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  • #64435
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    JordanC20
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     I got him averaging 15.4pts 9.7rebs 5.4asts 1.6stl 0.8blks

    Share your opinion on my stats projection and what you think he might average…if y’all want I’ll do more stat projections for each player.

     

     

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  • #1077788
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    negguary
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    would be some major numbers! For any player let alone a rookie! Sixer fan here btw

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  • #1077681
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    negguary
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    would be some major numbers! For any player let alone a rookie! Sixer fan here btw

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  • #1077794
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     My expectations are more modest. I think he’ll get around 14.5pts, 6 rebounds and 4 assists. 

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  • #1077687
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    Choppy
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     My expectations are more modest. I think he’ll get around 14.5pts, 6 rebounds and 4 assists. 

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  • #1077798
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    I think he’ll put up better assist numbers than scoring or rebounding.

    Firstly, it’s just hard for rookies to get buckets full-stop. They don’t have the experience to deal with different types of defenses, hit rookie walls and have a lot of things they need to work on.  

    As for rebounding, there’s only so many boards to go around and the likes of Okafor, Embiid and Noel are all rebounding machines. Simmons doesn’t really need to crash the boards like a menace 

    However, he’s going to have the ball in his hands an awful low and will get a lot of dimes. He’s only got 50% confidence as a scorer, but 100% confidence as a facilitator. 76ers will be among the lead leaders in pace, and Simmons will be the main playmaker. Guys like Embiid, Noel and Okafor are all natural finishers and I’m sure some of those back-court chumps can hit a few 3’s and run the floor in transition. 

    So my stat projections might seem crazy, but I’m going with:

    35 mpg

    14.5 ppg

    5 rpg

    8.5 apg

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1077691
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    I think he’ll put up better assist numbers than scoring or rebounding.

    Firstly, it’s just hard for rookies to get buckets full-stop. They don’t have the experience to deal with different types of defenses, hit rookie walls and have a lot of things they need to work on.  

    As for rebounding, there’s only so many boards to go around and the likes of Okafor, Embiid and Noel are all rebounding machines. Simmons doesn’t really need to crash the boards like a menace 

    However, he’s going to have the ball in his hands an awful low and will get a lot of dimes. He’s only got 50% confidence as a scorer, but 100% confidence as a facilitator. 76ers will be among the lead leaders in pace, and Simmons will be the main playmaker. Guys like Embiid, Noel and Okafor are all natural finishers and I’m sure some of those back-court chumps can hit a few 3’s and run the floor in transition. 

    So my stat projections might seem crazy, but I’m going with:

    35 mpg

    14.5 ppg

    5 rpg

    8.5 apg

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1077814
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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       8.5 APG?

      The highest APG for a rookie in 20 years?

      That’s more than Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, CP3 and John Wall averaged as rookies. I would be beyond shocked if that happened…

       

       

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    • #1077707
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       8.5 APG?

      The highest APG for a rookie in 20 years?

      That’s more than Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, CP3 and John Wall averaged as rookies. I would be beyond shocked if that happened…

       

       

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      • #1077816
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         I also think he will average a triple double one season, or close to it.

        The closest guys are Lebron, Draymond and Westbrook, and Id give the rebounding and passing edge to Simmons in both those categories.

         

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      • #1077709
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         I also think he will average a triple double one season, or close to it.

        The closest guys are Lebron, Draymond and Westbrook, and Id give the rebounding and passing edge to Simmons in both those categories.

         

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    • #1077830
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      Now who’s overrating Sixers players? Sorry Hype but there is no way he averages 8.5 assist for a full season. He would have to be one of the greatest play makers of all times, and even if he is he still only has Okafor as a legit NBA scorer to work with. Not going to happen.

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    • #1077723
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      Now who’s overrating Sixers players? Sorry Hype but there is no way he averages 8.5 assist for a full season. He would have to be one of the greatest play makers of all times, and even if he is he still only has Okafor as a legit NBA scorer to work with. Not going to happen.

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      • #1077834
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        Lol, it appears I’m no better than the 76ers fans. 

        Nonetheless, the bold prediction stands.

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      • #1077727
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        Hype Machine

        Lol, it appears I’m no better than the 76ers fans. 

