[jjonzParticipant]

Easily one of the worst draft day trades ever. In football you draft a player NickNamed Tractor, but in Basketball that’s a not nickname i’d be willing to gamble on. This1998 draft day trade was on of the worst.

In the Bucks defense maybe they did’nt have the $$ to scout overseas, who knew Dirk would be as good as he is now. And they were stacked all ready

PG Cassel/TBrandon

SG.RAllen/DCurry

SF BigDog/

PF This is the dilema they drafted the Tractor & They already had TThomas on the Roster. So Dirk would have been a log jam problem @ PF

C.Ervin Johnson (No not that Ervin Johnson this Guy had no Magic to his game)

So this team was fairly put together they won a couple of playoff games got the fanbase excited but nothing materalized.

Just imagine RAllen growing and developing with Dirk, that could have been Great. But ooh well. These are the mistakes that hold franchise back 10 years. The Bucks just don’t seem to make the right decisions that can take a small market team & make them excell. Who would take Bogut Over CPaul/DWilliams? Then last year after going to the playoffs John Hammonds won Exec of the Year. He goes & justifies that award by giving out 90 mill $$$ to players close to or on the wrong side of 30. DGooden 5/35 mill CMaggette/3yr30mill JSalmons/4yr 28mill. Smart teams make smart decision in the drafts and in FA.

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

It was honestly an awful trade, but even with Nowitzki that team would have had issues. If you do not recall, Tim Thomas and Glenn Robinson kind of clashed, as Thomas was pretty much the same type of player. This team had talent, and would have been much better with Nowitzki, but it was getting down to the grind of having to trade Big Dog or TT. Ray Allen and Dirk would have been a really cool combo though, no doubt about that. Did you read the article about the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar trade from Milwaukee though? Just know, Milwaukee has a very difficult time keeping players, and the line-up you post is full of offensive firepower, but would lack a lot of strength, rebounding and therefore defense.

Paul and Williams seem like obvious picks over Bogut now, and there were plenty of arguments for Paul to be the pick at 1-2 at the time, but it is really difficult to find a Center, and that Milwaukee team was getting killed inside. Not to say that Paul or Williams would not make them a better team, but they would still have needed a lot of rebuilding, and come free agent time, would they have been able to keep either of those guys? It is sad to say, but they probably made the right pick in Bogut. He actually seems to be loyal and willing to stay in Milwaukee, and I am guessing he will stay there for quite a while. It would not be a sure thing if Milwaukee had a solid squad, but would CP3 and D-Will have not been on the first bus out of town and begging for a trade under the Bucks current circumstances? You need to look at the big picture, things are not always as simple as being able to maintain a team exactly the way it is. With a team like Milwaukee, they sadly enough need to take certain factors into account. They have made a number of poor moves, but they have a very tough time attracting players to Wisconsin and keeping them there.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

It was honestly an awful trade, but even with Nowitzki that team would have had issues. If you do not recall, Tim Thomas and Glenn Robinson kind of clashed, as Thomas was pretty much the same type of player. This team had talent, and would have been much better with Nowitzki, but it was getting down to the grind of having to trade Big Dog or TT. Ray Allen and Dirk would have been a really cool combo though, no doubt about that. Did you read the article about the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar trade from Milwaukee though? Just know, Milwaukee has a very difficult time keeping players, and the line-up you post is full of offensive firepower, but would lack a lot of strength, rebounding and therefore defense.

Paul and Williams seem like obvious picks over Bogut now, and there were plenty of arguments for Paul to be the pick at 1-2 at the time, but it is really difficult to find a Center, and that Milwaukee team was getting killed inside. Not to say that Paul or Williams would not make them a better team, but they would still have needed a lot of rebuilding, and come free agent time, would they have been able to keep either of those guys? It is sad to say, but they probably made the right pick in Bogut. He actually seems to be loyal and willing to stay in Milwaukee, and I am guessing he will stay there for quite a while. It would not be a sure thing if Milwaukee had a solid squad, but would CP3 and D-Will have not been on the first bus out of town and begging for a trade under the Bucks current circumstances? You need to look at the big picture, things are not always as simple as being able to maintain a team exactly the way it is. With a team like Milwaukee, they sadly enough need to take certain factors into account. They have made a number of poor moves, but they have a very tough time attracting players to Wisconsin and keeping them there.

[jjonzParticipant]

yeah i meant to look @ that yesterday i forgot, so i’ll go check that out now. i guess the same thing can be said about any small market/ terrible winter climate/ in the MidWest besides Chicago More than $ it’s drafting and signing players who want to play for your city. Minny had a chance with KG/Cassel/Sprweel. before they broke up the team/& sprweel had to feed his family.

[jjonzParticipant]

yeah i meant to look @ that yesterday i forgot, so i’ll go check that out now. i guess the same thing can be said about any small market/ terrible winter climate/ in the MidWest besides Chicago More than $ it’s drafting and signing players who want to play for your city. Minny had a chance with KG/Cassel/Sprweel. before they broke up the team/& sprweel had to feed his family.

