[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/13659617/new-hornets-brass-already-facing-crisis-with-paul?tag=headlines;other

Chris Paul is liking the Lakers among 2 other teams.

I would hope it’s the Knicks. If I was Donnie Walsh, I would offer Danillo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and picks for him RIGHT NOW.

[Stojakovicfor3Participant]

Knicks would have to get rid of Felton and Gallinari.

[butidonthavemoney]

I think you are confusing the Knicks with a team that actually has draft picks.

Anyway, I don’t buy it. No way they trade Chris Paul.

[stanford hoops]

Mmmm. Would I rather play for the lakers or knicks. Tough choice.

Just yesterday he was saying he’s now happy with the direction N.O is going in

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

The Knicks have 1st round picks.

I think it’s becoming a possibility now. CP3 is a superstar. If the team is not contend on winning a title- He wants a trade. If New Orleans decided they couldn’t win- Why not move him for players and picks?

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

I’m not saying Knicks over Lakers. I’m saying if CP3 had NY on his list of teams he would like to be traded to…make the deal now.

[stanford hoops]

Ot going anywhere. They aren’t tryna lose fan money just to appease other team fans. Would be a bad business move unless they got back a superstar. Even more so since he’s not a free agent next year

[dipt1982Participant]

I wonder what kind of deal would have to be done for the Lakers to grab Paul…it’s far fetched, but anything’s possible, I don’t see a championship coming for the Hornets anytime soon, so I’m sure he would love to get to a place where he could get one sometime soon.

The Magic would make more sense for him in terms of trade value coming back to N.O. Not quite sure the Lakers would be willing to part with much of what the Hornets would want in return. Interesting talk at least…but that’s all I really see it as, talk…

[llperez]

hornets are not in a tough spot to trade him until next year. but if he really wants out, might as well get what they can for him now. But its gonna have to be something special. Not just picks 5 years down the road that will be in the 20’s anyways.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

I don’t understand what people think when they say ” He’s too much of the Franchise”

You know what, build around what you have already on the roster and the pieces you get back for Paul. If Chris Paul wants a trade- I say trade him, don’t keep him on the roster just because he’s a market piece. Teams like Portland, Orlando, New York, Indiana, Both LA teams and Houston have pieces to restart the build of the Hornets.

Plus, Darren Collison isin’t a slouch. I think he could earn NO fans respect with his play. HE IS NOT CHRIS PAUL but he was good when he played.

[stanford hoops]

And so far he doesn’t really want out yet

[stanford hoops]

Because you’re not looking at it from
a business stand point. That’s how owners look st it. Trade Paul and u lose millions. Less fans. Less jersey sales. No one likes losing money. Most owners rather make money than win. To some it’s not all about winning. And I can’t blame them

[stanford hoops]

It’s not that simple. Two players cann average the same stats but one can be more popular and make much more money for a team because if there name

[dwat4444Participant]

Paul for Odom, S Brown, and Caracter? I realy don’t see it happening but if it did…the lakers would be unbeatable. They’d have the best player in the league, arguably, at 3 positions. Pat Riley would just shake his head.

[stanford hoops]

Unlike other teams we don’t need Paul. Would be nice but we are already the best. Eventually we will get another star to go with out rising star in bynum. Like always

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Here’s a trade idea

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=24xrvqo

The Hornets get a couple expiring contracts, 3 1st round picks ( from Denver and 2 from New York), Danillo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler. This gives them multiple draft picks in upcoming seasons and cap space in 2011/2012 to built around Gallo-Collison-Thornton.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28cu6xo

The Hornets get 4 players to rebuild this roster. Derrick Favors is a excellent get back in the deal. Harris, Charlie V and Prince are good for a season. If they lose, you get a lotto pick and can let Prince go. New Jersey gets a superstar PG. Detroit gets another post player for the team and Courtney Lee who could also be moved again.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2fnykc9

The Laker deal. I think the Lakers would have to throw back 2 1st round picks back to even it out but both sides seem to benefit in this deal IMO.

[dipt1982Participant]

Damn stanford, I didn’t know you were on the lakers roster, lol, j/k. And one more thing, the best shouldn’t settle, you can always be better. If the opportunity was seriously there for Paul, I would love to see L.A. grab him…but as I said earlier in this thread, it’s all talk, just a pipe dream at this point…

[Imaking6004Participant]

If Chris Paul goes to the lakers then the NBA will be just like the MLB. Too many star players on a team.

