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  • #54142
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    I dont know, it seems like they’ve been really struggling lately, winning by a really small margin against Utah tonight and Milwaukee the other night.. As they’re struggles continue, the Heat are really picking it up, Dwade is healthy, the ball is moving so well in their offense, Lebron’s mask doesnt seem to affect him.. I think if Dwade plays like he is playing right now in the playoffs against the pacers, I honestly don’t see how they can beat the Heat, I might get bashed for it but that’s what I feel.. Now, im not saying they don’t have a chance to beat them, but I think they will have to step it up.. PG really had a solid start to the season, but his production dropped, and even though the Heat are small, I would never count on Hibbert to be the go to guy to win a playoff series.

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  • #875897
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     You shouldn’t get bashed for it.  IMO, the only reason I thought anyone could beat Miami was because Wade was getting old and injured.  I didn’t think he would still be performing at the level he is, but if he plays like a Top 10 player they will hard to beat.

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  • #876005
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     You shouldn’t get bashed for it.  IMO, the only reason I thought anyone could beat Miami was because Wade was getting old and injured.  I didn’t think he would still be performing at the level he is, but if he plays like a Top 10 player they will hard to beat.

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  • #875899
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     Pacers don’t have a true go to player. PG is good, but I belive he was annointed as a star too early. He was wildly inconsistent his first two seasons & is still inconsistent in getting his own shot going. They’re a good collection of talent, but I don’t think they’re ready. On the bright side though, they’re still a relatively young team…

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    • #876088
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       its not as bright as you think.

      Lance is due for a big pay day after the season and Pacers have stated they dont want to be over the luxury tax.

      he might leave at the end of the year and the team without Lance would take a big step back. especially as West continues to age.

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    • #876194
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       its not as bright as you think.

      Lance is due for a big pay day after the season and Pacers have stated they dont want to be over the luxury tax.

      he might leave at the end of the year and the team without Lance would take a big step back. especially as West continues to age.

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  • #876007
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     Pacers don’t have a true go to player. PG is good, but I belive he was annointed as a star too early. He was wildly inconsistent his first two seasons & is still inconsistent in getting his own shot going. They’re a good collection of talent, but I don’t think they’re ready. On the bright side though, they’re still a relatively young team…

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  • #875907
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    tuck243
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    First, the NBA is all about match ups and quite frankly D Wade haven’t been able to show up versus the Pacers (or Conference Playoffs) for some years now.  Add the fact that Evan Turner can guard LeBron and D Wade, I’m not concerned about Wade’s play right now.   Until I see it in the playoffs, I’m not trusting it.

    Paul George, beginning of the year EVERYONE was on his bandwagon.  Saying ridiculous things like "He’s better than Melo"  "He’s just as good as Durant".  PG is actually one of my favorite players, but this was his first year ever putting up that type of production.  Even with the development in his game, he is only averaging 22 points on 44% shooting.  Average rebounding to go along with it and now people should understand why I said it’s too early to give him the edge over Melo.  There’s no doubt him my mind he will continue to improve, but this is his first season averaging over 20 points.  Also, the guy had 7 points in Game 7 versus the Heat last year.  7 points!!  He still have a little ways to go before he take that superstar leap IMO.

    The Pacers are winning games this year through their defense.  That starts with Roy Hibbert as he controls the paint and changes a bunch of shots.  In order for the Heat to beat the Pacers (yes its the other way around) D Wade will have to show up.  If not, LeBron has to play out of his mind and still I don’t think it will be good enough to beat the Pacers in 7 games if Wade is Wade of last year.  The Pacers are just too deep *pause*.

     

     

      

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    • #875923
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      struggles shmuggles. paul george is better than melo.

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      • #876034
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        tuck243
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        Please explain how Paul George is better than Melo?

        Still don’t get how he get a pass for putting up 7 points in a Game 7. If any other star player did that his critics will have a field day.

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      • #876141
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        Please explain how Paul George is better than Melo?

