[valentine]

 Boston has so many mid-value type of assets, that they could package them up  and make more ‘godfather’ offers like they did to Charlotte.

They could make a superteam by trading for 2 studs and give plenty of compensation in exchange. Lets say Player X wants out of Houston…and theyre looking at possible destinations who can give them the most players and picks. Boston has the most. The Nets trade was the biggest fleece in recent memory. Boston could get Simmons. Think about that.

Boston has at least 25 assets in terms of players and picks.

They could trade 4 first rounders and 4 quality players in exchange for 2 All-Stats…and they’d still have surplus.

Boston can actually afford to over-pay and not break a sweat.

They’re looming in my opinion. Not cos of their current squad…which is deep, but their ability to attract blockbuster trades.

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 I think they only need one big name. Their secret, besides Danny Ainge’s masterful moves, and Brad’s legendary coaching, is their ability to play as a team, for the team.

Very few big name stars could give a hoot about playing selfless team ball and making the extra pass.

And just winning creates stars out of nobodies. They can develop probably 4-5 stars just from the guys on the roster already. Smart, Olynyk, Rozier, IT4, and maybe RJ Hunter. Amir is looking amazing and he’s a sneaky good "star" already.

You think Draymond Green would be a star if he was playing in Orlando? Yeah right.

Same goes for Kawhi Leonard. Winning creates stars, and the Celtics are chock full of winners.

Rozier went off for like 16 points, 6 assists, 4 steals, 4 rebounds, and just one turnover tonight.

And he barely missed an epic dunk while being fouled, from like 6-7 feet away from the basket. 

Not bad for a kid who is already a better 3 point shooter than Westbrook or Rose will ever be.

But this preseason schedule isn’t helping us much. The only decent team on the preseason schedule is the Knicks. Playing the 76ers, Nets, and Euro teams isn’t the best preparation for a tough early season schedule.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 I think they only need one big name. Their secret, besides Danny Ainge’s masterful moves, and Brad’s legendary coaching, is their ability to play as a team, for the team.

Very few big name stars could give a hoot about playing selfless team ball and making the extra pass.

And just winning creates stars out of nobodies. They can develop probably 4-5 stars just from the guys on the roster already. Smart, Olynyk, Rozier, IT4, and maybe RJ Hunter. Amir is looking amazing and he’s a sneaky good "star" already.

You think Draymond Green would be a star if he was playing in Orlando? Yeah right.

Same goes for Kawhi Leonard. Winning creates stars, and the Celtics are chock full of winners.

Rozier went off for like 16 points, 6 assists, 4 steals, 4 rebounds, and just one turnover tonight.

And he barely missed an epic dunk while being fouled, from like 6-7 feet away from the basket. 

Not bad for a kid who is already a better 3 point shooter than Westbrook or Rose will ever be.

But this preseason schedule isn’t helping us much. The only decent team on the preseason schedule is the Knicks. Playing the 76ers, Nets, and Euro teams isn’t the best preparation for a tough early season schedule.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Knew this would be the first post.

I’m gonna explain this one more time…

Rozier will not be an All-Star, he will barely get playing time with the logjam in the backcourt the Celtics have. The only reason he "exploded" was because it was preseason against the Nets. I’d like to see him do that against the Warriors, Raptors, or Dallas, or any other team. (Except Utah, he could probably do that on them) Not only in the preseason but in the regular season.

Smart will be good, but not GOAT good

Olynyk will be good, never an All Star but a good role player

IT4 will probably be an All Star sometime, but probably not with the Celtics.

RJ Hunter is shooting like crap right now. Brash Brother, whatever.

I’m not denying that this Celtics team is going to be good, I expect them to be a 4-8 seed in the East, but not as good as your best in the East prediction.

Just my opinion though…

[markfitz14Participant]

Not this year of course.  Rozier will be a normal rookie who shows some good potential like he did in that preseason game. He just wont get much more than 15 minutes a game with all the players infront of him, Smart, Bradley and IT4. You have to admit it looks like Rozier has more potential than what was thought by most on draft night. Maybe he gets more playing time down the stretch or waits for a move to be made and gets a chance to blow up next year in his second year. I can’t wait to see him play more. Hopefully he will become the starting PG of the future. He could have the potential to be a player to the caliber of say a Jeff Teague or some second tier PG like that.

