[paradigmnParticipant]

 With the first pick in the 2015 nba draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select Andrew Wiggins, SF from the University of Kentucky…..I could be wrong, but is this the best 14 yearold ever to lace them up???

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 he is in my radar, but I wouldn’t put him as a #1 draft pick yet. We all thought Brandon Knight was the best PG in this draft class until Kyrie Irving stole the show. We all thought Austin Rivers was the best prospect in the 2012 draft, until Anthony Davis wowed us in Mcdonald’s game. This guy won’t come out for 4 more years at least. A lot can happen in four years.

[paradigmnParticipant]

 The difference between the players you mentioned and WIGGINS is the fact that Wiggins is only a freshman and hes a legit 6’7” 210 and has been playing for his national team since 8th grade….obviously theres along ways away b4 2015, but this kid certainly passes the eye test, has great lineage and is mature beyond his years.  I dont want to jump the gun, but this kid is going to be special!!!http://www.youtube.com/user/GTABasketball

[TRC1991Participant]

slow your role wardb12, not EVERYONE thought knight would be the best…i could tell ever since the mickey d’s all-american game that Irving was the best pg in the class

[kc_027Participant]

http://www.youtube.com/user/FlagrantFoulsCanada

 

[paradigmnParticipant]

 Doesnt matter what video you watch…the kids a BEAST…and I’m almsot inclined to say hes even better than LeBron was at this age(certainly has better genes)!!!

[cward23Participant]

THAT KID IS THE TRUTH!!!!!!. Did anyone watch the Jordan Brand international game? He was killing it. Had 20points

Is he only gonna be a freshman? He’s a 16 year old incoming freshman that means he will be a 20 year old sr

[paradigmnParticipant]

 He wasnt in the jordan classic…lol…dudes only a 15 year old freshman in Canada none the less…I guarntee hed hold his own though if he did play in the game…i watched him play against the USA under 17 team last year when he was 14 and  in the 8th grade…lol…he BOOFED it on Gilchrest’s head…if he stays hungry, no doubt in my mind he will be one we talk about for YEARS to come!!!

[cward23Participant]

Jordan classic international game. There are games before the Jordan classic.

I actually think there are two games before the Jordan class. International and a regional. It may not be called a regional though

[paradigmnParticipant]

 I thought you were talking about last nights game…my bad…heres another taste of things to come(hes only 14 in this video)…ENJOY!!!       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnyy59hEpKg

                       

[cward23Participant]

He actually reminds me of Gilchrist at the same stage. Gilchrist as a freshman was talked about as one of the best players reguardless of class and out played alot of the top players in older classes during the summer. That might be the same path Wiggins is on. Just like Gilchrist he has no were to go but down as other players start to develop ( its obvious that he has developed earlier then others his age as far as physical abilities. Hopefully he will continue to get better and hold off all challengers( if he becomes the top ranked player in his class)

[paradigmnParticipant]

 Good anaolgy with Gilchrist….theres defiently a similarity as far as the hype is concerned as well as similar body development at that age…I have to say though, watching Gilchrist his freshman year and comparing that to 14 yearold Wiggins, it seems as if Wiggins game is more polished, of course this is just my opinion…either way you slice it, no one can deny the potential greatness this kid possess.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

and he likes to play Yu-gi-oh and Bakugan

[paradigmnParticipant]

 dont forget SUDOKU!!!

[cward23Participant]

I’m not sure he’s as polished though. Gilchriust was very polished which was why he was hyped so much. He played hard and had a very high IQ for his age. He played within his self and didnt try to do too much out of his skill level

[paradigmnParticipant]

Its like splitting atoms I guess comparing freshman phenoms. There is so much time to develop you never really know how it will turn out.  If I had to choose whos game "looks" better at 15 years of age I got to go with Wiggins.

[cward23Participant]

I’d go with Giclchrist because of his constant motor and the fact he has played against better comp longer. With Wiggins i see a constant trend that scouts write about him which is he sometimes coasts and doesn’t bring it 100 percent all the time. Either way he has to improve. tjhere have been many kids who looked great as freshmen but didnt improve much

Right now he has to prove what he can do against the elite players in the U.S.A since every thing he has done has been against far inferior Talent. I’m still curious as to why he is 16 and is only gonna be a freshman. Thats too old to be a freshman

[WizardofOzParticipant]

"I’m still curious as to why he is 16 and is only gonna be a freshman. Thats too old to be a freshman"

No, he was a freshman and is going into his sophomore year. I think he’s in the class of 2014, but some people say he’s in 10th grade, and Scout.com has him listed in the class of 2015.

