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  • #61990
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    So we are in the 3rd or 4th year of the "5 year plan" 76ers fans seem to be preaching. Yet the Sixers have had high draft picks every year the last 3 or 4 years and have drafted exactly ONE guy who could be a star…

    Jahlil Okafor

    And literally everybody else sucks, Sam the slimeball Hinkie has swung and missed on nearly every draft pick he has had and finally hit a double with Okafor, so that makes exactly ONE guy they can build their team around. I have never seen such blatant intent to lose in any sport, Hinkie is destroying these kids confidence and psyche, even if teams are tanking they are at least TRYING to establish a winning culture. While Hinkie thinks he can cheat the system and employ a terrible team with a terrible coach so he thinks he’s entitled to the next young star. The Sixers need to be punished with the worst draft pick they can get for this obvious "suck for Simmons" scheme. Besides, even if the Sixers accumulate more young talent, these kids don’t know how to win, they have done nothing but lose the last 5 years. So Hinkie just thinks magically these kids are going to wake up winners and suddenly they are going deep in the playoffs. Not going to happen, this team still knows how to do nothing but LOSE. So another 3 or 4 years from now. They’ll be stuck on the same mediocrity wheel, have one star player (Okafor) and a bunch of scrubs. Eventually Okafor isn’t going to be able to take the losing anymore and is going to bolt the second he hits free agency. And I don’t blame him, the Sixers are an embarassment to basketball. Period.

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  • #1027159
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    Meditated States
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     I give you exhibit A on why it is unwise in the NBA.

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    • #1027405
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       same question of the people complaining:

      "Tell what you would have done differently than Hinkie….?"

      Not one person has even attempted to answer…. No one likes the tanking but every bad team does it to varying degrees & tanking is more a reflection of the ridiculous League rules that force teams to suffer for years if they make mistakes signing a player…..

      What’s that old saying… "Don’t hate the player, hate the game…."

      Sixers are the first team who have admitted their intentions but if anyone thinks they are the first or the worst w/ regards to tanking – you must believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus & that Jesus had golden blonde hair & blue eyes….

       

       

       

       

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    • #1027270
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       same question of the people complaining:

      "Tell what you would have done differently than Hinkie….?"

      Not one person has even attempted to answer…. No one likes the tanking but every bad team does it to varying degrees & tanking is more a reflection of the ridiculous League rules that force teams to suffer for years if they make mistakes signing a player…..

      What’s that old saying… "Don’t hate the player, hate the game…."

      Sixers are the first team who have admitted their intentions but if anyone thinks they are the first or the worst w/ regards to tanking – you must believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus & that Jesus had golden blonde hair & blue eyes….

       

       

       

       

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      • #1027354
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        "Tell what you would have done differently than Hinkie….?"

        First off I’d stop getting rid of the few decent players I had. Everytime someone shows a flash of decent play in Philly they’re gone soon after, you will never rebuild if you keep getting rid of the guys with promise.

        Secondly, I’d stop giving contracts to random high school players and sign some actual vets that can give some good minutes here & there and help develop & mature the young guys.

        At this point these kids are almost being mentally abused, they’re being brainwashed to think losing is okay and not a big deal. Even if they keep tanking and get a few more top picks they’re going to be so demoralized that they still won’t win. They simply need to keep the decent players, ship out the random D Leaguers, and sign a few vets. Sure, most good players would refuse to play there, but there’s a lot of decent players in free agency that are better than most of the Sixers roster that will sign just because they want to play.

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        • #1027374
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          B/c your answer is not an answer….. they did not dismantle a winning team – they dismantled a team that had already been broken down & won about 30 games in 2012 (the year before Hinkie arrived)
           
           The question is what would you have done differently to rebuild the team???

           I’m not saying I like it but Doug Collins – they guy who made the Bynum trade should be getting the venom…. 

          And as for your psychoanalysis – Golden State tanked like a machine for 4 years between 2009 – 2012…. winning 26, 29, 36 & 23 games….. They seem extrememly psychologically damaged….

          And where is the Anger at teams like Sacramento & Minnesota who will both complete their 10th straight losing season….. 

          10 years is worse than 3 right??? 