[markfitz14Participant]

Not this year of course.  Rozier will be a normal rookie who shows some good potential like he did in that preseason game. He just wont get much more than 15 minutes a game with all the players infront of him, Smart, Bradley and IT4. You have to admit it looks like Rozier has more potential than what was thought by most on draft night. Maybe he gets more playing time down the stretch or waits for a move to be made and gets a chance to blow up next year in his second year. I can’t wait to see him play more. Hopefully he will become the starting PG of the future. He could have the potential to be a player to the caliber of say a Jeff Teague or some second tier PG like that.

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Knew this would be the first post.

I’m gonna explain this one more time…

Rozier will not be an All-Star, he will barely get playing time with the logjam in the backcourt the Celtics have. The only reason he "exploded" was because it was preseason against the Nets. I’d like to see him do that against the Warriors, Raptors, or Dallas, or any other team. (Except Utah, he could probably do that on them) Not only in the preseason but in the regular season.

Smart will be good, but not GOAT good

Olynyk will be good, never an All Star but a good role player

IT4 will probably be an All Star sometime, but probably not with the Celtics.

RJ Hunter is shooting like crap right now. Brash Brother, whatever.

I’m not denying that this Celtics team is going to be good, I expect them to be a 4-8 seed in the East, but not as good as your best in the East prediction.

Just my opinion though…

[Robb_CParticipant]

If I was Boston I wouldn’t pick up any phone calls from Charlotte after Charlotte passed on those picks, so Boston could grab Winslow.. At this point any gm trying to make a deal with Charlotte would be trying to teach a retard how to tie his own shoes..

[Robb_CParticipant]

If I was Boston I wouldn’t pick up any phone calls from Charlotte after Charlotte passed on those picks, so Boston could grab Winslow.. At this point any gm trying to make a deal with Charlotte would be trying to teach a retard how to tie his own shoes..

[T Rex]

 Everybody is mentally incapacitated on draft day. Danny got super lucky MJ was equally out of his mind. The great picks that Danny made at 16, 28, and 33 were largely planned out in advance according to their big board.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Everybody is mentally incapacitated on draft day. Danny got super lucky MJ was equally out of his mind. The great picks that Danny made at 16, 28, and 33 were largely planned out in advance according to their big board.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Here’s the Rozier highlights from tonight. Not included for some reason is his awesome barely missed while fouled dunk

Nobody in their right mind would rather have DRussell than Rozier by now, and I’m not sure Mudiay is any better when you factor in defense and Rozier’s superior outside shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch

James Young is another Celtic with distinct star potential. 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Here’s the Rozier highlights from tonight. Not included for some reason is his awesome barely missed while fouled dunk

Nobody in their right mind would rather have DRussell than Rozier by now, and I’m not sure Mudiay is any better when you factor in defense and Rozier’s superior outside shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch

James Young is another Celtic with distinct star potential. 

 

 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 It’s because he missed. Guys like Westbrook or other "explosive" guards would have made it. 

Also, James Young will be a D-League dweller…

 

[markfitz14Participant]

They say he is young and just starting to develop. I dont see the potential here either. 

[T Rex]

 He’s already got 20 lbs of muscle more than Wiggins, who is older, with thin thin bones that won’t add a whole lote more muscle.

Oh, and did I mention James Young can shoot?

 

[T Rex]

 He’s already got 20 lbs of muscle more than Wiggins, who is older, with thin thin bones that won’t add a whole lote more muscle.

Oh, and did I mention James Young can shoot?

 

[markfitz14Participant]

They say he is young and just starting to develop. I dont see the potential here either. 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 It’s because he missed. Guys like Westbrook or other "explosive" guards would have made it. 

Also, James Young will be a D-League dweller…

 

[trelos6Participant]

The Celtics have all the pieces in play.  They have solid role players and contributors across the board.

What they need is an unselfish superstar who can flat out dominate a game.

They could develop this player (Smart), or draft them with the Nets pick (Simmons).

Celtics should not be trading for a player that isn’t a top 30 talent in the league, unless it’s to improve a specific role player (eg. Ryan Anderson for Kelly Olynyk, stretch 4 for stretch 4; but Olynyk is younger and has more potential).

