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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 6:18pm #61322
valentineKAT – Al Horford. Towns didn’t really impress in Summer League, and it’s not hard to wonder if his toughness and scorer’s mentality were overrated pre-draft. I just get the feeling he’s going to play a bit smaller than he is, and he’s not the biggest guy to begin with.
Russell – Austin Rivers/Kendall Marshall hybrid. Like Rivers, D’Angelo is super-confident in his abilities. I’ll just leave it at that…
Okafor – Big Al. It’s not an insulting comparison, that kind of talent can land you a prime Kevin Garnett once in a while. Bad luck landing in Philly, should have shown more in his workout for the LA short buss caravan.
Porzingis – Kevin Garnett. What Porzingis lacks in KG’s athleticism, he makes up for in height and length. Just wait until Porzingis gets ONE year under his belt. His IQ is very high, and he will adapt and dominate.
Hezonja – Reggie Miller. Franchise player on a decent team, go-to scorer, handful of all star games, clutch.
WCS – DeAndre Jordan. No wait, I change my mind. No I don’t.
Mudiay – Tyreke Evans. Pretty cool, I guess.
Stanley – Paul Pierce. Way underrated as a shooter and a scorer. Like Pierce, he’s a power 2 who will settle into SF, and then thrive as a small 4 in his later years. Like Pierce, he’ll make his living at the FT line in his early years, and settle into a 3 point sniper role in his last years. 22 ppg for his career, would be my prediction. Two way star.
Kaminsky – David Lee. High bbiq guy who can use both hands and make the offense flow. Can be your 3rd big on a championship team. Underrated right now.
Winslow – Jae Crowder. A for effort, but his genetics are husky, and he’s losing the explosiveness that once separated him athletically from Stanley Johnson (and Jae Crowder).
Myles Turner – As good a prospect as Porzingis, and then some. If Turner pulled out the Dream Shake at Texas, perhaps the comparison would be more obvious. As Turner continues to polish his post game, he’s going to be completely unguardable in the NBA. His standing reach is one inch shorter than Shaq’s.
Trey Lyles – Lamar Odom. Versatile, underrated, impactful. 3rd option on a good team.
Devin Booker – Shabazz Muhammad. Booker is only 206 lbs now, but he’s still 18 years old, the same age Shabazz was in middle school. Booker has the length to play plenty of SF as he continues to fill out.
Cam Payne – DJ Augustin. Will struggle to defend starting PGs, but will suffice as a starting PG. Not good enough to avoid drafting a better starting pg.
Oubre – Paul George. At least that’s what he would have been in a better situation. But with talk of Otto Porter playing minutes at PF, there will be a lot of minutes for the brash Kelly Oubre, who has more talent than Bradley Beal. Luckily, there’s room for everybody.
Rozier – John Wall 2013. Now you know why he got drafted 16th. Wall has a length advantage, but Rozier is a bit quicker, being shorter. Strength-wise these two are the same, but Rozier projects to be a much better 3 point shooter. Rozier’s standing vert was 33" compared to Wall’s 30", though Wall’s max vert was 39" compared to Rozier’s 38". Rebounding-wise they’re about the same. Defensively, they are equals. What Wall has in length, Rozier makes up for by having a much more ferocious, and natural, defensive mentality.
Rashad Vaughn – Brandon Knight. Vaughn is considered a SG right now rather than a combo-guard, but that will change. I suspect the Bucks saw a lot of Brandon Knight in Vaughn, and MCW could have some real competition for the starting pg job. Vaughn is underrated as a ballhandler/playmaker/passer, because he played like a black hole on a bad UNLV team. Vaughn would space the floor much more effectively than MCW, opening up much needed space for Giannis, Jabari, and Monroe. Because the spacing with MCW simply sucks. Just like it sucked when the Bucks finished the season 10-18 with MCW.
Sam Dekker – Jeff Green. Solid starter but streaky.
