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  • #31099
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    rydawgsw
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     I’m not too happy with our draft.. let me explain

    #1 Kyrie Irving – I’m fine with this pick.. Consensus #1 and a solid PG..

    #4 Tristan Thompson – I’ve seen him play a few times, watched a lot of highlights.. I think he’ll transition into a pretty solid PF in this league, mainly because of his ability to defend and rebound the basketball.. Offensively is pretty unpolished, but potential is there.. HOWEVER, why did we need a PF here? We already have Hickson who is a 4, Varejao who is more of a 5, but sometimes slides to the 4. Samuels was decent for us last season and is worth keeping around as a backup 5.. So why did we create a logjam downlow when our OBVIOUS needs are the 2 and 3 spots?

    #32 Justin Harper – What’s unfortunate is that I actually like this pick (again, minus the logjam downlow), because Harper is a stretch 4 and I feel he’ll be a solid contributor off the bench in the NBA.. but then we trade it.. Why? What good is "two future second rounders" going to do when we need IMMEDIATE HELP! We were the second worst team in the league for a reason, why are we trading the 32nd pick for two future picks (that will likely be in the 50s+ considering Orlando will always win a decent amount with Howard there).. We could have drafted someone here to be a solid role player off the bench, but instead just trade it away.. Such a mistake

    #54 Milan Macvan – Do I really need to get into this? First off, draft another damn big guy which makes no sense. Two, you know what.. I’m not going to get into this.. This site compares him to Brian Cardinal.. While I like what The Custodian did in his limited time for the Mavs, come on.. We want a 6’9 260 Euro? Erden wasn’t enough I guess? Such a wasted pick when a guy like ohhhh I dunno, DAVID LIGHTY is on the damn board.. We don’t need help at the 2 or 3 spots or anything.. 

     

    Overall, just SMH.. Could it have been worse? Obviously. Could it have been better? Yes. I just don’t feel like we truly ‘addressed our needs’.. Plus, we still have the trade exception, 3 point guards, and about 19 PF’s, so I pray to god we trade something soon to help us out at the 2/3.. If not, I might consider jumping off a bridge..

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  • #554079
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    Scottoant93
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    I was thinking the same thing, I though they had a deal in line to trade down, I guess not. The draft is over maybe they will still use him or hickson as a piece to get a veteran

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  • #554123
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    Scottoant93
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    I was thinking the same thing, I though they had a deal in line to trade down, I guess not. The draft is over maybe they will still use him or hickson as a piece to get a veteran

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  • #554087
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    rileymcshea3
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     Justin Harper is going to Orlando now and With the 4th pick you dont draft on teem need you draft on how good you think a guy will be and i guess they thought Tristan Thompson will be there best option. I think he wasnt the best option but he will fit in perfect with Kyrie in the feature he kinda has Derrick Williams’s high motor and ability to cut to the basket and with Kyrie thats a good duo also they need the defense and rebounding .They can get the offense in next years draft because we know they will be in the top 5 again and maybe land Harrison Barns

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  • #554131
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    rileymcshea3
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     Justin Harper is going to Orlando now and With the 4th pick you dont draft on teem need you draft on how good you think a guy will be and i guess they thought Tristan Thompson will be there best option. I think he wasnt the best option but he will fit in perfect with Kyrie in the feature he kinda has Derrick Williams’s high motor and ability to cut to the basket and with Kyrie thats a good duo also they need the defense and rebounding .They can get the offense in next years draft because we know they will be in the top 5 again and maybe land Harrison Barns

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  • #554112
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    kobyz
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    i think the Brian Cardinal comparison for Milan Macvan is a reach, Macvan is slower(yes it’s possible) with less shot!

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  • #554158
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    kobyz
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    i think the Brian Cardinal comparison for Milan Macvan is a reach, Macvan is slower(yes it’s possible) with less shot!

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  • #554118
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    willie wise fan
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    yeah it wasnt very good. if i was the cavs i would have selected irving 1 then pick 4 the 2s or 3s avaliable was alec burks, klay thompson at 2 and really no 3s unless you consider vesely a 3 . so thompson wasnt a bad pick but i think jonas would have been better but he may take many years to both be nba ready and play in the nba because of buyout. 

    now if they would have picked williams 1 then that would have oppened up options as most likely kanter would go 2 and 3 would be irving then they could take knight. ( this only works well if williams can play 3 effectively to fill need

    2nd round i would have picked either honeycott or jeremy tyler both would fill a need and the guy at 56 seems to have talent . he has 23 points 14 rebounds and 6 assists in hoops summit but if he never comes to nba its a stupid wasted pick.  yes lighty was a much better option considering 3 of the 4 players we drafted are power fowards when we already have harangody, hickson, varejao, samuels, jamison

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  • #554163
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    willie wise fan
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    yeah it wasnt very good. if i was the cavs i would have selected irving 1 then pick 4 the 2s or 3s avaliable was alec burks, klay thompson at 2 and really no 3s unless you consider vesely a 3 . so thompson wasnt a bad pick but i think jonas would have been better but he may take many years to both be nba ready and play in the nba because of buyout. 

    now if they would have picked williams 1 then that would have oppened up options as most likely kanter would go 2 and 3 would be irving then they could take knight. ( this only works well if williams can play 3 effectively to fill need