 

 

 

 

[trelos6Participant]

The Celtics have all the pieces in play.  They have solid role players and contributors across the board.

What they need is an unselfish superstar who can flat out dominate a game.

They could develop this player (Smart), or draft them with the Nets pick (Simmons).

Celtics should not be trading for a player that isn’t a top 30 talent in the league, unless it’s to improve a specific role player (eg. Ryan Anderson for Kelly Olynyk, stretch 4 for stretch 4; but Olynyk is younger and has more potential).

 

 

 

 

[Robb_CParticipant]

I dont think the Celtics will trade those picks to teams for existing contracts,Brad Stevens and Ainge will use them to move up and down in future drafts.. Stevens like developing guys through his system and Ainge really understands the value of a rookie contract..

[Robb_CParticipant]

I dont think the Celtics will trade those picks to teams for existing contracts,Brad Stevens and Ainge will use them to move up and down in future drafts.. Stevens like developing guys through his system and Ainge really understands the value of a rookie contract..

[Robb_CParticipant]

I dont think the Celtics will trade those picks to teams for existing contracts,Brad Stevens and Ainge will use them to move up and down in future drafts.. Stevens like developing guys through his system and Ainge really understands the value of a rookie contract..

[Robb_CParticipant]

I dont think the Celtics will trade those picks to teams for existing contracts,Brad Stevens and Ainge will use them to move up and down in future drafts.. Stevens like developing guys through his system and Ainge really understands the value of a rookie contract..

[Rip256]

 I dunno man….theres a lot of REALLY good existing contracts out there. 

And like the Million Dollar man said…everyone has a price.

What price to get KD before he bolts for nothing?

 

 

 

[Rip256]

 I dunno man….theres a lot of REALLY good existing contracts out there. 

And like the Million Dollar man said…everyone has a price.

What price to get KD before he bolts for nothing?

 

 

 

[trelos6Participant]

Minimum 3 first round draft picks, and either 3 good young players or a few good roleplayers and a decent starter type.

For Celtics, it would be the Nets picks from 2016, 2017 (right to swap), and 2018.

Also, OKC would want Smart, Hunter, Olynyk and Johnson.

 

Even then, OKC hangs up the phone.

  

[trelos6Participant]

Minimum 3 first round draft picks, and either 3 good young players or a few good roleplayers and a decent starter type.

For Celtics, it would be the Nets picks from 2016, 2017 (right to swap), and 2018.

Also, OKC would want Smart, Hunter, Olynyk and Johnson.

 

Even then, OKC hangs up the phone.

  

[T Rex]

 Yeah right buddy.

If the Nets start out poorly, there’s already a bunch of stud college prospects tantalizing enough for the Celtics to be able to trade that Nets pick in January for an NBA star. Or more likely Danny will just sit tight and draft a Jalen Brown or better, and keep Smart, Olynyk, 2017 pick, 2018 pick etc etc.

Meanwhile, OKC will be drifting like the tumbleweeds, like Cleveland after The Decision.

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Yeah right buddy.

If the Nets start out poorly, there’s already a bunch of stud college prospects tantalizing enough for the Celtics to be able to trade that Nets pick in January for an NBA star. Or more likely Danny will just sit tight and draft a Jalen Brown or better, and keep Smart, Olynyk, 2017 pick, 2018 pick etc etc.

Meanwhile, OKC will be drifting like the tumbleweeds, like Cleveland after The Decision.

 

 

 

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Exactly!! Teams on the other line always overvalue their guys, why would you give up 3 contributors and 3 picks for a guy with a foot that will only get worse as his career goes on.. KD is a great talent but the Celtics would have to reach to make that deal.. 2017 draft is in my opinion the best draft in years as good if not better than 08 and slightly behind the Lebron draft.. Im licking my chops if im Ainge cause he has a ton of leverage to enhance his position in that draft.. 

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Exactly!! Teams on the other line always overvalue their guys, why would you give up 3 contributors and 3 picks for a guy with a foot that will only get worse as his career goes on.. KD is a great talent but the Celtics would have to reach to make that deal.. 2017 draft is in my opinion the best draft in years as good if not better than 08 and slightly behind the Lebron draft.. Im licking my chops if im Ainge cause he has a ton of leverage to enhance his position in that draft.. 