Jerian Grant – Chauncey Billups. Clutch shooter, versatile, natural leader, two way player.
This draft is really good. Every draft class is underrated at first, and then the next thing you know Draymond Green is a star and Jae Crowder is making 7 million per year.
The coolest thing to do in draft circles is to say that every single draft class isn’t deep. It’s so cool that nobody ever says otherwise, unless there are 4 hall of famers in the top 10.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:44pm #1010226
SkalAndJamalParticipantEasily the worst list of comparisons I have ever seen.
0- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 10:00pm #1010236
Rip255One of the funniest though. I actually appreciated the effort cos those kinda posts take a lot of effort.
Ive seen worse on this site for sure.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 10:00pm #1010375
Rip255One of the funniest though. I actually appreciated the effort cos those kinda posts take a lot of effort.
Ive seen worse on this site for sure.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:44pm #1010365
SkalAndJamalParticipantEasily the worst list of comparisons I have ever seen.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 9:50pm #1010230
For_Never_EverParticipantSmh, and I thought this was the greatest bigmen class ever.
0- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 4:55am #1010252
T RexIt is. This list took more work than I thought, so I didn’t get to guys like Portis, Harrell, and Mickey.
If Portis didn’t look like a legit star in summer league, I don’t know what to tell you. If Mickey didn’t look like Serge Ibaka, I don’t know what to tell you.
I guess KG, Hakeem, Bosh, Ibaka, and a bunch of others in one single draft isn’t enough for you.
SMDH
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 4:55am #1010391
T RexIt is. This list took more work than I thought, so I didn’t get to guys like Portis, Harrell, and Mickey.
If Portis didn’t look like a legit star in summer league, I don’t know what to tell you. If Mickey didn’t look like Serge Ibaka, I don’t know what to tell you.
I guess KG, Hakeem, Bosh, Ibaka, and a bunch of others in one single draft isn’t enough for you.
SMDH
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 9:50pm #1010369
For_Never_EverParticipantSmh, and I thought this was the greatest bigmen class ever.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 9:56pm #1010234
Rip255Haha Dangelo Russell…
He wears number 0 because he thinks theres no one who can guard him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 9:56pm #1010373
Rip255Haha Dangelo Russell…
He wears number 0 because he thinks theres no one who can guard him.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 1:16am #1010240
Robb_CParticipantDo you even watch basketball?
“I reward you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul”
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 1:16am #1010379
Robb_CParticipantDo you even watch basketball?
“I reward you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul”
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 4:09am #1010246
TarHeelRavenParticipantYou have -1257 points on 288 posts. I think that should say something about your basketball knowledge. Porzingis compared to Kevin Garnett???? Put down the crack. I’m suggesting you post on a curling or rugby forum, you might have better luck there because your knowledge of basketball is non-existent.
0- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 5:14am #1010254
T RexYou guys all slept on Rudy Gobert, giving me tons of negs in the process.
Now we see a Latvian with identical defensive tools as Gobert, but with a money 3 point shot, and complete offensive game, and you seem to think he’s another Bargnani.
Just like you ALL thought Gobert was just another soft euro who "isn’t great at anything".
And the negativity around Myles Turner revolved around how cool, or uncool, he looked while running up and down the court.
Take that shallow analysis to TMZ, this is a basketball forum folks.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 5:14am #1010393
T RexYou guys all slept on Rudy Gobert, giving me tons of negs in the process.
Now we see a Latvian with identical defensive tools as Gobert, but with a money 3 point shot, and complete offensive game, and you seem to think he’s another Bargnani.
Just like you ALL thought Gobert was just another soft euro who "isn’t great at anything".
And the negativity around Myles Turner revolved around how cool, or uncool, he looked while running up and down the court.
Take that shallow analysis to TMZ, this is a basketball forum folks.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/10/2015 - 11:15am #1030405
Gold ChainSeriously, take your shallow analysis to TMZ.
