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- Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2023 - 5:59am #1262029
NorrinRaddParticipantMy bad… a bit late this year on this, a lot has gone on here… but anyways, I thought it would be a good time to put my big board out here… always welcome any comments or even better yet more big boards… Anyways, this is about how I see it thus far this season, hope you enjoy:
Ja’Kobe Walter – G – Baylor
Alexandre Sarr – PF/C – France
Stephon Castle – G – UConn
Nikola Topic – G – Serbia
Bub Carrington – G – Pitt
Ron Holland – F – GLeagueCody Williams – G/SF – Colorado
Robert Dillingham – PG – Kentucky
Donovan Clingan – C – UConn
Kel’el Ware – C – Indiana
Matas Buzelis – F – Gleague
Isaiah Collier – G – USC
Tyrese Proctor – PG – Duke
Zaccharie Risacher – F – FranceJustin Edwards – SG/SF – Kentucky
Aday Mara – C – UCLA
Makenzie Mgbako – PF/C – Indiana
Milan Momcilovic – F – Iowa State
Izan Almansa – PF/C – Spain
Kobe Johnson – G/SF – USC
Reed Sheppard – G – Kentucky
Melvin Ajinca – F – France
Tidjane Salaun – F – FranceBaba Miller – F – Florida State
Oso Ighodaro – F – Marquette
Judah Mintz – G – Syracuse
Elmarko Jackson – G – Kansas
Kwame Evans, Jr. – F – Indiana
Juan Nunez – PG – Spain
Grant Nelson – PF/C – Alabama
Kyle Filipowski – C – Duke
Garwey Dual – G – Providence
Jared McCain – G – Duke
Thierry Darlan – G – GLeague
Scottie Middleton – SG/SF – Ohio State
Riley Kugel – G – Florida
Trey Alexander – G – Creighton
AJ Johnson – G – Australia
Aaron Bradshaw – C – Kentucky
Pacome Dadiet – SG/SF – Germany
Yves Missi – C – Baylor
DJ Wagner – G – Kentucky
Berke Buyuktuncel – PF/C – UCLA
Zvonimir Ivisic – C – Kentucky
Dillon Mitchell – F – Texas
Terrance Arceneaux – SG/SF – HoustonMark Armstrong – PG – Villanova
DaRon Holmes – PF/C – Dayton
Trevon Brazile – C – Arkansas
Baye Fall – PF – Arkansas
Trentyn Flowers – G/F – Australia
Dillon Jones – SG/F – Weber State
Ryan Kalkbrenner – C – Creighton
Ryan Dunn – SG/F – Virginia
PJ Haggerty – G – Tulsa
Tucker DeVries – SG/SF – Drake
JJ Starling – G – Syracuse
Michael Ajayi – G – Pepperdine
Milos Uzan – G – Oklahoma
Kevin McCullar – SG/SF – Kansas
Xavier Booker – PF/C – Michigan State
Coen Carr – SG/F – Michigan State
Reece Beekman – G – Virginia
Jarin Stevenson – F – Alabama
Ariel Hukporti – C – Germany
Zach Edey – C – Purdue
Tyler Smith – PF/C – GLeague
Babacar Sane – F – GLeague
Omaha Biliew – PF/C – Iowa StateJohnell Davis – G – Florida Atlantic
Jaedon LeDee – PF/C- Sand Diego State
Aidan Mahaney – G – St. Mary’s
Caleb Foster – G – Duke
Andrej Stojakovic – SG/SF – Stanford
Bobi Klintman – F – Australia
Tyler Kolek – G – Marquette
Kylan Boswell – G – Arizona
Keion Brooks, Jr. – SG/SF – Washington
Dalton Knecht – G/SF – Tennessee
Tristan Da Silva – F – Colorado
Alex Karaban – PF – UConn
Ajay Mitchell – G – UC Santa Barbara
Adem Bona – C – UCLA
Alijah Martin – SG – Florida Atlantic
Terrence Shannon, Jr. – SG/SF – Illinois
Taran Armstrong – PG – Australia
Tyler Burton – F – Villanova
Great Osobor – PF/C Utah State
Isaiah Stevens – G – Colorado State
Tramon Mark – SG/SF – Arkansas
Branden Carlson – PF/C – Utah
Aaron Estrada – G – Alabama
RayJ Dennis – G – Baylor
PJ Hall – PF/C – Clemson
Clarence Daniels – SG/SF – New Hampshire
Baylor Scheierman – G/SF – Creighton
Nikola Djurisic – G/SF – Serbia
Coleman Hawkins – PF/C – Illinois
Caleb Love – Arizona
Jamal Shead – G – Houston
LJ Cryer – G – Houston
Allen Flanigan – SG/SF – Ole’ Miss0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2023 - 4:40am #1262034
HitsterParticipantGreat list as always, I’ve been busy with a lot of things so haven’t followed college ball that much this season let alone the G and overseas leagues. But will look to get up to speed before the end of the year.