[markfitz14Participant]

They have all these assets but it is just really bad timing to have assets that you want to trade for an All Star player. With the salary cap rising teams with rising stars are not going to need to trade them like OKC had to do with Harden becuase they couldnt afford to pay him. They will be able to pay them the extra cap room. Once every player in the league has salaires increased it will happen again and teams will shop all stars. But over the next couple years teams will pay 2 or 3 all stars to stay. I wish OKC would shop KD but they will make a playoff run with 2 of the top 5 players in the Leauge! then try to convince KD to stay if he dosen’t sign before that.

The Kings are the only other team that I see a potentail star being put on the block. And thats a maybe. They prbly would rather try to add more pieces next year.

Plus if the Celts trade the whole team for KD or at least the top pieces he wont want to play there anyway. Becuase I doubt theyd have enough to trade for Boogie still.

 

 

 

 

 

  

[markfitz14Participant]

They have all these assets but it is just really bad timing to have assets that you want to trade for an All Star player. With the salary cap rising teams with rising stars are not going to need to trade them like OKC had to do with Harden becuase they couldnt afford to pay him. They will be able to pay them the extra cap room. Once every player in the league has salaires increased it will happen again and teams will shop all stars. But over the next couple years teams will pay 2 or 3 all stars to stay. I wish OKC would shop KD but they will make a playoff run with 2 of the top 5 players in the Leauge! then try to convince KD to stay if he dosen’t sign before that.

The Kings are the only other team that I see a potentail star being put on the block. And thats a maybe. They prbly would rather try to add more pieces next year.

Plus if the Celts trade the whole team for KD or at least the top pieces he wont want to play there anyway. Becuase I doubt theyd have enough to trade for Boogie still.

 

 

 

 

 

  

[T Rex]

 Realistic trade targets for the Celtics

Rudy Gay. Poor man’s Durant, if the Kings meltdown like Rondo at the FT line.

Tyson Chandler. Alex Len breaking out, needs more playing time, and Danny has close relationship with Suns GM, who sent us IThomas last year.

Al Horford. Last year of his deal, I believe, and they have Splitter and Tavares is rapidly improving.

Roy Hibbert, easy.

Bjelica. Wolves have tons of young players and are tanking anyway.

Brook Lopez. Nets would love to have some draft picks, and trading for Brook would also make the Nets worse in the short term, which would be great for us because we’d be keeping that 2016 pick.

DeAndre Jordan. These guys suddenly loved each other after Jordan said he was signing with the Mavs, but ultimately that Clips team has dubious chemistry, and limited ceiling. Getting good players like Zeller and Sully, plus a young player like James Young and/or Jordan Mickey, plus a draft pick would be enticing for Doc.

Doc seems to be on the hot seat, and shaking up the roster by moving Jordan for great value could help LAC in the short term and the long term. Depth has been their weakness, and they might be better and deeper, with better chemistry, after a Jordan to Boston trade.

But best of all, in my opinion, is to just sit on the picks, make every draft pick, and trade young Stevens coached players on great contracts for future picks, while contending every year at the same time.

Danny’s in position to make the Celtics the Patriots of the NBA, the team that contends every year in part by maintaining a mountain of draft picks every year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Realistic trade targets for the Celtics

Rudy Gay. Poor man’s Durant, if the Kings meltdown like Rondo at the FT line.

Tyson Chandler. Alex Len breaking out, needs more playing time, and Danny has close relationship with Suns GM, who sent us IThomas last year.

Al Horford. Last year of his deal, I believe, and they have Splitter and Tavares is rapidly improving.

Roy Hibbert, easy.

Bjelica. Wolves have tons of young players and are tanking anyway.

Brook Lopez. Nets would love to have some draft picks, and trading for Brook would also make the Nets worse in the short term, which would be great for us because we’d be keeping that 2016 pick.

DeAndre Jordan. These guys suddenly loved each other after Jordan said he was signing with the Mavs, but ultimately that Clips team has dubious chemistry, and limited ceiling. Getting good players like Zeller and Sully, plus a young player like James Young and/or Jordan Mickey, plus a draft pick would be enticing for Doc.

