[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Who do you guys think is the better prospect? In my eyes, it’s gotta be Aminu…He has more size and length (measured in better) and seems more athletic to me…Both have a ways to go skill wise…Especially with their jumpers. Aminu is also a year younger.

So who would you rather have and why?

[Al-Farouq AminuParticipant]

You are right,

Aminu is a better prospect

[Lemons4LifeParticipant]

Aminu is good, Ebanks is good to. but Aminu gets my vote.

[td8118Participant]

Definitely think Ebanks….Aminu hasn’t impressed me that much Ebanks seems to have a more typical NBA game and is IMO a better athlethe and rebounder

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Aminu averaged more rebounds…I also think he’s a better athlete.

[Lemons4LifeParticipant]

Now that I think of it both are pretty equal. Aminu is more consistent I think though. Ebanks is better with athleticism and scoring. Don’t forget it also depends on who they play.

[JNixonParticipant]

What skill does Aminu possess thats better than Ebanks???? Omg, Aminu is going to be a poor NBA player when he declares unless he hs improved every perimeter tool he has in his arsenal (shot,handles,passing,) he is nothing more than a cutter and basic post up player on O. He does have the potential to be a defensive specialist though. Ebanks is the better prospect, and I think he will be better in the NBA.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Aminu is a mismatch threat…That’s what he is…How is Ebanks a better perimeter player? Aminu has better handles and a slightly better jumper…Ebanks was an atrocious shooter last year.

[JNixonParticipant]

Al Farouq cannot handle better than Ebanks, not at all. When did he even put the ball on the floor last year? For more than 1 or 2 dribbles? Never…he cant handle. And Ebanks was an “atrocious” shooter? then adjectives cant describe Aminu’s jumper. Ha…Aminu has no skill better than Ebanks. He has better size and he’s more of a leaper…but what else?

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Shot 12.5% from 3 and your gonna tell me hes a better shooter? He also showed no mid range game either…

I think neither are ready to be a wing in the league, but Aminu can be a good pf in the league…Ebanks can’t. That’s why I give the nod to Aminu.

[QHaynes20]

Ebanks…..I dont like Aminu that much. I think Ebanks is more the prototype SF then Aminu

[QHaynes20]

Aminu cannot play PF to me, his game is SF. Ebanks to me is a slasher more then a shooter but he does have a mid range game the issue is he played PF at time so he played against bigger players.

I would go Ebanks over Aminu if I needed a SF

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

I just think Aminu has more time to develop…He is a year younger…That means a lot when drafting a player.

[QHaynes20]

Both of them were Freshman last year….

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Aminu is a year younger…

[QHaynes20]

1 year….I would still take Ebanks

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

1 year is a lot man imagine if Al was the same age as Devin last year…Physically and skill wise that would make quite a bit of difference. When your that young it makes a difference.

[JNixonParticipant]

Aminu shot 18% for 3…its better but its not anything to brag and say he’s a better shooter. Both statistically shot poorly, but Ebanks has more potentia, and a better stroke as a perimeter shooter. Aminu also doesnt have a position, and talk about a mid range game? When has Aminu shown a mid_range game? And how can you say Ebanks foesnt have a mid-range game? I dont think you’ve watched him, because he has decent mid-range skills, just not a lot of range (ala Derozan). And Ebanks played in the Big East, so for you to say Aminu played tougher competition is also a false statement.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Yeah I took that back Ebanks played tougher competition…But how does Ebanks show more potential as a perimiter shooter?

Yes, I have seen Ebanks play and I’ll I’ve seen him do is slash and rebound…You say Aminu doesn’t have a position…Well either does Ebanks because he is NOT a sf in the NBA…at least not yet!

[QHaynes20]

There are difference cases….Both of these guys are teens. Ebanks would be 20 in the NBA and Aminu 19….

Both would have been 1st rounders…..To me, there are different cases for every player. Just because your a year younger doesn’t always make you a better player…or have more potential

[gatorheelsParticipant]

I’m not sure who I would take here to be honest but I would lean towards Ebanks right now.  I liked what I saw from him last season.  Ebanks showed flashes of greatness.  He made some very spectacular plays but he just needs to be more consistent.  Everytime I watched Wake Forest this season I didn’t even notice Aminu really.  It was all about Teague & James Johnson. Aminu will get his time to shine this year & I expect him to rise to the occasion.  After the season I may be taking Aminu over Ebanks haha who knows.  They both should have solid years.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Yeah…I mean it’s tough. draftexpress currently has Aminu ahead of Ebanks, but there’s still a whole season to be played…Who knows?