[paradigmnParticipant]

 Well…I believe he is 15…whats his BDAY???  You are right about him not giving100 percent effort all the time though, but that is an easy fix. Canadian HS ball is not as good as the states, but its not too far behind.  He has played against quality competition though with the CANADIAN national team….he was 14 at the time and definetly held his own although his lack of effort at times was noticeable…but 14 years old playing against this type of competition is pretty impressive either way you cut it.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHz2ja-mQ0w&feature=related…this is when he was in 8th grade, playing against players like rakeem christmas and james macadoo…pretty good competion for a 14 year old.

[cward23Participant]

oh ok.

And i just read the first post all the way through…you’re getting ahead of you’re self if you think he’s the best 15 year old to ever lace them up. He’s good but there have been better. one that comes to mind is Schea cotton who wasn’t just the best in his age group but was easily top 5-10 reguardless of class. Wiggins hasn’t been mentioned as one of the best reguardless of class

[paradigmnParticipant]

 I was just trying to have an attention grabber with that line, but I still dont believe its TOO far fetched, I mean look at the film…dude is 15….I repeat 15…flat out STUD…plus having a father that played in the NBA and an olympic spriter for a mother is definetly a good base as far as developing a good work ethic…obviosuly its a lilttle premature to put him in the hall of fame…but I havent seen any 15 yearolds that can touch this kid…Tre Lyles and Jayln Lindsay are good players, but I believe Wiggins tops them.

[WizardofOzParticipant]

These mixes are pretty sick too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NS8_sLC_8U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrhtD0-_kEw

[moochieeParticipant]

"Andrew Wiggins is about as smooth and athletic a wing prospect as you’ll find at this age. Just turned 16 two months ago. That’s scary."

From a certain scout’s twitter page a couple days ago.

[paradigmnParticipant]

 Okay…well all the video i posted was him at 14 and 15…so him turing 16 two months ago means he still played basically all his freshman year as a 15 yearold…either way its not like hes a BISMAK BIYOMBO with the age thing…bottom line hes a baller!

[cward23Participant]

How do you think some of these american kids who were ranked number one as freshmen (mayo, Sydney etc ) would have done against that same canadian competition? We are talking about freshmen who did work against some of the top players in classes 3 years older. Thats alot different than doing that against those canadian kids. He’s talented but to say he’s one of the best ever at his age is taking it too far

[paradigmnParticipant]

 They wenrt 6’7 210 at 15….and what are you trying to say???….that this kid wouldnt do well playing HS basketball in the states???  We all know thats a fallacy.

[cward23Participant]

Not saying he wouldn’t do well but you’re statement is the best or one of the best to ever lace them up at his age group without thinking about some of the kids in the past who did the same thing or better at that same age. Plus the hype should be tempered until he does it against top player sin the states compared to the players he played against in Canada. Very big difference in comp level. Tristian Thompson is another Canadian who dominated at that same rate at that same age. In order to be in the company of the best or the best that ever did it at that age you have to do things that hasn’t or very rarely has been done

And i ask about 16 because 16 as a freshman makes you 20 as a sr. thats two years

[paradigmnParticipant]

 okay…well like I said, if he turned 16 two months ago, that means he still played 80 percent of his freshman year as a 15 yearold.  20 as a senior???  He will be 19 his freshman year of college, so that isnt true.  As far as "the best to ever lace them up"  I was trying to start a post…my first by the way, so I needed an attention grabber…….for his age…and skill level…right now in this day and age, against all HS players his age…I believe if hes not the best he certainly is a close second(reguardless if he plays in canada)!!!