Doc seems to be on the hot seat, and shaking up the roster by moving Jordan for great value could help LAC in the short term and the long term. Depth has been their weakness, and they might be better and deeper, with better chemistry, after a Jordan to Boston trade.

But best of all, in my opinion, is to just sit on the picks, make every draft pick, and trade young Stevens coached players on great contracts for future picks, while contending every year at the same time.

Danny’s in position to make the Celtics the Patriots of the NBA, the team that contends every year in part by maintaining a mountain of draft picks every year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

Rozier-Smart is already looking like a future all star backcourt, and borderline All Star (in the East) Isaiah is locked in for 3 more years at like 7 million per. Same with Avery Bradley. With RJ Hunter looking really good already.

No stars, no future? I see 3 borderline all stars or better, plus another all nba defender in Bradley, plus Hunter.

And that’s just (some of) the back court.

Because James Young, the 6th youngest player in the NBA, is one of the tallest, longest, and strongest shooting guards in the NBA, and he hasn’t even filled out yet. Young is surprisingly quick laterally on defense, now that he has some semblance of an idea what he’s doing. Easy all star potential at SG or SF.

Rozier-Smart-Young could be one of the best starting perimeters in the NBA by next year, to go along with easily the best guard bench in the NBA, locked up for at least 3 more years.

As of right now, minus our awesome pick stockpile, our future starting lineup looks like this:

Rozier-Smart-Young-Amir-Olynyk

Olynyk is dedicated in the weight room, has a solid frame, and is already probably up to 255ish lbs. By next year he’ll be 260-265, and still mobile and agile, and more hostile than ever.

Mickey will be stronger next year as well, and might press Amir for that starting spot.

Same with James Young, he’ll be at least 225 rather than 220 next year, and very well suited to be a starting SF.

And Jae Crowder is still getting better and is a great role playing starter already.

Only real long-term need is a big, decent center for situational matchups. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

Rozier-Smart is already looking like a future all star backcourt, and borderline All Star (in the East) Isaiah is locked in for 3 more years at like 7 million per. Same with Avery Bradley. With RJ Hunter looking really good already.

No stars, no future? I see 3 borderline all stars or better, plus another all nba defender in Bradley, plus Hunter.

And that’s just (some of) the back court.

Because James Young, the 6th youngest player in the NBA, is one of the tallest, longest, and strongest shooting guards in the NBA, and he hasn’t even filled out yet. Young is surprisingly quick laterally on defense, now that he has some semblance of an idea what he’s doing. Easy all star potential at SG or SF.

Rozier-Smart-Young could be one of the best starting perimeters in the NBA by next year, to go along with easily the best guard bench in the NBA, locked up for at least 3 more years.

As of right now, minus our awesome pick stockpile, our future starting lineup looks like this:

Rozier-Smart-Young-Amir-Olynyk

Olynyk is dedicated in the weight room, has a solid frame, and is already probably up to 255ish lbs. By next year he’ll be 260-265, and still mobile and agile, and more hostile than ever.

Mickey will be stronger next year as well, and might press Amir for that starting spot.

Same with James Young, he’ll be at least 225 rather than 220 next year, and very well suited to be a starting SF.

And Jae Crowder is still getting better and is a great role playing starter already.

Only real long-term need is a big, decent center for situational matchups. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 3 boarderline all stars?  So you’re on record as saying Rozier will be a borderline all star?  haha.

You think 5 lbs is the only thinkg holding James Young back from a starting job?  Probably doesn’t have anything to do with him being… I dunno not a good basketball player? He somehow was labeled as a shooter in college because he liked to shoot alot.  Never because he was a good shooter.  He will be a permanent fixture in the D League soon enough.  And to think, they could have Rodney Hood instead….

You must be forgetting how absolutely awful Rozier is as a decision maker.  It’s clear you didn’t watch any collegiate games of his.  As soon as he is asked to do more, or if he is asked to do more it will be so apprarent… I mean not to you because you are blinded by your love for the Celtics but… it will be apparent.  

I can’t believe that you can bolden the line up of Rozier, Smart, Young, Amir and Olynyk as something to be legitimately proud of… when in the West this Celtics team is a 10 -12 seed.

