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  • #28181
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    paradigmn
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     pg-RAYMOND FELTON…15.5 ppg 8.5 apg 3.6 rpg…I know he was a starter in NY and he actually averages 10 more minutes a game than Lawson, but he’s currently a backup, so he makes the squad.  Rodney Stuckey and Jaret Jack were also in consideration.

    sg-JASON TERRY…15.8 ppg 4.1 apg 1.9 rpg…This was obviously a toss-up between Terry and Jamal Crawford.  The numbers were basically identical so I used shooting percentage as the tie breaker.  Terry shot slightly better at 45% compared to Crawford’s 42%.  Even though I think Crawford is one of the more exciting players to watch in the NBA, Terry takes the spot.

    sf-NICOLAS BATUM…12.4 ppg 1.5 apg 4.5 rpg…This was a difficult positon to pick.  I know Batum basically started the whole year until Portland got Wallace, but I wasn’t sure if Andrei Kirilenko was considered a starter or a backup, plus he missed nearly 1/4 of the season due to injury and Shawn Marion started way too many games because of Caron Butler’s injury, so Batum gets the spot.

    pf-LAMAR ODOM…14.4 ppg 3.0 apg 8.9 rpg…Sixth-Man of the year…Enough said!!!

    c-CHRIS KAMAN…12.4 ppg 7.0 rpg 1.5 bpg…This was another toss-up.  I couldn’t decide between Kaman and Marcin Gortat.  Kaman averaged 2 more points than Gortat but Gortat had the slight edge in rebounding.  I guess it came down to the fact that I used to live in his home town of Grand Rapids Michigan…aka…GunRule(Floyd Maywether’s hood also).

     

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  • #523672
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    SwatLakeCity
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     Uhmm, Rodney Stuckey shouldn’t even be considered. He starts for Detroit at PG. He does not come off the bench. Maybe you were thinking Ben Gordon, but I doubt it since he is not really a PG. And Chris Kaman was injured for half the year practically, that’s why he came off the bench. Gortat is a much better choice cuz even though he started probably 10-15 Suns games he still played most of the season off the bench and healthy all year, instead of Kaman who spent most of this year hurt. I still can’t believe you considered a Stuckey a bench player, c’mon did you even look at who the Pistons started? I do like your other 3 picks but considering Stuckey, and putting a pretty much injured Kaman over Gortat just kills me. 

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  • #523676
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    TdotWave11
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    PG Johnny Flynn – missed a lot of the sseason due to injury but had good numbers last year at 14 and 5 i believe. I feel he can still be an above average starting pg.

    SG James Harden – 12.1 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 2.1 apg good all around player with deceptive athleticism.

    SF Thaddeus Young – 12.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1 apg efficient scorer(54% fg) and a good defender

    PF Darrell Arthur – 9.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg can score inside and from mid.I would say Carl Landry, but I like Darrell alot

    C Marcin Gortat – 10.2 ppg, 7.9 rpg never really saw him play this year, but the numbers don’t lie

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    • #523678
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      khal_drago
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      lol in all fairness i think that depth chart is wrong, bymun started 5 games and stuckey started 54

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  • #523677
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    OhCanada-
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    Felton wouldnt make it because he played to many games in NY as a starter. He obviously would make the ist as best backup now but if your comparing stats its unfair due to his starts so he would be scratche.

    Terry is fine.

    Batum started way too many games.

    Odom is fine, after all he wonthe award.

    Kaman only played 32 games the whole season and started half of them.

    PG-Jarrett Jack-Id have Jarrett Jack as my PG, he may not be putting up great stats but he is an excellent two way player and team leader who plays within the offense. If anyone watched tonights game against LA they saw his leadership skills in full effec as he held his teammates accountable for all their mistakes and held his own on the court. Perfect backup PG.

    SG-Jason Terry-NBA seemed bored with giving him the award…Hopnestly iot should be named after him when he retired. The Jet could easily average 20ppg on a bad team. One of the most underappreciated players in the league.