        Still don’t get how he get a pass for putting up 7 points in a Game 7. If any other star player did that his critics will have a field day.

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    • #876031
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      theprophet
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      struggles shmuggles. paul george is better than melo.

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    • #876058
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      ShekiruBoom
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       Dwade’s been struggling with the Pacers for some years now? They played in the playoffs the last 2 years and in 2012, Dwade dropped 26-5-3 on 47% on average in the 6 games. Last year he defintiely struggled against the Pacers as he only averaged like 15 but he struggled through the entire playoffs as he averaged 15.9 throughout the entire playoffs. I don’t know where you got the idea Dwade struggled against the Pacers for some years now.

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    • #876165
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       Dwade’s been struggling with the Pacers for some years now? They played in the playoffs the last 2 years and in 2012, Dwade dropped 26-5-3 on 47% on average in the 6 games. Last year he defintiely struggled against the Pacers as he only averaged like 15 but he struggled through the entire playoffs as he averaged 15.9 throughout the entire playoffs. I don’t know where you got the idea Dwade struggled against the Pacers for some years now.

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    • #876090
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       Evan Turner can not guard Wade or Lebron.

      lmao dont know what makes you think that. he’s barely an above average defender.

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    • #876196
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       Evan Turner can not guard Wade or Lebron.

      lmao dont know what makes you think that. he’s barely an above average defender.

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  • #876015
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    First, the NBA is all about match ups and quite frankly D Wade haven’t been able to show up versus the Pacers (or Conference Playoffs) for some years now.  Add the fact that Evan Turner can guard LeBron and D Wade, I’m not concerned about Wade’s play right now.   Until I see it in the playoffs, I’m not trusting it.

    Paul George, beginning of the year EVERYONE was on his bandwagon.  Saying ridiculous things like "He’s better than Melo"  "He’s just as good as Durant".  PG is actually one of my favorite players, but this was his first year ever putting up that type of production.  Even with the development in his game, he is only averaging 22 points on 44% shooting.  Average rebounding to go along with it and now people should understand why I said it’s too early to give him the edge over Melo.  There’s no doubt him my mind he will continue to improve, but this is his first season averaging over 20 points.  Also, the guy had 7 points in Game 7 versus the Heat last year.  7 points!!  He still have a little ways to go before he take that superstar leap IMO.

    The Pacers are winning games this year through their defense.  That starts with Roy Hibbert as he controls the paint and changes a bunch of shots.  In order for the Heat to beat the Pacers (yes its the other way around) D Wade will have to show up.  If not, LeBron has to play out of his mind and still I don’t think it will be good enough to beat the Pacers in 7 games if Wade is Wade of last year.  The Pacers are just too deep *pause*.

     

     

      

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  • #875921
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    Miami can lose nine games to teams under .500 and people say "they are saving it for the playoffs" or "regular season games don’t matter". The Pacers go 9-3 in February, and suddenly the sky is falling? No. The Pacers still have the best record in the East and in the league, and are undefeated since they added Turner. The health of anyone on Miami is neither here nor there. If the Pacers can stay healthy, and maybe even get 5 minutes a game from a healthy Bynum, they will fight it out against the best in the West for the title.

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  • #876029
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    Miami can lose nine games to teams under .500 and people say "they are saving it for the playoffs" or "regular season games don’t matter". The Pacers go 9-3 in February, and suddenly the sky is falling? No. The Pacers still have the best record in the East and in the league, and are undefeated since they added Turner. The health of anyone on Miami is neither here nor there. If the Pacers can stay healthy, and maybe even get 5 minutes a game from a healthy Bynum, they will fight it out against the best in the West for the title.

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  • #876035
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    The Pacers have done some awesome stuff with the team this year, but to say I am confident my Pacers will beat Miami would be an out and out lie, they are playing a lot like they started last season, however George and Stephenson is that much better along with the bench and they are winning the games they lost.

    Remember Miami went through a rough patch just before the All-Star break, and Indiana is still on a 5 game win streak.