You’re just ridiculous.  The real question is which one of the Celtics would you not let bang you if given the opportunity.

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 3 boarderline all stars?  So you’re on record as saying Rozier will be a borderline all star?  haha.

You think 5 lbs is the only thinkg holding James Young back from a starting job?  Probably doesn’t have anything to do with him being… I dunno not a good basketball player? He somehow was labeled as a shooter in college because he liked to shoot alot.  Never because he was a good shooter.  He will be a permanent fixture in the D League soon enough.  And to think, they could have Rodney Hood instead….

You must be forgetting how absolutely awful Rozier is as a decision maker.  It’s clear you didn’t watch any collegiate games of his.  As soon as he is asked to do more, or if he is asked to do more it will be so apprarent… I mean not to you because you are blinded by your love for the Celtics but… it will be apparent.  

I can’t believe that you can bolden the line up of Rozier, Smart, Young, Amir and Olynyk as something to be legitimately proud of… when in the West this Celtics team is a 10 -12 seed.

You’re just ridiculous.  The real question is which one of the Celtics would you not let bang you if given the opportunity.

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Rozier’s basement is looking like Jeff Teague.

If you actually watched the NBA, rather than psychologically projecting your own homosexual urges, you’d know that Brad Stevens couldn’t care less if his point guard is a true point guard and elite decision maker. You’d know that they love to pass the ball around, and a point guard’s off ball ability is more important than pure point guard ability. And second in importance to excelling off the ball is being able to burst into the paint to create open looks for his teammates.

I’m still waiting for D’Russell to burst into the lane once, let alone dunk.

Dude is D’Immobile, stuck in one place, and only 3rd rate basketball minds like Buss Jr and Byron "Waiters" Scott think playing wheelchair basketball can work with enough swag and Iverson fashion.

And fourth rate minds like yourself believe them, despite all the evidence that has been mounting since day one of summer league.

Russell is even starting to look a little chubby. Swagging ain’t easy, but knowing your weaknesses is even harder for an unoriginal gangsta.

 

[T Rex]

 Rozier’s basement is looking like Jeff Teague.

If you actually watched the NBA, rather than psychologically projecting your own homosexual urges, you’d know that Brad Stevens couldn’t care less if his point guard is a true point guard and elite decision maker. You’d know that they love to pass the ball around, and a point guard’s off ball ability is more important than pure point guard ability. And second in importance to excelling off the ball is being able to burst into the paint to create open looks for his teammates.

I’m still waiting for D’Russell to burst into the lane once, let alone dunk.

Dude is D’Immobile, stuck in one place, and only 3rd rate basketball minds like Buss Jr and Byron "Waiters" Scott think playing wheelchair basketball can work with enough swag and Iverson fashion.

And fourth rate minds like yourself believe them, despite all the evidence that has been mounting since day one of summer league.

Russell is even starting to look a little chubby. Swagging ain’t easy, but knowing your weaknesses is even harder for an unoriginal gangsta.

 

[omphalosParticipant]

 You know who I’d love for the Celtics to pick up? Meyers Leonard.

He can legit shoot 3s, he’s long, athletic and will thrive under Stevens.

He could be a very good player for Boston.

Otherwise I’d be trading something for Miles Plumlee from Milwaukee. He’s big, protects the rim and could be like Robin Lopez in Portland.

 

 

 

 

[omphalosParticipant]

 You know who I’d love for the Celtics to pick up? Meyers Leonard.

He can legit shoot 3s, he’s long, athletic and will thrive under Stevens.

He could be a very good player for Boston.

Otherwise I’d be trading something for Miles Plumlee from Milwaukee. He’s big, protects the rim and could be like Robin Lopez in Portland.

 

 

 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

I look to the teams that have developed talent for what the Celtics can strive to do. You gotta Hope Smart can take the next leap with his game. If you get Lucky one or two other players make a leap into a solid starter. Possibily RJ Hunter as a 3pt sniper and Rozier as an atheltic PG. Maybe a few trades or  a great draft pick who turns into an all star. Just got to keep playing the young guys and then finding a trade partner for a few you have developed for a higher draft pick with more long term potential or even all star potential.