[stanford hoops]

Yea in life you’re right. Not the same in sports. Sometimes staying put with ur roster or making lil Tweens are much better then big changes. Why do u think OKC did try to make a big splash even though they had the money to?

[stanford hoops]

Yea and complaining fans would still watch the games

[buckeyefanParticipant]

Man if I’m a team looking to get a pg I would be going after Darren Collison. You can’t have him and Paul playing at the same time and plus he would be easier to get.

[llperez]

i would love paul to join the lakers, but im curious for who. I value bynum and the defense, length and potential he brings to the table more then most. The big advantage the lakers have on everybody is their length and im not sure paul, as great as he is, would bring as much to the table in the triangle as he does for just about any other team. Not saying i wouldnt trade bynum or odom, but i would think long and hard about it.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

With the Lakers, I would almost have to believe a 3rd team will be involved to move either West or Okafor.

[stanford hoops]

Anyone but bynum Kobe and gasol. I’d have to thunk about odom because our length is our strength

[SteroidParticipant]

Chris Paul would make Dwight Howard soooo much better. I would love to see this happen for Orlando. Granted, Dwight has a long way to go with his footwork and low post moves, but Chris Paul would actually get the ball in Dwight’s hands whereas he has no legit playmaker right now. Orlando should really be pushing this.

[JNixonParticipant]

Yeah the Magic would be extremely legit with Chris Paul, I agree. Jameer Nelson limits them at the crucial points of their season because his height limits his effectiveness as a playmaker for others.

[dipt1982Participant]

Jameer Nelson is a stud PG, but he lacks that play-making ability to make others around him better. He has a really solid jumper, nice strength against other PG’s on the defensive side, and he’s not afraid to take big shots. Paul would just bring that little bit of on court vision that Nelson seems to lack, and he would notice Dwight being taken out of games and find ways to help him be effective, whether it be on lob passes or or open looks by drawing defenders out of the paint.

Orlando would make the most sense in this situation, it would greatly increase their chances in the East next season…

[dipt1982Participant]

stanford, are you a towel boy for the Lakers? Because “their” length is “their” strength, not “ours”. But as you stated recently, the “new Pippen” (Ebanks) would fill in Odom’s spot nicely…LOL

Haha, you negged me for that, classic!

[NYK2010Participant]

Knicks don’t have their own 1st the next 2 yrs but what do the Lakers have to give the Hornets?
NY has a better shot with guys like Felton, Douglas, Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Walker
Lakers only expiring is Vujacic. Odom is a possibility but he’s not a young guy.
Orlando foolishly gave Duhon money and the Knicks might’ve done the same with Felton.
Still does he have a trade clause where he can say where he wants to go?

The trade machine trade with the Knicks is a joke they’ll lose Gallo, Chandler, 2 picks and Bill Walker.
Basically they’ll have 3 Pg’s, no SG, SF and a bunch of bigs than.

The Lakers deal is even dumber y would u give up Odom and Bynum for Wright, Paul and Posey.
They have Artest and Walton at SF, who would be the big men for L.A. outside of Gasol.

The 3 way trade makes a lot more sense the Hornets get a nice Pg in Harris and Prince’s expiring.
Nets get a star in Paul and Pistons get a legit big man in West.

[NYK2010Participant]

If Hornets could get top picks, expirings and make the other team take back Okafor or Posey you have to do it. They’ll be losing a lot of money this year anyway becaz the payroll is at almost 70 mill but next summer they’d have a ton of cap room and picks too.

[stanford hoops]

Fans say we when talking about there team. U must be new to sports. As far as ebanks I already addressed that the other day. Ur a lil behind everyone else on that one. Lol. It’s cool cuz now you’re caught up with the rest of the group

Paul
with the magic would be very dangerous

And how come only knicks fans think there players are more tradeable then they are. News flash to knicks fans. Other teams don’t think the players u wanna tradeare as hood as y’all do

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

And how come only knicks fans think there players are more tradeable then they are. News flash to knicks fans. Other teams don’t think the players u wanna tradeare as hood as y’all do

Come on now, no need to take shots. I didn’t overvalue NY’s players. The Knicks would have the most to get Paul anyway. Gallo is a good scorer, Chandler is a decent 2 man not great but could be a solid 6th man IMO. If I was really overvaluing, I would have said Gallo-Paul straight up.