Now everybody’s riding my Porzingis/KG bandwagon.
It’s crazy how bad some of you guys are at spotting elite talent.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/10/2015 - 11:15am #1030541
Gold ChainSeriously, take your shallow analysis to TMZ.
Now everybody’s riding my Porzingis/KG bandwagon.
It’s crazy how bad some of you guys are at spotting elite talent.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 4:09am #1010386
TarHeelRavenParticipantYou have -1257 points on 288 posts. I think that should say something about your basketball knowledge. Porzingis compared to Kevin Garnett???? Put down the crack. I’m suggesting you post on a curling or rugby forum, you might have better luck there because your knowledge of basketball is non-existent.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 5:30am #1010262
SwatLakeCityParticipantI like about half of them. These are the ones I don’t like: Russell, WCS, Kaminsky, Booker, Rozier, Grant, Hezonja, and Oubre.
Russell, is sneaky good, I think he is actually very good fit with the Lakers and should learn a lot from Kobe.
WCS, should have been drafted a lot lower than 6. He is not the next Deandre, more like the next Ostertag or Gadzuric. I honestly don’t know what the Kings were thinking drafting him at 6, they should have gone with Mudiay or Turner.
Kaminsky is 7 feet, and David Lee is 6’9, they don’t even play the same position so how can you even begin to compare the two?
Booker, is a pure outside shooter. I think he’s more comparable to Reggie Miller than Hezonja is. Shabazz isn’t not an outside shooter, and I think he plays SF while Booker will play the two. His explanation doesn’t make any sense. He’s 18 and the same age as Shabazz was in Middle School. That would mean Shabazz would be in like his late twenties yet a 2013 draft pick? He was drafted as a freshman, just two years ago. How is that even possible? I think you meant to say weight. You need to put more thought into your posts or at least reread them before you hit submit.
Hezonja is comparable to Reggie Miller, but he has a lot more athleticism than Miller. I think he is more comparable to Kevin Martin or Klay Thompson.
If Rozier and Grant are that good and Payne is not than why were both Rozier and Grant selected below Payne? Teams have gotten smarter in the draft. Most know what they are doing nowadays. You don’t really see any disasters like you did in the days of David Kahn. (except for the Kings, I don’t know what they are trying to do most drafts) So I think you need to temper your expectations on Rozier and Grant a little.
Oubre is talented, but he’s also very raw. He’s not going to get much playing time with the Wizards this year. Porter is going to start at SF, they still have Nene and Gortat, so there is no way Porter is playing PF this year. Maybe next year or in two years but not this year. Oubre should have stayed another year at Kansas, he really needs to develop his game, and therefore he is not the next PG. I wouldn’t even try to compare him, as he just isn’t ready for the NBA level yet.
Also how can you compare draft picks based just on Summer League? Do you realize what competition most of these players get? Its much worse than the competition the actual season has to offer. Wait a year, see how draftees develop, then I’ll listen to your comparisons.
0- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 7:50am #1010274
ZachAttackParticipantI agree with you. Unfortunately, he’s a Celtics fan so he’s going to overrate them a lot. I’m getting sick of him talking about Rozier and Mickey like they’re gonna be better than Stockton and Malone or something. But, as we should all know, it’s not going to stop.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 7:50am #1010413
ZachAttackParticipantI agree with you. Unfortunately, he’s a Celtics fan so he’s going to overrate them a lot. I’m getting sick of him talking about Rozier and Mickey like they’re gonna be better than Stockton and Malone or something. But, as we should all know, it’s not going to stop.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:20am #1010280
T RexThanks for the detailed reply. It’s easier for me to educate when given specific questions.