 

  I want to see them keep Smart no matter what. I want to see if he can become an All Star. Hopefully with a top 5 pick(nets) either getting a solid player with it. Or possibily depending on who gets the 1st pick, Trade the nets pick plus the other 2 first rounders for that pick. Somehow The Celts have to find a way to trade 2 for 1 and get that All star talent no matter which way it happens. Trading up in the draft or trading Lee and Bradley for a future 1st. That the future 1st goes into another trade to move up in the draft. 

[markfitz14Participant]

I look to the teams that have developed talent for what the Celtics can strive to do. You gotta Hope Smart can take the next leap with his game. If you get Lucky one or two other players make a leap into a solid starter. Possibily RJ Hunter as a 3pt sniper and Rozier as an atheltic PG. Maybe a few trades or  a great draft pick who turns into an all star. Just got to keep playing the young guys and then finding a trade partner for a few you have developed for a higher draft pick with more long term potential or even all star potential.

 

  I want to see them keep Smart no matter what. I want to see if he can become an All Star. Hopefully with a top 5 pick(nets) either getting a solid player with it. Or possibily depending on who gets the 1st pick, Trade the nets pick plus the other 2 first rounders for that pick. Somehow The Celts have to find a way to trade 2 for 1 and get that All star talent no matter which way it happens. Trading up in the draft or trading Lee and Bradley for a future 1st. That the future 1st goes into another trade to move up in the draft. 

[T Rex]

 Brad Stevens brought Butler to the NCAA Championship game TWICE, and made China star Jordan Crawford the Eastern Conference Player of the Week as a ROOKIE coach.

Let’s just say player development isn’t a big obstacle.

Celtics also had the best or second best fourth quarter team performance in the NBA after the All Star break.

Stevens makes everybody feel like they can hit the big shot in crunch time, and as a result, they can.

So much of the supposed need for a star is this idea that only a star can hit a big shot at the buzzer.

In reality, it’s much better to have five capable, clutch players on the floor, keep the other team guessing, and get a high % shot.

Under Doc Rivers, everybody just stood around while Pierce went iso. The other team knew exactly what was going to happen, exactly how to defend it, and 80-90% of the time, Pierce would miss a step back fadeaway turnaround jumper.

No thanks. Much better to have 5 clutch guys with the confidence of their coach.

Celtics had like 50+ games last year decided by 5 points or less, and they won a large majority of them.

This team is battle tested, battle proven, and the only real weakness is not having a Perk or Mozgov type to come in when situation requires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

I always hated Pierce time when he would just do the same fade away jumper with a hand in his face.

 

  I do agree to a point. To be able to compete in a playoff series with the top teams there needs to be improvement at almost every position. Celtics might not need a Lebron to win a title under Stevens someday but they will need to make some moves to enhance the talent pool he has. So lets say they let Turner and Lee walk at the end of the season. They take the 3 picks next year. Now 3 rookies join the team and get nothing in return. But maybe they trade a young player plus Bradley or Turner and or Lee plus the Dallas pick or both Dallas and Celtics picks to someone for an upgrade or higher draft pick. Some sort of combination how ever could be done. I just think they need to find a way to get maybe one or two top talent while keeping key pieces at the same time. I wouldnt even mind if the talent was young. I actually perfer to watch teams grow. OKC and GS drafted there guys and they matured. Some how Ainge needs to bring in Simmons or another top talent in the draft next year.

[markfitz14Participant]

I always hated Pierce time when he would just do the same fade away jumper with a hand in his face.

 

  I do agree to a point. To be able to compete in a playoff series with the top teams there needs to be improvement at almost every position. Celtics might not need a Lebron to win a title under Stevens someday but they will need to make some moves to enhance the talent pool he has. So lets say they let Turner and Lee walk at the end of the season. They take the 3 picks next year. Now 3 rookies join the team and get nothing in return. But maybe they trade a young player plus Bradley or Turner and or Lee plus the Dallas pick or both Dallas and Celtics picks to someone for an upgrade or higher draft pick. Some sort of combination how ever could be done. I just think they need to find a way to get maybe one or two top talent while keeping key pieces at the same time. I wouldnt even mind if the talent was young. I actually perfer to watch teams grow. OKC and GS drafted there guys and they matured. Some how Ainge needs to bring in Simmons or another top talent in the draft next year.

