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  • #57523
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    JM40
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    Now that it seems the attention amongst the draft fanatics has turned to 2015, here is my early look at the top 5 prospects at each position.

    PG-
    1 Emmanuel Mudiay/China
    2 Tyus Jones/Duke
    3 Andrew Harrison/Kentucky
    4 Marcus Foster/Kansas State
    5 Delon Wright/Utah

    SG-
    Wayne Selden/Kansas
    Aaron Harrison/Kentucky
    Mario Hezonja/Croatia
    Jabari Bird/California
    Caris LeVert/Michigan

    SF-
    Stanley Johnson/Arizona
    Kelly Oubre/Kansas
    Sam Dekker/Wisconsin
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/Arizona
    Justin Jackson/North Carolina

    PF-
    Cliff Alexander/Kansas
    Kristaps Porzingis/Latvia
    Kevon Looney/UCLA
    Montrezl Harrell/Louisville
    Shawn Long/LA Lafayette

    C-
    Jahlil Okafor/Duke
    Karl Towns Jr./Kentucky
    Myles Turner/Texas
    Kaleb Tarczewski/Arizona
    Willie Cauley-Stein/Kentucky

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  • #939328
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    Zarathustra
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     I’m high on Hezonja,he could be the best SG prospect.Let’s hope he’ll have more playing time on a loaded Barcelona team.

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  • #939460
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    Zarathustra
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     I’m high on Hezonja,he could be the best SG prospect.Let’s hope he’ll have more playing time on a loaded Barcelona team.

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  • #939330
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     Tyus Jones– This is a weak PG class, but I do not think that he is gonna be a one and done.  He is a skinny six feet and does not have the quickness.  His game is build with him mind and playmaking, and that has to be at an extremely high level if you are going to be an NBA PG.   He is a Jose Calderon type PG.

     

    Cliff Alexander–I thik its a gbit pre mature to put him as the 1 PF.  He is extremely raw and needs to trim down.  He must improve his footwork on just catch and dunks.  Plus in today’s NBA he probably projects as a Center because of his limited outside game.

     

    Wayne Selden–This is the guy I’m most excited to see in the NCAA next year.  He had knee surgery after the season and has regained hiss explosiveness.  He is a guy who is gonna break free of the shadow of Wiggins and Embiid and flourish playing alongside someone else other than Naadir Tharpe.

     

     

     

     

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  • #939462
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     Tyus Jones– This is a weak PG class, but I do not think that he is gonna be a one and done.  He is a skinny six feet and does not have the quickness.  His game is build with him mind and playmaking, and that has to be at an extremely high level if you are going to be an NBA PG.   He is a Jose Calderon type PG.

     

    Cliff Alexander–I thik its a gbit pre mature to put him as the 1 PF.  He is extremely raw and needs to trim down.  He must improve his footwork on just catch and dunks.  Plus in today’s NBA he probably projects as a Center because of his limited outside game.

     

    Wayne Selden–This is the guy I’m most excited to see in the NCAA next year.  He had knee surgery after the season and has regained hiss explosiveness.  He is a guy who is gonna break free of the shadow of Wiggins and Embiid and flourish playing alongside someone else other than Naadir Tharpe.

     

     

     

     

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  • #939332
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    Hale
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    No Trey Lyles?

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  • #939464
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    Hale
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    No Trey Lyles?

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  • #939340
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    TenSecondTom
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     Hezonja is most definitely the most talented SG at this stage it’s just a matter of playing time next year for him. Also I think for right now Porzingis ahead of Alexander until Cliff shows he can dominate at a higher level. Although I agree with you,  WCS under Tarcz might be questionable to some. Also, I like Rondae Hollis over Dekker at this point , I see a Leonard  type work ethic; he’s a type of player that all championship teams need.

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  • #939472
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    TenSecondTom
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     Hezonja is most definitely the most talented SG at this stage it’s just a matter of playing time next year for him. Also I think for right now Porzingis ahead of Alexander until Cliff shows he can dominate at a higher level. Although I agree with you,  WCS under Tarcz might be questionable to some. Also, I like Rondae Hollis over Dekker at this point , I see a Leonard  type work ethic; he’s a type of player that all championship teams need.