[cward23Participant]

Sydney was 6’9 230 not that height and weight means anything as far as being a best ever

There was a kid from texas who ened up being a McDonald’s All American. He was 6’7 230 of muscle. Played the 2,3,4,5 and averaged 30ppg as a high school freshman in a very tough League name is Glendon Alexander

Schea cotton was on the Cover of Sports illustrated because he went to camps as a freshman and was ranked as one of the top 5 players in each camp and number on in a couple of camps

Felipe Lopez dominated older players in camps as a freshman and was considered on of the best players reguardless of class

Tim thomas was a 6’10 220 unstoppable freshman with handles,jumperpower and dominated older players

Not even gonna mention Kareem Jabbar Because he was ranked top 5 in the nation as a freshman

Oscar Roberson, Pistol Pete put up 28-35 ppg game as freshmen while leading there teams to very high rankings and state titles if I’m not mistaken

Edmund Saunders was a 6’8 215 SF out of CT with a jumper handles defense and athletic ability and dominated in camps and in H.S as a freshman

Dermarr Johnson 6’9 205 was so good as a freshman and soph that NBA players said he could play int he NBA after his Soph season

Keith Bogans was a 6’5 210 freshman that destroyed older players and was considered the number 1 Freshman in the nation behind Johnson after killing Tim Thomas team and dunking on him 3 different times. Had a jumper, Pro body and pro game

Jabari Parker from Chi-Town is considered one of the best players in his class( soph i think) and he’s 6’7 2 something

My point is not to say Wiggins isn’t good which he is from what Ive seen, but there’s no proof to say he’ one of the best to ever lace them up for his age especially since all the dominating he has done have been against guys who will be in low level D2 at best. The best player he played against up there was the pango’s kid if I’m not mistaken and he is gonna struggle to start at Gonzaga

[paradigmnParticipant]

 did u not see the video i posted of him playing against james macado and rakeem christmas???…as far as jabari parker…lol…ive watched about 7 of jabaris games….from  athelticism to handles to jumpshot…across the board…Wiggins is clearly the better player…and jabari is suposively a top 3 sophmore…i live 2 minutes away from kuran iverson…i watch him play allot…he ranked as the second best sophmore in the country…lol…not even close….WIGGINS would crush this kid…obviously its too young to say hes the best ever….like i said i was starting the post and wanted to get a conversation going…but he definetly has played good competion…not like hes playing at the local YMCA.

[teamgamepointParticipant]

Wow. I have to give thanks for the shout out and love. I am Glendon Alexander and I was far from 6’7 and 230. I was between 6’4-6’5 and 210. I read some guru try to rank me between 20-25…not so fast my friend. Third team USA Today, which means top 15. I was shown no love due to my state which was considered a football state. Thanks for the love my friends. No disrespect to these kids playing now days…but they need to work on their games and put in work on the court. Too many handouts being given by these fake gurus who think they know talent.

[teamgamepointParticipant]

Wow. I have to give thanks for the shout out and love. I am Glendon Alexander and I was far from 6’7 and 230. I was between 6’4-6’5 and 210. I read some guru try to rank me between 20-25…not so fast my friend. Third team USA Today, which means top 15. I was shown no love due to my state which was considered a football state. Thanks for the love my friends. No disrespect to these kids playing now days…but they need to work on their games and put in work on the court. Too many handouts being given by these fake gurus who think they know talent.

[cward23Participant]

reguardless if He played hs ball in Canada?..Canadian H.s basketball is wayyyy low compared to H.S basketball here lets not get it twisted. Pango’s is what the second best player in Canada this year ( or ranked first) where would he be ranked if he played here? He hasn’t proven to be the best in his age group here just yet because he hasn’t played against the best enough to show that he is the best so anything said to that re guard is just a assumption with no proof. You have some kids his age( jabari Parker, Kuran Iverson) doing the same thing at the same age against much better competition so it is a slap in the face to automatically say this kid is better or much better than them if he hasn’t proven it yet

[cward23Participant]

So if he’s one of the best to ever lace them in his age group that would make him number 1 player ahead of
Jabari Parker
Julis Randle
Kuran Iverson
Nerlens Noel

In you’re opinion right, since no one has claimed any of those guys are one of the best ever to lace them up

[paradigmnParticipant]

 those are sophmores…hes a freshman…and yes hes better than all of them except julius randel!!!