    SF-Al Harrington-The forgotten one. Al is used to having inflated stats on a horrible team, but this year he is contributing on a Nuggets team tt made quite the run after losing Carmelo.

    PF-Lamar Odom-Youre right, he won it.

    C-Kurt Thomas-Ill give some love to the guy who is always on winning team but never gets shown love. Kurt is a good piece of this Chicago teams depth and oe of the leaders on that sqaud

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  • #523679
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    OhCanada-
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    Hmm I thougt Gortat was starting for Poenix. He only strted 12 games…I also thought Young started a handful of games for the 76ers but I guess not. Those two are esy additions to mylist in replacement for Thomas and Harrington.

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  • #523685
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    TRC1991
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    this is a tough subject because so many guys split the season as a starter for half and a backup for half…

     

    the only thing i can confirm is that tdotwave is going to get killed for his post because jonny flynn sucks a lot and played awful this year!

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  • #523688
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    theEDGE
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    PG- Louis Williams, no starts at all.Farmar could als be considered, because he did great during D-Will’s short time away. Played 75 games with no starts.

    SG- J.R. Smith, big time scorer. Played 79 with 6 starts.

    SF- C.J. Miles, A shooter who does a little bit of everything else. Played 78 with 19 starts.

    PF/C- Ryan Anderson, big man who can hit the 3. Played 64 with 14 starts.

    PF/C- Glen Davis, Big Baby is turning in to a Big Man. Played 78 with 13 starts. 

    Total games played:374

    Total games started: 52

    Starting % of total games: 13,9

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  • #523689
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    glm51391
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    PG- Louis Williams, instant offense for a surprising 7th seed sixers

    SG- Jamal Crawford- The 5th seeded hawks needed this scoring machines numbers all year

    SF- CJ Miles- you can throw him around the 2 or 3 spot this guy had a few scoring outbursts

    PF- Lamar odom- 6th man of the year award does "say it all"

    C- Marcin Gortat- this guy was the diamond of the huge trade not pietrus or vince carter

    j terry is a honorable mention for the pg/sg spot but I took louis williams due to his impact on a rising team while mavs have other reliable threats such as beaubois, barea and stevenson at the guard slots

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  • #523690
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    kobyz
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    lets take it further, which team has the best back-up lineup?

    Atlanta Hawks:       
    Jeff Teague
    Jamal Crawford 
    Marvin Williams
    Josh Powell
    Zaza Pachulia

    Boston Celtics:
    Delonte West
    Von Wafer
    Jeff Green
    Glen Davis
    Jermaine O’Neal 

    Charlotte Bobcats:
    Shaun Livingston
    Matt Carroll
    Dante Cunningham
    Tyrus Thomas
    Joel Przybilla(D.J. White)

    Chicago Bulls:
    C.J. Watson
    Kyle Korver    
    Ronnie Brewer
    Taj Gibson
    Kurt Thomas

    Cleveland Cavaliers:
    Ramon Sessions
    Christian Eyenga
    Joey Graham
    Samardo Samuels
    Ryan Hollins 

    Dallas Mavericks:
    Jose Barea
    Jason Terry
    Predrag Stojakovic(Corey Brewer)
    Shawn Marion
    Brendan Haywood

    Denver Nuggets:
    Raymond Felton
    J.R. Smith
    Wilson Chandler
    Al Harrington
    Chris Andersen

    Detroit Pistons:
    Rodney Stuckey
    Ben Gordon 
    Austin Daye
    Charlie Villanueva
    Chris Wilcox

    Golden State Warriors:
    Acie Law
    Reggie Williams
    Al Thornton
    Louis Amundson
    Andris Biedrins(Ekpe Udoh)

    Houston Rockets:
    Goran Dragic
    Courtney Lee
    Terrence Williams
    Patrick Patterson(Jordan Hill)
    Brad Miller

