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    Zarathustra
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    Shouldnt’t he stay another year in college,i haven’t seen him play,i’m just asking.What is the ceiling of this guy ? He’s long (not tall) and athletic but does he have some fundamentals,perimeter shot,feel for the game ?

     

    If there is a Jayhawk fan who can help me understand,it would be much appreciated.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1043830
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    AdamJCalleja
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    He should definitely stay another year but if he declares I’m not sure if a team in the lottery should take a chance on him. Runs the floor like a guard though, it’s really impressive. Reminds me of Chris Mccollough from last year but with a better motor

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  • #1043692
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    He should definitely stay another year but if he declares I’m not sure if a team in the lottery should take a chance on him. Runs the floor like a guard though, it’s really impressive. Reminds me of Chris Mccollough from last year but with a better motor

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  • #1043842
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    TWILL123
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     He has talent but he is definitely not worth a lottery pick at this time, in my opinion. Another year in college would suit him well, as he should eat up all the minutes Perry Ellis leaves behind. 

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  • #1043704
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    TWILL123
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     He has talent but he is definitely not worth a lottery pick at this time, in my opinion. Another year in college would suit him well, as he should eat up all the minutes Perry Ellis leaves behind. 

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  • #1043846
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     I dont mind him in the late lottery. Staying in school would probably help but he will get drafted in the 1st round if he declared and the reality is that money talks.

    I dont see him being a contributor straight away but I predict a Clint Capella type of career trajectory.

    If a team can wear that, they’ll probably get a handy player before the Rookie contract runs its course.

     

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  • #1043708
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     I dont mind him in the late lottery. Staying in school would probably help but he will get drafted in the 1st round if he declared and the reality is that money talks.

    I dont see him being a contributor straight away but I predict a Clint Capella type of career trajectory.

    If a team can wear that, they’ll probably get a handy player before the Rookie contract runs its course.

     

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  • #1043716
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    VRod305
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    I’ve watched some Kansas and haven’t seen him play. Between him and Shal, I don’t know how you take these guys in the lottery. Then again, teams now take these workouts way too seriously. He has a good workout and he could go in the lottery.

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  • #1043854
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    VRod305
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    I’ve watched some Kansas and haven’t seen him play. Between him and Shal, I don’t know how you take these guys in the lottery. Then again, teams now take these workouts way too seriously. He has a good workout and he could go in the lottery.

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  • #1043718
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    Chilbert arenas
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     If we got rid of the Mcdonalds, Hoops Summit, and Jordan games this wouldn’t even be a discussion. 

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  • #1043856
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    Chilbert arenas
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     If we got rid of the Mcdonalds, Hoops Summit, and Jordan games this wouldn’t even be a discussion. 

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  • #1043724
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     Diallo is a project and basically all potential at this point. Hes not even good enough to get mins at Kansas let alone contribute for an NBA team. Is it possible that he could develop rapidly and turn into one of the best pfs in the NBA in 5 years? Of course it is. It’s also possible that he gets buried on the bench, doesn’t develop much and is out of the league in a few years. With that type of uncertainty, there is no way he’s a lottery pick right now. I think it would be a gamble for him to declare because I don’t see him as a sure-fire first rounder. He just hasn’t shown enough on the court against actual high level competition. Someone would take a chance on his potential if he enters the draft, but it would not be in the lottery and might be in the second round where he wouldn’t be guaranteed to earn any money. 

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  • #1043862
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     Diallo is a project and basically all potential at this point. Hes not even good enough to get mins at Kansas let alone contribute for an NBA team. Is it possible that he could develop rapidly and turn into one of the best pfs in the NBA in 5 years? Of course it is. It’s also possible that he gets buried on the bench, doesn’t develop much and is out of the league in a few years. With that type of uncertainty, there is no way he’s a lottery pick right now. I think it would be a gamble for him to declare because I don’t see him as a sure-fire first rounder. He just hasn’t shown enough on the court against actual high level competition. Someone would take a chance on his potential if he enters the draft, but it would not be in the lottery and might be in the second round where he wouldn’t be guaranteed to earn any money. 

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  • #1043821
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    Biggysmalls
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     Yeah the fact that Diallo isn’t getting minutes at Kansas should be an indictment on his readiness. 

    Kansas is good, they aren’t so good that a legit lottery talent gets buried on the bench. Their bigs other than Perry Ellis are Hunter Michelson and Jamari Traylor. That’s not great company. If he playing like people hoped he would, they’d be the favorite to win the title. 

    Instead, he’s a 10 mpg bench guy and they are in the mix but have the look of a team that could lose in the 2nd round. 

     

     

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  • #1043957
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    Biggysmalls
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     Yeah the fact that Diallo isn’t getting minutes at Kansas should be an indictment on his readiness. 

    Kansas is good, they aren’t so good that a legit lottery talent gets buried on the bench. Their bigs other than Perry Ellis are Hunter Michelson and Jamari Traylor. That’s not great company. If he playing like people hoped he would, they’d be the favorite to win the title. 