           

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          • #1027877
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            26, 29, 36 & 23 is better than 19, 18 & 0. There’s a difference in a bad team, and a team with no hope or light at the end of the tunnel which is where the 76ers are right now. They are pathetically bad, and only seem to keep getting worse instead of better. If they don’t at least TRY and get some wins soon, then all of these "core" guys they’ve been tanking for will just leave as soon as their rookie contract is up, and then where are you? Absolutely screwed.

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          • #1027742
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            26, 29, 36 & 23 is better than 19, 18 & 0. There’s a difference in a bad team, and a team with no hope or light at the end of the tunnel which is where the 76ers are right now. They are pathetically bad, and only seem to keep getting worse instead of better. If they don’t at least TRY and get some wins soon, then all of these "core" guys they’ve been tanking for will just leave as soon as their rookie contract is up, and then where are you? Absolutely screwed.

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            • #1027884
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               Golden State won 21, 19, 17, 19 & 21 games….. Don’t misunderstand me – I’m not defending Phila… I can Not stand what they are doing…. I am SO sick of reading threads about who they are going to draft next year…. All last year I heard the same garbage….. In 3 years of tanking they have Two 7 foot centers & One can’t score & the other one can’t defend…. It’ll be YEARS before they make the playoffs again…..

              But there are TONS of teams just losing Constantly….. I know there is a big difference between 19 wins & 30 wins but it’s not a Huge difference… it’s still losing basketball…. I think the League needs to change something b/c there are very few teams that actually have a legit chance of winning….. And these teams just lose & lose for Years…. & it never changes for most of these franchises….

               

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            • #1028019
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               Golden State won 21, 19, 17, 19 & 21 games….. Don’t misunderstand me – I’m not defending Phila… I can Not stand what they are doing…. I am SO sick of reading threads about who they are going to draft next year…. All last year I heard the same garbage….. In 3 years of tanking they have Two 7 foot centers & One can’t score & the other one can’t defend…. It’ll be YEARS before they make the playoffs again…..

              But there are TONS of teams just losing Constantly….. I know there is a big difference between 19 wins & 30 wins but it’s not a Huge difference… it’s still losing basketball…. I think the League needs to change something b/c there are very few teams that actually have a legit chance of winning….. And these teams just lose & lose for Years…. & it never changes for most of these franchises….

               

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        • #1027509
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          B/c your answer is not an answer….. they did not dismantle a winning team – they dismantled a team that had already been broken down & won about 30 games in 2012 (the year before Hinkie arrived)
           
           The question is what would you have done differently to rebuild the team???

           I’m not saying I like it but Doug Collins – they guy who made the Bynum trade should be getting the venom…. 

          And as for your psychoanalysis – Golden State tanked like a machine for 4 years between 2009 – 2012…. winning 26, 29, 36 & 23 games….. They seem extrememly psychologically damaged….

          And where is the Anger at teams like Sacramento & Minnesota who will both complete their 10th straight losing season….. 

          10 years is worse than 3 right??? 

           

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        • #1027382
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           The weird thing about Hinkie’s plan is most of his moves make sense in isolation. I think trading KJ McDaniels was a bad move (why give up a young piece who could be part of your team going forward), but that is only a minor mistake (the cost at worst is a fringe rotation player). The real problem is what he has not done. In his effort to tank, he has avoided signing veterans to tutor the young guys. This is hurting his young guys development, which is why this plan will fail

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        • #1027516
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           The weird thing about Hinkie’s plan is most of his moves make sense in isolation. I think trading KJ McDaniels was a bad move (why give up a young piece who could be part of your team going forward), but that is only a minor mistake (the cost at worst is a fringe rotation player). The real problem is what he has not done. In his effort to tank, he has avoided signing veterans to tutor the young guys. This is hurting his young guys development, which is why this plan will fail

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        • #1027625
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           I mean, if playing well was all they had to do to get out of Philly, I’d be in the gym 10 hours a day.

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        • #1027492
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           I mean, if playing well was all they had to do to get out of Philly, I’d be in the gym 10 hours a day.

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      • #1027489
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        "Tell what you would have done differently than Hinkie….?"

        First off I’d stop getting rid of the few decent players I had. Everytime someone shows a flash of decent play in Philly they’re gone soon after, you will never rebuild if you keep getting rid of the guys with promise.

        Secondly, I’d stop giving contracts to random high school players and sign some actual vets that can give some good minutes here & there and help develop & mature the young guys.

