[AwardedBallerParticipant]

Idk if I’m giving LeBron too much credit or something but has anyone ever heard the saying "The series doesn’t start until the road team wins" ? People talking about LeBron has lost in the finals 5 times like the series is over. On this forum lots of posters were talking like the Dubs-Thunder series was over as I continued to say it wasn’t at 3-1. The games are played for a reason can we all just chill until one team wins 4 games? Anything can happen it’s the playoffs remember.

[losnopesosParticipant]

I don’t know about you but I’d rather be in the lifeboats watching the ship sink.  

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 The ship sink? A team just lost two home games to, as of now, the best team in the history of the league. It seems to me this is more of a lets talk about LeBron thing then let’s anticipate the series and see what’s going to happen next.

[losnopesosParticipant]

The LBJ title ship has sank, yes. He can’t play anything but iso ball, he can’t shoot and he’s 31.  

[losnopesosParticipant]

The LBJ title ship has sank, yes. He can’t play anything but iso ball, he can’t shoot and he’s 31.  

[OhCanada-Participant]

 This is different. Two things I can tell is the Cavs are doing thier best and GSW learned thier lesson and won’t give the Cavs a single thing after going down in that series with OKC 3-1. GSW is playing with such patience just picking apart the Cavs and making it look so easy. Thompson and Curry haven’t needed to force the issue but can at anytime. Hopefully the homecrowd helps the Cavs and they catch the Warriors sleeping for game 3 too draw some inspiration for a comeback but the Warriors are gonna pull every single trick out of the bag tommorow night. I wouldn’t bet against the Warriors.

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 This is different. Two things I can tell is the Cavs are doing thier best and GSW learned thier lesson and won’t give the Cavs a single thing after going down in that series with OKC 3-1. GSW is playing with such patience just picking apart the Cavs and making it look so easy. Thompson and Curry haven’t needed to force the issue but can at anytime. Hopefully the homecrowd helps the Cavs and they catch the Warriors sleeping for game 3 too draw some inspiration for a comeback but the Warriors are gonna pull every single trick out of the bag tommorow night. I wouldn’t bet against the Warriors.

 

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 The ship sink? A team just lost two home games to, as of now, the best team in the history of the league. It seems to me this is more of a lets talk about LeBron thing then let’s anticipate the series and see what’s going to happen next.

[losnopesosParticipant]

I don’t know about you but I’d rather be in the lifeboats watching the ship sink.  

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 This thing is over. Dubs are too good. It’s not that it’s just 2-0. Did you watch the game? Cavs can’t keep up. 

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 Did you watch games 3 and 4 of the OKC series? Teams turn it around all the time

[SubZeroParticipant]

Apples and oranges. Even though OKC was giving it to Golden State, the Thunder were known for choking and did it all year. Plus, Golden State just had the best regular season ever, so it’s not like they were the underdog in the series. Cleveland isn’t Golden State and Golden State isn’t OKC.

I guess you can’t say it’s completely over because these are still professional basketball players we’re talking about here, but I don’t see anyway Cleveland wins more than one game

[SubZeroParticipant]

Apples and oranges. Even though OKC was giving it to Golden State, the Thunder were known for choking and did it all year. Plus, Golden State just had the best regular season ever, so it’s not like they were the underdog in the series. Cleveland isn’t Golden State and Golden State isn’t OKC.

I guess you can’t say it’s completely over because these are still professional basketball players we’re talking about here, but I don’t see anyway Cleveland wins more than one game

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 Did you watch games 3 and 4 of the OKC series? Teams turn it around all the time

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

So if the NBA were to just end the series right now and say "It’s clear the warriors are winning this series" it would be fine with you? Y’all can have your opinions and predictions of the series I’m not denying that at all but to just dismiss the series as over especially after we just seen one of the most improbable comebacks in recent time is really crazy to me.

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

So if the NBA were to just end the series right now and say "It’s clear the warriors are winning this series" it would be fine with you? Y’all can have your opinions and predictions of the series I’m not denying that at all but to just dismiss the series as over especially after we just seen one of the most improbable comebacks in recent time is really crazy to me.

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 This thing is over. Dubs are too good. It’s not that it’s just 2-0. Did you watch the game? Cavs can’t keep up. 