[SlimParticipant]

Gallo is a keeper unless Melo goes to NY

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

If the Knicks get Chris Paul…I highly doubt Carmelo signs that extension then.

[dipt1982Participant]

Most fans say the teams name, unless you’re 12, which is understandable. Wow buddy, your getting all defensive like I just kicked your dog, calm down. And the Ebanks thing was a joke, I already read the other thread smart guy…

And KnickBoy, Gallo is a very good player, he might not be a superstar, but other teams would definitely want his services. Wilson Chandler is a solid player too, very tradeable. Some people can’t see that though, obviously.

[stanford hoops]

UlsPaula not getting traded unless he makes it public that he wants to be traded and even then he prob won’t. His team is in the drivers seat

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

But by saying

” I want a trade if the team is not looking to win” is not a way of asking out?

Let me ask you Stanford, have the Hornets made ANY moves that said to you ” Damn, there in it to win it” or “Wow, they wanna win it all this season”

[llperez]

i think the chandler okafor trade was a clear sign they were trying to win. Okafor had like 3 more years on his deal, but since tyson was injured they moved him for a player they thought could help win games despite the longer contract. (although they probably wished they didnt)

[stanford hoops]

Not defensive and I don’t know where u go watch games but every sports bar I’ve been to people say we when talking bout there teams. I knowany cowboy fans who do it and even celebs. Spike lee says it often as well as Chris rock and Ashley Judd when talking bout Kentucky basketball and I’m guessing they are older then 12

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

I don’t think so. I think that was a deal to save a couple bucks ( Okafor’s deal was lesser then Chandler’s deal at the time)

My point is- The Hornets didn’t make one move to say ” Wow, they are trying to stay firm in the West race” in my eyes in the past year.

[JNixonParticipant]

“Most fans say the teams name, unless you’re 12, which is understandable.”

Speak for yourself on that one buddy. I don’t know anyone that doesn’t do that. Unless you don’t have a true team like that

[stanford hoops]

He also said the other day that he’s happy with. The direction that the team is going in. You don’t realize that he’s not gonna get traded just because he wants to. It’s not up to him. The team holds all the cards. And we know he’s not gonna just sit out till he’s traded. Basically everything we ate talking about is just what some want to happen but isn’t even close to happening

[llperez]

hornets are strapped financially. CP3 doesnt go down, they make the playoffs. I think they are waiting on peja’s deal to expire so they can add somebody. They just shipped Mo pete out too. THey are in a solid spot to bring talent in over the next year or two.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

That’s true but I haven’t seen NO use the MLE on anyone. I don’t see ( nor hear) any agressiveness coming from New Orleans.

[llperez]

You think they traded chandler and his 2 years remaing for okafor and his 5 years remaining to save money? The difference in yearly salary was like 1-2 million dollars which they could have saved in many different ways, but taking on a long term deal for an expiring in no way says it was made to save money.

[stanford hoops]

I also say we when talking bout redskins and at games there are thousands of skins fans that say it as well.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

I cannot think of one player who demanded a trade and didn’t get thier wish at some point.

Also http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68279/20100721/report_paul_has_demanded_trade_to_knicks_magic_lakers/

According to a source with knowledge of his plan, Chris Paul has requested that the Hornets trade him to the Knicks, Magic or Lakers before the season begins.

“He wants out,” the source told Ken Berger of CBS Sports. “He wants to play with another superstar. He wants to follow LeBron’s model of teaming up with other great players.”

NBA sources say that members of Paul’s camp told them recently, “He’s not going to start the season in New Orleans.”

The Hornets will try to persuade Paul to remain based on the team’s new direction.

“Paul won’t go public with his trade request — if he did, he’d be subject to a fine under NBA rules — but those with knowledge of his plans believe his desire to pair up with another superstar (or two) has gained too much momentum to stop,” writes Berger.

The Knicks are preparing to make an attractive offer to acquire a superstar talent via trade.

“According to sources familiar with the Knicks’ strategy,” writes Berger, “part of the reason for orchestrating the sign-and-trade for David Lee — which yielded young talents Anthony Randolph and Kelenna Azubuike from Golden State — was to stock the roster with attractive assets that could be used to acquire such marquee players if the opportunities presented themselves.”

