[BallerScriptParticipant]

Ben Simmons – Scottie Pippen

Reasons:

1. Both very athletic wing players
2. Both great rebounders
3. Both have some point forward tendecies 
4. Both are good passers (Ben Simmons is a bit better though)
5. Both have a high basketball I.Q
6. Both can play the 3 and 4

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I believe he’s an slightly more athletic Lamar Odom. 

Your comparison to Scottie Pippon can be said about anybody in the league that can switch to the power forward position. Off the top of my head I can name a couple of players that have a lot of those similarities as the ones you described. You can see those same comparisons in Nic Batum, Greek Freak, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Luol Deng, Jabari Parker, Paul Pierce, and some more that’s not at the top of my head.

 

 

 

 

[whiteflashParticipant]

 That’s exactly what he is, a young slightly more athletic Odom. People comparing him to G. Hill and Magic are obviously too young to have seen ’em in their primes. People also forget that Odom was the #1 prospect in the country and was being called "The New Magic" by Slam magazine. I like Simmons game, and think he projects better than Odom ’cause he seems like he takes the game more seriously, but make no mistake, Lamar Odom was a beast. His relative lack of success had nothing to do with basketball ability, it had to do with him being a fruitcake and not putting in the work to be great. Think Simmons WILL put in that work. So basically, he’s Lamar Odom with his head screwed on straight.

[whiteflashParticipant]

 That’s exactly what he is, a young slightly more athletic Odom. People comparing him to G. Hill and Magic are obviously too young to have seen ’em in their primes. People also forget that Odom was the #1 prospect in the country and was being called "The New Magic" by Slam magazine. I like Simmons game, and think he projects better than Odom ’cause he seems like he takes the game more seriously, but make no mistake, Lamar Odom was a beast. His relative lack of success had nothing to do with basketball ability, it had to do with him being a fruitcake and not putting in the work to be great. Think Simmons WILL put in that work. So basically, he’s Lamar Odom with his head screwed on straight.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I believe he’s an slightly more athletic Lamar Odom. 

Your comparison to Scottie Pippon can be said about anybody in the league that can switch to the power forward position. Off the top of my head I can name a couple of players that have a lot of those similarities as the ones you described. You can see those same comparisons in Nic Batum, Greek Freak, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Luol Deng, Jabari Parker, Paul Pierce, and some more that’s not at the top of my head.

 

 

 

 

[JR RyderParticipant]

Reminds me of Grant Hill.

[MopgrassParticipant]

 More fluid than Hill, but likely a lesser rebounder. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 More fluid than Hill, but likely a lesser rebounder. 

[JR RyderParticipant]

Reminds me of Grant Hill.

[Rip255]

 I’m going with Magic Johnson.

Supreme Passing, ball handling

High IQ, A winner, natural leadership

Average Shooting, similar size

No look passes, finishing with either hand around the rim, body control

Coast to Coast ability…a nightmare in transition

Both can/have played any position from 1-5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rip255]

 I’m going with Magic Johnson.

Supreme Passing, ball handling

High IQ, A winner, natural leadership

Average Shooting, similar size

No look passes, finishing with either hand around the rim, body control

Coast to Coast ability…a nightmare in transition

Both can/have played any position from 1-5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 haven’t seen a full game of him yet, but I am so excited to watch this LSU team this year. Usually when people throw out names like Pippen and Hill I laugh, but everything I’ve read says he is the real deal. Just saw LSU has a 6’6 PG too. They are going to be huge.

[ChewyParticipant]

 haven’t seen a full game of him yet, but I am so excited to watch this LSU team this year. Usually when people throw out names like Pippen and Hill I laugh, but everything I’ve read says he is the real deal. Just saw LSU has a 6’6 PG too. They are going to be huge.

[chaParticipant]

 mix between Grant Hill and Lamar Odom.

He’s got Lamar Odom’s versatility and size and he has the mental makeup and similar hops of a Grant Hill that will enable him to make a bigger impact than Odom. 

 

[chaParticipant]

 mix between Grant Hill and Lamar Odom.

He’s got Lamar Odom’s versatility and size and he has the mental makeup and similar hops of a Grant Hill that will enable him to make a bigger impact than Odom. 

 

[adumParticipant]

 Joe Alexander but a better passer, athlete and flat out smarter player.

Other then that they are close.

[adumParticipant]

 Joe Alexander but a better passer, athlete and flat out smarter player.

Other then that they are close.