        At this point these kids are almost being mentally abused, they’re being brainwashed to think losing is okay and not a big deal. Even if they keep tanking and get a few more top picks they’re going to be so demoralized that they still won’t win. They simply need to keep the decent players, ship out the random D Leaguers, and sign a few vets. Sure, most good players would refuse to play there, but there’s a lot of decent players in free agency that are better than most of the Sixers roster that will sign just because they want to play.

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  • #1027292
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     I give you exhibit A on why it is unwise in the NBA.

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  • #1027161
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     Exactly Sam Hinkie has this perverted approach to building a team, hes obviously not a basketball guy and doesnt realize his players wont develop being in a situation like the one hes creating.. Ive never liked this guy he literally has set this team back with his little experiment.. Even if these draft picks pan out.. What is he going to do after the rookie contracts when all these guys eventually want to live to the staus of the pick they were taken at.. Hes a dipsh:t.. 

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  • #1027294
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     Exactly Sam Hinkie has this perverted approach to building a team, hes obviously not a basketball guy and doesnt realize his players wont develop being in a situation like the one hes creating.. Ive never liked this guy he literally has set this team back with his little experiment.. Even if these draft picks pan out.. What is he going to do after the rookie contracts when all these guys eventually want to live to the staus of the pick they were taken at.. Hes a dipsh:t.. 

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  • #1027175
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     I would love to watch Hinkie play 2k association for a few hours and see what happens.

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  • #1027308
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    Magic Jordan
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     I would love to watch Hinkie play 2k association for a few hours and see what happens.

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  • #1027180
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    In the NBA, the worst thing that you can be is average.  You can’t win a championship, and you can’t get the player(s) needed to be a championship level team.  The 76ers have no plan other than to keep sucking and getting players.  You have to invest in the players you pick and let them grow as a team.  They need to take a page from Oklahoma City.  They did this perfectly.

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    • #1027360
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      OKC just got lucky, really lucky; and this comes from an OKC fan. Almost every draft pick turned out much better than expected, aside from those few Centers they kept trying to draft (Swift, Sene, Petro, etc.)

      Durant – They lucked out here, Oden was the #1 pick and everyone thought he was going to be a franchise player and then injuries happened. What if Oden got injured in college and Durant went #1 instead?

      Westbrook – He was good, but no one knew he would be this good. He wasn’t even the best PG in his draft at the time, Rose was. While yes Rose did look better at one point, injuries happened and now he’s barely starting material. The other two guys picked above Westbrook? Michael Beasley & O.J. Mayo, both expected to be All-Star caliber players, well they’re scrubs.

      Ibaka – At the time of his drafting he was relatively unknown, and the few highlights of him just showed him dunking a lot. It looked like his effective scoring range was about 5 foot. My God did he develop a jump shot though, and who would have thought he’d be the leagues premiere shot-blocker? He was picked 24th, and is arguably better than almost everyone picked before him. To give a few examples of bigs picked before him: Michael Beasley, Kevin love, Joe Alexander, Brook Lopez, Jason Thompson, Anthony Randolph, Robin Lopez, Marresse Speights, Roy Hibbert, Javale McGee, J.J. Hickson, Alexis Ajinca, Ryan Anderson, Kosta Koufos. The only guys on that list that could even be considered comparable to him would be Brook Lopez & Kevin Love, and many would choose Ibaka over those guys.

      Harden – While no longer with the team, he did help the team for a few years and was still a pick of luck. He fell into OKC hands after Memphis took Hasheem Thabeet at #2. What if Grizzlies took Harden instead? They’d not only be an even better team than they are now (which is scary because they’ve been very good the last few years) but OKC would have chosen Thabeet, because they still drastically needed a Center at the time. Thabeet is the lord of all scrubs and possibly the worst #2 pick of all time. Ironically Thabeet still ended up on OKC for a couple of years but he was a bench-warmer and eventually let go. Sure people give OKC crap for the Harden trade, but think about if they had to pick Thabeet instead at #3, that would have been even more tragic.

      Sam Presti is known for his drafting skills, and I’ll say he does have a good eye for talent. But to say OKC drafted "perfectly" is not realistic.

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    • #1027495
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      OKC just got lucky, really lucky; and this comes from an OKC fan. Almost every draft pick turned out much better than expected, aside from those few Centers they kept trying to draft (Swift, Sene, Petro, etc.)

      Durant – They lucked out here, Oden was the #1 pick and everyone thought he was going to be a franchise player and then injuries happened. What if Oden got injured in college and Durant went #1 instead?