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68279/20100721/report_paul_has_demanded_trade_to_knicks_magic_lakers/#ixzz0uND83aRl

[llperez]

i try not to say we in public when talking about my teams, but in private, but you better bet your a.ss "we" did it every time the lakers win.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

I used to say “we” but then I realized that It’s easier to say the team or they did.

[JNixonParticipant]

LOL, it’s just a habit for me. I would have to make a hard effort to stop saying it

[MagikKnickParticipant]

Theres nothing wrong at all about saying “we” when it comes to sports. You may not hit any homeruns, get any touchdowns, or drain any 3-pointers, but supporting your team to the fullest should be enough to be considered apart of the team.

As for the CP3, I’d trade my left nut for him.

..See! The Knicks do have valuable assets!

[stanford hoops]

Untill Paul comes out and says it I’m
not buying it. All theses sources said bosh was staying then going then lebron to ny. The sources could be a guy in the knicks front office. I just read a close source says Paul
wants to go to the bobcats

[MagikKnickParticipant]

I don’t buy none if it either. But I don’t think Paul would come out and say it either, its kinda like asking to be fined. If it happens, it happens. If it not, well, it doesnt. But I personally dont see him leaving NOLA

[stanford hoops]

“Three-time All-Star point guard Chris Paul said he likes the current changes under way with the New Orleans Hornets and believes they are moving in the right direction involving their search to hire a general manager.”-Nola.com. The times picyuna paper

[kanyedabestParticipant]

It’s CP3’s carreer and ultimately his legacy….its his choice if he stays w/ NO he will struggle to make playoffs year in and year out or he can go to a team in which he will have a shot at the promise land

[NarcParticipant]

The only real salivating pieces that the Knicks have, is Gallo, Wilson Chandler,Raymond Felton, and before you laugh, Eddy Curry. His huge contract is in its final year and the Knicks would gladly part with it if they could get a nice package in return.

I can however see the Magic making a decent push for him because they have some nice pieces. Guys like Barnes, Reddick, Pietrus, and Gortat could be involved in some type of deal.

[PlatypusParticipant]

Charlotte makes sense for CP3 because even though he would never win a title he would be playing for his home town and he wouldnt leave again until he was old sorta like Jason Kidd and New Jersey.

idea for Nohla and Charlotte

Okafor, Paul, and Posey for Diaw, Mohamed, Augistin, and Gerald Wallace and 2 picks

Paul – Livingston
Jackson – Henderson – Carroll
Brown – Posey – Carroll
Thomas – Najera
Okafor – Diop

Collison – Augistin
Thorton – Pondexter
Wallace – Peja – Wright
West – Brackins – Diaw – Wright
Mohamed – Songailla

(40 mill in salary cap room)

[stanford hoops]

If that’s the case then the knicks are out of it because they struggle year after year. Also before Paul was hurt weren’t the hornets a playoff team? I’m not sure they struggle year after year. Hasn’t it been about one year in which he was hurt?

And gallo Chandler Felton aren’t players team salivate over. Lol

[stanford hoops]

Come on Now”never win a title”. We don’t know that. Any team can eventually when a title with the right players

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Eh, to each his own.

I lean towards CP3 behind closed doors looking to NO and saying ” I don’t wanna look bad but I don’t wanna be here. I want to go to a better team. I want to win a title. Go look for a nice deal”. I say this because as of right now New Orleans is looking to be a bottom tier playoff team at best. Chris Paul picked 3 teams who I believed set themselves up for a title in the future in New York, Orlando, Los Angles.

I feel there is no best team for Chris Paul out of the 3. Unless Carmelo Anthony decides not to sign the extension until season’s end- Chris Paul really would not be going to a better team. It’s actually interesting that he put NY as one of the 3 when you think about it.

I like Orlando but I don’t love it for him. I think Howard would benefit from CP3 but not in late games. How many alley oops do you see being thrown with 2 mintues left in the 4th? not many.

Los Angels is the talented team and it makes sense to want to go to the defending champion. This is a personal opinion: I would not take back Andrew Bynum. He has not shown that he’s capable of being healthy for 82 games. What sense does it make in giving up Paul for someone who’s hasn’t played a full 82 since taking the next step as a potential franchise center. I think the whole- Odom/Bynum for Paul is crazy to me.

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