[nath09Participant]

What a difference a week makes. A week ago there were a lot of people talking about the Cavs v Thunder finals series and the Warriors were off on holiday. That right there shows it’s not over until it’s over; however the Cavs have lost by roughly a combined 45 points and that is with Curry only scoring 29 total in the series. It would take a peak performance from every Cavs starter to turn that around and after watching yesterday’s game I’m not sure the Cavs can do that 4 times.

[nath09Participant]

What a difference a week makes. A week ago there were a lot of people talking about the Cavs v Thunder finals series and the Warriors were off on holiday. That right there shows it’s not over until it’s over; however the Cavs have lost by roughly a combined 45 points and that is with Curry only scoring 29 total in the series. It would take a peak performance from every Cavs starter to turn that around and after watching yesterday’s game I’m not sure the Cavs can do that 4 times.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 what is the OP hoping to accomplish in this thread?

To call out all the people that think the Warriors are going to win? 

It just seems super pointless and the only thing that will come out of it, is if the Cavs win, dude will toot his horn to the high heavens and if they don’t, nobody will remember. 

It would take a Cavs homer of all Cavs homers to realistically think Cleveland still has a shot in this series. They just got obliterated and GS hasn’t really played that well. Sure a comeback is possible, but it’s silly to call out people who evaluate it as over because the Cavs have shown no fight yet. 

 

 

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 To get people to respond with their opinion on the series and this thread, kinda like you just did sir.

 

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 To get people to respond with their opinion on the series and this thread, kinda like you just did sir.

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 what is the OP hoping to accomplish in this thread?

To call out all the people that think the Warriors are going to win? 

It just seems super pointless and the only thing that will come out of it, is if the Cavs win, dude will toot his horn to the high heavens and if they don’t, nobody will remember. 

It would take a Cavs homer of all Cavs homers to realistically think Cleveland still has a shot in this series. They just got obliterated and GS hasn’t really played that well. Sure a comeback is possible, but it’s silly to call out people who evaluate it as over because the Cavs have shown no fight yet. 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Cavs have some problems with thier roster.

 Thompson is not a rim protecter and he’s getting paid top dollar to man the paint. Even as a defensive rebounder he struggles at times. They paid him for solid on ball defense and extra possessions through offensive rebounds. Bad signing.

Frye and Love spread the floor but don’t offer a lick of defence. When they are not hitting shots they are pylons on the court. Love sucks in this role badly and he looks disinterested at times.

The Cavaliers are a bad organization which is first and foremost the issue. They are trying but they have always made bad decisions from the management down to roster decisions. Every great team had a great player with a great coach and great teammates. The Cavs have always just had Lebron. Irving and Love have not pushed their games to be great. This is likely an issue because he likely confronts them and tries his best to influence change but it seems as if they aren’t responding. Irving plays one on one basketball and takes quick shots although his defence has been acceptable in the playoffs I will give him that. I see Love miss wide open shots then jog back on defence everytime I watch the Cavs. He played with way more passion for the Wolves.

They are both players that were handed the keys too thier teams without playing good all around basketball and now as role players their games are being exposed.

Lebron should leave Cleveland they are a bad team. Is his career supposed to be the Ohio charity event? Screw the hometown discount I would go somewhere more prosperous.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Cavs have some problems with thier roster.

 Thompson is not a rim protecter and he’s getting paid top dollar to man the paint. Even as a defensive rebounder he struggles at times. They paid him for solid on ball defense and extra possessions through offensive rebounds. Bad signing.

Frye and Love spread the floor but don’t offer a lick of defence. When they are not hitting shots they are pylons on the court. Love sucks in this role badly and he looks disinterested at times.

The Cavaliers are a bad organization which is first and foremost the issue. They are trying but they have always made bad decisions from the management down to roster decisions. Every great team had a great player with a great coach and great teammates. The Cavs have always just had Lebron. Irving and Love have not pushed their games to be great. This is likely an issue because he likely confronts them and tries his best to influence change but it seems as if they aren’t responding. Irving plays one on one basketball and takes quick shots although his defence has been acceptable in the playoffs I will give him that. I see Love miss wide open shots then jog back on defence everytime I watch the Cavs. He played with way more passion for the Wolves.

They are both players that were handed the keys too thier teams without playing good all around basketball and now as role players their games are being exposed.