    2nd round i would have picked either honeycott or jeremy tyler both would fill a need and the guy at 56 seems to have talent . he has 23 points 14 rebounds and 6 assists in hoops summit but if he never comes to nba its a stupid wasted pick.  yes lighty was a much better option considering 3 of the 4 players we drafted are power fowards when we already have harangody, hickson, varejao, samuels, jamison

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  • #554120
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    Anton123
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    I agree completely, I really hope some trades will take place, because the Cavs have a bunch of solid PGs (Baron Davis, Sessions, Irving) and PFs (Hickson, Jamison, Samuels, Thompson) and absolutely no talent on the SG a SF positions

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  • #554165
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    Anton123
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    I agree completely, I really hope some trades will take place, because the Cavs have a bunch of solid PGs (Baron Davis, Sessions, Irving) and PFs (Hickson, Jamison, Samuels, Thompson) and absolutely no talent on the SG a SF positions

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  • #554126
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    willie wise fan
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    they have manny harris and gibson at 2 even though giblson is more of a 1 someone has to play 2

    at 3 they have alonzo gee if hes still there next year

    and eyenga whos decent

    but yeah thats not gonna win many games for them

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  • #554171
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    willie wise fan
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    they have manny harris and gibson at 2 even though giblson is more of a 1 someone has to play 2

    at 3 they have alonzo gee if hes still there next year

    and eyenga whos decent

    but yeah thats not gonna win many games for them

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  • #554247
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    NYK2010
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    They should’ve drafted Derrick Williams and Brandon Knight.

     

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  • #554290
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    NYK2010
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    They should’ve drafted Derrick Williams and Brandon Knight.

     

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  • #554249
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    gone
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    I was thinking the same D Will first then Knight at 4 is a better combo than Kyrie and Tristan

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  • #554292
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    I was thinking the same D Will first then Knight at 4 is a better combo than Kyrie and Tristan

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  • #554289
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    bigdaddybluesman
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    By taking Williams the Cavs were in the drivers seat. It would have made so many teams unhappy especially Minny. That would have opened trades and other things we could not imagine. But by playing it the way the Cavs did they let the other teams off the hook and get better talent then they should have or could have. Williams and Knight would have been a good start and much better then what they got. Irving is a huge risk for the first pick in the draft, he has so little amount of work to judge him by.

    In fact they might have gotten him with the #4 pick because neither Minny nor the Jazz would have taken him. Minny would take Kanter and the Jazz would have moved out and Irving would still be there or so many other players, so many other scenarios. Maybe the Jazz and Cavs switch so they can get Irving, who knows??????

    Very poor draft strategy by the Cavs. They could have probably moved back and still have gotten Tristan Thompson later and another pick. The Cavs will be bad for a long time so they will be in the lottery next year and for a few more. The Cavs had good assets in picks and players and came away with too many question marks.

    Williams and Knight had a chance for greatness, Irving and Thompson have a chance for great mediocrity.

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  • #554333
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    bigdaddybluesman
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    By taking Williams the Cavs were in the drivers seat. It would have made so many teams unhappy especially Minny. That would have opened trades and other things we could not imagine. But by playing it the way the Cavs did they let the other teams off the hook and get better talent then they should have or could have. Williams and Knight would have been a good start and much better then what they got. Irving is a huge risk for the first pick in the draft, he has so little amount of work to judge him by.

    In fact they might have gotten him with the #4 pick because neither Minny nor the Jazz would have taken him. Minny would take Kanter and the Jazz would have moved out and Irving would still be there or so many other players, so many other scenarios. Maybe the Jazz and Cavs switch so they can get Irving, who knows??????

    Very poor draft strategy by the Cavs. They could have probably moved back and still have gotten Tristan Thompson later and another pick. The Cavs will be bad for a long time so they will be in the lottery next year and for a few more. The Cavs had good assets in picks and players and came away with too many question marks.

    Williams and Knight had a chance for greatness, Irving and Thompson have a chance for great mediocrity.

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  • #554341
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    Jean_31
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    the jazz maybe end up whit a better combo…

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  • #554385
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    Jean_31
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    the jazz maybe end up whit a better combo…

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  • #554370
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    cward23
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    I’m not sure why Ya’ll drafted T.T when he doesn’t do anything that makes him more valueable than Hickson

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  • #554415
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    cward23
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    I’m not sure why Ya’ll drafted T.T when he doesn’t do anything that makes him more valueable than Hickson

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  • #554529
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    darkman97
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    If they would’ve taken Williams first, there is no way Minnesota would’ve taken another point gaurd. We (Minnesota) would’ve been forced to take Kanter. I don’t think Utah wanted a point either but if they did it would’ve been Irving. Meaning Cavs would’ve had Knight. i don’t think the fall off from Irving to Knight is that great but the distance between D.Williams and T. Thompson is a larger gap.

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  • #554484
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    darkman97
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    If they would’ve taken Williams first, there is no way Minnesota would’ve taken another point gaurd. We (Minnesota) would’ve been forced to take Kanter. I don’t think Utah wanted a point either but if they did it would’ve been Irving. Meaning Cavs would’ve had Knight. i don’t think the fall off from Irving to Knight is that great but the distance between D.Williams and T. Thompson is a larger gap.

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