[cward23Participant]

For that Whole tournament Wiggins averaged 8ppg 3rebs 3fouls and 0 percent from three. Not bad but not great

and Wiggins would Crush Jabari based on what?..The key thing is proving all these things. So far in the summer games he has played this summer he has played well but not great and not better than Noels or Randle who are both in his class

Thjese kids are all 16 and Wiggins is 16 right?

[paradigmnParticipant]

 my opinion of course…im just a bsaketball fan no one important, but from what ive seen of jabari…and what ive seen of wiggins…if im a gm…im taking wiggins…nerlens noel…NO OFFENSE whats so ever(based on what ive seen)…Julis randle…STUD…hands down…….so…back to the age thing…fine…there all the same age right now…its just Wiggins is a munch younger 16 than the rest…not that that matters….so I believe the top two 16 yearolds in the world as far as basketball is concerned are wiggins and randle…MY OPINION….this is based on me watching allot of video and live play of all the top rated freshman and sophmores not only in the US…but around the world…once again my opinion…sorry if you disagree.

[cward23Participant]

his birth day is 2/95 so he’s gonna be a freshman right since you keep saying he;s a freshman

Next feb he will be a 17 years old freshman
feb after that he will be a 18 years soph
feb after that a 19years old jr
feb after that he will be a 20 year old sr

Micheal Gilchrist is 17 years old now so he is a year older than a incoming freshman?..even though he started school early thats still interesting

Now if he is gonna be a soph that means he is in those other players age group and actually is probably older than them and will be older than just about every other freshman when he goes to college

[paradigmnParticipant]

 hes 16 now and just finshed his freshman year(so u say)…this time next year he will be 17 and just finshed his sophmore year….a year from then he will be 18 and have just finshed his junior year… he will be 19 when he graduates HS…and he will be 19 when he becomes a freshman in college he will never be a 20 yearold senior in HS….he will be 20 when hes a lottery pick in the NBA!!!

[cward23Participant]

What makes him a much younger 16 year old?..he’s is behind all those other guys because he hasn’t faced the comp that they have faced. You should have to prove what you can do against better comp before you get ranked ahead of guys who have proven it already. Basically he should be a upcoming Jr. based on his age not a freshman.

I’m wondering how good Drummond and Coleman and Shabazz would be considered if they were incoming freshmen like Wiggins ( they are all around the same age)

I do think he is the best playe rin his class since he is 2 years older than others in his class and shouldnt have much problem keeping it as a 20 year old sr

[paradigmnParticipant]

 hes not an incoming frehsman dude…he played nearly his entire freshman year as a 15 year old…freshman are 14-15…right???…not that far outta whack…he just turned 16 one month before his freshman year was over..while iverson…randle…nerlenes…they are about to be 17…thus…hes a younger 16!!!

[cward23Participant]

so he is a soph not a freshman? You keep saying he’s a freshman but if he already completed his freshman year then he’s a soph.

Its not so i say because im tryna figure out if he;s a incoming freshman and according to everywhere i read he is a incoming freshman which would make him a 20 year old sr since his birth day is in Feb. did i get any of that wrong?

[paradigmnParticipant]

He just finished his freshman year of HS….next year he will be a sophmore.

[cward23Participant]

Thats why i kept asking why you kept saying he’s a freshman. When you say someone is a freshman that means they havn’t started there freshman season in H.S. Once you’re done you’re considered a Soph not a freshman.

And im still wondering why every site has him as a 2014 recruit. Randle, iverson, nerlens are 2013 recruits

[WizardofOzParticipant]

"And im still wondering why every site has him as a 2014 recruit. Randle, iverson, nerlens are 2013 recruits"

He’s not in the same class as Randle, Iverson, and Noels. He’s an incoming sophomore, while all thos guys are incoming juniors.

[cward23Participant]

is he repeating his freshman year?

[paradigmnParticipant]

even though the basketball season is over…they are all still in school..thus…at this moment…wiggins is still curently a freshman…..and right now…randle, noel,parker,iverson…they are curently sophmores…simple.

[cward23Participant]

yeah in real world but in basketball world they are called freshmen if they are about to become freshmen.