      Westbrook – He was good, but no one knew he would be this good. He wasn’t even the best PG in his draft at the time, Rose was. While yes Rose did look better at one point, injuries happened and now he’s barely starting material. The other two guys picked above Westbrook? Michael Beasley & O.J. Mayo, both expected to be All-Star caliber players, well they’re scrubs.

      Ibaka – At the time of his drafting he was relatively unknown, and the few highlights of him just showed him dunking a lot. It looked like his effective scoring range was about 5 foot. My God did he develop a jump shot though, and who would have thought he’d be the leagues premiere shot-blocker? He was picked 24th, and is arguably better than almost everyone picked before him. To give a few examples of bigs picked before him: Michael Beasley, Kevin love, Joe Alexander, Brook Lopez, Jason Thompson, Anthony Randolph, Robin Lopez, Marresse Speights, Roy Hibbert, Javale McGee, J.J. Hickson, Alexis Ajinca, Ryan Anderson, Kosta Koufos. The only guys on that list that could even be considered comparable to him would be Brook Lopez & Kevin Love, and many would choose Ibaka over those guys.

      Harden – While no longer with the team, he did help the team for a few years and was still a pick of luck. He fell into OKC hands after Memphis took Hasheem Thabeet at #2. What if Grizzlies took Harden instead? They’d not only be an even better team than they are now (which is scary because they’ve been very good the last few years) but OKC would have chosen Thabeet, because they still drastically needed a Center at the time. Thabeet is the lord of all scrubs and possibly the worst #2 pick of all time. Ironically Thabeet still ended up on OKC for a couple of years but he was a bench-warmer and eventually let go. Sure people give OKC crap for the Harden trade, but think about if they had to pick Thabeet instead at #3, that would have been even more tragic.

      Sam Presti is known for his drafting skills, and I’ll say he does have a good eye for talent. But to say OKC drafted "perfectly" is not realistic.

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  • #1027314
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    ph90702

    In the NBA, the worst thing that you can be is average.  You can’t win a championship, and you can’t get the player(s) needed to be a championship level team.  The 76ers have no plan other than to keep sucking and getting players.  You have to invest in the players you pick and let them grow as a team.  They need to take a page from Oklahoma City.  They did this perfectly.

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  • #1027184
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     We all know the 76ers are a terrible team, but there are so many inconsistentacies in the Original post 

    1. This is not the 3rd or 4th year of The Sam Hinkie rebuild, this is technically The 3rd year

    1st year he drafts MCW (Roy) and Trades Jrue Holiday for a future DPoY in Nerlens Noel and a pick that ends up being Dario Saric

    2nd year he wanted to draft Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker with his top 3 pick, gets stuck with the BPA, an injured 5 Star Prospect in Joel Embiid (he also had scouts in Europe looking at Kristaps Porzingas, and would have taken him had he come out that year(Payton ended the player taken and traded for Dario and our draft pick lost in the Bynum fiasco)

    3rd year he wanted Russell or Porzingas because he lost out on another #1 Overall Pick, Okafor falls into their laps and they had to take him 3rd overall, no one really had Kristaps being this good but I still feel like he landed the right player, every Guard worth taking in the 2nd round was taken so he drafts a glut of Draft and Stash players, 1 of them lands them a former Top 10 pick and the rights to swap picks with Sacramento

    This Draft will be the 4th Draft Class he’s responsible for,he hasn’t made a terrible pick yet if you ask me, he wanted all the right players in their respective classes, this year he’s targeting Ben Simmons which means he will NOT get him, but he’ll likely land Jamal Murray or Jaylen Brown with his pick, and if the Lakers pick falls outside the Top 3 he’ll likely draft another Stud

    We can’t get screwed again and will at least have Miami and OkC 1st round picks to add depth to our Guard spots…We just need a few respectable Guards to compliment Okafor/Noel/Saric/Embiid and potentially Simmons, Brown or Murray…

    I’m sick of MY TEAM losing games as much ad anyone, but STFU and tell me what you would do differently, he’s not allowed to draft who ever he wants, he has to play the hand he’s dealt

    If you’re not in tune to what happens behind the scenes than please keep your opinion to yourself 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1027331
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       I’m a huge Hinkie fan, and support what he is doing completely, but there is zero evidence that he wanted Wiggins or Parker over Embiid, or that he wants Simmons this year. 

