[HitsterParticipant]

 Congratulations to Melo on becoming only the 40th player to reach 20,000 career points. He is also the 6th youngest to do so and with a 5 year deal in place could go right up the list in due course.

The next active player on the career point list behind Melo is D-Wade who is just over 17,500 so he would seem to be the next player likely to reach the milestone unless KD comes with a huge burst in the next few years, he is currently 14,851.

To put Kareem’s career record total into perspective it is still more than Melo and D-Wade’s combined total and they have played for over 22 seasons combined and are 4th  and 5th on the active PPG list.

 

 

[UnbiasedObserverParticipant]

 Of course he’s going to go up the list… Haha

[UnbiasedObserverParticipant]

 Of course he’s going to go up the list… Haha

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 20,000 points, 0 rings, 1 trip to the western conference finals, multiple playoff failures.  Carmelo is the ultimate volume scorer.  He puts up numbers but doesn’t win.  He doesn’t make any of his teammates better.  He had a chance to compete for a.ring this year if he had sign e d with the bulls, but decided to take the money and stay in New York will be will most likely.never win a ring.  Not a fan of.Menlo.at all.  

 

[machu46Participant]

There’s no guarantee he’d win a ring in Chicago either.  If Rose stays healthy, they’ll have a good chance, but his health is a huge question mark, and the Knicks can theoretically reload in a year or two to give Melo a chance to be the leader of a contending team.

Maybe he’d rather be the #1 guy and keep trying to fight for a ring rather than settling for being the second banana in Chicago and hoping his #1 guy stays healthy?

And people paint this picture like Melo’s teams never win…he’s missed the playoffs once in his career.  He’s never had a team that was really a contender.  He’s done pretty damn well for himself.

 

 

[machu46Participant]

There’s no guarantee he’d win a ring in Chicago either.  If Rose stays healthy, they’ll have a good chance, but his health is a huge question mark, and the Knicks can theoretically reload in a year or two to give Melo a chance to be the leader of a contending team.

Maybe he’d rather be the #1 guy and keep trying to fight for a ring rather than settling for being the second banana in Chicago and hoping his #1 guy stays healthy?

And people paint this picture like Melo’s teams never win…he’s missed the playoffs once in his career.  He’s never had a team that was really a contender.  He’s done pretty damn well for himself.

 

 

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I bet your favorite players are CP3, Blake Griffin and Kevin Love aren’t they? Guess what bozo they haven’t won crap either. I guess all the numbers they put up are meaningless too.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I bet your favorite players are CP3, Blake Griffin and Kevin Love aren’t they? Guess what bozo they haven’t won crap either. I guess all the numbers they put up are meaningless too.

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 20,000 points, 0 rings, 1 trip to the western conference finals, multiple playoff failures.  Carmelo is the ultimate volume scorer.  He puts up numbers but doesn’t win.  He doesn’t make any of his teammates better.  He had a chance to compete for a.ring this year if he had sign e d with the bulls, but decided to take the money and stay in New York will be will most likely.never win a ring.  Not a fan of.Menlo.at all.  

 

[bloodshyParticipant]

Regardless of Melo’s faults, this is a great accomplishment–good for Melo. 

The part of your post I liked best was your perspective on Kareem’s accomplishment. The guy was unreal. People just start falling apart at a certain point. At this point it looks as though Kobe will finish third on the all-time list. LBJ and KD could theoretically challenge for the top spot, but they have such a long ways to go I’d bet against it happening prior to their physical breakdown.

Playing that well for that long is an amazing feat. It will probably not be broken by anyone in the current generation, so we’re probably looking at a record that will still be in place in 2030. Amazingly, Stockton’s assists (15,806) and steals (3,265) records are probably even less likely to be broken anytime soon.

To put those 15,806 assists in perspective, the next closest on assists is Kidd at 12,091. The next closest active is Nash at 10,335 in his 18th season. Andre Miller is at about half of Stockton’s total (8,157) in his 17th season. CP3 is currently at 6,140 at the 10-year mark. Nash plus CP3, who will combine for 28 seasons after this year, have a total of 16,475, just 669 ahead of Stockton by himself. Frankly, there is no one in the league at this point that could conceivably challenge this record. Anyone that has been in the league more than 3-4 years is likely beyond any chance of catching it regardless of future dominance. If this record is ever broken it will almost certainly not happen before 2030. 

Stockton’s 3,265 steals are similar. #2 is Kidd again at 2,684. However, the closest active player is Kobe at just 1,842. CP3, the greatest thief over the last decade, is at 1,494 in his 10th season and his pace appears to be dropping off. There’s really no one in position to break this record in the next 15 years, even with elite theivery and a long, injury-free career. 

Sometimes we get so caught up in the greatness we have in front of us that we forget how amazing the earlier generations really were. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[bloodshyParticipant]

Regardless of Melo’s faults, this is a great accomplishment–good for Melo. 

The part of your post I liked best was your perspective on Kareem’s accomplishment. The guy was unreal. People just start falling apart at a certain point. At this point it looks as though Kobe will finish third on the all-time list. LBJ and KD could theoretically challenge for the top spot, but they have such a long ways to go I’d bet against it happening prior to their physical breakdown.

Playing that well for that long is an amazing feat. It will probably not be broken by anyone in the current generation, so we’re probably looking at a record that will still be in place in 2030. Amazingly, Stockton’s assists (15,806) and steals (3,265) records are probably even less likely to be broken anytime soon.

To put those 15,806 assists in perspective, the next closest on assists is Kidd at 12,091. The next closest active is Nash at 10,335 in his 18th season. Andre Miller is at about half of Stockton’s total (8,157) in his 17th season. CP3 is currently at 6,140 at the 10-year mark. Nash plus CP3, who will combine for 28 seasons after this year, have a total of 16,475, just 669 ahead of Stockton by himself. Frankly, there is no one in the league at this point that could conceivably challenge this record. Anyone that has been in the league more than 3-4 years is likely beyond any chance of catching it regardless of future dominance. If this record is ever broken it will almost certainly not happen before 2030. 

Stockton’s 3,265 steals are similar. #2 is Kidd again at 2,684. However, the closest active player is Kobe at just 1,842. CP3, the greatest thief over the last decade, is at 1,494 in his 10th season and his pace appears to be dropping off. There’s really no one in position to break this record in the next 15 years, even with elite theivery and a long, injury-free career. 

Sometimes we get so caught up in the greatness we have in front of us that we forget how amazing the earlier generations really were. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[HitsterParticipant]

Stockton’s assist record is unlikely to be broken given the amount he is ahead of any of the chasing pack and Bloodshy gives an excellent illustration of this by using recent players.

The one guy who may have got close to a similar number of assits or even surpassed Stockton’s record would probably have been Magic Johnson whose career was effectively finished at 31/32 years old due to his health issues.

I always use the example that Magic would have been 36/37 when the Lakers signed Shaq and drafted Kobe, given his basketball IQ and skill level, there would have been every chance Magic could have played well into that era.

[HitsterParticipant]

Stockton’s assist record is unlikely to be broken given the amount he is ahead of any of the chasing pack and Bloodshy gives an excellent illustration of this by using recent players.

The one guy who may have got close to a similar number of assits or even surpassed Stockton’s record would probably have been Magic Johnson whose career was effectively finished at 31/32 years old due to his health issues.

I always use the example that Magic would have been 36/37 when the Lakers signed Shaq and drafted Kobe, given his basketball IQ and skill level, there would have been every chance Magic could have played well into that era.

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