        Nonetheless, the bold prediction stands.

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    • #1077846
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      he_gets_buckets
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       +1 for the bold prediction, be sure to make a thread about this in a years time if he does blow us all away 

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    • #1077739
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      he_gets_buckets
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       +1 for the bold prediction, be sure to make a thread about this in a years time if he does blow us all away 

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  • #1077804
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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     I can’t wait to see him in summer league. I wish Embiid was playing.

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  • #1077697
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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     I can’t wait to see him in summer league. I wish Embiid was playing.

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  • #1077808
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     my guess is the scoring wont be so dominant, but ido expect him to stuff the boxscore

    ill go with: 13.2ppg…7.9rpg…5.1apg

     

     

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  • #1077701
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     my guess is the scoring wont be so dominant, but ido expect him to stuff the boxscore

    ill go with: 13.2ppg…7.9rpg…5.1apg

     

     

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  • #1077810
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    He’s not a scorer and everyone will play him for the pass. As it stands, Okafor Noel and Embiid are all on the roster, so I don’t know how many boards there are to go around. Philly fans may be upset with Evan Turner type rookie numbers, but I think you need to really manage some expectations. Box scores aren’t everything. 

    I think Philly will win 10-12 more games. Expecting Simmons will be a capable defender, get around 12 on around 50% FG, 5reb and 4ast, any more would be impressive considering the situation. 

     

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  • #1077703
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    He’s not a scorer and everyone will play him for the pass. As it stands, Okafor Noel and Embiid are all on the roster, so I don’t know how many boards there are to go around. Philly fans may be upset with Evan Turner type rookie numbers, but I think you need to really manage some expectations. Box scores aren’t everything. 

    I think Philly will win 10-12 more games. Expecting Simmons will be a capable defender, get around 12 on around 50% FG, 5reb and 4ast, any more would be impressive considering the situation. 

     

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    • #1077812
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       16p 10r 6a is what i think he could average but who knows, maybe less points. But i definitely think he’ll get boards thats where he’s most dangerous at, rebound and go.

      Its not like your gonna play Simmons, Okafor, Embiid and Noel all at the same time. 

       

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    • #1077705
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       16p 10r 6a is what i think he could average but who knows, maybe less points. But i definitely think he’ll get boards thats where he’s most dangerous at, rebound and go.

      Its not like your gonna play Simmons, Okafor, Embiid and Noel all at the same time. 

       

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  • #1077832
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    Endlessknight
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    I’m going to go with 15p 5r 3.5a. I think just about everyone’s assist totals are way out of whack. He only has one legit NBA score on his team.

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  • #1077725
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    I’m going to go with 15p 5r 3.5a. I think just about everyone’s assist totals are way out of whack. He only has one legit NBA score on his team.

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    • #1077850
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       I dont see it, he averaged 5 assists in college in cramped disorganised offence. He goes to the NBA with better spacing, better shooters and a free flowing offence and only averages 3.5 assists??? Even with phillys roster right now he’ll give you 5 assists every night. 

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    • #1077743
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       I dont see it, he averaged 5 assists in college in cramped disorganised offence. He goes to the NBA with better spacing, better shooters and a free flowing offence and only averages 3.5 assists??? Even with phillys roster right now he’ll give you 5 assists every night. 

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  • #1077844
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    I think he’ll put up similar numbers to what MCW put up. Something along the lines of 16/5/5 seems reasonable, he’s about as good as MCW was as slashing and just as inept at outside shooting at this stage, though who knows how much he’ll improve over the offseason. I don’t see him getting these gaudy rebound and assist numbers in his rookie year, especially with the team thats around him. There’s very few shooters on that roster, namely Stauskas and Covington, Noel is extremeley suspect on the offensive end, we still have no idea what value Embiid holds at this level. Jahlil is the only consistent scoring threat on this team that he has to pass to. I just don’t see him being able to put up the highest rookie assist numbers in 20 years as pointed out above with a team so bereft of talent offensively. For sure in a few years I can see him putting up close to double digit assists but it’ll take some development from the players around him and his own game too.

