[JCliff24Participant]

http://www.fearthesword.com/2013/6/21/4453848/nba-draft-rumors-cleveland-cavaliers-and-boston-celtics-discussing

Would be interesting to see Pierce in Cleveland. Dan Gilbert is definitely has the win now mentality. For picks 31,33 this could be a great move for the Cavs.

[ChewyParticipant]

seeing Pierce in anything other than a Boston uniform just seems weird and wrong to me.

Paul Pierce just scored 19 a game THIS YEAR and all you get back are 2 2nd round picks… no thank you.

[ChewyParticipant]

seeing Pierce in anything other than a Boston uniform just seems weird and wrong to me.

Paul Pierce just scored 19 a game THIS YEAR and all you get back are 2 2nd round picks… no thank you.

[jjbarea11Participant]

You have to give the Celtics more than that, unless they’re desperate for rookies. Maybe throw in a Alonzo Gee?

[jjbarea11Participant]

You have to give the Celtics more than that, unless they’re desperate for rookies. Maybe throw in a Alonzo Gee?

[JCliff24Participant]

Hey I never said it would be a good deal for Boston haha.

[JCliff24Participant]

Hey I never said it would be a good deal for Boston haha.

[David Stern a.k.a. da muthaf@cking leader of da kryptsParticipant]

Man if Ainge did this people would be in his yard throwing a riot bigger than the one in Brazil right now.

[David Stern a.k.a. da muthaf@cking leader of da kryptsParticipant]

Man if Ainge did this people would be in his yard throwing a riot bigger than the one in Brazil right now.

[Chitown Finest2Participant]

Sending Paul Pierce to Cleveland for 2nd round picks would be totally disrespectful after he spent his whole career there. They are better off explaining to him they are in rebuild mode and ask would you like to finish here, or would you like us to let you walk (Buy him out) to find another ring….

[Chitown Finest2Participant]

Sending Paul Pierce to Cleveland for 2nd round picks would be totally disrespectful after he spent his whole career there. They are better off explaining to him they are in rebuild mode and ask would you like to finish here, or would you like us to let you walk (Buy him out) to find another ring….

[aramboneParticipant]

15 million to play with Kyrie Irving on a potential 5th seed? Pierce won’t mind getting overpaid and leading a turnaround like that. Besides, I don’t think he sees the Clippers through rose colored glasses anymore after all that bs.

[aramboneParticipant]

15 million to play with Kyrie Irving on a potential 5th seed? Pierce won’t mind getting overpaid and leading a turnaround like that. Besides, I don’t think he sees the Clippers through rose colored glasses anymore after all that bs.

[fcb206Participant]

I’m pretty sure that conversation has already happened. It seems obvious, that after the Clippers rumors and now this noise out of cleveland that regardless of whether or not those two deals do or do not happen, Boston is planning a rebuild. Maybe PP would prefer to get traded and keep his 15 mill. He won’t get that kind of money in free agency. Probably not even over a multi year deal. I think it’s in Boston’s best interest to tank next season and rebuild around a high lottery pick next year. If I was Ainge, anyone but Rondo and Bradley (and maybe Jeff Green) could be had for picks and cap room.

[fcb206Participant]

I’m pretty sure that conversation has already happened. It seems obvious, that after the Clippers rumors and now this noise out of cleveland that regardless of whether or not those two deals do or do not happen, Boston is planning a rebuild. Maybe PP would prefer to get traded and keep his 15 mill. He won’t get that kind of money in free agency. Probably not even over a multi year deal. I think it’s in Boston’s best interest to tank next season and rebuild around a high lottery pick next year. If I was Ainge, anyone but Rondo and Bradley (and maybe Jeff Green) could be had for picks and cap room.

[Cavaliers420Participant]

I think it would be weird to see PP in a Cavs uni. I don’t think it is worth the two picks also because honestly if he goes to the Cavs he will want out asap because hes a Celtic, him joining Cleveland doesn’t fit. Not worth it for Cleveland in the end.

[Cavaliers420Participant]

I think it would be weird to see PP in a Cavs uni. I don’t think it is worth the two picks also because honestly if he goes to the Cavs he will want out asap because hes a Celtic, him joining Cleveland doesn’t fit. Not worth it for Cleveland in the end.

[FutureNBAGMParticipant]

It probably wont work. Pierce is in his mid 30’s and isnt gonna get better. If I were Cleveland, I would target a young SF who could grow with their young core. Plus, Pierce has an expiring deal and I doubt he would be willing to re-sign with the rebuilding Cavs.

[FutureNBAGMParticipant]

It probably wont work. Pierce is in his mid 30’s and isnt gonna get better. If I were Cleveland, I would target a young SF who could grow with their young core. Plus, Pierce has an expiring deal and I doubt he would be willing to re-sign with the rebuilding Cavs.

[kyrieTIME002Participant]

They wouldn’t resign him^^

[kyrieTIME002Participant]

They wouldn’t resign him^^

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t understand why Gilbert is in win-now mode but if he could get Pierce for that cheap, why not?

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t understand why Gilbert is in win-now mode but if he could get Pierce for that cheap, why not?