You say Russell is sneaky good. There’s no such thing as sneaky good at the guard position, unless a player is 6’7", 230 lbs like Paul Pierce. Russell is sneaky bad, but it won’t be so sneaky once the pre-season starts. NBA guards MUST be athletic, unless they shoot lights out. Russell is the ultimate "All show, no go" player. His only NBA level scoring ability is wide open jumpers, and step-back, closely contested long 2 point jumpers, which he won’t hit at a high %. He can’t get into the lane as a ball handler. Not with speed, and not with strength. He’s just stuck in mud. Defensively it’s going to be ugly. Worse than Damian Lillard ugly. Backup SG at best, or should I say second best, because Russell’s real value is as assistant Tank Commander. The more minutes the better for that.
Re: WCS – Nobody thought DeAndre Jordan would be DeAndre Jordan level either. That’s why he fell to the second round.
Kaminsky isn’t a center, even though he’s 7 foot. He’s a PF/C hybrid, like Lee, but mostly a PF, like Lee. While Lee is very strong, Kaminsky plays smaller than his height because he’s so skinny. But both can score points in a variety of ways, with both hands, and can pass and handle the ball well. Charlotte’s offense just got a lot better, even though it was ultimately a big mistake to pass on the Celtics’ trade offer.
Muhammad shot 39% from 3 last year. While Booker is a better outside shooter and can shoot an even higher % on higher number of shots, there’s still a lot of similarities. Both don’t give you a whole lot of steals or blocks, and neither are gifted passers. Muhammad probably weighs about 215-220, and Booker is going to keep adding weight, just like James Young is doing. Young is up to 220 now, at 19 years old.
As Booker continues to grow into a young adult, he’s just going to get stronger, and it will open up his power game to resemble Muhammad’s power game. Muhammad lied about his age, which is where the joke about him being in middle school comes from. In reality, Muhammad was like a junior in high shool when he was Booker’s age.
Wall is starting to enter his prime, but for years he was mostly just untapped potential, and in 2013 he was only a borderline top 10 PG. Rozier can reach that level in his prime, playing almost exactly the same style as a young John Wall. Rozier’s superior 3 point shot and competitiveness are not things to overlook.
Payne is a lot skinnier than Rozier or Grant, while not having the height to compensate for it. He’ll get posted up by other point guards very easily, and unlike Rozier and Grant, Payne doesn’t have the versatility to defend nba SGs. Payne will probably have a better career than Augustin, but weighing 180 lbs at 22 years old suggests he’s going to face the same injury risks as Augustin. While Payne is taller than Isaiah Thomas, they weigh about the same, and Payne doesn’t have near the quickness or explosiveness as IT4. Thomas is a tough fit as a starting point guard, because he can be posted up so easily. Payne will probably be a poor man’s IT4, which is about what Augustin was in his prime.
Nobody thought Paul George was going to develop into Paul George either. While Oubre may never be as hard a worker as PG13, he’s got a lot more natural scoring touch. Oubre may not start at SF, but I never said he would. I just said he’d get plenty of minutes at SG and SF, in part because Porter will play SOME PF. But it’s probably just a matter of weeks or months before Oubre does beat out Porter for the starting SF spot, whether people realize it or not. Oubre has great confidence for a young rookie, and with his elite talent, that confidence goes a very, very long way.
These player comparisons were based not just on summer league, but rather a combination of summer league, college play, and the pre-draft process. All available information.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:20am #1010419
T RexThanks for the detailed reply. It’s easier for me to educate when given specific questions.
You say Russell is sneaky good. There’s no such thing as sneaky good at the guard position, unless a player is 6’7", 230 lbs like Paul Pierce. Russell is sneaky bad, but it won’t be so sneaky once the pre-season starts. NBA guards MUST be athletic, unless they shoot lights out. Russell is the ultimate "All show, no go" player. His only NBA level scoring ability is wide open jumpers, and step-back, closely contested long 2 point jumpers, which he won’t hit at a high %. He can’t get into the lane as a ball handler. Not with speed, and not with strength. He’s just stuck in mud. Defensively it’s going to be ugly. Worse than Damian Lillard ugly. Backup SG at best, or should I say second best, because Russell’s real value is as assistant Tank Commander. The more minutes the better for that.