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  • #1077737
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    I think he’ll put up similar numbers to what MCW put up. Something along the lines of 16/5/5 seems reasonable, he’s about as good as MCW was as slashing and just as inept at outside shooting at this stage, though who knows how much he’ll improve over the offseason. I don’t see him getting these gaudy rebound and assist numbers in his rookie year, especially with the team thats around him. There’s very few shooters on that roster, namely Stauskas and Covington, Noel is extremeley suspect on the offensive end, we still have no idea what value Embiid holds at this level. Jahlil is the only consistent scoring threat on this team that he has to pass to. I just don’t see him being able to put up the highest rookie assist numbers in 20 years as pointed out above with a team so bereft of talent offensively. For sure in a few years I can see him putting up close to double digit assists but it’ll take some development from the players around him and his own game too.

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    • #1077777
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      negguary
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      better than mcw right now! so why is it so far fetched???

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      • #1078084
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         Because he doesn’t have above average players around him like Evan Turner, Thaddeus Young and Spencer Hawes to pass to, as outlined above he has one other scoring threat on the team in Jahlil then a bunch of highly question marked guys. If LeBron could only just put up 6 assists a game in his rookie year with Carlos Boozer, Ricky Davis and Ilgauskas on his team, do you really see Simmons averaging 8+ on a team with one above average finisher on the roster?

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      • #1077977
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         Because he doesn’t have above average players around him like Evan Turner, Thaddeus Young and Spencer Hawes to pass to, as outlined above he has one other scoring threat on the team in Jahlil then a bunch of highly question marked guys. If LeBron could only just put up 6 assists a game in his rookie year with Carlos Boozer, Ricky Davis and Ilgauskas on his team, do you really see Simmons averaging 8+ on a team with one above average finisher on the roster?

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    • #1077884
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      negguary
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      better than mcw right now! so why is it so far fetched???

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  • #1077852
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    FullCourtPress
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     Can someone tell my why most of the comments on here have Simmons averaging 5 – 6 rebounds a night?? He averaged just under 12 in college, why is 9 – 10 rebounds a night not reasonable?? Its not like he’ll be guarding on the perimeter, Brett Brown has already said he’ll be guarding 4s in the NBA with the ability to switch in defensive schemes. 

    So if he’s defending 4s does everyone really think he’ll only grab 5 – 6 rebounds a night?

     

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  • #1077745
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     Can someone tell my why most of the comments on here have Simmons averaging 5 – 6 rebounds a night?? He averaged just under 12 in college, why is 9 – 10 rebounds a night not reasonable?? Its not like he’ll be guarding on the perimeter, Brett Brown has already said he’ll be guarding 4s in the NBA with the ability to switch in defensive schemes. 

    So if he’s defending 4s does everyone really think he’ll only grab 5 – 6 rebounds a night?

     

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  • #1077858
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     He avg 20 as a freshman shooting 56%  To think hes not a scorer cuz his shot isnt great is absurd.

     

    Hell probably avg around 17, 7 n 5.

     

    He could  avg more rebounds but with Embiid, Jah and Noels he wont need to

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1077751
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     He avg 20 as a freshman shooting 56%  To think hes not a scorer cuz his shot isnt great is absurd.

     

    Hell probably avg around 17, 7 n 5.

     

    He could  avg more rebounds but with Embiid, Jah and Noels he wont need to

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1077866
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    his assists will be 50% less than they should be due to balls bouncing off Noel’s mittens and the rest of the team clanking jumpers !!

     

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  • #1077759
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    his assists will be 50% less than they should be due to balls bouncing off Noel’s mittens and the rest of the team clanking jumpers !!

     

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  • #1077769
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     I can see his stats quite similar to MCW’s rookie year but with less steals. say 16ppg 6rpg 6apg around 1 steal and almost a block per game.

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  • #1077876
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     I can see his stats quite similar to MCW’s rookie year but with less steals. say 16ppg 6rpg 6apg around 1 steal and almost a block per game.

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  • #1077801
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     After looking at this thread, I looked at LeBron’s rookie stats.

    He averaged a lot of points (20.9) but not much rebounds or assists.  Only 5.4 rebounds and 5.0 assists.

    I think Penny averaged 16, 6, and 6 as a rookie.

    Checking official stats:  ok, 16.0, 5.4 rebounds, 6.6 assists.

