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- Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 12:29am #18834

sheltwon3ParticipantMy homie is a Knicks fan so I know a lot about this team and they are better than people give them credit because they have young unknown talent and not well known established players.
Amare: He is a well known player recently signed and is an All star and dangerous scoring in the low post and is a terrific pick and roll player. I can see at least 25 points for him
Gallinari: A young European player with great shooting skills and is almost 7 feet.
He is either a poor man Dirk or Bargnani clone. He is dangerous at teh 3pt line. I can see at least 18 points from himRandolph: This guy has a high ceiling and could come to New York like some guys came to Phoenix back in the day and become the player that everyone wanted him to be. He put up 15 and 7 before injuries in GSW and could do better for the Knicks. He also could be included in a trade to get Melo. I can see at least 15 points from him.
Bill Walker: He is said to be looking like the player he was before knee injuries turned a future lottery pick into a shell of his former self. He played real well for Knicks at 30 lbs more. He is very athletic and has a strong NBA body. I can see at least 14 points from him.
Toney Douglas:He is young and talented but unknown like Rondo was early on in his career but their games are totally different but I am just saying in his second year with more minutes we don’t know what he can do consistently. He has shown he can get to the basket and shoot well from outside but play making is not that great. I can see him coming off the bench and putting up at least 8 points with a couple of assists.
Wilson Chandler: He is a very versatile player. He can score in a variety of ways and does it efficiently. He can post smaller defenders, can slash and finish, and shoot well for the perimeter. I can see at least 10 points from him and also stats across the board
Ronny Turiaf: He is a solid hustle big man with a decent jumper. I can see him putting up a least 8 points with good deal or rebounds and block shots
Kelena Azubike: he is a solid scorer and defender. I dont know how much time he will get because Knicks are deep on the perimeter except for point guard so it depends but he could score10 to 15 point with decent minutes.
Jerome Jordan: Young big man who may not show much until his second year. He is raw but athletic and long. He would have been a lottery pick if his motor would have been better in college. I think he will be a steal
Andy Rautins:He is a very good 3 point shooter. Think JJ Redick. He may not get any time next year but if so I can see 2 points a game and a 3 every other game. I dont know how he will fit yet so this point total will probably go up.
Laundry Fields: I dont know much about him but from what I have seen he is long armed and athletic and can score which is perfect for this offense.
PG Douglas
SG Walker/Azubuike/Rautins
SFChandler/Fields
PF Gallinari/Randolph
C Amare/Turiaf/Curry/JordanKnicks will have to sign some point guard depth but right now if they sign their second round picks they will be a 12 players and the max amount of player is 15.
They are better than people think and could make moves that make them even better.
I can see this team when it is finally put together getting 40 and possibly 45 wins this coming season and making the playoffs but they still have cap room and can add maybe Melo and others which if they can do would put them on par with Miami, Lakers and other teams.
Melo: If Knicks can get him next year he is putting up at least 30 in this offense
Knicks would be wise to save their money and when the CBA has contracts going down they could possibly grab Melo and another max contract talent. They have enough talent this year to win 40 to 45 games which is good enough for playoffs in the East
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 12:34am #350026

RUDEBOY_ParticipantThey really need an experienced point guard to run the team..I really like Randolph & Walker’s upside..Hate to see David Lee go..How did they get Jerome Jordan ? I thought he was drafted by the Bucks?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 12:46am #350030

sheltwon3ParticipantBucks trade him to the Knicks but it did not go down officially until the other day but I knew about it the day after the draft.
Amare and Lee would not have been great fits or maybe they could have been but this way Knicks still have cap space.
I hope they get Melo who is not going to win with an aging Nuggets team in that Western Conference that could be just as dangerous as before even with some key losses
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 1:16am #350034

Specialt25ParticipantThey still have alot of cap room to sign a quality player to add to their team.
Their biggest need now is a PG.
1)Raymond Felton
2) Luke RidnourLuke might end up to be their choice.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 1:22am #350035
LazarusMunozParticipantThats a really young and inexperienced backcourt…If Azubuike comes back healthy from his injury then he should get the nod over Bill Walker
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 1:35am #350037

MkadozaParticipantYou are correct sir. I was feeling kinda low after the Lebrongate, but my facebook friends immediately started talking about the Lee trade. Seeing Anthony Randolph made my heart soar a little, but its a player like Turiaf that I’m in love with; hustle, grit, toughness, with a defensive low post presence. Azubuike is a versatile wing player with a good shot, so they have filled out their roster fairly well while maintaining cap flexibility.
The major caveat is all three come with injury history. Combine that with STAT (Who really just needs to avoid getting poked in the eye)and Walker, and their young potential player come with some risk, but reports are that Walker player at 250(!) last year and has already cut 10-15 lbs in the off-season.
This is a really young team, which is a hilariously refreshing change of pace. Their oldest player is Amar’e Stoudemire with Curry and Turiaf closely behind. I don’t know if there’s ever been a point in franchise history where they didn’t have one player over the age of 30, let alone 28. They’ve built a solid foundation by opening cap space and trading assets, even without the pick Isiah shipped… everywhere. They’re still that premiere superstar away from being title contenders, a player like LBJ or Wade would have fit perfectly, but the team will move on with the young talent they’ve assembled, and I am one Knicks fan who is ecstatic about the direction the team has taken in the past year or so.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 1:43am #350038