[Moon RiverParticipant]

I think it would have been difficult to pass up Bogut as well.  It was a need pick for Milwaukee and I think, for the most part, Bogut has been solid for them.

I have no idea what they do now though.  I was stunned by the Salmons and Gooden signings and they will regret those.  I think Magette’s contract comes off the books in 2012 so not a completely horrible situation.  I know they get some relief when Redd’s contract comes off the books this summer, but they will most likely need that money to keep Jennings around.  I like Bogut, Luc Mbah, Jennings and the rookier Sanders, but I would not consider any of them elite or able to carry a team.  I am not sure of the direction of this team. 

[Moon RiverParticipant]

I think it would have been difficult to pass up Bogut as well.  It was a need pick for Milwaukee and I think, for the most part, Bogut has been solid for them.

I have no idea what they do now though.  I was stunned by the Salmons and Gooden signings and they will regret those.  I think Magette’s contract comes off the books in 2012 so not a completely horrible situation.  I know they get some relief when Redd’s contract comes off the books this summer, but they will most likely need that money to keep Jennings around.  I like Bogut, Luc Mbah, Jennings and the rookier Sanders, but I would not consider any of them elite or able to carry a team.  I am not sure of the direction of this team. 

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Sometimes getting compared to a successful player can help and sometimes it hurts..

Traylor was compared to Barkley coming out of college..He was an exciting player to watch..He could rebound the and dribble the ball the length of the floor and make a play…Sometimes a guy can have the skills to be great,but dont have the desire or work athic to obtain it….

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Sometimes getting compared to a successful player can help and sometimes it hurts..

Traylor was compared to Barkley coming out of college..He was an exciting player to watch..He could rebound the and dribble the ball the length of the floor and make a play…Sometimes a guy can have the skills to be great,but dont have the desire or work athic to obtain it….

[OhCanada-Participant]

Cant pass up on Bogut, he was the top prospect and also a 7’1 280 pound Center with skills. I doubt anybody would have passed up on Bogut besides maybe Atlanta who were just horrible at drafting. They needed a PG and passed up on 2, I still dont understand that at all.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Cant pass up on Bogut, he was the top prospect and also a 7’1 280 pound Center with skills. I doubt anybody would have passed up on Bogut besides maybe Atlanta who were just horrible at drafting. They needed a PG and passed up on 2, I still dont understand that at all.

[OhCanada-Participant]

As for the Salmons, Gooden and Maggette signings really what else can they do. They were at the point where it seemed like they were too good to try building through the draft or they would end up with 10th and 11th overall selections. They cant sign Lebron, Wade, Bosh, JJ, Amare etc. so all they could really do was make the wisest moves and acquire the best players possible to improve for playoff contention, and hope Jennings and Bogut take their game to the next level.

[jjonzParticipant]

to me it’s like why spend $$$ just to spend it they could have made a few roster moves this year to sign backups. Let the chips fall where they may as far as the season goes. Don’t sign none of those guy’s & let MRedd 18mill come off the books that would have given them roughly 27-30mill to spend this offseason & with that $$ they could have added David West/or Nene/& S.Battier since Scott Skiles loves defense & hustle guy’s/ & Use this year’s draft pick for an upside guy. They will go into the Next CBA period with at least 3 dead contracts, Because Salmon’s plays for $$$/by that i mean he is great in contract years/ CMaggette is a # guy Check his career/DGooden will give them 10ppg/8rebs for 62 games a yr, bound to miss 15-20 games a year. So tell me how was that wise? Those were Contract killing moves for this franchise.

[jjonzParticipant]

to me it’s like why spend $$$ just to spend it they could have made a few roster moves this year to sign backups. Let the chips fall where they may as far as the season goes. Don’t sign none of those guy’s & let MRedd 18mill come off the books that would have given them roughly 27-30mill to spend this offseason & with that $$ they could have added David West/or Nene/& S.Battier since Scott Skiles loves defense & hustle guy’s/ & Use this year’s draft pick for an upside guy. They will go into the Next CBA period with at least 3 dead contracts, Because Salmon’s plays for $$$/by that i mean he is great in contract years/ CMaggette is a # guy Check his career/DGooden will give them 10ppg/8rebs for 62 games a yr, bound to miss 15-20 games a year. So tell me how was that wise? Those were Contract killing moves for this franchise.

[OhCanada-Participant]

As for the Salmons, Gooden and Maggette signings really what else can they do. They were at the point where it seemed like they were too good to try building through the draft or they would end up with 10th and 11th overall selections. They cant sign Lebron, Wade, Bosh, JJ, Amare etc. so all they could really do was make the wisest moves and acquire the best players possible to improve for playoff contention, and hope Jennings and Bogut take their game to the next level.

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