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  • #54383
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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     1. Select Jabarri Parker in the top 3, even if you have to trade a future 1st to swap players Sam Hinkie, take the 20ppg go to scorer!!!

    2. Shop the Pelican’s pick for a young SG like Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Ross or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, if a deal can’t be found to get one of those guys, take the best SG available at that point, that leaves Gary Harris and Zach Lavine to choose from, right now I like Harris more but in a few years Lavine could be the better player, flip a coin and there goes our SG

    3. Too many damn second round picks this year IMO, and although everyone loves the idea of making 5 additional picks after already taking Parker and Harris/Lavine BUT I’m willing to part ways with those picks to move up and take another shot in the Top 20. With this hypothetical pick I’d choose from Montrezz Harrell, Aaron Gordon and Adrien Payne. Harrell looks like a nasty Pf that will rebound and finish inside, Gordon needs to gain a lot of weight and add a little bit of range and Payne feels like the safest pick in the 15-25 range, again Harrell looks the part, Payne plays the part and Gordon could absolutely shock us all and become the steal of the entire draft. Flip a coin there’s your PF.

    4. Free Agency-I believe in spending money wisely in the summer, many times bad contracts kill you faster than bad draft picks, this year we have a ton of Cap Space and can afford to take a chance on the best PF/C available Greg Monroe, he’s be the perfect fit next to Thad Young and Nerlens Noel, Detroit can’t afford to match a big offer for GM and they are no longer a good fit with Smith and Jennings on Board

    5. Sign Patty Mills with the MLE to play backup Pg, the Aussie can flat out ball on a second unit and pushes MCW to play more efficient by default, Tony Wroten should be the backup SG providing a spark off the bench.
    2015 opening day lineup
    PG-MCW and Patty Mills
    SG-Harris/Lavine and Wroten
    SF-Thad Young and Jabarri Parker
    PF-Greg Monroe and Harrell/Payne/Gordon
    C-Nerlens Noel and Arnett Moultrie

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  • #880693
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    Chilbert arenas
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    You’re delusional to think those teams are willing to part with their young SGs but I’ll give you the Harris/Levine theory.

    All those 2nd round picks won’t move you up to the 20s for Gordon or Harrell.

    Honestly even if all these things did happen you’re still in the lottery next year, depending on too many young unproven players. It’d take a couple years for this group to sniff the playoffs.

    Noel being one of the biggest question marks, not only in health but I was never high on him in the first place, the guy lacks offensive touch, strength, and footwork.

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  • #880582
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    Chilbert arenas
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    You’re delusional to think those teams are willing to part with their young SGs but I’ll give you the Harris/Levine theory.

    All those 2nd round picks won’t move you up to the 20s for Gordon or Harrell.

    Honestly even if all these things did happen you’re still in the lottery next year, depending on too many young unproven players. It’d take a couple years for this group to sniff the playoffs.

    Noel being one of the biggest question marks, not only in health but I was never high on him in the first place, the guy lacks offensive touch, strength, and footwork.

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  • #880701
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    NeggedFolyfe

    I say we draft a sf and lets say we don’t get wiggins or parker why not take tj warren with the second pick

    as for those second round picks hinkie should try to turn those into a steal or a first rounder nothing lesser is acceptable.

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  • #880590
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    NeggedFolyfe

    I say we draft a sf and lets say we don’t get wiggins or parker why not take tj warren with the second pick

    as for those second round picks hinkie should try to turn those into a steal or a first rounder nothing lesser is acceptable.