Lebron should leave Cleveland they are a bad team. Is his career supposed to be the Ohio charity event? Screw the hometown discount I would go somewhere more prosperous.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 @Awardedballer – well played. People have responded. I guess it just seemed like you wre ripping people for thinking the series is over when it really doesn’t seem like there’s a reasonable alternative weay to look at it. 

@OhCanada – Cleveland is in the NBA finals. They skated backwards through the EC. All we’ve heard all year is that GS might be the best team ever. They are proving it here. The three best teams in the league play in the West. Cleveland has the 4th or 5th best team in the league. That doesn’t mean they have problems with their roster. 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 @Awardedballer – well played. People have responded. I guess it just seemed like you wre ripping people for thinking the series is over when it really doesn’t seem like there’s a reasonable alternative weay to look at it. 

@OhCanada – Cleveland is in the NBA finals. They skated backwards through the EC. All we’ve heard all year is that GS might be the best team ever. They are proving it here. The three best teams in the league play in the West. Cleveland has the 4th or 5th best team in the league. That doesn’t mean they have problems with their roster. 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 The expectations are just at a different level for Cleveland. They are the elite team. They have the best player of this generation. The expectation is they win or its s failure. I don’t think we will ever…EVER see an Irving, Lebron, Love team win a championship. They aren’t playing to beat the Toronto Raptors in the ECF.

So there are problems and the biggest problem is they will not win a championship unless changes are made.

 

[benny15Participant]

 change could be made in their approach or strategy. look at the warriors, the biggest change they went from a play-off team to a new contender who won it last year was going from marc jackson’s hero ball style to steve kerr’s team ball style. steph curry actually had more time with the ball in his hands and was a kobe level chucker under jackson. what did kerr do, he dint make splashes with trades, but changed how they played, and i believe the cavs have the players for them to make that kind of adjustment.,

 

i mentioned it before, i would love for lebron to get the draymond green role for the cavs where he’s a primary play-maker and not nessarily scorer for his team. i think kyrie and kevin can shoulder most of the load in that area. love in particular i would like to get as much touches and shots up as klay thompson, and like what most people say, dont let it be mostly from the outside. get him consistent looks inside or in the elbow, let him go back to taking 2-3 shots from outside but let most of his points come from 15 feet inward. play him as an undersized center if you have to, but play to his strengths. take advantage of his more acurate short jumper and play-making ability 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

 change could be made in their approach or strategy. look at the warriors, the biggest change they went from a play-off team to a new contender who won it last year was going from marc jackson’s hero ball style to steve kerr’s team ball style. steph curry actually had more time with the ball in his hands and was a kobe level chucker under jackson. what did kerr do, he dint make splashes with trades, but changed how they played, and i believe the cavs have the players for them to make that kind of adjustment.,

 

i mentioned it before, i would love for lebron to get the draymond green role for the cavs where he’s a primary play-maker and not nessarily scorer for his team. i think kyrie and kevin can shoulder most of the load in that area. love in particular i would like to get as much touches and shots up as klay thompson, and like what most people say, dont let it be mostly from the outside. get him consistent looks inside or in the elbow, let him go back to taking 2-3 shots from outside but let most of his points come from 15 feet inward. play him as an undersized center if you have to, but play to his strengths. take advantage of his more acurate short jumper and play-making ability 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

 change could be made in their approach or strategy. look at the warriors, the biggest change they went from a play-off team to a new contender who won it last year was going from marc jackson’s hero ball style to steve kerr’s team ball style. steph curry actually had more time with the ball in his hands and was a kobe level chucker under jackson. what did kerr do, he dint make splashes with trades, but changed how they played, and i believe the cavs have the players for them to make that kind of adjustment.,

 

i mentioned it before, i would love for lebron to get the draymond green role for the cavs where he’s a primary play-maker and not nessarily scorer for his team. i think kyrie and kevin can shoulder most of the load in that area. love in particular i would like to get as much touches and shots up as klay thompson, and like what most people say, dont let it be mostly from the outside. get him consistent looks inside or in the elbow, let him go back to taking 2-3 shots from outside but let most of his points come from 15 feet inward. play him as an undersized center if you have to, but play to his strengths. take advantage of his more acurate short jumper and play-making ability 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

 change could be made in their approach or strategy. look at the warriors, the biggest change they went from a play-off team to a new contender who won it last year was going from marc jackson’s hero ball style to steve kerr’s team ball style. steph curry actually had more time with the ball in his hands and was a kobe level chucker under jackson. what did kerr do, he dint make splashes with trades, but changed how they played, and i believe the cavs have the players for them to make that kind of adjustment.,