Thanks for clearing that up OZ. So he’s not in the same class and is older than player sin his class ( 19 is old as a Sr)

[paradigmnParticipant]

 sorry i wasnt clear i guess…all im saying reguardless of age…hes one of the best HS basketball players in the game today!!!

[paradigmnParticipant]

 there are others who share my opinion….http://sportspresstv.com/zz-andrew-wiggins-b14.php

[cward23Participant]

one of the best players in his class…yeah i agree but not including every class because although he has played ok so far this summer he would not be picked as a top 25 player reguadless of class because he hasn’t dominated, he has played well but not as well as the upcoming Sr’s or Jr’s who are top in there class

[cward23Participant]

the thing about opinions is they aren’t facts. Playing and proving is facts and so far this summer from playing and proving he hasn’t proven he is one of the best reguardless of class. .

Which do you think holds up more proving it or people thinking it with no proof. The summer is still young so maybe he will step it up and prove he is one of the best reguardless of class but so far he has just proven he is one of the best in his class

[paradigmnParticipant]

 well…hes been offered scholarships from duke, kentucky, north carolina..etc etc…as a FRESHMAN…so hes proved to college coaches atleast that hes one of the best…and I guess thats all that matters.

[cward23Participant]

i just checked the link out… thats was three years ago. three years ago the rankings were totally different just like three years from now im sure they will be different.

Three years ago Rubio was the greatest thing walking

Anthony Davis was unknown as well as Perry Jones

[paradigmnParticipant]

 ummm…NO…the story was 2 years ago…the raankings are 3 motnhs ago…so…if he was hyped 2 years ago like he was…and 2 years later hes still ranked # 1 in his class….theres really nothing else he can do to sway peoples mind that hes one of the best HS players out there…only time will tell…but im fairly confident that he will be a mcD;s all-american…then be a one and doner.

[cward23Participant]

i didnt argue. He is one of the best in his class based off what he did in canada. Now its up to him to prove he is the best in his class with his game during this summer. So far he has proven to be one of the best in his class but not reguardless of class like i already said. And thats based off games that have been played so far this summer against better comp( EBYL tournament so far)

[paradigmnParticipant]

 well…in my opinion hes one of the best reguardless of class…(not counting outgoing seniors)…and to figure out the age thing…as of feb 3…he was 15….http://www.rollerfunk.com/entertainment-news/15-year-old-andrew-wiggins-canadas-next-hoop-star/

[cward23Participant]

nothing wrong with having that opinion as a fan many fans think players they are fans of are the best or one of the best reguardless of class. Some say Randle and Jabari is as well. Everyone is entitled to that.

So basically you don’t know his age?..His birthday is 2/23/95

Should probably tell that site to make sure they check there sources. One of the first rules of journalism

[paradigmnParticipant]

 im a fan of basketball…ive been around the game a bit…ive seen allot of talent….theres no doubt in my mind that this kid(given the right work ethic) cant be a SUPERSTAR….this is not me saying this as a FAN…this is me saying this as an honest evaluation of his game.

[paradigmnParticipant]

 did you just go there…lol…im not a journalist dude…just having a simple conversation about a basketball player…i believe ive given this fourm enough vidoes and articles to support my opinions,,,sorry i wasnt 100 percent sure about his age…lol…i guess im not cut out for journalisim!!!

[cward23Participant]

through out this i realize it looks like i dont think he’s that good but thats far from the truth. I think he is very good and has the potential to be the number one player before he graduates. At the same time i also know there have been players like him who were physically more mature than his peers before they became Sr’s and know that eventually his peers will mature and catch up physically. That and the fact that he has played against very bad competition compared to the competition he is gonna face so i’m not ready to crown a unproven king just yet until its proven against better comp. I’d say the same thing for a kid who is killing out in Alaska against alaskan kids but hasn’t played in the states at the camps with the top players

[paradigmnParticipant]

 SPECULATION….this is what people do with young athletes…obviously its not set in stone what type of player he will become…but seeing what ive seen…at this moment in time…im SPECULATING that he will be GREAT.