sheltwon3ParticipantI am glad I could write something to be encouraging to Knicks fans and just to let you know this is just the beginning because I know that Knicks will try to get their second max guys and then get as much young talents as they can because if 1 out of 5 young players on their team develop into a star they will be able to match what Heat did because Knicks should have not problem adding another max talent guy to this roster next season. I hope it is Melo. He like New York and so does his future wife. Guy are making decisions to win rather than over money. I never though Lebron, Wade, and Bosh would do it but they did so if Melo does it, You have to think New York is number one spot of him.
Melo would be a better fit than Lebron anyway.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 2:31am #350052

sheltwon3ParticipantKnicks could possibly get Shaun Livingston. He would be perfect for this offense. Also if he can build on what he showed in Washington, he could turn into the star he was supposed to be in Clippertown.
You could get Livington on a cheaper deal than Ridnour who would be a good fit but would cost more and Livington could give you more production but because of his past injuries he may not be able to demand as much.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 5:14am #350150
deshawynkeys91Participantthe nba is very predictable in terms of what is going to happen each yr… and a lineup of amare(no d… questionable rebounder)/ gallanari / chandler / walker / douglas is not going to win 40-45 games… in a eastern conf. that has gotten stronger over these past few wk…. that lineup will more likely win betwenn 30-35 games
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 5:23am #350160
stanford hoopsAt best they are a first round exit playoff team. Hopefully they won’t be putting all there eggs into getting melo like with bron bosh because he’s not coming. Knicks fans should be happy because they should be better next year. They still have no defenders though and just guys who can score which is a problem. Hopefully now somvfans will become more realistic and not think every free agent wants to go there just because some player says they think another player will go there or because Amare says he can get them there. None of these other big free agents decided to come play with Amare so there’s np reason to think melo would
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 5:29am #350163
stanford hoopsI also don’t see 40 wins. You replace lee with a nashless Amare so that equals out. You add azabuki and randolph who can both get doubt figure points. You subtract harringtons points. Sergio 6 points and duhons 7 points or less. You have Chandler and gallo and Douglass a year better. They definately need to add more. But there are no game changers out there on the fa list. Yea I think 40-45 wins are pushing it. Especially wit the bucks,heat,bulls getting muchhh better. And wit the hawks celtics, magic still being good. Bobcats still good as well
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 6:33am #350236
joecheck88Participantthey may not make the playoffs(good for rockets fans) but sheltwon is mostly right, they have filled their roster with young talented role players with amare. if they can get a solid point(like ridnour) and a carmelo they could be a perennial playoff team(probably not champs but better than these last 10 years).
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 6:46am #350250
NarcParticipantThe Knicks biggest glaring hole right now, will be PG. And this is coming from a guy who thinks that Douglas can be a starter. For that alone I’m going to say they will win 35-40 games, but I do see them making the playoffs…the Knicks have a nice solid young core. I think that if they add a veteran PG, they can get some things done in NY and turn into real contenders. Guys like Walker, Randolph, and Gallinari are filled with potential, they added depth with the GS trade, and most importantly they got the money to add some real good proven pieces next year. I think either way you want to look at it, the Knicks are going to have a bright future…as long as they spend wisely.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 7:23am #350291
McWinningParticipantReally i hate the Rondo comparion. Rondo came out as someone with a lot of potentiol, he was younger, but was inconsistsant in college and fell.
Douglas right now is 1 month younger than Rondo. I mean he was taken in the second round a BACKUP point guard, he doesnt have any upside, hes a solid career backup not much else.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 7:56am #350317

sheltwon3ParticipantDouglas was taken in the first round. he was Lakers pick but they traded it. Also Rondo came out with question marks and I did not compare their skill level or game but I compared their situation. Rondo’s first year in the NBA he did not show much. He showed decent stats when they first got the big 3 but he was a offensive liability and did not play in many 4th quarter situations. We will see. I will stand by what I am saying and if I am wrong I will own up to it but if I am right like I tend to be and people on here start to see it. Even when I am wrong I am only off by like a little bit but I gave 40 to 45 games giving myself a cushion because predicting games is tough. Also I do agree that a lot of team got better but the thing is Knicks play a certain pace and to all the teams that are not fully there yet they will beat and they are good enough now to surprise people. I remember last year Knicks beat Boston and almost beat Lakers.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 7:56am #350318

sheltwon3ParticipantDouglas was taken in the first round. he was Lakers pick but they traded it. Also Rondo came out with question marks and I did not compare their skill level or game but I compared their situation. Rondo’s first year in the NBA he did not show much. He showed decent stats when they first got the big 3 but he was a offensive liability and did not play in many 4th quarter situations. We will see. I will stand by what I am saying and if I am wrong I will own up to it but if I am right like I tend to be and people on here start to see it. Even when I am wrong I am only off by like a little bit but I gave 40 to 45 games giving myself a cushion because predicting games is tough. Also I do agree that a lot of team got better but the thing is Knicks play a certain pace and to all the teams that are not fully there yet they will beat and they are good enough now to surprise people. I remember last year Knicks beat Boston and almost beat Lakers.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 07/09/2010 - 9:00am #350366
stanford hoopsBeat teams in the regular season doesn’t mean much. Anyne can beat anyone in the NBA once. The clippers beat the lakers as well. I know some wanna compare rondo and Douglass because of situations for sme reason but there games a the same stage are way different. Douglas is a back up on a good team. And a starter on this team because of no other options as of now
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