[whiteflashParticipant]

 Joe Alexander was an absolute freak athlete. Simmons is NOWHERE NEAR as athletic as Alexander. He’s a much better basketball player though.

[whiteflashParticipant]

 Joe Alexander was an absolute freak athlete. Simmons is NOWHERE NEAR as athletic as Alexander. He’s a much better basketball player though.

[adumParticipant]

 Looool it was obviously sarcasm. I don’t think it’s fair to give him a comp yet. At least let him play a college game first.

[adumParticipant]

 Looool it was obviously sarcasm. I don’t think it’s fair to give him a comp yet. At least let him play a college game first.

[Rip255]

 Is there some kind of unwritten rule that states prospects cant be compared to all-time greats?

When was a young player ever compared to a top 20 all-time great on this site?

Only all time great Ive ever seen anyone compared to is Embiid/Olajuwon….and if hes top 20 then only just…

Several times a decade….a truly great player comes along. You cats are terrible at predicting them though.

 

 

 

 

[Rip255]

 Is there some kind of unwritten rule that states prospects cant be compared to all-time greats?

When was a young player ever compared to a top 20 all-time great on this site?

Only all time great Ive ever seen anyone compared to is Embiid/Olajuwon….and if hes top 20 then only just…

Several times a decade….a truly great player comes along. You cats are terrible at predicting them though.

 

 

 

 

[Buckets21Participant]

Deshawn Stevenson was compared to Michael Jordan by this site. Scottie pippen and Magic Johnson were used as comparisons in this very thread. I think you could easily argue too many players are compared to all time greats rather than the average players a lot of them end up being . 

[Buckets21Participant]

Deshawn Stevenson was compared to Michael Jordan by this site. Scottie pippen and Magic Johnson were used as comparisons in this very thread. I think you could easily argue too many players are compared to all time greats rather than the average players a lot of them end up being . 

[Rip255]

 I was the one that compared him to Magic and Scottie Pippen would barely crack the top 30 players all time.

No one gets seriously compared to MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Bird, Kareem etc. If they do…its a ‘poor mans’ version or theyre only comparing some aspects of their game.

Occasionally a 15yo gets compared to greats like Thon Maker and KD…but never NCAA players.

I reckon people are too scared of being accused of jumping on the hype train. If youre not….who is the next megastar comparison?

 

 

[Rip255]

 I was the one that compared him to Magic and Scottie Pippen would barely crack the top 30 players all time.

No one gets seriously compared to MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Bird, Kareem etc. If they do…its a ‘poor mans’ version or theyre only comparing some aspects of their game.

Occasionally a 15yo gets compared to greats like Thon Maker and KD…but never NCAA players.

I reckon people are too scared of being accused of jumping on the hype train. If youre not….who is the next megastar comparison?

 

 

[sweaterflexParticipant]

 It is more difficult to compare new stars to previous greats the more the game changes. The NBA has had maybe 5 transcendent stars drafted in the last 15 years, and by and large they are fairly unique. LeBron was compared to Magic and MJ, a pretty unprecedented combo. Durant is occasionally compared to George Gervin, but no 6"10 player has ever possessed his natural scoring ability from the perimeter. Curry is maybe vaguely like Pistol Pete, but even that barely does his pull up 3s justice. Anthony Davis may be the most freakish, his efficiency is most similar to a combination of young Kareem and young Amare. The only player who has an easy comparison is Chris Paul, the perfect (if common) undersized floor general. Maybe DeAndre Ayton is compared to David Robinson, but I suspect the next game-changing star will be so successful because he is incomparable.

[sweaterflexParticipant]

 It is more difficult to compare new stars to previous greats the more the game changes. The NBA has had maybe 5 transcendent stars drafted in the last 15 years, and by and large they are fairly unique. LeBron was compared to Magic and MJ, a pretty unprecedented combo. Durant is occasionally compared to George Gervin, but no 6"10 player has ever possessed his natural scoring ability from the perimeter. Curry is maybe vaguely like Pistol Pete, but even that barely does his pull up 3s justice. Anthony Davis may be the most freakish, his efficiency is most similar to a combination of young Kareem and young Amare. The only player who has an easy comparison is Chris Paul, the perfect (if common) undersized floor general. Maybe DeAndre Ayton is compared to David Robinson, but I suspect the next game-changing star will be so successful because he is incomparable.

[Rip255]

Simmons just dropped another 26pts, 5 rebs, 8ast against the Sydney Kings…the pro team from Australias biggest city (pop 5mil)

Averaging 24, 8 & 6 so far on tour. 