Re: WCS – Nobody thought DeAndre Jordan would be DeAndre Jordan level either. That’s why he fell to the second round.
Kaminsky isn’t a center, even though he’s 7 foot. He’s a PF/C hybrid, like Lee, but mostly a PF, like Lee. While Lee is very strong, Kaminsky plays smaller than his height because he’s so skinny. But both can score points in a variety of ways, with both hands, and can pass and handle the ball well. Charlotte’s offense just got a lot better, even though it was ultimately a big mistake to pass on the Celtics’ trade offer.
Muhammad shot 39% from 3 last year. While Booker is a better outside shooter and can shoot an even higher % on higher number of shots, there’s still a lot of similarities. Both don’t give you a whole lot of steals or blocks, and neither are gifted passers. Muhammad probably weighs about 215-220, and Booker is going to keep adding weight, just like James Young is doing. Young is up to 220 now, at 19 years old.
As Booker continues to grow into a young adult, he’s just going to get stronger, and it will open up his power game to resemble Muhammad’s power game. Muhammad lied about his age, which is where the joke about him being in middle school comes from. In reality, Muhammad was like a junior in high shool when he was Booker’s age.
Wall is starting to enter his prime, but for years he was mostly just untapped potential, and in 2013 he was only a borderline top 10 PG. Rozier can reach that level in his prime, playing almost exactly the same style as a young John Wall. Rozier’s superior 3 point shot and competitiveness are not things to overlook.
Payne is a lot skinnier than Rozier or Grant, while not having the height to compensate for it. He’ll get posted up by other point guards very easily, and unlike Rozier and Grant, Payne doesn’t have the versatility to defend nba SGs. Payne will probably have a better career than Augustin, but weighing 180 lbs at 22 years old suggests he’s going to face the same injury risks as Augustin. While Payne is taller than Isaiah Thomas, they weigh about the same, and Payne doesn’t have near the quickness or explosiveness as IT4. Thomas is a tough fit as a starting point guard, because he can be posted up so easily. Payne will probably be a poor man’s IT4, which is about what Augustin was in his prime.
Nobody thought Paul George was going to develop into Paul George either. While Oubre may never be as hard a worker as PG13, he’s got a lot more natural scoring touch. Oubre may not start at SF, but I never said he would. I just said he’d get plenty of minutes at SG and SF, in part because Porter will play SOME PF. But it’s probably just a matter of weeks or months before Oubre does beat out Porter for the starting SF spot, whether people realize it or not. Oubre has great confidence for a young rookie, and with his elite talent, that confidence goes a very, very long way.
These player comparisons were based not just on summer league, but rather a combination of summer league, college play, and the pre-draft process. All available information.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 5:00pm #1010490
whiteflashParticipantHis Muhammed comparison was a joke ’cause the kid lied about his age and was two years ahead of his graduating class.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 5:00pm #1010629
whiteflashParticipantHis Muhammed comparison was a joke ’cause the kid lied about his age and was two years ahead of his graduating class.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 5:30am #1010401
SwatLakeCityParticipantI like about half of them. These are the ones I don’t like: Russell, WCS, Kaminsky, Booker, Rozier, Grant, Hezonja, and Oubre.
Russell, is sneaky good, I think he is actually very good fit with the Lakers and should learn a lot from Kobe.
WCS, should have been drafted a lot lower than 6. He is not the next Deandre, more like the next Ostertag or Gadzuric. I honestly don’t know what the Kings were thinking drafting him at 6, they should have gone with Mudiay or Turner.
Kaminsky is 7 feet, and David Lee is 6’9, they don’t even play the same position so how can you even begin to compare the two?