[T Rex]

 Brad Stevens brought Butler to the NCAA Championship game TWICE, and made China star Jordan Crawford the Eastern Conference Player of the Week as a ROOKIE coach.

Let’s just say player development isn’t a big obstacle.

Celtics also had the best or second best fourth quarter team performance in the NBA after the All Star break.

Stevens makes everybody feel like they can hit the big shot in crunch time, and as a result, they can.

So much of the supposed need for a star is this idea that only a star can hit a big shot at the buzzer.

In reality, it’s much better to have five capable, clutch players on the floor, keep the other team guessing, and get a high % shot.

Under Doc Rivers, everybody just stood around while Pierce went iso. The other team knew exactly what was going to happen, exactly how to defend it, and 80-90% of the time, Pierce would miss a step back fadeaway turnaround jumper.

No thanks. Much better to have 5 clutch guys with the confidence of their coach.

Celtics had like 50+ games last year decided by 5 points or less, and they won a large majority of them.

This team is battle tested, battle proven, and the only real weakness is not having a Perk or Mozgov type to come in when situation requires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Here’s the Terry Rozier missed dunk from last night. He was coming off missing two games, not that he necesarily can dunk from that far all the time:

vine.co/v/e9tiUZOEgEI

But he did dunk from the circle this summer. I think last night he was a step further back than the circle.

youtu.be/mQokJavxZFk

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Here’s the Terry Rozier missed dunk from last night. He was coming off missing two games, not that he necesarily can dunk from that far all the time:

vine.co/v/e9tiUZOEgEI

But he did dunk from the circle this summer. I think last night he was a step further back than the circle.

youtu.be/mQokJavxZFk

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I think Olynyk has the most offensive potential on this team aside from IT. The kid has some serious skills. If his usage increases and as he continues to adjust to the game I see no reason why he can’t score 18-ppg in the future.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I think Olynyk has the most offensive potential on this team aside from IT. The kid has some serious skills. If his usage increases and as he continues to adjust to the game I see no reason why he can’t score 18-ppg in the future.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Boston after the KG and PP trade went into rebuild and I thought Danny Ainge might have looked to create a new big 3 or at least get Rondo a top level running mate via a trade or FA.

But with the team doing better sooner than expected and having moved Rondo, it looks like they are taking stock and seeing how the young guys develop. As said above by numerous guys, Boston have a load of assets in both picks and pieces so could pull off a trade to get a top player in a lot easier than most teams.

They also have cap flexability so have the option to be in the hunt for the right FA.

I don’t think Danny Ainge is in a win now short tem mode, he has a title on his CV, a young team and an excellent young Coach in Brad Stevens. So he can see how the roster develops and who will become key players and then target the right FA.

Rather like the Spurs with Aldridge, I could see Boston narrowing down their list to guys they think they have a legit chance of getting and then make a big push to get them in.

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Boston after the KG and PP trade went into rebuild and I thought Danny Ainge might have looked to create a new big 3 or at least get Rondo a top level running mate via a trade or FA.

But with the team doing better sooner than expected and having moved Rondo, it looks like they are taking stock and seeing how the young guys develop. As said above by numerous guys, Boston have a load of assets in both picks and pieces so could pull off a trade to get a top player in a lot easier than most teams.

They also have cap flexability so have the option to be in the hunt for the right FA.

I don’t think Danny Ainge is in a win now short tem mode, he has a title on his CV, a young team and an excellent young Coach in Brad Stevens. So he can see how the roster develops and who will become key players and then target the right FA.

Rather like the Spurs with Aldridge, I could see Boston narrowing down their list to guys they think they have a legit chance of getting and then make a big push to get them in.

 

 

 

 

[Rip256]

 Plus the odds are in their favour. 

Say 12 current young players and 10 future draft picks. Only 1 needs to blow up to become a star. NBA hates star-less teams so winning without one is impossible.

So theyve basically got an entire draft round of assets. How can there not be a star in the mix?

 

 

[Rip256]

 Plus the odds are in their favour. 

Say 12 current young players and 10 future draft picks. Only 1 needs to blow up to become a star. NBA hates star-less teams so winning without one is impossible.

So theyve basically got an entire draft round of assets. How can there not be a star in the mix?

 

 

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