[JNixonParticipant]

Devin Ebanks has the potential to be a better shooter because he has much better mechanics and touch han Aminu. As ofnow, Ebanks is much more of a wing player than Aminu. He can at least be a factor in the dribble drive, Aminu cant even get to the rim in a straight line in the dribble drive. I watched him alot whole lot last year and in HS and he loses all control of the ball after 2 or at the absolute most 3 dribbles. Ebanks also is a smarter player and he is better at every aspect except shooting (which is a push) currently.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

I feel that Al is the best overall defender in the nation(next to Jarvis Vernando and maybe Larry Sanders). He is able to guard multiple positions effectively. He is also a much better post player. I would say overall Al also gets the nod in athleticism…He is very quick off his feet and has great lateral quickness. He gets to the line at a better clip, shoots a higher fg % and rebounds slightly better (Wake had better big men so they took away some of his rebounding). Statistically, Al is better in virtually every category. And like I said earlier, he is a year younger and that means a lot physically and skill wise…

[JNixonParticipant]

Skill wise I thought I said it, but Aminu has no skill he’s better at. I guess on D, but he isnt the 3rd best defender in the nation. JT Tiller, Tevor Booker, Cole Aldrich, Damion James and Jerry Smith are all better defenders than him off the top of my head. Aminu showed nothing special on D last year, but he does have the tools to be a an elite defender.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Skill wise maybe…I just like what Al brings to the table…I think they will both be good nba players who at the very least are starters or very good 6th men.

[QHaynes20]

I wish aran was on….he has Ebanks higher then Aminu

[nepaliman_7Participant]

aminu. they were pretty much equals do to aminu’s better defense and ebanks’s better handling. but aminu is a year younger and more anthletic.

[QHaynes20]

Who’s better John Wall or Brandon Knight

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

That’s a hard question…I’m gonna say Wall. Just because of his unbelievable explosiveness and quickness. I haven’t seen Knight as much either.

[ZaratukParticipant]

Offense: Devin Ebanks

Defence: Al-Farouq Aminu

Potential: Al-Farouq Aminu

Athletism: Al-Farouq Aminu

I think that Ebanks only has a edge on offense on Aminu and it’s not like it is by a high margin. Aminu will create mismatch in the league but he is more of a PF to me though, but i think he will develop into a reliable SF.

Al-Farouq Aminu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwHm81oXlY8

[R-Dot-13Participant]

To be honest, i like Knights game better.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

I still think Barnes is better, and I still put Wall over both of them…That class is looking real nice. A lot better than I thought it was.

[JNixonParticipant]

Wow, I dont see what all the fuss about Aminu is. He isnt very good at any area, only being a good defender. Everything else is just overblown with him. He does have size and run jump athleticism but he does nothing as a player except defend and finish right at rim on an NBA level. He seriously doesnt have a lot of promising offensive skills. He projects as a 4th or 5th option on offense.

Ebanks has the potential to be a 2nd option and he looks more promising on O than Aminu. He also could be a great defender, but he’s weak and loses focus as a young guy. He
has good size for a 3, and he has a more versatile game than Aminu. He also is quicker and more explosive. Much more skilled and polished, and is still raw with just as much upside as Aminu. I’d definitely choose Ebanks.

And I’d take Wall Q…

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Wow, I don’t see what all the fuss about Ebanks is…He isn’t very good at any area, only being a good rebounder. Everything else is just overblown with him. He does have decent size and run jump athleticism but he does nothing as a player except slash and shoot 12.5 percent from 3. He seriously doesn’t have a lot of promising offensive skills. He projects as a 3rd or 4th option on offense.

Aminu has the potential to be a 3rd or 2nd option and he looks more promising on O and D than Ebanks. He already is a good defender, and can only get better (which you know he will, he’s a coachable kid).
He has great size for the SF position and good size for the 4 position. He is a more versatile player than Ebanks because he plays d, post up smaller players, and uses his athleticism/quickness against bigger forwards…He has elite level mismatch potential. He is already better than Ebanks, and oh…Guess what? He is a year younger and is a very coachable kid…I’d definitely take choose Aminu.

[tli232]

ok… Haven’t been on this site in a few days. So… the User Al-Farooq Aminu has stopped refering to Al Farooq Aminu (the player) as “me” ? Did he finally realize after months and months that no one actually believes him and that he should just give up?

[JNixonParticipant]

How clever..you reversed my post

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Yeah…Look Iggy, both are good prospects and should be lottery picks. I like Aminu, because of his mismatch potential and defense…You like Ebanks because of his offensive potential and ball handling…I can see why. I’ve watched way more Wake Forest games than WV…So I may be a little biased lol.

tli232-Yeah…He’s not Al-Farouq Aminu LOL.