    The Pacers are good and Larry has made some great moves, the problem is that we are banking on a 23 year old who is still refining his game and that isn’t enough at this point.

    If this was another 2-3 years down the road with a 25-26 year old Paul George it would be a whole different ball game and I don’t think we see the Pacers struggling like this. Paul George will become a very good player, he already is. However he is another few years away from being that person who the Pacers can truly rely on game in and game out.

    I have no problem with Indiana going all in this season as if you have even the slightest chance to chase a Championship why not have a good go at it.

    The Pacers need a team like this 2-3 seasons from now, with a vastly more experienced Paul George and a few more Summers and play-off appearances in the rear view mirror.

    That is another challenge as West will be even older and even Hibbert will 30 years old and the Pacers will have to keep hoping George develops and that he will continually attract talent. Even Stephenson stays as well then 2-3 years from now Indiana will be very scary.

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  • #875927
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    The Pacers have done some awesome stuff with the team this year, but to say I am confident my Pacers will beat Miami would be an out and out lie, they are playing a lot like they started last season, however George and Stephenson is that much better along with the bench and they are winning the games they lost.

    Remember Miami went through a rough patch just before the All-Star break, and Indiana is still on a 5 game win streak.

    The Pacers are good and Larry has made some great moves, the problem is that we are banking on a 23 year old who is still refining his game and that isn’t enough at this point.

    If this was another 2-3 years down the road with a 25-26 year old Paul George it would be a whole different ball game and I don’t think we see the Pacers struggling like this. Paul George will become a very good player, he already is. However he is another few years away from being that person who the Pacers can truly rely on game in and game out.

    I have no problem with Indiana going all in this season as if you have even the slightest chance to chase a Championship why not have a good go at it.

    The Pacers need a team like this 2-3 seasons from now, with a vastly more experienced Paul George and a few more Summers and play-off appearances in the rear view mirror.

    That is another challenge as West will be even older and even Hibbert will 30 years old and the Pacers will have to keep hoping George develops and that he will continually attract talent. Even Stephenson stays as well then 2-3 years from now Indiana will be very scary.

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    • #876038
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      tuck243
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      Love this post.

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    • #876145
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      tuck243
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      Love this post.

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  • #876059
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     Not concerned one bit

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  • #875951
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     Not concerned one bit

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  • #876089
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     People seem to forget that neither Wade nor Bosh was 100%. Probably neither was even at 50% for those ECF. 

    Wade is a legit concern every year just because his body had taken a beating. 

    The Bosh thing was a fluke ankle injury that he would’ve sat out and rested and gotten healed had it occurred in the regular season. 

    A completely healthy Bosh is a HUGE difference maker. He was god awful that Indiana series due to the ankle injury. 

     

     All that being said, Indy can still beat them. They need Paul George to raise his offensive game back to that level. 

     

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  • #875982
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     People seem to forget that neither Wade nor Bosh was 100%. Probably neither was even at 50% for those ECF. 

    Wade is a legit concern every year just because his body had taken a beating. 

    The Bosh thing was a fluke ankle injury that he would’ve sat out and rested and gotten healed had it occurred in the regular season. 

    A completely healthy Bosh is a HUGE difference maker. He was god awful that Indiana series due to the ankle injury. 

     

     All that being said, Indy can still beat them. They need Paul George to raise his offensive game back to that level. 

     

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    • #876032
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      I don’t get how him not being 100% isn’t normal for him. LOL

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      • #876074
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         That’s what I was saying. Hence why i said its every year for him. 

         

        Bosh is the one who it wasn’t normal for. 

         

         

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        • #876092
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          I don’t see the Heat beating a better Pacers team. Hibbert stepped up defensively like never before. Lance has become a stud this season and Paul George is now clearly their leader. The added a few solid pieces in Evan Turner, Scola, and if healthy Bynum. The Heat get killed on the glass and the Pacers has one of the biggest line ups in the league. Bosh at 100% isn’t as HUGE as you think. D Wade is really the X factor because you can get the points that Bosh give you from other players. Majority of his points come from floor spacing, which Beasley and Haslem can give you. What he adds is a long body defensively, but I don’t think that’s enough for this year’s Pacers. LeBron going to have to play out his mind damn near every game if Wade doesn’t show up. And even then I don’t think that’s enough. With or without Bosh at 100%.