[cward23Participant]

No that was for that site. Unless youre the one who created that site. i was saying THEY should check there sources not you

[paradigmnParticipant]

nope…i dont know how to create sites…lol

[cward23Participant]

i think he will be great as well. But i also know its possible that he wont until proven other wise. Like how Rubio dominated his age group where he is from and everyone thought he was the next great thing but the more you watch someone against better comp the more you notice there flaws. A kid that out jumps or handles like magic against joe blow who is never gonna sniff a scholarship could have trouble out jumping better players or handling it against better comp. This summer will show what he’s made of and so far he has done pretty well.( not dominating liek some of the other players i named at the same age) but he is still playing pretty well

[paradigmnParticipant]

 most defiently….he still has allot more to prove…i agree…but…anyone who knows basketball can see that his game(as of right now)will compare favorably to any HS player in the nation.

[cward23Participant]

it does but the same can be said about mon fufu from africa who is far and away more athletic than any other kid in his tribe out there and those guys in his tribe aren’t real good. Now if he does the same things to the kids out here then i will be way more convinced and he is on that path so far with his play

[paradigmnParticipant]

 I live in CT…ive wtached a number of Andre Drummonds games…he projected(by real nba scouts, not me) to be the # 1 pick in 2013…the competion that ive watched him play….down right PATHETIC….the games I saw he didnt DOMINATE the competion…even though it was weak as sh*t…but…u could see that he was special…u could see the type of player he was and could be…all this against inferior competion…my point is…even though wiggins plays in canada right now and the competion is sub par…u can see that it wouldnt matter who u put in front of him(at the HS level)…he will do what he does, and that is play ball like a stud.

[elevation1013Participant]

Not bad for an incoming soph, even if he is supposed to be going into his junior year.

http://www.jordanbrandclassic.com/images/stories/media-page/jbc-international2011-stats.pdf

21 points, 10 rebs, 2 assists, 2 blocks, 1 steal, 1 TO, 29 minutes and 9-16 FG

 

Lol this post might have helped out earlier. http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/happy-sweet-16-andrew-wiggins

[cward23Participant]

thats the game i saw.. he played very well in that game

[paradigmnParticipant]

 wow…thanx…i never saw that b4…is there video of that game???…pretty impressive stats…bottom line I could be dead wrong about this kids future…..it wouldnt suprise me one bit….theres always those ronnie fields….felipe lopezes….eric montrosses….dejaun wagners…lol…the list goes on and on…I guess its more me wanting and wishing to see GREATNESS that I hope this kid can fullfill his potential.

[paradigmnParticipant]

 heres a video of some of those playes…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfkagJ6YFR8

[cward23Participant]

i hope he does too. Its always good to see greatness

[paradigmnParticipant]

and let the story begin……………..

[cward23Participant]

I dont go much by highlights though because they are only gonna show the best of youre game but not you’re whole game. i much rather see a whole game of a player because highlights are very misleading. Thats why i’m glad i watched him play a actual game

[cward23Participant]

Heres a good write up from the other day on scouts.com about two players from the class of 2014

Andrew Wiggins, SF, CIA Bounce – This cat is the absolute real deal. There is no hype with this one, it is all true. Wiggins showed he is an excellent athlete, he can make jumpers, and also is very good at putting the ball on the floor and going to the rim. He was the best player on the floor all game long, and the 2014 prospect showed why some consider him to be the top player in the class.

Dakari Johnson, C, NY Gauchos – The big man is one of the top prospects in the country and his upside is just scary. Johnson really runs the floor well, has great hands, and knows how to score in the paint. On top of it all, Johnson knows he is a center and plays like it. He takes pride in rebounding and blocking shots. Though not a great athlete, Johnson is very fundamental, keeps his arms straight up, and shows discipline not swinging at the ball and picking up fouls. He had a double-double and

[paradigmnParticipant]

 ya….i remember seeing the dakari johnson article…he is SCARY…im not sold on him tho…he might be TOO big…hes bigger than SHAQ was at the same age…he does run pretty well tho, and has decent hands….hes def one 2 watch.

[cward23Participant]

Reminds me of Bynum. There have been many guys bigger than shaq at the same age though. And wayy more who were better than Shaq because he wasn’t that good. Usually big men at that age aren’t that good and are kinda goofy. this kid does all the right things as a big man, gets the offensive rebound and keeps it high instead of bringing it down to gather himself. With his size there is gonna be a concern as to if he is gonna have weight problems but most of the time a kid that young has alot of body fat that will eventually get shed if they are hard workers

[paradigmnParticipant]

 I agree 100 percent…my concern is his weight for sure as well as his knees….being that tall with that weight at that age while still growing and running and jumping all day…that can do a number on your joints for sure…..besides his poor jumping ability, he does look pretty good…I hope his body doesnt fall apart b4 he can have a productive career.