Booker, is a pure outside shooter. I think he’s more comparable to Reggie Miller than Hezonja is. Shabazz isn’t not an outside shooter, and I think he plays SF while Booker will play the two. His explanation doesn’t make any sense. He’s 18 and the same age as Shabazz was in Middle School. That would mean Shabazz would be in like his late twenties yet a 2013 draft pick? He was drafted as a freshman, just two years ago. How is that even possible? I think you meant to say weight. You need to put more thought into your posts or at least reread them before you hit submit.
Hezonja is comparable to Reggie Miller, but he has a lot more athleticism than Miller. I think he is more comparable to Kevin Martin or Klay Thompson.
If Rozier and Grant are that good and Payne is not than why were both Rozier and Grant selected below Payne? Teams have gotten smarter in the draft. Most know what they are doing nowadays. You don’t really see any disasters like you did in the days of David Kahn. (except for the Kings, I don’t know what they are trying to do most drafts) So I think you need to temper your expectations on Rozier and Grant a little.
Oubre is talented, but he’s also very raw. He’s not going to get much playing time with the Wizards this year. Porter is going to start at SF, they still have Nene and Gortat, so there is no way Porter is playing PF this year. Maybe next year or in two years but not this year. Oubre should have stayed another year at Kansas, he really needs to develop his game, and therefore he is not the next PG. I wouldn’t even try to compare him, as he just isn’t ready for the NBA level yet.
Also how can you compare draft picks based just on Summer League? Do you realize what competition most of these players get? Its much worse than the competition the actual season has to offer. Wait a year, see how draftees develop, then I’ll listen to your comparisons.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 7:02am #1010272
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantDevin booker in no way reminds me of shabazz Muhammad. I actually see a lot of similarities to Allan Houston in his game. Houston was a pure shooter as well, with underrated athleticism. He became a much better all-around scorer as his career progressed.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 7:02am #1010411
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantDevin booker in no way reminds me of shabazz Muhammad. I actually see a lot of similarities to Allan Houston in his game. Houston was a pure shooter as well, with underrated athleticism. He became a much better all-around scorer as his career progressed.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:02am #1010276
RUDEBOY_Participanti ”only” agree with 2 of your comparisions..those r jarian grant to billups and mudiay to tyreke evans……
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:02am #1010415
RUDEBOY_Participanti ”only” agree with 2 of your comparisions..those r jarian grant to billups and mudiay to tyreke evans……
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 10:04pm #1010531
GStatesince88ParticipantK. Anthony-Towns: Not easy to put a finger on, Karl did not have freedom to shoot 3s in college. Could go in the direction of a better version of Robert Horry, A. Horford was not the worst comparison on that list. I feel KAT is one of those guys who will create a new mold, and there are a few on this list.
D. Russell: Tough one at first, but then it becomes clear. Who is another lefty at around 6’5 who is not overly athletic, can handle, shoot, and distribute in creative ways like a PG? Manu Giniobili. People say that Russell will play PG, I just don’t see it happening on this team. He may play interchangeably with J. Clarkson for the most part, but Clarkson will be the starting PG. From what I see, Clarkson and Russell could be the the best 1/2 tandem down the line.
J. Okafor: A. Jefferson was not a bad comparison here. Similar skillset (adept low post scoring), athleticism, but Okafor has a higher ceiling and better ability to defend centers.
K. Porzingis: Another guy who will have the ability to really make a mark and open doors. Is he going to play like Dirk, like Yi Jianlin, like a Rik Smits? Honestly I think he will be a better version of Yi Jianlin. Stretch 4 with above average athleticism who has a ton of potential.
M. Hezonja: Logical comparison here can be D. Gallinari, although Hezonja’s ceiling could be a bit higher. Both have sneaky athleticism, good versatility as scorers, some killer instict.
W. Cauley-Stein: Someone who runs the floor, plays with high energy, does the little defensive things, not a an overly skilled offensive player…. J. Noah comes to mind. I think WCS will fulfill a similar role in his career.