[JNixonParticipant]

How does Aminu have 2nd or 3rd option potential when he cant dribble or shoot? Or even pass?

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

“How does Aminu have 2nd or 3rd option potential when he cant dribble or shoot? Or even pass?”

Hey buddy I can say the same thing about Ebanks…Anyhow, like I said, mismatch potential…He can post up smaller players and take bigger players off the dribble…Also off of pure hustle points because he is a good offensive rebounder…I think the handles and jumper will come this year…Same with Ebanks.

[JNixonParticipant]

Ebanks beat players off the dribble, and posted. And Im including transition baskets because of my question. He also is a better passer than Aminu by a mile, showing the ability to even play minutes at the point. When he gets range on his jumper and improves his handle to the point where its not a limit he can be a 3rd option at worst on offense. Everything else is set.

Aminu needs to improve every single thing offensively, except dunking.

[JNixonParticipant]

Thank you, I dont know about his “nice” post game business…he isnt exactly using headfakes and left and right foot pivot moves to sell his defender. He keeps it very very simple with drop steps and spins. He doesnt have the most diverse arsenal of moves, so he’s not a potential PF unless he develops more down low.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Is he could develop into a very good post player…He is very young and I wouldn’t be surprised if he developed his post moves even more…Headfakes and pivot moves like you said.

[JNixonParticipant]

That looks alot like the strengths of Solomon Jones or even Stephen Hunter. Not a guy that can be a 2nd or 3rd option.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Now your comparing him to guys who are strictly PF’S and can’t dribble? Come on now…He has more skills and more upside than those two put together.

[JNixonParticipant]

Aminu has one thing in common with them at least (he cant dribble). Im just going off of what you posted.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

I think your underrating his ball handling…He can go coast to coast (i’ve seen it many times) and can beat people off of the dribble…I’m not saying he’s Steve Nash, but come on…He definitely needs to tighten his handles…No argument there.

[QHaynes20]

you are blowing Aminu like you are a fat chick and he is president.

LOL

[QHaynes20]

But Aran has EBanks higher then Aminu….

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Draftexpress has Aminu higher…No offense to Aran, but draftexpress is much more credible…

[JNixonParticipant]

Pretty much all 6’8 guys that play on the wing in college can dribble coast to coast, but when he has a defender on him with the ball he is limited to 2 or 3 dribbles. Just because you can take the ball coast to coast doesnt mean you cant be a very poor ball-handler. Its simple. I’ve never seen him beat his man off the dribble with any hesitation moves or creative dribbles to keep a guy off balanced, he usually takes it to the rim in a straight line if the lane is open. That makes him a poor ball-handler. He doesnt even show an ability to pull up off the dribble. He’s a poor handler and will never be able to create his own shots until it shows alot of improvement.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

“Ebanks is attractive mostly thanks to his intriguing combination of size, length, athleticism and aggressiveness at the combo forward position. He’s not a particularly polished player at this point, with most of his offense coming in transition, on the offensive glass or off cuts to the basket, but he does find a way to be productive despite his limitations. Ebanks is capable of taking players off the dribble despite possessing shaky ball-handling skills–he has no left hand to speak of, and can’t really change directions with the ball or execute advanced moves—but his long strides and nice quickness do allow him to get to the rim from time to time. He lacks the strength to finish through contact, but he can be fairly effective in the paint regardless thanks to his length and explosiveness. “

[QHaynes20]

I’m gonna go with Aran….I think he knows more.

Ebanks: better then Aminu

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Aran also said B-Roys potential is 6/10…You gonna take his side there to?

[QHaynes20]

Yea, I’m still going with Aran.

At least he has the balls to rate players.

Plus, B-roy’s game really didn’t change since college. He did get better but I dont see him improving from here

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

That’s what they’ve always said about B-Roy…”oh, he is good, but he doesn’t show much potential”.

Yeah that’s what people said his rookie year and his 2nd year in the league…What happend? ROY, all-star and 2nd time all-star with 2nd team all-nba and leading the youngest team in the NBA to a very good seed in the very deep West…Don’t even start.

[JNixonParticipant]

But what do YOU think? Its been Draftexpress this and Aran gave BRoy that, what have you picked up on Ebanks watching him?

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

A lot…First off, he is a terrific rebounder. Will probably average 6-7 in the league…He shows solid court vision and is very athletic. He can handle the ball, but that’s not his calling card and he needs to tighten his handle…He shows plenty of potential on the defensive side of the ball. He just needs experience and discipline on that side of the ball…He had no jump shot last year, but in HS he has very good…Maybe he can turn that around? He is very weak physically…Which isn’t a surprise. He is only 19.