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  • #880705
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     That’s why I had a contingency plan in Harris or Lavine with the Pelican’s pick, although I don’t think those guys are untouchables by any means. Detroit could swap KCP with Harris or Lavine and be fine, Lamb and Ross may play their way into bigger contracts very soon and the Thunder/Raptors could use cheap talent in return, the Raptors would like to find a perfect pair for Demar and Jonas at SF/PF

    I believe a team would take back multiple 2nd rounders in exchange for the 18th pick and the rights to a Montrezz Harrell, not an improbable trade at all, especially when you factor in the lure of non guaranteed contracts 

    And that Team wouldn’t be that bad, sure they’d be a below 500 team year one but they have a great nucleus of talented players and hard workers. MCW is going to be better next year, Thad Young and Greg Monroe would make a great SF and PF combo with Parker playing 6th man, Noel can defend and rebound and brings a ton of energy to a team blocking shots and creating fast breaks, MCW/Wroten and Mills can push the pace and create opportunities for the team, Harris or Lavine only have to worry about defending their man and spotting up for jumpers. Would we really be that bad with a healthy squad and a focus on winning games and moving forward, another lottery pick wouldn’t hurt either, the Thunder needed a few Draft classes to right the ship /p>

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  • #880594
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     That’s why I had a contingency plan in Harris or Lavine with the Pelican’s pick, although I don’t think those guys are untouchables by any means. Detroit could swap KCP with Harris or Lavine and be fine, Lamb and Ross may play their way into bigger contracts very soon and the Thunder/Raptors could use cheap talent in return, the Raptors would like to find a perfect pair for Demar and Jonas at SF/PF

    I believe a team would take back multiple 2nd rounders in exchange for the 18th pick and the rights to a Montrezz Harrell, not an improbable trade at all, especially when you factor in the lure of non guaranteed contracts 

    And that Team wouldn’t be that bad, sure they’d be a below 500 team year one but they have a great nucleus of talented players and hard workers. MCW is going to be better next year, Thad Young and Greg Monroe would make a great SF and PF combo with Parker playing 6th man, Noel can defend and rebound and brings a ton of energy to a team blocking shots and creating fast breaks, MCW/Wroten and Mills can push the pace and create opportunities for the team, Harris or Lavine only have to worry about defending their man and spotting up for jumpers. Would we really be that bad with a healthy squad and a focus on winning games and moving forward, another lottery pick wouldn’t hurt either, the Thunder needed a few Draft classes to right the ship /p>

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  • #880707
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    1. We draft Wiggins and play him at SG thus making a super long backcourt with crazy athletism, both guys would have to hit the gym relentlessly and develop consistent range on their jump shot , but if they do WOW!

    2. Select BPA with the Pelican’s and if we get lucky it’s Doug McDermont, Doug would instantly give us a 3pt specialist at the SF spot, Wiggins and Noel may be asked to cover up a lot of his weaknesses on defense, but Dougie buckets would space the floor for two of the leagues fastest players in MCW and Wiggins

    3. Use all 5 picks to find has many bodies to send to summer league as possible, maybe take a Euro to stash? I can’t fathom who’ll be available then but let’s pray we get lucky and a few of our favorites fall.

    4. Sign Greg Monroe to play PF/C, let not forget he can start at Center while Noel and Young play PF, he is the best player on the market at a position of need and we can afford to over pay to pry him away.

    5. Start MCW, Wiggins, McDermont, Young and Monroe, bring Noel and Wroten off the bench and hope we get some depth in the 2nd round and free agency(Backup PG/SG and PF/C) 

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  • #880596
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    1. We draft Wiggins and play him at SG thus making a super long backcourt with crazy athletism, both guys would have to hit the gym relentlessly and develop consistent range on their jump shot , but if they do WOW!

    2. Select BPA with the Pelican’s and if we get lucky it’s Doug McDermont, Doug would instantly give us a 3pt specialist at the SF spot, Wiggins and Noel may be asked to cover up a lot of his weaknesses on defense, but Dougie buckets would space the floor for two of the leagues fastest players in MCW and Wiggins

    3. Use all 5 picks to find has many bodies to send to summer league as possible, maybe take a Euro to stash? I can’t fathom who’ll be available then but let’s pray we get lucky and a few of our favorites fall.

    4. Sign Greg Monroe to play PF/C, let not forget he can start at Center while Noel and Young play PF, he is the best player on the market at a position of need and we can afford to over pay to pry him away.

    5. Start MCW, Wiggins, McDermont, Young and Monroe, bring Noel and Wroten off the bench and hope we get some depth in the 2nd round and free agency(Backup PG/SG and PF/C) 

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    • #880731
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      MrManalo43
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      i’d love McDermott for the sixers, but i’d rather see him as a 6th Man off the bench (for any team, for that matter). he’s got the humility and offensive firepower for that role.

