[PlatypusParticipant]

Brandon Bass isn’t issuing a play-me-or-trade-me demand to the Orlando Magic. He is too nice, too soft-spoken to make a pronouncement like that. It’s just not his way. This is just a gentle reminder. “I think they’ll do the right thing, whatever is the right thing — either play me next season or send me somewhere else. That’s what I’m hoping,” Bass told FanHouse earlier this week following the Summer Groove charity game in Miami. “I won’t go through what I did last season.” FanHouse.com

“I expect things to be better for me next season,” he said. “I felt like I deserved more of an opportunity than I received last season. Look at the series (against Boston when the Magic lost). I was just what was missing. I respect Coach Stan (Van Gundy) and the way he likes to play, but sometimes you have to try something different.” FanHouse.com

Bass was made available by the Magic in several trade discussions this summer, but they found no takers. The Magic also have a well-paid backup center (Marcin Gortat) who also is hoping for playing time next season at power forward. FanHouse.com

what are your trade ideas?

[PlatypusParticipant]

Far out there but Vince Carter and Bass for Jason Richardson and Grant Hill

Nelson – Duhon
J Rich – Reddick
Hill – Pietrus
Lewis – Anderson – Orton
D12 – Gortat – Orton

Nash – Dragic
Carter – Childress
Hedo – Childress – Dudley
Warrick – Bass – Clark
Lopez – Frye

OR

3 team deal
Minny sends Sessions
Det sends Hamilton and Prince
Orl sends Carter and Bass

Flynn – Ridinour
Webster – Ellington
Johnson – Brewer
Love – Bass
Darko – Kufos

Stuckey – Sessions – White
Carter – Gordon – White
Daye – Summers
Jerebko – Charlie V
Monroe – Maxiell – Wilcox

Nelson – Duhon
Hamilton – Reddick
Prince – Pietrus
Lewis – Anderson – Orton
D12 – Gortat – Orton

[PlatypusParticipant]

Forgot to throw Beasley up above, put him in a Lamar Odom role

also Ben Wallace behind Monroe

[llperez]

i dont think your first trade adds up carter makes more then richardson and bass makes more then hill, so salaries are probably off. Plus hill accepted less money to be in phoenix and he is a case where i think loyalty would win out unless he really wanted to return to orlando again.

second one doesnt seem bad

[ghettosermonParticipant]

Brandon Bass is a much better player than he’s given credit for. It’s disgusting how little SVG uses Bass and even Ryan Anderson, and seems content with Rashard Lewis being eaten alive night after night on the defensive end. Not to mention Gortat and Howard in together is a nightmare since neither can hit a mid range jumper to save their lives. SVG really needs to move Rashard to SF more often and allow Bass and Anderson to play. Bass and Anderson are the perfect complements to Dwight Howard. Anderson is the obvious complement with his shooting range, but people don’t realize how underrated Bass’s mid range shot is. He’s pretty money in the mid range game. He also brings more toughness defensively than Anderson.

[llperez]

i agree^^^ Bass should be playing more minutes.

[PlatypusParticipant]

@ llperez

they all went thru on the trade machine

@ ghettosermon

agree with everything you just said

[marcusfizer21Participant]

How true… Rashard does get eaten alive man… Brandon Bass is a tough player who is not afraid to bang it down low unlike Lewis… Lewis does have more offensive weapons but Dwight Howard needs a lot of support downlow and Lewis couldn’t give that to him… Bass, I thought, should have gotten more PT…

[ghettosermonParticipant]

Also SVG ignores Rashard’s defensive deficiencies down low because he likes his fit on offense and his ability to keep the lane open. While it’s true his 3 point range drags the 4 out and gives Howard more room to operate it isn’t that huge of an advantage. Both Bass and Anderson are good enough shooters to keep the floor spaced. You don’t necessarily need 3 point range to keep the lane unclogged. All you need is someone who can knock down a mid range shot. Both Bass and Anderson can. Also as much as he has a speed and quickness advantage over 4’s, Rashard doesn’t drive it nearly as much as he should although a lot of this has to do with the fact that he isn’t a strong finisher.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Brandon Bass to New Jersey for a 2nd round pick likely to be no worse than 40. Why would that not work? Orlando saves 8 million in salary and tax while New Jersey gets a real complement for Favors at the PF spot.

Why couldn’t Gortat to Cleveland for West’s non-guaranteed contract and one of the picks the Heat sent them work?

I’m also still waiting on my Vince Carter to the Clippers rumor to surface.

[ghettosermonParticipant]

The problem is that Otis Smith is enamored with Gortat being an emergency plan. The problem is that Dwight Howard has never shown and history of injury issues. While it’s a luxury to have a backup like Gortat should Howard go down you have to consider how expensive it is for them just to keep around an insurance policy. The problem is that Gortat can’t play with Howard since both are limited beyond 5 feet of the basket, so essentially on a nightly basis you are paying starter money to a guy who might only get 10 minutes a game. I guess if Daniel Orton didn’t look like absolute trash in SL it might be easier to part with Gortat. While you never want to put stock in SL, Orton looked like someone who would average 3.4 ppg even if he were a starter. He’s basically big with zero skills and lazy attitude. I guess if Orlando can find a cheaper backup they can move Gortat. Maybe you could trade Gortat to Atlanta for Zaza Pachulia and Jeff Teague. Gortat gives Atlanta the coveted center they want and they can take Gortat’s contract because of the Childress TPE, and Orlando clears off Gortat’s huge contract and gets a more financially sensible backup to Dwight and a nice young prospect. The Magic don’t need a big minutes guy. They just need someone to hold fort as Dwight needs a breather. Gortat is extremely overpaid for that basic role.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

You can have a $6 million emergency plan for Dwight Howard. If Howard gets hurt, Orlando’s year is over. They probably make the playoffs, but without Howard they are the Knicks. There is no added value to paying Gortat $6 million over the minimum or around that amount they would pay Theo Ratliff, Josh Boone, Kwame Brown, or Brian Skinner. Their hopes are gone if Howard goes down, so they might as well get a higher pick and add talent. Their situation is much worse for matching Redick’s offer. It is a lot of bad money. The only one on that team who isn’t overpaid is Howard. It isn’t a sustainable situation.

[dmo21Participant]

Well I heard Toronto wants Barnes in a sign and trade, and i could see Orlando wanting Calderon, who is a true point guard, which the magic don’t have and is a good shooter which spreads the floor for dwight howard, and he also isnt good at defense, but having D12 behind him won’t really matter to much. Now Calderon could be traded for Barnes and I’d like to have Bass in there too, as he can be the low post presence they need. So, in the end, I’d like to see a Calderon and Evans(expiring) for Bass and Barnes(S&T)..

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Orlando doesn’t need expiring deals, they need the savings for this year. Vince Carter will be bought out for $4 million next summer. It might be the last order of business before a lockout, but it is going to happen. That and Redick’s front-loaded contract makes life easier for them going forward, but they are looking at a $20 million tax bill for this season. One has to believe that is going to be a reason Gortat and Bass will be sold off for picks to a team with cap space. Why would they take back a contract?

[dmo21Participant]

well instead of trading evans’ expiring contract, how about the Raps throw in their trade exemption?

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