I like him a lot…ALL I AM SAYING is that I like Al better…Neither will be all-stars.

[QHaynes20]

The Blazers won in the West and almost got swept by a 2 man team…Yao looked like Wilt out there.

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Like I said, the youngest team in the NBA with no playoff experience…What do you expect? A championship? LOL.

[JNixonParticipant]

Yea he has gotten high basketball skills better, you dont have to be an elite run and jump athlete to have potential. Just get your basketball skills up to as close to perfection as you can and you’ll get better.

[QHaynes20]

At Least 2 wins against a team without there best player

[blazer_fan_foreverParticipant]

Is not their best player…Yao is. Funny, T-Mac could never get past the first round WITH Yao, but T-Mac gets injured, Yao leads his team to the second round…

Funny how life works?

Oh yeah, Q…Portland did win 2 games…

[QHaynes20]

Barely. I hear all this “Portland is deep”….they needed 40plus from B-Roy to win 1.

They better grow up fast or there gonna be a team who is talented who wont win a title….I think OKC has better talent

[Michael.S.Participant]

No McGrady is the best player on the Rockets and will be as long as he’s wearing a Houston Rockets jersey.
I absolutely HATE when we all point the finger at 1 player,its a team game, sure he was the Star, and go-to-guy on the team but he always played out of his mind in the playoff’s, his team just couldn’t get it done.

[QHaynes20]

I didn’t point to Roy.

[JNixonParticipant]

Al-Farouq will average about 7 boards, and he will be a good defender. But he is not anything special on offense, and he will probably never will be. I promise you he’s a 4th option at best, as a cutter and finisher at the immediate basket area. He would be a defensive role player in the NBA, like Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. Thats his future IMO, and the player he’s most like.

Ebanks could be a 2nd option in the NBA, he’s has all the tools and flashes it now. He gets to the rim without good handles, imagine if his handles even where average. His jumper was good in HS, and he has all the things you in a shooter. He is already better than Aminu offensively, and getting a better handle would take him to a high-level scorer. He is already an outstanding defender, and thats what he’s role was as a frosh more than anything (lockdown perimeter matchups). He has more promise. Plain and simple.

[QHaynes20]

I think that should be the golden rule on this forum

“Read before posting”

[Michael.S.Participant]

FYI i was directing that post at Blazer Fan Forever.

[ZaratukParticipant]

”But he is not anything special on offense, and he will probably never will be”

@ Iggy: What makes you say that?

Anyway I think Devin ebanks is better right now, but down the road i’ll have to give the edge to Aminu. The nba game is getting more and more versatile and like draftexpress said Aminu is a combo foward whhile Ebanks is a foward with shaky handles…

Iggy on what team do you see Ebanks becoming a 2nd option?

I mean 22 points in 42 minutes against syracuse was his ncaa career high

[JNixonParticipant]

Ebanks shows more potential in every area, he has better mechanics on his shot and better touch and is good from mid-range.He can get to the basket, even though he isnt a good ball handler so imagine what he’ll do with handles. He can pass well, and has the potential to be a point forward. He could play any positon from the 1-3 with more polish, and can even do it now without alot of polish and even play the 4.

Aminu is horrible at every perimeter skill, he shows little ability to get to the rim off the dribble,he needs handling skills to get to the rim unlike Ebanks. He has no jumper or the foundation of a good jumper (outside of a high release),not even from mid range,he doesnt pass good at all, he is a 4 in a 3 man’s body and will always be until he develop at least 1 perimeter skill. Ebanks has the ability to play 1-4, Aminu is a 4 and 3.

Thats why I dont see Aminu as a good offensive threat ever. He has no skill on offense that is considered higher than
below average, except catching and finishing. He’s basically a good sized athlete.

[Henry25Participant]

i choose Aminu, but i have one question, why does NBAdraft.net give Ebanks such a good jumper when he really doesnt have one?

[JNixonParticipant]

Ebanks has a nice jumper, he just doesnt have range. He also was a great shooter in HS. Just because he didnt shoot good 3’s last year doesnt mean he cant shoot. Ruoff was their shooter and Butler was too, Ebanks played as a PF last yr and was hardly ever encouraged to shoot 3’s, mostly mid-range shots, which he made at a more than decent rate. Kind of like how Marvin Williams was considered a good shooter before last year, and rightfully so, even though he was a poor 3 point shooter statistically. Just because you cant hit 3’s doesnt mean you cant shoot.

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