………………..

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I agree with damn near everything you said but really, who in the hell would want Melo?? And RC Buford is unquestionably the best GM in the NBA.  He just went to back to back championships with one lottery pick on his team (take some &$#%#&@! notes Stinkie).  But the 2nd best GM is up for debate and Presti is in the conversation.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I agree with damn near everything you said but really, who in the hell would want Melo?? And RC Buford is unquestionably the best GM in the NBA.  He just went to back to back championships with one lottery pick on his team (take some &$#%#&@! notes Stinkie).  But the 2nd best GM is up for debate and Presti is in the conversation.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Brooklyn was a No-call/No-show!

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Brooklyn was a No-call/No-show!

[King CaluchaParticipant]

"Sam Presti keeps doing his thing. He will forever get criticized for trading James Harden, but he is still the best gm in the league"

Ujiri takes the prize in my book. And it’s not even close.

 

 

[220Participant]

Until another team manages to dominate and be in championship contention for two decades, I’d have to say R.C. Buford of the Spurs is the leagues best GM.

[220Participant]

Until another team manages to dominate and be in championship contention for two decades, I’d have to say R.C. Buford of the Spurs is the leagues best GM.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

"Sam Presti keeps doing his thing. He will forever get criticized for trading James Harden, but he is still the best gm in the league"

Ujiri takes the prize in my book. And it’s not even close.

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 I’d still agree Ric Burford and Coach Poppovich are the best talent accessors in the league. Daryl Morey has always been seen as a bright GM, Sam Presti likewise, the Harden trade still is what people remember about him though they did get Steve Adams out of it.

I remember when Kevin Pritchard used to get a lot of love and if he had taken Durant over Oden would have been regarded as a genius.

The Suns have moved out a fair few players they drafted in the late lottery in recent years but they have made some very good FA moves.

Danny Ainge wasn’t seen as a great GM at Boston until he put the big 3 together but we have yet to see how he can rebuild a team via the draft.

Rod Hennigan got a lot of stick for the D12/Iggy/Bynum trade but he Magic became the possble long term winners out of that.

Danny Ferry at Atlanta seems to go about his job quitely but has made a few nice moves to get the Hawks back into genuine contention.

With all the trade moves going down, it was interesting to note that the Spurs only made the very minor move of extending Reggie Williams until the end of the season. The Spurs always seem to make very few trades but base their success on canny FA signings and astute draft picks in the lower first round. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 I’d still agree Ric Burford and Coach Poppovich are the best talent accessors in the league. Daryl Morey has always been seen as a bright GM, Sam Presti likewise, the Harden trade still is what people remember about him though they did get Steve Adams out of it.

I remember when Kevin Pritchard used to get a lot of love and if he had taken Durant over Oden would have been regarded as a genius.

The Suns have moved out a fair few players they drafted in the late lottery in recent years but they have made some very good FA moves.

Danny Ainge wasn’t seen as a great GM at Boston until he put the big 3 together but we have yet to see how he can rebuild a team via the draft.

Rod Hennigan got a lot of stick for the D12/Iggy/Bynum trade but he Magic became the possble long term winners out of that.

Danny Ferry at Atlanta seems to go about his job quitely but has made a few nice moves to get the Hawks back into genuine contention.

With all the trade moves going down, it was interesting to note that the Spurs only made the very minor move of extending Reggie Williams until the end of the season. The Spurs always seem to make very few trades but base their success on canny FA signings and astute draft picks in the lower first round. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

I don’t think Danny Ferry goes about his job quietly…. "He’s got some African in him" lol

[Magic JordanParticipant]

I don’t think Danny Ferry goes about his job quietly…. "He’s got some African in him" lol

[trombonematrix43Participant]

 Looking forward to what Hinkie will do as well. The next two drafts will clearly determine the face of the team and set the core of what the rebuild will be. What pieces will be put around Embiid, Noel, and Saric? So many variables with the draft picks they have pending on protected picks and teams etc…its just interesting to see what they end up with in terms of what picks come to fruition let alone the players they draft. 

[trombonematrix43Participant]

 Looking forward to what Hinkie will do as well. The next two drafts will clearly determine the face of the team and set the core of what the rebuild will be. What pieces will be put around Embiid, Noel, and Saric? So many variables with the draft picks they have pending on protected picks and teams etc…its just interesting to see what they end up with in terms of what picks come to fruition let alone the players they draft. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Until we can see all the 76ers pieces on court we cannot judge what Hinkie is doing. Noel has only played half a season, Embiid has yet to play an NBA game, Saric is in Europe. 

Their draft plan this year will hugely depend what picks come over and what lottery luck they get.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Until we can see all the 76ers pieces on court we cannot judge what Hinkie is doing. Noel has only played half a season, Embiid has yet to play an NBA game, Saric is in Europe. 

Their draft plan this year will hugely depend what picks come over and what lottery luck they get.

 

[HadzialijagicParticipant]

I think OKCs value they received In the deal is getting overrated a lot. Enes Kanter is solid but he is a below average defensive player and he is due for a new contract very soon. As a pistons fan Kyle Singler and DJ Augustin are both very mediocre. DJ Augustin is a player that doesn’t perform well as a backup. I don’t know what it is but he is significantly more efficient when running as a starting point guard as opposed to a backup look at his stats as a starter over his career. Singler is also extremely mediocre. Augustin will be exposed as a product of stan van Gundys system  and will show why hes been a journeymen his entire career.

[HadzialijagicParticipant]

I think OKCs value they received In the deal is getting overrated a lot. Enes Kanter is solid but he is a below average defensive player and he is due for a new contract very soon. As a pistons fan Kyle Singler and DJ Augustin are both very mediocre. DJ Augustin is a player that doesn’t perform well as a backup. I don’t know what it is but he is significantly more efficient when running as a starting point guard as opposed to a backup look at his stats as a starter over his career. Singler is also extremely mediocre. Augustin will be exposed as a product of stan van Gundys system  and will show why hes been a journeymen his entire career.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Anyone know what the protection is on the pick Denver sent to Philly to get them to take JaVale McGee as McGee is owed $12million next year and Denver got a pick for trading Affalo and had picked up two first rounders for Mosgov earlier in the season.

So I would assume that Hinkie would look to drive a hard bargain although McGee’s salary would lesten the difference Philly have to pay to the NBA for being below cap minimu and what they are due to pay him would be less than his salary against the cap so reduce the payment that way.

Philly could well end up with 4 first rounders this year if all the picks came to fruition, so Hinkiecoud be very busy on draft night as he aready has at least 5 second rounders including two in the 31-35 range which will be attractive trade pieces to many teams. 

   

[HitsterParticipant]

 Anyone know what the protection is on the pick Denver sent to Philly to get them to take JaVale McGee as McGee is owed $12million next year and Denver got a pick for trading Affalo and had picked up two first rounders for Mosgov earlier in the season.

So I would assume that Hinkie would look to drive a hard bargain although McGee’s salary would lesten the difference Philly have to pay to the NBA for being below cap minimu and what they are due to pay him would be less than his salary against the cap so reduce the payment that way.

Philly could well end up with 4 first rounders this year if all the picks came to fruition, so Hinkiecoud be very busy on draft night as he aready has at least 5 second rounders including two in the 31-35 range which will be attractive trade pieces to many teams. 

   

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