      Hinkie doesn’t tell people what he thinks, and that is one of the reasons for the animosity.

       

       

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    • #1027196
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      Ebown5
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       I’m a huge Hinkie fan, and support what he is doing completely, but there is zero evidence that he wanted Wiggins or Parker over Embiid, or that he wants Simmons this year. 

      Hinkie doesn’t tell people what he thinks, and that is one of the reasons for the animosity.

       

       

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      • #1027375
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        Trilla
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         Brett Brown said in an interview last season that he expected to start last season with Wiggins and Stauskas

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      • #1027240
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        Trilla
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         Brett Brown said in an interview last season that he expected to start last season with Wiggins and Stauskas

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        • #1027381
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          Ebown5
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          That isn’t the same thing as wanting them. He was just saying that that is what he expected.

          The Sixers saw themselves as lucky that Embiid slipped to them. 

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        • #1027246
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          That isn’t the same thing as wanting them. He was just saying that that is what he expected.

          The Sixers saw themselves as lucky that Embiid slipped to them. 

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    • #1027352
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       Tanking is all about luck. The Jrue holiday trade was good. He just doesn’t seem to be hitting on much. My team the twolves have gotten solid production from mid to late first rounders who had better players taken close after them. They at least still got NBA level players in Shabazz, dieng, and lavine. The sixers haven’t really done much. If they miss out on murray, what do they really have, they will still be a few years away from doing anything. You can’t bottom out for 5 years, by then they will have to pay the guys. At certain point they just become the post KG twolves and are down for 8 to 10 years. I don’t think hinkie will be able to see this through or if he is even the right guy for the job. They aren’t good enough to even have a chance at the greg monroe type free agents, that could help speed up the rebuild or at least buy hinkie a year or two for the players to develop. 

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    • #1027487
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       Tanking is all about luck. The Jrue holiday trade was good. He just doesn’t seem to be hitting on much. My team the twolves have gotten solid production from mid to late first rounders who had better players taken close after them. They at least still got NBA level players in Shabazz, dieng, and lavine. The sixers haven’t really done much. If they miss out on murray, what do they really have, they will still be a few years away from doing anything. You can’t bottom out for 5 years, by then they will have to pay the guys. At certain point they just become the post KG twolves and are down for 8 to 10 years. I don’t think hinkie will be able to see this through or if he is even the right guy for the job. They aren’t good enough to even have a chance at the greg monroe type free agents, that could help speed up the rebuild or at least buy hinkie a year or two for the players to develop. 

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    • #1027586
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      When they were on the clock I thought they might go Vonleh or Exum. I expected Embiid to drop to 6 or 7. Personally, I wanted Exum, but was excited about Joel’s potential. After all the losses and after picking another injured player I wouldn’t see for…well now ever….the Saric pick was fucking obnoxious. The 2014 draft was regarded as strong and we got nothing! Or at least no instant gratification that we deserved!

      This year I wanted Russell…badly….and felt exasperated when we took Jah. Another big? Once again I felt like we didn’t help ourselves. We didn’t add a complimentary piece, we added a redundant piece. Noel and Okafor can’t play together, both of their games drop off dramatically when they do. 

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    • #1027452
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      When they were on the clock I thought they might go Vonleh or Exum. I expected Embiid to drop to 6 or 7. Personally, I wanted Exum, but was excited about Joel’s potential. After all the losses and after picking another injured player I wouldn’t see for…well now ever….the Saric pick was fucking obnoxious. The 2014 draft was regarded as strong and we got nothing! Or at least no instant gratification that we deserved!

      This year I wanted Russell…badly….and felt exasperated when we took Jah. Another big? Once again I felt like we didn’t help ourselves. We didn’t add a complimentary piece, we added a redundant piece. Noel and Okafor can’t play together, both of their games drop off dramatically when they do. 