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  • #939342
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     stanley johnson is who i’m excited to see play he’s going to be a beast.top 3 pick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • #939474
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     stanley johnson is who i’m excited to see play he’s going to be a beast.top 3 pick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • #939338
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    TRC1991
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    Kansas has no excuses not to kick major ass this season 

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    • #939529
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      ncballer

      Not exactly sure why you got negged for that.  But whatever.  It will be a really exciting year of college B-ball.  

      UK, Wisconsin, UNC, Duke, Arizona, KU are all stacked with talent and I honestly can’t decide who edges who out yet.

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    • #939662
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      ncballer

      Not exactly sure why you got negged for that.  But whatever.  It will be a really exciting year of college B-ball.  

      UK, Wisconsin, UNC, Duke, Arizona, KU are all stacked with talent and I honestly can’t decide who edges who out yet.

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  • #939470
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    TRC1991
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    Kansas has no excuses not to kick major ass this season 

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  • #939348
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    gobullz
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     The moment Cliff Alexander steps on the floor, he will be the #1 prospect in college.  Been watching this kid since he was in 8th grade.  He can shoot out to 17 feet.  Think Amare Stoudamire with Rim Protection abilities.

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    • #939383
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      Fritz
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       Im a big KU fan so I hope you are right, but I dont see the #1 prospect from my youtube scouting and watching 2 of his games. Clearly you have seen more of him then me so can you elaborate more? 

      His highlights are all mainly power dunks. He seems stronger than Amare, but I dont think he has Amare’s leaping ability. I hope we see that 17 foot jumper next year. Other than that I have not seen any good footage of him using post moves, shot fakes, and using good foot work. Maybe he has it, but from youtube I cannot tell. Im personally higher on Oubre and Seldon, although I think Oubre is more raw I dont see Cliff currently being a great scorer at the NBA level. But I hope you are right and a few Kansas games will change my opinion fast.

       

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    • #939516
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      Fritz
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       Im a big KU fan so I hope you are right, but I dont see the #1 prospect from my youtube scouting and watching 2 of his games. Clearly you have seen more of him then me so can you elaborate more? 

      His highlights are all mainly power dunks. He seems stronger than Amare, but I dont think he has Amare’s leaping ability. I hope we see that 17 foot jumper next year. Other than that I have not seen any good footage of him using post moves, shot fakes, and using good foot work. Maybe he has it, but from youtube I cannot tell. Im personally higher on Oubre and Seldon, although I think Oubre is more raw I dont see Cliff currently being a great scorer at the NBA level. But I hope you are right and a few Kansas games will change my opinion fast.

       

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  • #939480
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    gobullz
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     The moment Cliff Alexander steps on the floor, he will be the #1 prospect in college.  Been watching this kid since he was in 8th grade.  He can shoot out to 17 feet.  Think Amare Stoudamire with Rim Protection abilities.

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  • #939350
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    Carolinaborn82
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     how can this list not include an all American Marcus Paige

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  • #939482
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    Carolinaborn82
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     how can this list not include an all American Marcus Paige

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  • #939352
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    WolfRob
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     I’ve got Frank Kaminsky over Kaleb.. I had the opportunity to see that match up in person in the tournament last season and Frank just destroyed him. Put on a clinic.

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    • #939362
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      Moon River
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      Agree withWolfRob.  Frank is going to be a force at center this year.  Will be a stretch four due to his inability to defend centers at the next level though.

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    • #939494
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      Moon River
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      Agree withWolfRob.  Frank is going to be a force at center this year.  Will be a stretch four due to his inability to defend centers at the next level though.

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    • #939577
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      Magic Jordan
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       I agree with Kaminsky,  I am surprised that he is a 2nd rounder on here, even for a first mock that seems low.  He has to be a lock at least for the late 1st based off of his skill set and shooting alone.  

      Most of all I am just glad the focus can shift from the soap opera off season to the draft!!