[rwd5035Participant]

Haha, sounds like someone from Fox Sports Ohio listens to the BS Report with Bill Simmons and his podcast on Sunday with Ryen Russillo where they discussed this exact hypothetical trade, they both agreed it made sense and they moved on. Now it’s all of a sudden reported that it’s in discussion, peculiar timing.

[rwd5035Participant]

Haha, sounds like someone from Fox Sports Ohio listens to the BS Report with Bill Simmons and his podcast on Sunday with Ryen Russillo where they discussed this exact hypothetical trade, they both agreed it made sense and they moved on. Now it’s all of a sudden reported that it’s in discussion, peculiar timing.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

I do know that the Cavs front office has always liked Pierce and metric guys have all been a fan of Pierce.

TOLM, I think Gilbert wants to win now because losing isn’t fun. Futility is boring and charging regular price for tickets and concessions in Cleveland (next to Detroit is poorness) isn’t flying. The fans are passionate and “we want more” beside that’s not a lot to be asking for if you have been fed a steady diet of nothing. Just by this site alone you can tell sports mean something to the people here. He isn’t a guy accustomed to losing, he is a shrewd business man and a shark. Literally a card shark, he got casinos built here when everyone thought it was politically impossible. The most promising thing the Cavs have going for them is the fact CG won’t do anything dumb, ever. There are things that could have been done different including some draft selections but he seems to be immune to the big blinder. He avoided Bynum, Gay and Kris Humphries. He is involved in every trade rumor but only pulls the trigger on crazy lopsided deals much like this rumored one. I think Pierce would prefer the 15 million for the Cavs this year then 5 million plus a vet minimum.

Everyone says a franchise never wants to be the Hawks of the mid 00’s. But fans came to those games and saw there team win 45 to 50 games and that’s so much more fun and entertaining than seeing your team win 20 or 30. The Mavs were the Hawks out west and they pulled it out one year. The Pacers could have beat the Heat last year and this year with a different bounce of the ball here and there. What’s so bad about being good not great. Great is primarily exclusive anyway. There is no path to greatness as a team, to many variables. The only way is hope guys collude to make it happen. CP3 just found out its harder than it seems. Why aren’t the Nets and Lakers great, they had excellent rosters, because great is pretty f-ing hard to do. You could get old (Lakers), hurt (Blazers, Knicks), just don’t have it (Nets), be good and still lose (Memphis, Pacers) or salary capped out (keeping GS from the next phase).

CG said he will always be partial to cap space, 1rst round draft picks and flexibility for the future. If Pierce was obtained in this proposed deal

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

All you do is get better in the short run. Plus all these top 5 selections aren’t on cheap deals and there cap holds their restricted year are going to be high as h3ll at 250% of a 4th year of 6-8 million. A top 5 selection comes with a max extension value cap hold.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

All you do is get better in the short run. Plus all these top 5 selections aren’t on cheap deals and there cap holds their restricted year are going to be high as h3ll at 250% of a 4th year of 6-8 million. A top 5 selection comes with a max extension value cap hold.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

I do know that the Cavs front office has always liked Pierce and metric guys have all been a fan of Pierce.

TOLM, I think Gilbert wants to win now because losing isn’t fun. Futility is boring and charging regular price for tickets and concessions in Cleveland (next to Detroit is poorness) isn’t flying. The fans are passionate and “we want more” beside that’s not a lot to be asking for if you have been fed a steady diet of nothing. Just by this site alone you can tell sports mean something to the people here. He isn’t a guy accustomed to losing, he is a shrewd business man and a shark. Literally a card shark, he got casinos built here when everyone thought it was politically impossible. The most promising thing the Cavs have going for them is the fact CG won’t do anything dumb, ever. There are things that could have been done different including some draft selections but he seems to be immune to the big blinder. He avoided Bynum, Gay and Kris Humphries. He is involved in every trade rumor but only pulls the trigger on crazy lopsided deals much like this rumored one. I think Pierce would prefer the 15 million for the Cavs this year then 5 million plus a vet minimum.

Everyone says a franchise never wants to be the Hawks of the mid 00’s. But fans came to those games and saw there team win 45 to 50 games and that’s so much more fun and entertaining than seeing your team win 20 or 30. The Mavs were the Hawks out west and they pulled it out one year. The Pacers could have beat the Heat last year and this year with a different bounce of the ball here and there. What’s so bad about being good not great. Great is primarily exclusive anyway. There is no path to greatness as a team, to many variables. The only way is hope guys collude to make it happen. CP3 just found out its harder than it seems. Why aren’t the Nets and Lakers great, they had excellent rosters, because great is pretty f-ing hard to do. You could get old (Lakers), hurt (Blazers, Knicks), just don’t have it (Nets), be good and still lose (Memphis, Pacers) or salary capped out (keeping GS from the next phase).

CG said he will always be partial to cap space, 1rst round draft picks and flexibility for the future. If Pierce was obtained in this proposed deal

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Had more triple doubles this year than any year in his career. He shot a lower % with no Rondo. PP can still seriouly ball. Need a good player and 1st round pick. A early one for him.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Had more triple doubles this year than any year in his career. He shot a lower % with no Rondo. PP can still seriouly ball. Need a good player and 1st round pick. A early one for him.

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