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    • #880620
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      MrManalo43
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      i’d love McDermott for the sixers, but i’d rather see him as a 6th Man off the bench (for any team, for that matter). he’s got the humility and offensive firepower for that role.

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  • #880715
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    SpartanGlory
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     Dude, why the hell does every Sixers fan here want McDermott? I just cannot see him becoming anything special in the NBA. First pick is for sure Parker/ Wiggins, with the next pick being Harris/Lavine or Vonleh/Randle if they drop. 

    Highly doubtful that Hinkie spends any serious money in free agency (which he shouldn’t). Sixers suck again next year and go for Cliff Alexander/Okafor/Turner. Maybe in 2015 or 2016 Hinkie spends on a good free agent or two.

    There isn’t a quick fix to this team. It’s going to take minimum 3 years before the Sixers become relevant in the east. 

     

     

     

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  • #880604
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    SpartanGlory
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     Dude, why the hell does every Sixers fan here want McDermott? I just cannot see him becoming anything special in the NBA. First pick is for sure Parker/ Wiggins, with the next pick being Harris/Lavine or Vonleh/Randle if they drop. 

    Highly doubtful that Hinkie spends any serious money in free agency (which he shouldn’t). Sixers suck again next year and go for Cliff Alexander/Okafor/Turner. Maybe in 2015 or 2016 Hinkie spends on a good free agent or two.

    There isn’t a quick fix to this team. It’s going to take minimum 3 years before the Sixers become relevant in the east. 

     

     

     

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    • #880926
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      NeggedFolyfe

      yes its a big draft im a sixers fan and I don’t se why everything is a rush even with two maybe 3 first round picks we are going to suck next year. If im  hinkie my job is done with securing draft picks for this draft I would be working on next year drafts trying to get another mid to late lottery pick. Im not big on doug either.

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    • #881037
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      NeggedFolyfe

      yes its a big draft im a sixers fan and I don’t se why everything is a rush even with two maybe 3 first round picks we are going to suck next year. If im  hinkie my job is done with securing draft picks for this draft I would be working on next year drafts trying to get another mid to late lottery pick. Im not big on doug either.

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  • #880719
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     Sure he’s got flaws but what prospects doesn’t? 

    In my original post I laid out a plan to draft Parker, Harris and trading picks for a bigman like. Payne or Harrell. 

    I then suggested a 2nd plan to replace Parker with Wiggins and  put Mcdermont in because I felt like he was a safe pick and people would be okay with it, ehonestly I would still want Harris or TJ Warren with that Pelican’s pick, and I’d still want to trade those 2nd rounders for Payne or Harrell, even Dougie Mc if possible.

    why not spend Some money on a young big while we have the money and young assets to off set the Contract and risk. We could always use a guy like Monroe as a future trade chip if we do or don’t get better.

    i get the feeling people either want Parker or Wiggins. Randle or Vonleh. Smart or Exum. Harris or Lavine. Mcdermont/Warren/Hood or Gordon? A lot of Potential vs Production battles in this draft.

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  • #880608
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     Sure he’s got flaws but what prospects doesn’t? 

    In my original post I laid out a plan to draft Parker, Harris and trading picks for a bigman like. Payne or Harrell. 

    I then suggested a 2nd plan to replace Parker with Wiggins and  put Mcdermont in because I felt like he was a safe pick and people would be okay with it, ehonestly I would still want Harris or TJ Warren with that Pelican’s pick, and I’d still want to trade those 2nd rounders for Payne or Harrell, even Dougie Mc if possible.

    why not spend Some money on a young big while we have the money and young assets to off set the Contract and risk. We could always use a guy like Monroe as a future trade chip if we do or don’t get better.

    i get the feeling people either want Parker or Wiggins. Randle or Vonleh. Smart or Exum. Harris or Lavine. Mcdermont/Warren/Hood or Gordon? A lot of Potential vs Production battles in this draft.