    Rookie Grant Hill:  19.9 points, 6.4 rebounds, 5.0 assists.

    Let’s split the difference a bit:

    I will go with 17.5 points, 6.5 rebounds, and 6 assists.

    Now that I think about it, I think those were pretty close to Magic Johnson’s rookie year stats.

    Ok, Magic averaged 18.0 points, 7.7 rebounds, and 7.3 assists as a rookie.  Not bad, kid.

    I will stick with Ben Simmons’ at 17.5, 6.5, and 6 assists.  Scoring pretty well.  Rebounding very well, although as some said here, Noel, Okafor, and the eternal hope known as Joel Embiid will grab some of Ben’s rebounds.  Also, Simmons’ assist totals will probably be a bit deflated since the team lacks a lot of shooting, and although I can see plenty of alley oops going to Noel and Embiid, a back to the basket low post scorer like Okafor might masage the ball for a while before scoring (thus, fewer assists).

    SHOULD be enough production to get him the ROY award.  I am going with him being an All Star next season, too.

    Would I be SHOCKED if the 3 starting front court players next season are LeBron, Carmelo, and Ben Simmons?  Not really.  Although I think Paul George will have something to say about that.  And, probably Porzingas, too.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1077837
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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       Good post. Sorry to be pedantic but Lebron actually averaged 5.5 RPG and 5.9 APG as a rookie.

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    • #1077944
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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       Good post. Sorry to be pedantic but Lebron actually averaged 5.5 RPG and 5.9 APG as a rookie.

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  • #1077908
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     After looking at this thread, I looked at LeBron’s rookie stats.

    He averaged a lot of points (20.9) but not much rebounds or assists.  Only 5.4 rebounds and 5.0 assists.

    I think Penny averaged 16, 6, and 6 as a rookie.

    Checking official stats:  ok, 16.0, 5.4 rebounds, 6.6 assists.

    Rookie Grant Hill:  19.9 points, 6.4 rebounds, 5.0 assists.

    Let’s split the difference a bit:

    I will go with 17.5 points, 6.5 rebounds, and 6 assists.

    Now that I think about it, I think those were pretty close to Magic Johnson’s rookie year stats.

    Ok, Magic averaged 18.0 points, 7.7 rebounds, and 7.3 assists as a rookie.  Not bad, kid.

    I will stick with Ben Simmons’ at 17.5, 6.5, and 6 assists.  Scoring pretty well.  Rebounding very well, although as some said here, Noel, Okafor, and the eternal hope known as Joel Embiid will grab some of Ben’s rebounds.  Also, Simmons’ assist totals will probably be a bit deflated since the team lacks a lot of shooting, and although I can see plenty of alley oops going to Noel and Embiid, a back to the basket low post scorer like Okafor might masage the ball for a while before scoring (thus, fewer assists).

    SHOULD be enough production to get him the ROY award.  I am going with him being an All Star next season, too.

    Would I be SHOCKED if the 3 starting front court players next season are LeBron, Carmelo, and Ben Simmons?  Not really.  Although I think Paul George will have something to say about that.  And, probably Porzingas, too.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1077805
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    If they made a trade to clear that logjam i was thinking 16, 9, and 5. But since they havent, i say 14, 6, and 5 with him leading the team in assists

    He’s gonna have to start at SF, shooting be damned, and he’ll probably play PG on offense.

    starting squad: Canaan, Stauskas (or 1 of the Euros), Simmons, Okafor, Noel (Embid off the bench with minutes restrictions)

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    If they made a trade to clear that logjam i was thinking 16, 9, and 5. But since they havent, i say 14, 6, and 5 with him leading the team in assists

    He’s gonna have to start at SF, shooting be damned, and he’ll probably play PG on offense.

    starting squad: Canaan, Stauskas (or 1 of the Euros), Simmons, Okafor, Noel (Embid off the bench with minutes restrictions)

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  • #1078074
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    16ppg

    8.2rpg

    5.6apg

    He will win rookie of the year. Brandon Ingram started slow at Duke and I think we could see a slow start with the lakers to. Probably coming around by January. Ingram will score as much as simmons without as much of a well rounded stat line. 