       

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    • #939710
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      Magic Jordan
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       I agree with Kaminsky,  I am surprised that he is a 2nd rounder on here, even for a first mock that seems low.  He has to be a lock at least for the late 1st based off of his skill set and shooting alone.  

      Most of all I am just glad the focus can shift from the soap opera off season to the draft!!

       

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  • #939484
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    WolfRob
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     I’ve got Frank Kaminsky over Kaleb.. I had the opportunity to see that match up in person in the tournament last season and Frank just destroyed him. Put on a clinic.

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  • #939356
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    qDizzle32
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    I’d have Justise Winslow over Justin Jackson. NBA teams will definitely buy into his defense, his aggresiveness to attack the basket. Winslow’s outside game has always been a weakness but he has gotten better at it as I saw in the U18 Americas Tournament. 

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  • #939488
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    qDizzle32
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    I’d have Justise Winslow over Justin Jackson. NBA teams will definitely buy into his defense, his aggresiveness to attack the basket. Winslow’s outside game has always been a weakness but he has gotten better at it as I saw in the U18 Americas Tournament. 

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  • #939360
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    caray12
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     PG:

    1) Emmanuel Mudiay

    2) Andrew Harrison 

    3) Tyus Jones 

    4) Marcus Paige

    5) Delon Wright

    SG:

    1) Mario Hezonja

    2) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

    3) Wayne Seldon

    4) RJ Hunter 

    5) Marc Garcia

    SF:

    1) Kelly Oubre

    2) Stanley Johnson

    3) Chris Walker

    4) Sam Dekker

    5) Justin Jackson

    PF:

    1) Kristaps Porzingis

    2) Cliff Alexander

    3) Myles Turner

    4) Bobby Portis

    5) Montrezl Harrell

    C:

    1) Jahlil Okafor

    2) Karl-Anthony Towns

    3) Willie Cauley-Stein

    4) Frank Kaminsky

    5) Moussa Diagne

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    • #939375
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      MattP31
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      I like some of your rankings but Hollis-Jefferson isn’t a SG and I think Walker is more of a 4 than a 3

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    • #939508
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      MattP31
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      I like some of your rankings but Hollis-Jefferson isn’t a SG and I think Walker is more of a 4 than a 3

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  • #939492
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    caray12
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     PG:

    1) Emmanuel Mudiay

    2) Andrew Harrison 

    3) Tyus Jones 

    4) Marcus Paige

    5) Delon Wright

    SG:

    1) Mario Hezonja

    2) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

    3) Wayne Seldon

    4) RJ Hunter 

    5) Marc Garcia

    SF:

    1) Kelly Oubre

    2) Stanley Johnson

    3) Chris Walker

    4) Sam Dekker

    5) Justin Jackson

    PF:

    1) Kristaps Porzingis

    2) Cliff Alexander

    3) Myles Turner

    4) Bobby Portis

    5) Montrezl Harrell

    C:

    1) Jahlil Okafor

    2) Karl-Anthony Towns

    3) Willie Cauley-Stein

    4) Frank Kaminsky

    5) Moussa Diagne

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  • #939369
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    livinlegend4blk
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     He should be higher great year the defense he played was great and the energy he brought to the floor was Obviously great 

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  • #939502
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    livinlegend4blk
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     He should be higher great year the defense he played was great and the energy he brought to the floor was Obviously great 

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  • #939530
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    Ghost01
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     I believe this is draft projection…Hence why I believe Paige and Kaminsky were omitted… 

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  • #939397
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    Ghost01
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     I believe this is draft projection…Hence why I believe Paige and Kaminsky were omitted… 

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  • #939542
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    ncballer

     Surprised at the Sam Dekker love, but perhaps I didn’t see a lot of them.  I was perplexed as well about Tyus Jones at number 2, but thinking about it, this class is super weak with PG’s.  Also no love for Brice Johnson?  This guy is a scoring machine and a freak athlete.  