1+ - Posted on: Tue, 12/12/2023 - 11:05pm #1262137
BothTeamsPlayedHard-ParticipantI think there is still a lot of weight on perception rather than reality in a lot of early lists. Honestly, at this point, I can’t get my head around Kyle Filipowski being a possible lottery pick and PJ Hall only a possible 2nd rounder. Both are good college players, Hall is better. For what people perceive to be Filipowski’s NBA future, as a stretch 4 or a center-less look 5, Hall is simply better at it. He is a better perimeter shooter and better putting the ball on the floor and creating. Clingan does not strike me as a lottery prospect. He is huge and relatively athletic for his size, but his lack of skill development has hindered his ability to go from a very effective backup center to a decent starter. I have not seen enough of Stephon Castle to have a sense as to where he is at. It is a long season, but it has not been a particularly strong NCAA based one-and-done crop as of yet. Ja’Kobe Walter has been off to a nice start, but Baylor hasn’t exactly scheduled much to date. It will change. They have Michigan State (albeit a bad Michigan State team) on Saturday and Duke (albeit not living up to expectations) in a week. Justin Edwards has Cam Reddish vibes. He will still be perceived as a lottery pick due to his projectable traits, even though his game screams otherwise. Cody Williams seemingly started to find a groove. He had a very strong second half against Colorado State to make that game appear close, but has now gotten hurt. Isaiah Collier is a talented point guard, but I don’t see him as the kind of guard that the Wizards or Spurs need. He feels more like a throwback power point than what is now common. Even someone like Baron Davis had a lot of explosion to his game. Carlton Carrington got off to a hot start against overmatched opposition, but his splits against major opposition are quite stark. In 5 games against, Florida, Oregon State, Missouri, Clemson, and WV (of whom only Clemson is undeniably good), he is averaging 12 PPG on 35% from the floor, and 23% from three. I’d pump the breaks on him at this point. He will have a whole ACC season to prove himself, but at this point I wouldn’t be overly excited. Aday Mara needs multiple years in college. He could end up making the kind of leap Kel’el Ware made from year one to year two, but if he is far from strong enough to deal with college big men what is jumping to the NBA prematurely going to do to him? Reed Sheppard is Kentucky’s best player, but that doesn’t make him a great prospect anymore so than it did Oscar Tshiebwe. He is a 6’2″ guard who is not a great athlete. He can shoot. Kyle Guy and Bryn Forbes were great in college too. The NBA wasn’t all that interested in them. The whole Kentucky thing isn’t what it once was. They haven’t won a title in more than a decade, and going on year nine without a Final Four appearance. It is not as if teams in the league went nuts over Tyty Washington. I think Rob Dillingham could garner more interest, but he is a smaller Cason Wallace.
I think the beneficiaries will be the international crop of players with projectable traits. Zaccharie Risacher, Melvin Ajinca, Tidjane Salaun, and Alex Sarr have run hot and cold over their first quarters of the season, but are young, long, athletic, and fit the mold of what teams want prospects to look and project to play like. It could very well be a year where the majority of the lottery picks come from outside the NCAA. Even if I was to put in Edwards (simply off the Cam Reddish precedent), Williams, Walter, Castle, Ware, and Collier, I could see Alex Sarr, Bobi Klintman (22 points in his last outing https://youtu.be/VVS9oLPkNoc?si=8lylIJnOiBNwlfi8 ), Nikola Topic (just had a 21-5-5 against a Euroleague team) the grouping of Rischer, Ajinca, Salaun (more Coulibaly/Dieng mold of justification), as well as the G-League Igniters Matas Buzelis, Tyler Smith, and Ron Holland.
1+ - Posted on: Wed, 12/13/2023 - 8:07pm #1262158
NorrinRaddParticipantYeah, these early big boards are a small sample size for sure… The next one will be different. This draft class is kinda salty this year. Similar to maybe 2016, but even slightly weaker perhaps… eek! Some bright spots of course, but no sure fire prospects at least displayed yet.
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