[cward23Participant]

What do you consider poor jumping ability though because he bangs on people on a consistent bases. He doesn’t jump out the gym but just like bynum he’s long and has in his mind that he is gonna bang on anyone reguardless how athletic they are and he does it. when i first saw him for St .Patrick i thought he was soft but the more i watched him i liked his game. and thats when i thought he was a JR. If he strengthens his legs he should be alright( i heard St Patrick has a good conditioning and weight program)

[paradigmnParticipant]

 poor might have been a poor choice of words….lol…no pun intended…but he certainly isnt explosive off the ground right now…not to say that cant change….it wont be a problem in HS because he is just TOO big and he is skilled…but if he ever wants to get SHAQ status, he needs better hops.

[cward23Participant]

I think Duncan status is just as good if not better. Not that he really needs to. Those guys are once in a generation type players and more likely than not he will never become those players. Same with a player becoming Jordan, Lebron, Kobe

[OhCanada-Participant]

those are sophmores…hes a freshman…and yes hes better than all of them except julius randel

He just went head to head with Randle and completly shut him down.

http://www.nikeeliteyouthbasketballleague.com/team-texas-titans-tx-vs-cia-bounce-can/

[paradigmnParticipant]

 ya…i saw that just b4 u posted it…im lookin at his stats now from the EYBL…WOW…kid is sick…dominated randle…lol…he also had this game which was nice  http://www.nikeeliteyouthbasketballleague.com/cia-bounce-can-vs-babc/…but randle did have a good game  http://www.nikeeliteyouthbasketballleague.com/alabama-challenge-al-vs-team-texas-titans-tx/  …future is bright for basketball any way u look at it.

[cward23Participant]

Actually they double teammed randle with him and some real athletic kid named bennett and he didnt play alot because of foul trouble. Not that that matyters since its one game either way. Just like the young kid who scored 15 on Wiggins and Wiggins only had 6 on a bad shooting night. I wouldnt say the kid was better than Wiggins at all.

or the kid from germany who held him to two points while he scored 27. the kid was young but i wouldnt take him over wiggins on any day of the week in the future

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/World%20Championships%20U17/2010/0702_GER_CAN.asp

[paradigmnParticipant]

 any given day as the expression goes…what I’ve noticed with wiggins when he has a sub par game its usually because hes seems disinterested and isnt aggressive..ie only taking 5 shots…that might be good defense, but im guessing he was just going through the motions…the kid will obvisouly go through some growing pains…but i certainly look foward to seeing what type of player he becomes, as im sure all basketball enthusiats can agree with that statement

[OhCanada-Participant]

Wiggins was 14-15, the kid was 17. Wiggins wasnt the help double on Randle Im assuming he was the intial cover I could be wrong thou. Also we are talking about now, and Randle and Wiggins.

[cward23Participant]

Thats another kid who’s from canada who i watched( anthony bennett). I like his future game. alittle raw right now but Randle had problems with him ( was the main guy on Randle with wiggins helping)

[cward23Participant]

The other kid was the same age( tryna find his named) who out played him at the EBYL. and that wasn’t any double teammaing. But liek i said before im not gonna say the other kid was better because it was one game and wiggins could have just been off.

[cward23Participant]

I hope he fixes that because that has followed all the very good young players. the disinterested thing) very hard thing to shake. Thats the same thing that Randle has been accussed of from time to time although scouts says he just couldnt get his shots to fall against the canadian team but at the end of the tournament he was clearly the best player there)

[cward23Participant]

ok the results from the EYBL for Wiggins

19ppg 5 reb team went 3-2 and the scouts say he was clearly the second best player on his team behind the Bennett kid. Thats very very good for a upcoming soph. They said he played hard the whole time which is a very good sign and he guarded guards as well as forwards which is also very good

[paradigmnParticipant]

 from this game http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/World%20Championships%20U17/2010/0702_GER_CAN.asp…look at some of his competion…remember hes 16 right now…..http://www.eurohopes.com/home…dude is 6 years older than wiggins and ranked # 8 best european player…lol…were not in kansas any more toto!!!