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  • #1027319
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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     We all know the 76ers are a terrible team, but there are so many inconsistentacies in the Original post 

    1. This is not the 3rd or 4th year of The Sam Hinkie rebuild, this is technically The 3rd year

    1st year he drafts MCW (Roy) and Trades Jrue Holiday for a future DPoY in Nerlens Noel and a pick that ends up being Dario Saric

    2nd year he wanted to draft Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker with his top 3 pick, gets stuck with the BPA, an injured 5 Star Prospect in Joel Embiid (he also had scouts in Europe looking at Kristaps Porzingas, and would have taken him had he come out that year(Payton ended the player taken and traded for Dario and our draft pick lost in the Bynum fiasco)

    3rd year he wanted Russell or Porzingas because he lost out on another #1 Overall Pick, Okafor falls into their laps and they had to take him 3rd overall, no one really had Kristaps being this good but I still feel like he landed the right player, every Guard worth taking in the 2nd round was taken so he drafts a glut of Draft and Stash players, 1 of them lands them a former Top 10 pick and the rights to swap picks with Sacramento

    This Draft will be the 4th Draft Class he’s responsible for,he hasn’t made a terrible pick yet if you ask me, he wanted all the right players in their respective classes, this year he’s targeting Ben Simmons which means he will NOT get him, but he’ll likely land Jamal Murray or Jaylen Brown with his pick, and if the Lakers pick falls outside the Top 3 he’ll likely draft another Stud

    We can’t get screwed again and will at least have Miami and OkC 1st round picks to add depth to our Guard spots…We just need a few respectable Guards to compliment Okafor/Noel/Saric/Embiid and potentially Simmons, Brown or Murray…

    I’m sick of MY TEAM losing games as much ad anyone, but STFU and tell me what you would do differently, he’s not allowed to draft who ever he wants, he has to play the hand he’s dealt

    If you’re not in tune to what happens behind the scenes than please keep your opinion to yourself 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1027188
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    herceg_buku
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     When i watch Philly play, aside from Okafor not one of the players on that team actually has a position LOL they are so lost… as am i as to why they dont make something happen already

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  • #1027323
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    herceg_buku
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     When i watch Philly play, aside from Okafor not one of the players on that team actually has a position LOL they are so lost… as am i as to why they dont make something happen already

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    holefillers1
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     Get it out of your system yet?  Here, have a snickers.

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    holefillers1
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     Get it out of your system yet?  Here, have a snickers.

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  • #1027333
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    kazam
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     When I clicked on the link I assumed this was going to have something to do with Okafor dropping some guy outside the club in Boston last night. 

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  • #1027198
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    kazam
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     When I clicked on the link I assumed this was going to have something to do with Okafor dropping some guy outside the club in Boston last night. 

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  • #1027341
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    DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64

     76’ers fans r THE Worst!!!!! Y’all Cry more than Arsenio Hall did in Harlem Nights!!!!! 

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    DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64

     76’ers fans r THE Worst!!!!! Y’all Cry more than Arsenio Hall did in Harlem Nights!!!!! 

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  • #1027399
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     Up nine with nine minutes to go…up seven with three to go…..then no point guard and five straight turnovers…deliberate tank?…..as a celtics fan…it is appreciated but is ridiculous

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  • #1027264
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     Up nine with nine minutes to go…up seven with three to go…..then no point guard and five straight turnovers…deliberate tank?…..as a celtics fan…it is appreciated but is ridiculous

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  • #1027420
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    The biggest problem with Hinkie is the trading of talented role players for nothing. He gave away KJ Mcdaniels because he wasn’t a star but was good enough to help them win games. I’m not high on MCW, so I liked that they moved him, but would have tried to get another piece because the Suns protected 2015 first rounder. They basically traded MCW so that they would win less and to get another roll of the dice in another draft. Weak in my opinion. 

    Hinkie has been trying to be the worst team in the league for 3 seasons now, this year he is happy to see his team not win a single game. (Still giving them 25% odds at the first ping pong ball). That’s a problem and Silver needs to step in with some reforms at the end of this season. A conservative rule change would be fine… for example, a hefty tax for teams finishing in the bottom-three for 3 straight seasons. Anything to make the tanking-strategy unappealing to those who are allowing this to happen: ownership. 

    Of course, luck has everything to do with building a franchise. Like Cynthia said, OKC got lucky with their picks. Philly got stuck with Embiid- a pick that you can’t fault them for. If Embiid plays this season we are all praising Hinkie and his crazy team of big men. 

     

     

     

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    • #1028145
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      Matos
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       Why does everyone think that Hinkie gave up KJ as if KJ and his mom weren’t making it completely clear that they did not want to be in Philly. Hinkie had no option here.

       

       

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    • #1028010
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      Matos
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       Why does everyone think that Hinkie gave up KJ as if KJ and his mom weren’t making it completely clear that they did not want to be in Philly. Hinkie had no option here.