     Most of Simmons points off transition and secondary breaks as a rookie. He doesnt shoot many jumpers but im sure for development purposes he will be encouraged to do so. Hes a gifted athlete in transition with great vision. I think he will compare to the greek freak as a rookie and will have a very similar stat line to his. 

    I also think his rebounds will be based off what position he defends. If hes defending away from the basket, then that takes away some positioning. Coach Brown said he sees him defending fours and being able to switch on to guards in pick and rolls if needed. One stat that usually always translates from level to level is rebounding. I dont see him getting 12 a game obiously but I would think he could get 8rpg just being a 6’10 long athlete who will play 35mpg. The greek freak this past season averaged 16.9ppg, 4.3apg and 7.7rpg. I would say he would be on par with that as a rookie.  Giannis shot 25.7% from the 3 and ended up with an overall 50.6% from the floor.. Simmons has a legit NBA body outweighing the greek freak by 20lbs as well. 

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    16ppg

    8.2rpg

    5.6apg

    He will win rookie of the year. Brandon Ingram started slow at Duke and I think we could see a slow start with the lakers to. Probably coming around by January. Ingram will score as much as simmons without as much of a well rounded stat line. 

     Most of Simmons points off transition and secondary breaks as a rookie. He doesnt shoot many jumpers but im sure for development purposes he will be encouraged to do so. Hes a gifted athlete in transition with great vision. I think he will compare to the greek freak as a rookie and will have a very similar stat line to his. 

    I also think his rebounds will be based off what position he defends. If hes defending away from the basket, then that takes away some positioning. Coach Brown said he sees him defending fours and being able to switch on to guards in pick and rolls if needed. One stat that usually always translates from level to level is rebounding. I dont see him getting 12 a game obiously but I would think he could get 8rpg just being a 6’10 long athlete who will play 35mpg. The greek freak this past season averaged 16.9ppg, 4.3apg and 7.7rpg. I would say he would be on par with that as a rookie.  Giannis shot 25.7% from the 3 and ended up with an overall 50.6% from the floor.. Simmons has a legit NBA body outweighing the greek freak by 20lbs as well. 

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  • #1078088
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    mirroring Lamar Odoms rookie stat line of 16.6 pts 7.8 rebs and 4.2 assist even though Odom shot more 3s(36%) than Simmons probably will, I can see Simmons getting to the line more. If hes lucky one maybe 1.5 more assist

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    mirroring Lamar Odoms rookie stat line of 16.6 pts 7.8 rebs and 4.2 assist even though Odom shot more 3s(36%) than Simmons probably will, I can see Simmons getting to the line more. If hes lucky one maybe 1.5 more assist

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  • #1078110
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    -One thing that is does translate to the NBA from college is rebounding, and Ben Simmons was a terrific college rebounder.

    -I’ll be able to make a more solid projection as their roster fills out post free agency, and I get a glimpse of his role in pre-season, but my early prediction is….

    17.5 ppg 7.2 rpg 4.1 apg 1.5 spg – 44% FG / 25% 3PT / 66% FT

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    -One thing that is does translate to the NBA from college is rebounding, and Ben Simmons was a terrific college rebounder.

    -I’ll be able to make a more solid projection as their roster fills out post free agency, and I get a glimpse of his role in pre-season, but my early prediction is….

    17.5 ppg 7.2 rpg 4.1 apg 1.5 spg – 44% FG / 25% 3PT / 66% FT

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      negguary
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      Those are numbers that will get you a max contract today!! LOL sixers fan here btw

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      negguary
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      Those are numbers that will get you a max contract today!! LOL sixers fan here btw

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  • #1078112
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     From the looks of the posts here Simmions should be a lock for ROY without a doubt, anything less would be a complete failure. People are comparing Simmions to LBJ, Penny and Magic’s rookie season. 

    Simmions will have the keys to the offense. After reading this thread anything less then a historic year will be a disapointment. No pressure Ben

     

     

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     From the looks of the posts here Simmions should be a lock for ROY without a doubt, anything less would be a complete failure. People are comparing Simmions to LBJ, Penny and Magic’s rookie season. 

    Simmions will have the keys to the offense. After reading this thread anything less then a historic year will be a disapointment. No pressure Ben

     

     

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