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  • #880652
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    Crossyboy
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    To build a team, the players all need to fit together. Look at the pieces you have and then bring in other players who can work with them.

    Currently, the 76ers have MCW, Wroten, Noel & Young. All hard-working, athletic 2-way players. To build on that, you need other players who fit that mould. Players like Monroe & McDermott simply wouldn’t fit.

    Wiggins & LaVine simply fit the team philosophy better and if we accept that the team will need at least another year, then it is better to draft a few spots higher in 2015 when there are good C/PF prospects and choose the players in 2014 who could be the best long term.

    For the record, I think that plenty of teams would swap their young SG for the 8th pick (or whatever it ends up being). I think Philly are the ones who wouldn’t.

    In terms of free-agency, I can see Avery Bradley or Lance Stephenson being a decent fit.

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  • #880763
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    Crossyboy
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    To build a team, the players all need to fit together. Look at the pieces you have and then bring in other players who can work with them.

    Currently, the 76ers have MCW, Wroten, Noel & Young. All hard-working, athletic 2-way players. To build on that, you need other players who fit that mould. Players like Monroe & McDermott simply wouldn’t fit.

    Wiggins & LaVine simply fit the team philosophy better and if we accept that the team will need at least another year, then it is better to draft a few spots higher in 2015 when there are good C/PF prospects and choose the players in 2014 who could be the best long term.

    For the record, I think that plenty of teams would swap their young SG for the 8th pick (or whatever it ends up being). I think Philly are the ones who wouldn’t.

    In terms of free-agency, I can see Avery Bradley or Lance Stephenson being a decent fit.

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  • #880654
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    Crossyboy
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    To build a team, the players all need to fit together. Look at the pieces you have and then bring in other players who can work with them.

    Currently, the 76ers have MCW, Wroten, Noel & Young. All hard-working, athletic 2-way players. To build on that, you need other players who fit that mould. Players like Monroe & McDermott simply wouldn’t fit.

    Wiggins & LaVine simply fit the team philosophy better and if we accept that the team will need at least another year, then it is better to draft a few spots higher in 2015 when there are good C/PF prospects and choose the players in 2014 who could be the best long term.

    For the record, I think that plenty of teams would swap their young SG for the 8th pick (or whatever it ends up being). I think Philly are the ones who wouldn’t.

    In terms of free-agency, I can see Avery Bradley or Lance Stephenson being a decent fit.

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  • #880765
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    Crossyboy
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    To build a team, the players all need to fit together. Look at the pieces you have and then bring in other players who can work with them.

    Currently, the 76ers have MCW, Wroten, Noel & Young. All hard-working, athletic 2-way players. To build on that, you need other players who fit that mould. Players like Monroe & McDermott simply wouldn’t fit.

    Wiggins & LaVine simply fit the team philosophy better and if we accept that the team will need at least another year, then it is better to draft a few spots higher in 2015 when there are good C/PF prospects and choose the players in 2014 who could be the best long term.

    For the record, I think that plenty of teams would swap their young SG for the 8th pick (or whatever it ends up being). I think Philly are the ones who wouldn’t.

    In terms of free-agency, I can see Avery Bradley or Lance Stephenson being a decent fit.

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  • #880678
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    Jeffreyharden
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     Am I the only one that noticed he has Jabari Parker coming off the bench to Thad Young???

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  • #880789
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    Jeffreyharden
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     Am I the only one that noticed he has Jabari Parker coming off the bench to Thad Young???

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  • #880692
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    2quick4u
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     if i was the sixers i wouln’t trade those 5 second round picks for a mid-late first. this year’s draft is really deep and some players taken in the second round could end up being as good as any player taken in mid-late 1st…

    -in fact,this draft is so deep that some players have been bouncing in mocks from mid 1st to second round and at this point we still don’t know if some of those players will be 1st or secound round(or maybe they stay 1 more year). here a few examples:

    .jordan clarckson  

    .glenn robinson

    .andrew harrison

    .wayne selden

    .shabazz napier

    .semaj christon  

    .elfrid payton

    .nik stauskas

     

    -there’s another group of players that if taken in second round could end up being as good as others taken in 1st:

    .cj fair, pj hairston, aj hammons, jabari brown, markel brown, deonte burton, cj wilcox, nick johnson, jahii carson,jordan adams or kj mcdaniels among others…

    -and finally,this year there’s a really interesting group of international players whom some of them will probably be secound round because they won’t enter the league right away but have starters potential:

    .walter tavares (i can’t say enough about this guy,he’s gonna be a real steal..)

