[Awesome-O-420Participant]

Here is an interesting article with stuff from Calipari about Brandon Knight.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/51982901-62/guys-john-ball-league.html.csp

Of interest is that Calipari compares Knight to Stockton a little bit.

So with Arans new mock and some of the talk out there, which implies what I’m about to ask –

Which player do you see with more long term potential? Knight or Irving? One is clearly more polished as a PG right now (Irving), but giving Knights intelligence, physicals and hard work ethic, do you see him as having more potential than Irving? Or do you believe if Irving never hurt himself, he would have been the player we saw in those 8 games all season long?  

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

One is a scoring PG and one is considered a Pure PG…it depends on which type of PG you prefer, to me their upside pretty even, but I do prefer a pure Point, and so do most teams which is why Irving is rated higher than Knight. Knight is the youngest college prospect in this draft so he has a ton of time to improve on his PG skills, which is already pretty good for a 19 year old.

[Awesome-O-420Participant]

 Let me be more clear:

At the beginning of the college year, Knight was an undersized SG playing the point. As the season progressed he became more of a PG. Some scouts in recent articles say that Knight can become more of a pure point, similar to the comparison Calipari was using with Stockton who was combo in college and the purest point in the NBA. So who has more potential to be the better player, not point or combo or whatever, – who cares those are just titles. Rose isn’t a "pure point" but who cares, that obviously isn’t hurting them. Who has more potential?

If you read the article it puts the question in more perspective. 

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

I guess Irving has a slight more potential, but only because Knight’s weakness has been exposed more than Irving’s. I don’t think Knight can be a pure PG, one of the reason why they lost the title was because Knight forgot to get his teammates involve. With the talent and shooters Kentucky had this year, I would think he would average more than 4APG, but then again that would be nitpicking his game considering he was a 18 year old PG putting up 17PPG 4APG, can’t really complain about his production. Irving is still a mystery about how he performs in big games when he’s 100%.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

Irving does have more potential than Knight although I think the difference between them is closer than you think. Knight is a very young, a terrific shooter (according to John Calipari), and a hard worker. You say Knight is not a true PG, but a scoring PG, but I disagree. I think he is more of a pure PG than you think.

Here’s why: You don’t see too many college kids put up 10-12 assists a game. Why, for a couple reasons. 1: The college game is shorter than the NBA game by about 8 minutes, and 2: College kids are still young, they are still learning the nuances of the game. Most of these kids haven’t been playing PG their whole life, most of them play SG even a bit of a combo guard all throughout high school and their early years. Most of these kids are very new to the PG position and are still trying to learn it.

It is one of the hardest positions to learn and play. Right up there with the PF position. Most college kids tend to average about 6-7 assists per game by their senior season. Even Darius Morris, who is the truest point guard in this draft, only averaged 6.7 assists his sophomore season at Michigan. Knight is only a freshman, and at the end of the year he averaged 4.2 assists. So he’s not far off from Darius Morris. (Only 2.5 assists more)

He’s a hard worker, so even though he’s has a lot to improve in order to reach the level of a true PG, he’s going to work at it and he’s going to get better. He’s more even keel too. What I mean by that is he is not a so-called big shot that has a snotty attitude. He’s even keel, mellow, humble, yet enough toughness to want to get better. He’s a perfect fit for the Jazz and I fully expect them to pick him unless someone else impresses them more in the Knight, Walker, Fredette workout coming on the 15th.

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