          You don’t have to agree with me now though, we can wait until the playoffs to see who was right.

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        • #876198
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          I don’t see the Heat beating a better Pacers team. Hibbert stepped up defensively like never before. Lance has become a stud this season and Paul George is now clearly their leader. The added a few solid pieces in Evan Turner, Scola, and if healthy Bynum. The Heat get killed on the glass and the Pacers has one of the biggest line ups in the league. Bosh at 100% isn’t as HUGE as you think. D Wade is really the X factor because you can get the points that Bosh give you from other players. Majority of his points come from floor spacing, which Beasley and Haslem can give you. What he adds is a long body defensively, but I don’t think that’s enough for this year’s Pacers. LeBron going to have to play out his mind damn near every game if Wade doesn’t show up. And even then I don’t think that’s enough. With or without Bosh at 100%.

          You don’t have to agree with me now though, we can wait until the playoffs to see who was right.

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      • #876181
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         That’s what I was saying. Hence why i said its every year for him. 

         

        Bosh is the one who it wasn’t normal for. 

         

         

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    • #876139
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      I don’t get how him not being 100% isn’t normal for him. LOL

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  • #876094
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     The Pacers have shown in the past, well, Paul George era, that they are a team that raises their game in the playoffs.  They may have some slip-ups and inconsistencies in the regular season and though I do believe they take winning games in the regular season as seriously as anyone, they are a team that plays better in the postseason, especially Roy Hibbert and, to a lesser extent, Paul George.

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  • #876200
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     The Pacers have shown in the past, well, Paul George era, that they are a team that raises their game in the playoffs.  They may have some slip-ups and inconsistencies in the regular season and though I do believe they take winning games in the regular season as seriously as anyone, they are a team that plays better in the postseason, especially Roy Hibbert and, to a lesser extent, Paul George.

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  • #876112
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     Give me Paul George over Melo 100%

    I’d much rather have a play like PG who fits into a system, can get his shot when he needs to (which melo obviously can too), and plays phenomenal on ball defense and team defense.

    Yes, melo might be a better iso scorer and maybe if you’re team needs a big bucket you go to him over PG, but there are also going to be a lot of possession where Melo is holding the ball, not fitting into the TEAM’s system, and is struggling to guard other team’s top players.

     

    And, I’m not worried one bit about the Pacers. It’s a bit silly to worry about teams WINNING by small margins. Are they a favorite to beat the heat? probably not, but were they ever? They definitely have as good of a chance (if not better) as any other team in recent memory.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #876218
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     Give me Paul George over Melo 100%

    I’d much rather have a play like PG who fits into a system, can get his shot when he needs to (which melo obviously can too), and plays phenomenal on ball defense and team defense.

    Yes, melo might be a better iso scorer and maybe if you’re team needs a big bucket you go to him over PG, but there are also going to be a lot of possession where Melo is holding the ball, not fitting into the TEAM’s system, and is struggling to guard other team’s top players.

     

    And, I’m not worried one bit about the Pacers. It’s a bit silly to worry about teams WINNING by small margins. Are they a favorite to beat the heat? probably not, but were they ever? They definitely have as good of a chance (if not better) as any other team in recent memory.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #876118
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    Pacers will be fine, especially if Bynum can give solid production off the bench. Miami struggled guarding west and Hibbert last year, now they have scola and bynum off the bench, Miami frontcourt will struggle in a 7 game series.

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  • #876224
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    Pacers will be fine, especially if Bynum can give solid production off the bench. Miami struggled guarding west and Hibbert last year, now they have scola and bynum off the bench, Miami frontcourt will struggle in a 7 game series.

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