    Indiana Pacers:
    A.J. Price
    Brandon Rush
    Mike Dunleavy
    Josh McRoberts
    Jeff Foster

    Los Angeles Clippers:
    Eric Bledsoe
    Randy Foye
    Al-Farouq Aminu
    Ike Diogu
    DeAndre Jordan

    Los Angeles Lakers:
    Steve Blake
    Shannon Brown
    Matt Barnes
    Lamar Odom
    Theo Ratliff

    Memphis Grizzlies:
    Greivis Vasquez
    O.J. Mayo
    Shane Battier
    Darrell Arthur
    Leon Powe

    Miami Heat :
    Mario Chalmers
    Mike Miller
    James Jones
    Udonis Haslem
    Joel Anthony

    Milwaukee Bucks:
    Keyon Dooling
    Michael Redd
    Corey Maggette
    Ersan Ilyasova
    Drew Gooden 

    Minnesota Timberwolves:
    Jonny Flynn
    Wayne Ellington
    Martell Webster
    Anthony Randolph
    Nikola Pekovic

    New Jersey Nets:
    Jordan Farmar
    Sasha Vujacic
    Travis Outlaw
    Brandan Wright
    Johan Petro

    New Orleans Hornets:
    Jarrett Jack
    Willie Green
    Quincy Pondexter
    Carl Landry  
    Jason Smith(Aaron Gray) 

    New York Knicks:
    Anthony Carter
    Toney Douglas
    Bill Walker
    Shawne Williams
    Jared Jeffries

    Oklahoma City Thunder:
    Eric Maynor
    Daequan Cook
    James Harden
    Nick Collison
    Nazr Mohammed

    Orlando Magic:
    Gilbert Arenas
    J.J. Redick
    Quentin Richardson
    Earl Clark
    Ryan Anderson

    Philadelphia 76ers:
    Lou Williams
    Evan Turner
    Andres Nocioni
    Thaddeus Young
    Marreese Speights

    Phoenix Suns:
    Aaron Brooks
    Vince Carter 
    Mickael Pietrus
    Hakim Warrick
    Robin Lopez 

    Portland Trail Blazers:
    Patrick Mills
    Rudy Fernandez
    Brandon Roy
    Gerald Wallace(Nicolas Batum) 
    Chris Johnson

    Sacramento Kings:
    Beno Udrih
    Jermaine Taylor
    Donte Greene
    Jason Thompson
    Darnell Jackson

    San Antonio Spurs:
    George Hill
    Gary Neal
    Danny Green(James Anderson)   
    Matt Bonner
    DeJuan Blair

    Toronto Raptors:
    Jerryd Bayless
    Leandro Barbosa
    Sonny Weems(Linas Kleiza)
    Ed Davis
    Reggie Evans

    Utah Jazz:
    Earl Watson
    CJ Miles
    Gordon Hayward
    Derrick Favors 
    Mehmet Okur

    Washington Wizards:
    Mustafa Shakur
    Jordan Crawford
    Josh Howard
    Trevor Booker
    Yi Jianlian(Kevin Seraphin)  
     

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  • #523703
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    providencefriars1
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    My top 5 bench teams would be Nuggets, Suns, Mavs, Lakers, Rockets.

    Nuggets- Plain and Simple they have 5 quality guys who could start on many NBA teams. Felton is a very good PG, Smith and Chandler can flat out score the ball and they are two of the most underrated perimeter guys in the NBA. Harrington is a great option at PF because he can step out and hit jumpshots and of course Anderson gives the defensive and shot blocking presence.

    Suns-Phoenix’s bench team is set up similar to the Nuggets. Brooks is a good PG, but Felton has the edge. The Suns have two good perimeter players but they cant score as well as Smith and Chandler, but Pietrus is a very good defender. Hakim Warrick gives you a versitale and athletic 4 and Lopez gives you interior defense. Overall Denver has the slight edge in personnel.