LSU getting great experience and have been super impressive.

Not much coverage from this site…but Rip n Run has your back.

[Rip255]

Simmons just dropped another 26pts, 5 rebs, 8ast against the Sydney Kings…the pro team from Australias biggest city (pop 5mil)

Averaging 24, 8 & 6 so far on tour. 

LSU getting great experience and have been super impressive.

Not much coverage from this site…but Rip n Run has your back.

[bumbleb33Participant]

 simmons’ salary in his rookie year will be 5x the salary cap of the kings team

[bumbleb33Participant]

 simmons’ salary in his rookie year will be 5x the salary cap of the kings team

[Rip255]

 But his current Salary is $0

[Rip255]

 But his current Salary is $0

[bumbleb33Participant]

 pippen is a vastly superior defender. ben simmons looks OK on defense but he will never be a great lockdown defender, especially in the post because of his relatively short arms

[bumbleb33Participant]

 pippen is a vastly superior defender. ben simmons looks OK on defense but he will never be a great lockdown defender, especially in the post because of his relatively short arms

[JR RyderParticipant]

Size, skill set, athletecism. Simmons is the closest thing to a young Grant Hill that I have seen.

Grant Hill
https://youtu.be/BP16tRyYnlU

Ben Simmons
https://youtu.be/n3ldh0EBHn0

[JR RyderParticipant]

Size, skill set, athletecism. Simmons is the closest thing to a young Grant Hill that I have seen.

Grant Hill
https://youtu.be/BP16tRyYnlU

Ben Simmons
https://youtu.be/n3ldh0EBHn0

[BKGingerSnapParticipant]

Chris Webber level talent. Both can do everything on the court.

[BKGingerSnapParticipant]

Chris Webber level talent. Both can do everything on the court.

[HitsterParticipant]

 I don’t see the Magic comparison, Magic was a legit great PG who just happened to be about 6ft 9ins. Simmons is a combo forward who may be a point forward type player. Often the best player on the team if he is an SF or occasionally a PF can lead the team on assists if they don’t have a stand out PG. LBJ has often done this, that is the only way I could see people comparing Simmons to a PG like Magic.

I never saw Grant Hill play at 18/19 years old so I cannot compare that he was like then to Simmons but I still like the Lemar Odom as a resonable mid level comparision for Simmons with maybe Hill as the upside.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 I don’t see the Magic comparison, Magic was a legit great PG who just happened to be about 6ft 9ins. Simmons is a combo forward who may be a point forward type player. Often the best player on the team if he is an SF or occasionally a PF can lead the team on assists if they don’t have a stand out PG. LBJ has often done this, that is the only way I could see people comparing Simmons to a PG like Magic.

I never saw Grant Hill play at 18/19 years old so I cannot compare that he was like then to Simmons but I still like the Lemar Odom as a resonable mid level comparision for Simmons with maybe Hill as the upside.

 

[RigelzParticipant]

To me it’s very diffcult… i don’t know, even if i could agree with Lamar comparison…. the worst thing i’ve heard i’ve about this guy is "a taller Lebron", not in this forum….

[Rip255]

I neither agree nor disagree with that statement

However thats who Chad Ford compared him to in his latest big board. Altho Ford seems to lack credibility by some in these parts.

Simmons says he models his game after LBJ too.

 

 

 

[RigelzParticipant]

I forgot the real worst part.. that "scout" said: "a taller and MORE ATHLETIC Lebron"

[RigelzParticipant]

I forgot the real worst part.. that "scout" said: "a taller and MORE ATHLETIC Lebron"

[Rip255]

I neither agree nor disagree with that statement

However thats who Chad Ford compared him to in his latest big board. Altho Ford seems to lack credibility by some in these parts.

Simmons says he models his game after LBJ too.

 

 

 

[RigelzParticipant]

To me it’s very diffcult… i don’t know, even if i could agree with Lamar comparison…. the worst thing i’ve heard i’ve about this guy is "a taller Lebron", not in this forum….

[RecoveringVegetarianParticipant]

 Hey now!! He reminds me of a black Def Shremphf..

[RecoveringVegetarianParticipant]

 Hey now!! He reminds me of a black Def Shremphf..

[Rip255]

 hmm…hes not really that black.

I was thinking a white Larry bird?

 

[Rip255]

 hmm…hes not really that black.

I was thinking a white Larry bird?

 

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