    Instead, he’s a 10 mpg bench guy and they are in the mix but have the look of a team that could lose in the 2nd round. 

     

     

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  • #1043829
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    I think the player whose situation and perception is the closest is Patric Young. He was another super-long super-athlete who needed to learn how to play. Now, Young played about double Diallo’s minutes as a freshmen (17.8 to 8.5), but I think it is still somewhat apt. He went from being someone perceived to be a lottery pick when backing up Vernon Macklin, Alex Tyus, and Erik Murphy to someone who ultimately went undrafted after four years. Honestly, after a good year in Turkey and signing with Olympiakos, it seemed possible Young would get another crack at the NBA in the not-too-distant future, but he tore his ACL.

    This brings back the coversation back to the same old questions about development. Is a truly raw player like Diallo better off as a player entering the draft and spending the next two years in the NBDL versus staying at Kansas? What happens if the team that drafts him does not have a D-League affiliate (ala the free agent signing of Cliff Alexander)? How highly can a bad team take a guy that they know cannot help them win games anytime soon in what does not look like an overwhelming draft outside the first couple picks?

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  • #1043965
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    I think the player whose situation and perception is the closest is Patric Young. He was another super-long super-athlete who needed to learn how to play. Now, Young played about double Diallo’s minutes as a freshmen (17.8 to 8.5), but I think it is still somewhat apt. He went from being someone perceived to be a lottery pick when backing up Vernon Macklin, Alex Tyus, and Erik Murphy to someone who ultimately went undrafted after four years. Honestly, after a good year in Turkey and signing with Olympiakos, it seemed possible Young would get another crack at the NBA in the not-too-distant future, but he tore his ACL.

    This brings back the coversation back to the same old questions about development. Is a truly raw player like Diallo better off as a player entering the draft and spending the next two years in the NBDL versus staying at Kansas? What happens if the team that drafts him does not have a D-League affiliate (ala the free agent signing of Cliff Alexander)? How highly can a bad team take a guy that they know cannot help them win games anytime soon in what does not look like an overwhelming draft outside the first couple picks?

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  • #1043831
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    TeslaBaller
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     This year with the rules changing the number of underclassmen who declare will be ridiculous. Diallo will be on that list but why not go thru the process, get a feel for where you’ll be drafted and worse case go back to school. 

    We all know the NBA Draft is about potential, what you will be, and not college production. So why would anyone be surprised if Diallo was a 1st rounder? In what’s being said to be a down draft. I don’t think he’s a top 40 prospect but every year there’s some team that make me say WTF they picked who, at what # pick? aka the Charlotte Hornets. 

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    Why would any top recruit choose to play for Kansas and Bill Self? 

     

     

     

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    • #1043969
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      Speaking of which, Kansas has thrown an offer at young Aussie Deng Gak.

      Good player

       

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    • #1043833
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      Hype Machine

      Speaking of which, Kansas has thrown an offer at young Aussie Deng Gak.

      Good player

       

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  • #1043967
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    TeslaBaller
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     This year with the rules changing the number of underclassmen who declare will be ridiculous. Diallo will be on that list but why not go thru the process, get a feel for where you’ll be drafted and worse case go back to school. 

    We all know the NBA Draft is about potential, what you will be, and not college production. So why would anyone be surprised if Diallo was a 1st rounder? In what’s being said to be a down draft. I don’t think he’s a top 40 prospect but every year there’s some team that make me say WTF they picked who, at what # pick? aka the Charlotte Hornets. 

    Question:

    Why would any top recruit choose to play for Kansas and Bill Self? 

     

     

     

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  • #1043973
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    rope
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     I’d say the same thing here as I have been saying with Skal – buyer beware.

    You can’t really bust if it turns out you weren’t that good to begin with.

     

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  • #1043837
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    rope
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     I’d say the same thing here as I have been saying with Skal – buyer beware.

    You can’t really bust if it turns out you weren’t that good to begin with.

     

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  • #1043976
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    Biggysmalls
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     "Why would a top recruit play for Bill Self"

    Joel Embiid, Andrew Wiggins, Ben McLemore, the Morris twins, Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush and many other top recruits say hello. 

    Like what are you even saying? What has Diallo shown that would lead someone to believe that he would be playing so much more for another coach? What highly recruited guy went to Kansas, struggled and was better when they left? Can’t think of any. 

     

     

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  • #1044112
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    Biggysmalls
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     "Why would a top recruit play for Bill Self"

    Joel Embiid, Andrew Wiggins, Ben McLemore, the Morris twins, Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush and many other top recruits say hello. 

    Like what are you even saying? What has Diallo shown that would lead someone to believe that he would be playing so much more for another coach? What highly recruited guy went to Kansas, struggled and was better when they left? Can’t think of any. 

     

     

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