     

    PG:
    1.  Emmanual Mudiay
    2.  Tyus Jones
    3.  Marcus Paige
    4.  Andrew Harrison
    5.  Delon Wright

    Sleeper:  Jerian Grant  

    SG:
    1.  Wayne Selden
    2.  Chris Lavert
    3.  Mario Hezonja
    4.  Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 
    5.  Aaron Harrison 

    Sleeper: Norman Powell

    SF:  (this is the year of the freshman)

    1.  Stanley Johnson
    2.  Justise Winslow (super high on this kid)
    3.  Kelly Oubre
    4.  Justin Jackson
    5.  Sam Dekker

    Sleeper:  JP Tokoto

    PF:  

    1.  Cliff Alexander
    2.  Montrezl Harrel
    3.  Brice Johnson 
    4.  Kevon Looney
    5.  Marcus Lee

    Sleeper:  Chris Walker

    C:

    1.  Karl Towns (I will get crucified for this I know, I feel the negs coming.)
    2.  Jahlil Okafor
    3.  Dakari Johnson (more negs?)
    4.  Myles Turner
    5.  Tarc

    Sleeper:  Przemek Karnowski

     

     

     

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  • #939409
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    ncballer

     Surprised at the Sam Dekker love, but perhaps I didn’t see a lot of them.  I was perplexed as well about Tyus Jones at number 2, but thinking about it, this class is super weak with PG’s.  Also no love for Brice Johnson?  This guy is a scoring machine and a freak athlete.  

     

    PG:
    1.  Emmanual Mudiay
    2.  Tyus Jones
    3.  Marcus Paige
    4.  Andrew Harrison
    5.  Delon Wright

    Sleeper:  Jerian Grant  

    SG:
    1.  Wayne Selden
    2.  Chris Lavert
    3.  Mario Hezonja
    4.  Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 
    5.  Aaron Harrison 

    Sleeper: Norman Powell

    SF:  (this is the year of the freshman)

    1.  Stanley Johnson
    2.  Justise Winslow (super high on this kid)
    3.  Kelly Oubre
    4.  Justin Jackson
    5.  Sam Dekker

    Sleeper:  JP Tokoto

    PF:  

    1.  Cliff Alexander
    2.  Montrezl Harrel
    3.  Brice Johnson 
    4.  Kevon Looney
    5.  Marcus Lee

    Sleeper:  Chris Walker

    C:

    1.  Karl Towns (I will get crucified for this I know, I feel the negs coming.)
    2.  Jahlil Okafor
    3.  Dakari Johnson (more negs?)
    4.  Myles Turner
    5.  Tarc

    Sleeper:  Przemek Karnowski

     

     

     

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  • #939556
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    SixerBlood
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     Is def top 2 pg in this class. He has size, shooting range and he is a playmaker. He turned it on for majority of the season last year and UNC should and will probably be a "FORCE" this year with all the talent they have.

    Paige

    Britt

    Pinson

    Johnson

    Meek 

    Hicks

    Tokoto 

    Also how is Bryce Johnson ranked top 15 on the draft board but not on you guys lists? He def has more skills than most of these freshman you have up here.

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  • #939423
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    SixerBlood
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     Is def top 2 pg in this class. He has size, shooting range and he is a playmaker. He turned it on for majority of the season last year and UNC should and will probably be a "FORCE" this year with all the talent they have.

    Paige

    Britt

    Pinson

    Johnson

    Meek 

    Hicks

    Tokoto 

    Also how is Bryce Johnson ranked top 15 on the draft board but not on you guys lists? He def has more skills than most of these freshman you have up here.

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  • #939560
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    SixerBlood
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    I forgot about the "KING OF FLOATERS" Justin Jackson!  UNC is LOADED!!!

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  • #939427
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    SixerBlood
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    I forgot about the "KING OF FLOATERS" Justin Jackson!  UNC is LOADED!!!

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  • #939585
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    ExumInferno
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     Some great lists, I would have Jabari Bird a bit higher, and Kaminsky also should be someone who does a lot to impress scouts this season.

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  • #939718
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    ExumInferno
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     Some great lists, I would have Jabari Bird a bit higher, and Kaminsky also should be someone who does a lot to impress scouts this season.

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