 

i mentioned it before, i would love for lebron to get the draymond green role for the cavs where he’s a primary play-maker and not nessarily scorer for his team. i think kyrie and kevin can shoulder most of the load in that area. love in particular i would like to get as much touches and shots up as klay thompson, and like what most people say, dont let it be mostly from the outside. get him consistent looks inside or in the elbow, let him go back to taking 2-3 shots from outside but let most of his points come from 15 feet inward. play him as an undersized center if you have to, but play to his strengths. take advantage of his more acurate short jumper and play-making ability 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 The expectations are just at a different level for Cleveland. They are the elite team. They have the best player of this generation. The expectation is they win or its s failure. I don’t think we will ever…EVER see an Irving, Lebron, Love team win a championship. They aren’t playing to beat the Toronto Raptors in the ECF.

So there are problems and the biggest problem is they will not win a championship unless changes are made.

 

[Make’Em Say UGHParticipant]

The Cavs can use the 3-1 OKC lead as motivation, but its the way they’ve been out performed that garners the lack of belief. They’ve only had an end-of-quarter lead only once out of eight quarters so far. And that was the opening quarter of last game. In other words they’re entering pretty much every quarter trailing. It doesn’t look competitive out there.

Hopefully for us fans, the Cavs will figure something out. I personally don’t care if they win or lose I just want to see some good basketball from both teams. I wish LBJ would do his best Westbrook impression and become a little more selfish.

[Make’Em Say UGHParticipant]

The Cavs can use the 3-1 OKC lead as motivation, but its the way they’ve been out performed that garners the lack of belief. They’ve only had an end-of-quarter lead only once out of eight quarters so far. And that was the opening quarter of last game. In other words they’re entering pretty much every quarter trailing. It doesn’t look competitive out there.

Hopefully for us fans, the Cavs will figure something out. I personally don’t care if they win or lose I just want to see some good basketball from both teams. I wish LBJ would do his best Westbrook impression and become a little more selfish.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Is the series over? Of course not. All I know is that Cleveland better figure some things out and fast or they are done. They have put themselves in a position where they have to win the next 2 games at home. If gs takes one in Cleveland they might as well just hand them the trophy.

Lebron and kyrie need to make quicker decisions and stop holding the ball. That will not work against this defense. Frye, love, Smith and dellavadova need to start shooting the ball like they did earlier in the playoffs. Tristan Thompson needs to start dominating the glass again. But more than anything the effort level just needs to be better. Gs just looks like the hungrier team right now when it should be the other way around. I don’t think gs has even played their best yet in this series.

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Is the series over? Of course not. All I know is that Cleveland better figure some things out and fast or they are done. They have put themselves in a position where they have to win the next 2 games at home. If gs takes one in Cleveland they might as well just hand them the trophy.

Lebron and kyrie need to make quicker decisions and stop holding the ball. That will not work against this defense. Frye, love, Smith and dellavadova need to start shooting the ball like they did earlier in the playoffs. Tristan Thompson needs to start dominating the glass again. But more than anything the effort level just needs to be better. Gs just looks like the hungrier team right now when it should be the other way around. I don’t think gs has even played their best yet in this series.

 

[kobyzParticipant]

 Still killing me how okc let it slipp, missing on an historical achievement and now the road is open for GS to win 5 straight titles…

[kobyzParticipant]

 Still killing me how okc let it slipp, missing on an historical achievement and now the road is open for GS to win 5 straight titles…

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 Ima toot my own horn now. Lol

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 Ima toot my own horn now. Lol

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 Please continue to neg me instead of talking basketball with me, I LOVE IT!

[AwardedBallerParticipant]

 Please continue to neg me instead of talking basketball with me, I LOVE IT!

[circumlocution75Participant]

 I remember when you wrote it after game 4 & I thought "He is right, BUT…….."

Looks like I was wrong Again – Big Surprise

Great Call & thx for reminding us that getting that 4th win in a 7 game series is the single Hardest game to win………..

 

 

[circumlocution75Participant]

 I remember when you wrote it after game 4 & I thought "He is right, BUT…….."

Looks like I was wrong Again – Big Surprise

Great Call & thx for reminding us that getting that 4th win in a 7 game series is the single Hardest game to win………..

 

 

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