    Mavs-Another very very solid bench squad. Barea is a solid PG and their perimeter of Peja and Terry can flat out stroke it. Marion gives you an athletic 4 who can play outside like Harrington and Warrick and really thrives in transition. Haywood is a nice center who gives you more offense than Lopez or Anderson. Close pick between Phoenix and Dallas.

    Lakers-They have the best overall player, Lamar Odom, but lack a real playmaker. Blake who is a terrific shooter only averged 2.2 APG in 20 mins which is 5.3 per 48, not that impressive for a PG. Barnes and Brown are good perimeter players who can defened, but Ratliff who is a good shot blocker gives you the least offense out of all three previously mentioned 5’s.

    Rockets-This team screams versitility. Dragic is a good PG, Lee is a good wing who can give you some scoring, Williams who hasnt lived up to his potential yet was a very good all around player in college who gave you something in every statistical catagory. Patterson has played well this season when given time and Miller is a faceup 5 who can really shot the mid range jumpers well.

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  • #523731
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    SwatLakeCity
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     My feeling is that next year the Jazz’s backup lineup will be very good, so good that they will get back to the playoffs next season. Yes, I am but being a little bias and optimistic, of course, but I truly think its possible. Derrick Favors did very very well towards the end of the season. In April he averaged 9.75pts, 7.13 boards, and 1.75 blocks. Most of this was coming off the bench. (I think he only started one game in the month of April) That being said, if he works hard enough in the offseason I think he could start next year sending Millsap to the bench. Then depending on who the Jazz draft (Im hoping its Burks and T. Jones) If so then the Jazz can either move both Miles and Hayward to the bench or move Miles and put Jones on the bench. Both would be good moves. And then you have the fast, deceptive, and highflying backup PG in Ronnie Price.

    • Price
    • CJ Miles
    • T. Jones/Hayward
    • Millsap
    • Fez/Okur

    Dang good bench. You have Ronnie who I already mentioned is fast, highflying, and deceptive. CJ Miles who has had scoring outbursts before, expect him to have some more. both Jones and Hayward are good versatile swingman. You can’t forget Millsap. He practically averages a double double off the bench. (Remember he did that a lot when Utah had Boozer starting over him.) Expect him to do it again if Favors starts over him. 

    Watch out NBA, here comes another good bench that will surprise everyone again and allow Jazz to once again make the playoffs.

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  • #523751
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    mamadou
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    True suns bench since the trades, when the team tried a PO push(before injuries) was brooks-pietrus-dudley-warrick-gortat…childress out of the rotation, that was a pretty solid bench who could have beaten the starters(weak starting 5 however).

    Dudley-gortat beastin’ subs, Dudley and  his nose for the game, best dunker in the history of the game,+ gortat 17 double doubles from the bench, easily leads the nba.

    @paradigmn.

    Put the benchers numbers… for a back up squad.

    My 1st team, Sessions-JET-Young-Odom-Gortat.

    Take a look at those sessions numbers, he deserves as a true back up PG…

    Subs of the subs Lou-Crawford-Harden-Dudley-big baby.

    Honorable mention, the entire spurs bench, those hill-neal-bonner, ibaka was a great bencher when used to be.

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  • #523765
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    paradigmn
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     looks good!!!…my only complaints for subs of subs are HARDEN is a SG and DAVIS is a C.

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    • #523766
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      paradigmn
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       meant DAVIS is a PF….sorry….not good multi-tasker…lol

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      • #523779
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        mamadou
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        Yep that’s small ball subs of the subs, my top 10 subs in fact…

        I really don’t see a 2nd true back up C who deserves, many teams doesn’t have a legit back up C, or doesn’t play him.

        Nba…where asik and 38YO’s thomas happens…

        6’9-6’10 C or PF-C are the new rule, good thing for D12, good thing for Bismack, Kanter in that draft.

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