[cward23Participant]

Reminds me of the clips about Lance stephenson when he was dominating older players at 15. hopefully he doesn;t end up like him. doesnt seem to have the attitude of lance

I’m actually starting to look up more on this Anthony Bennett kid. From what im finding he was one of the best players at the tournament

anyone on here from canada know about this kid?

[paradigmnParticipant]

 i posted the wrong sh*t…sorry…im a lil iniebriated right now plus watching my celtics….heres wiggins and bennett togetherhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL2bHJ-4Ckw

[cward23Participant]

link wont show. Scouts say he can handle, shoot, pass, defend, goes hard, and talks alot of trash. I like him already lol. I wonder if texas will get him since they have a direct line to canadian players

[paradigmnParticipant]

 myck kabango will convice him to to put on his cowboy boots!!!

[OhCanada-Participant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gS_gyM__JA&feature=channel_video_title

[OhCanada-Participant]

I made it^^^

[paradigmnParticipant]

 lol….sim buhlar…future ostertag????…lol

[cward23Participant]

Since when did Canada start producing so many good players..lol..usually it would be once in a blue moon now theres more and more. They are smart to instead of staying in canada they come and play H.S basketball in the states against better competition. I wouldnt be surprised if Calipari starts getting more of them

[paradigmnParticipant]

i told u HS canadian basketball is not as bad as it once was….there are def sum ballers out there…kevin zabo…future kabango???

[cward23Participant]

those are the guys who could ball and left though. None of those guys who Wiggins were playing with are going to play d1 ball are they?…other than the pangos kid who is ranked as the top player in canada( that says alot about how good the talent is as far as most of the players).

[paradigmnParticipant]

 there are still many D-1 prospects that play HS ball in canada…wiggins pg  HENERY TRAN is 1….hes gettin offers left and right…obv it aint the US…but theres still some competion……wiggins will come to US b4 his HS career is over…and even if he doesnt…i dont think it will affect his game 2 much…he plays enough international games and travel games and allstar games to blance out his HS competion.

[cward23Participant]

Wiggins is already here from what i have read. He’s enrolling in a highschool this season. Very good idea from his father because playing against the comp he was playing against isnt gonna help much because he wont have to push his self much to become th the best out there. At least here he will have to work hard which will help in his developement because he will get used to playing hard all the time

[paradigmnParticipant]

 definetly a good idea…similar to kobe bryant moving from italy to the states b4 his freshman year…and u sumed it up perfectly…this will make him play hard all the time…not only cuz of the competion…but because hopefully he has something to prove being so hyped and from a different country, and all the doubters saying hes only good because he plays in canada…lol…(what a joke that is)…well, the world is his oyster, well maybe not the world, but he def has his choice of high schools…hopefully he moves within driving distance…lol

[ipowersParticipant]

CWARD Glendon Alexander was only 6’4" and he was not ranked anywhere near #1 in his class in 1996. He was a top 20-25 player but nowhere near where Wiggins is projected to be. He did play in the Jordan Brand Internantional game and looked really good. Emmanuel Mudiay from Texas is a 6’4" PG from Texas who is also in the 2014 class. You guys keep talking about Wiggins age. Mudiay just turned 15 last month. He’s a full year younger than Wiggins. He might be the next Penny Hardaway, he’ll probably top out at 6’6" or 6’7". Has a great feel for the gane and has #1 player in the class talent.

[cward23Participant]

Wiggins is the same age as Jabari Parker, Wiggins is good but parker is better

Glendon was 6’5

And just like how i said rankings wil change. Wiggins is now ranked 3rd in his class

[cward23Participant]

Wiggins is the same age as Jabari Parker, Wiggins is good but parker is better

Glendon was 6’5

And just like how i said rankings wil change. Wiggins is now ranked 3rd in his class

[cward23Participant]

Jabari Parker just got MVP of the u16 tournament. BEAST

[cward23Participant]

Jabari Parker just got MVP of the u16 tournament. BEAST

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