       

       

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  • #1027554
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    DolanCare
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    The biggest problem with Hinkie is the trading of talented role players for nothing. He gave away KJ Mcdaniels because he wasn’t a star but was good enough to help them win games. I’m not high on MCW, so I liked that they moved him, but would have tried to get another piece because the Suns protected 2015 first rounder. They basically traded MCW so that they would win less and to get another roll of the dice in another draft. Weak in my opinion. 

    Hinkie has been trying to be the worst team in the league for 3 seasons now, this year he is happy to see his team not win a single game. (Still giving them 25% odds at the first ping pong ball). That’s a problem and Silver needs to step in with some reforms at the end of this season. A conservative rule change would be fine… for example, a hefty tax for teams finishing in the bottom-three for 3 straight seasons. Anything to make the tanking-strategy unappealing to those who are allowing this to happen: ownership. 

    Of course, luck has everything to do with building a franchise. Like Cynthia said, OKC got lucky with their picks. Philly got stuck with Embiid- a pick that you can’t fault them for. If Embiid plays this season we are all praising Hinkie and his crazy team of big men. 

     

     

     

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  • #1027633
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     They traded for Andrew Bynum, so they were a franchise with few options.

    Win 10 games, win 25 games, they couldn’t really do anything with what they had to win a lot.

    At least they make the NBA interesting, people can talk about their rebuild and talk about what week, or year, they will win a game again.  They are getting close, recently they had several games where a shot or stop in the last minute was all they needed for a win.

     

     

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  • #1027500
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     They traded for Andrew Bynum, so they were a franchise with few options.

    Win 10 games, win 25 games, they couldn’t really do anything with what they had to win a lot.

    At least they make the NBA interesting, people can talk about their rebuild and talk about what week, or year, they will win a game again.  They are getting close, recently they had several games where a shot or stop in the last minute was all they needed for a win.

     

     

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    • #1028147
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       Andrew Bynum is probably the most disrespectful player of all time. I still remember his ‘welcome to the sixers’ press conference where he sat next to J-Rich and told the fans that he planned on resigning with the team after his contract would be up the following season. Crowd went wild and dude ended up spending more time on the Salsa dance floor than the court. Thanks Andrew…#NeverForget

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    • #1028013
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      Matos
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       Andrew Bynum is probably the most disrespectful player of all time. I still remember his ‘welcome to the sixers’ press conference where he sat next to J-Rich and told the fans that he planned on resigning with the team after his contract would be up the following season. Crowd went wild and dude ended up spending more time on the Salsa dance floor than the court. Thanks Andrew…#NeverForget

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  • #1028165
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     Hinkie has had to send a long term extricating the 76ers fron the Igg/D-12/Bynum trade. He managed to get picks back from both Miami and Orlando with a couple of canny deals.

    Intersting point about about Philly looking at Porz in 2014 and 2015, I wonder how close they came to taking Porz this year instead of the Oak. Pporz may have higher upside but was a bit of a risky pick over the Oak so they played it safe.

    Don’t forget Saric isn’t over yet, Embiid may finally play, thewy will likely get a top 5 pick themselves this year and if the Lakers pick comes over then they arte sitting pretty.

     

     

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  • #1028030
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     Hinkie has had to send a long term extricating the 76ers fron the Igg/D-12/Bynum trade. He managed to get picks back from both Miami and Orlando with a couple of canny deals.

    Intersting point about about Philly looking at Porz in 2014 and 2015, I wonder how close they came to taking Porz this year instead of the Oak. Pporz may have higher upside but was a bit of a risky pick over the Oak so they played it safe.

    Don’t forget Saric isn’t over yet, Embiid may finally play, thewy will likely get a top 5 pick themselves this year and if the Lakers pick comes over then they arte sitting pretty.

     

     

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  • #1028171
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    Why do ppl bring up OKC ?

    The thunder in 4 lotto picks, picked up 3 top 10 players in the league. This is virtually impossible to do and in fact we may never see this done ever again. Hinkie the clown doesn’t have the smarts to do this, he has already had 5 lotto picks….

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  • #1028036
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    Why do ppl bring up OKC ?

    The thunder in 4 lotto picks, picked up 3 top 10 players in the league. This is virtually impossible to do and in fact we may never see this done ever again. Hinkie the clown doesn’t have the smarts to do this, he has already had 5 lotto picks….

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