    .jusuf nurkic

    .visilije micic

    .clint capela

    .alessandro gentile

    and bogdan bogdanovic, him will enter the league this year but for some reason he’s still considered secound round in most mocks wich is absurd…if so,he’ll be another steal..

     

    in conclusion, too many good options for the sixers to trade them for just 1 pick taken in mid-late first that won’t be a star..

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #880803
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    2quick4u
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     if i was the sixers i wouln’t trade those 5 second round picks for a mid-late first. this year’s draft is really deep and some players taken in the second round could end up being as good as any player taken in mid-late 1st…

    -in fact,this draft is so deep that some players have been bouncing in mocks from mid 1st to second round and at this point we still don’t know if some of those players will be 1st or secound round(or maybe they stay 1 more year). here a few examples:

    .jordan clarckson  

    .glenn robinson

    .andrew harrison

    .wayne selden

    .shabazz napier

    .semaj christon  

    .elfrid payton

    .nik stauskas

     

    -there’s another group of players that if taken in second round could end up being as good as others taken in 1st:

    .cj fair, pj hairston, aj hammons, jabari brown, markel brown, deonte burton, cj wilcox, nick johnson, jahii carson,jordan adams or kj mcdaniels among others…

    -and finally,this year there’s a really interesting group of international players whom some of them will probably be secound round because they won’t enter the league right away but have starters potential:

    .walter tavares (i can’t say enough about this guy,he’s gonna be a real steal..)

    .jusuf nurkic

    .visilije micic

    .clint capela

    .alessandro gentile

    and bogdan bogdanovic, him will enter the league this year but for some reason he’s still considered secound round in most mocks wich is absurd…if so,he’ll be another steal..

     

    in conclusion, too many good options for the sixers to trade them for just 1 pick taken in mid-late first that won’t be a star..

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #880696
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    jwostrum
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    take wiggins with there first pick. then with their next pick I would take a good foreign player for brett brown seeing is he is a student of popavich, and I would go for Dario saric. then I would try and trade several of those seconds for a late first and I would target chris walker, and let him develop in the d-league for a year or two.

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    • #880905
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      Crossyboy
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      I like the idea of drafting Walker, but I’d be surprised if you’d need a 1st round pick from him. He’s been out all season and hasn’t shown much yet. He’s pure potential at this point and I’m confident that a mid-2nd round would be enough.

      I agree with the post above, too many good options this year. Hold onto the picks and only use them on draft night if a player you really want goes first round and none of the players you’re hoping for drop.

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    • #880794
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      Crossyboy
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      I like the idea of drafting Walker, but I’d be surprised if you’d need a 1st round pick from him. He’s been out all season and hasn’t shown much yet. He’s pure potential at this point and I’m confident that a mid-2nd round would be enough.

      I agree with the post above, too many good options this year. Hold onto the picks and only use them on draft night if a player you really want goes first round and none of the players you’re hoping for drop.

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  • #880807
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    jwostrum
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    take wiggins with there first pick. then with their next pick I would take a good foreign player for brett brown seeing is he is a student of popavich, and I would go for Dario saric. then I would try and trade several of those seconds for a late first and I would target chris walker, and let him develop in the d-league for a year or two.

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  • #880928
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    NeggedFolyfe

    honesty if im the sixers and "IF" I decide to keep all those second round picks Im signing and letting the players I drafted play this season because 1 summer isn’t 1 season I rather have a season to see if I attained  any real gems for the next level.

     

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  • #881039
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    NeggedFolyfe

    honesty if im the sixers and "IF" I decide to keep all those second round picks Im signing and letting the players I drafted play this season because 1 summer isn’t 1 season I rather have a season to see if I attained  any real gems for the next level.

     

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