E. Mudiay: T. Evans was not a bad comparison here. I would say he will end up somewhere in between Evans and J. Wall. He is young, has size and strength, and ton of potentail. One thing that dictates these comparisons is the apparent lack of outside touch. He could be better than Wall should he overcome that short-coming.
S. Johnson: Johnson is a marvel at his age, just a tank. In the mold of the J. Butler (25 yrs.) and K. Leonard (24 yrs.). I believe Johnson (19 yrs.) is naturally stronger than both, and has the same versatile skillset. Great defender, can play 2 or 3, and can score in a variety of ways.
F. Kaminski: Could bring to the table similar to what Sam Perkins did (up to*): 15 pts, 8 boards, 3 dimes, 1.5 blk, 1.5 3. He and A. Jefferson will be used interchangebly at 4 & 5 dependingi on defensive matchups.
Fin – Part I
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 10:04pm #1010392
GStatesince88ParticipantK. Anthony-Towns: Not easy to put a finger on, Karl did not have freedom to shoot 3s in college. Could go in the direction of a better version of Robert Horry, A. Horford was not the worst comparison on that list. I feel KAT is one of those guys who will create a new mold, and there are a few on this list.
D. Russell: Tough one at first, but then it becomes clear. Who is another lefty at around 6’5 who is not overly athletic, can handle, shoot, and distribute in creative ways like a PG? Manu Giniobili. People say that Russell will play PG, I just don’t see it happening on this team. He may play interchangeably with J. Clarkson for the most part, but Clarkson will be the starting PG. From what I see, Clarkson and Russell could be the the best 1/2 tandem down the line.
J. Okafor: A. Jefferson was not a bad comparison here. Similar skillset (adept low post scoring), athleticism, but Okafor has a higher ceiling and better ability to defend centers.
K. Porzingis: Another guy who will have the ability to really make a mark and open doors. Is he going to play like Dirk, like Yi Jianlin, like a Rik Smits? Honestly I think he will be a better version of Yi Jianlin. Stretch 4 with above average athleticism who has a ton of potential.
M. Hezonja: Logical comparison here can be D. Gallinari, although Hezonja’s ceiling could be a bit higher. Both have sneaky athleticism, good versatility as scorers, some killer instict.
W. Cauley-Stein: Someone who runs the floor, plays with high energy, does the little defensive things, not a an overly skilled offensive player…. J. Noah comes to mind. I think WCS will fulfill a similar role in his career.
E. Mudiay: T. Evans was not a bad comparison here. I would say he will end up somewhere in between Evans and J. Wall. He is young, has size and strength, and ton of potentail. One thing that dictates these comparisons is the apparent lack of outside touch. He could be better than Wall should he overcome that short-coming.
S. Johnson: Johnson is a marvel at his age, just a tank. In the mold of the J. Butler (25 yrs.) and K. Leonard (24 yrs.). I believe Johnson (19 yrs.) is naturally stronger than both, and has the same versatile skillset. Great defender, can play 2 or 3, and can score in a variety of ways.
F. Kaminski: Could bring to the table similar to what Sam Perkins did (up to*): 15 pts, 8 boards, 3 dimes, 1.5 blk, 1.5 3. He and A. Jefferson will be used interchangebly at 4 & 5 dependingi on defensive matchups.
Fin – Part I
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 3:29pm #1010478
T RexDelon Wright – Jeremy Lin
Justin Anderson – Vince Carter. The older version that developed into a 3 point shooting specialist.
Bobby Portis – Chris Bosh. No doubt.
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson – Tony Allen
Tyus Jones – Tim Frazier
Jarrell Martin – Julius Randle
RJ Hunter – Steph Curry. Basketball fathers, milf white mothers, 89% FT shooting for both of them, the same magestic grace that makes every movement into poetry. The game is changing, folks, it’s not for guys who pick up the game after 5 years old. Just too far behind the curve.
How will Hunter’s success affect future drafts? Front offices will start looking for the 89-90% FT shooting in college, and will no longer overlook non-flashy sons of basketball guys.
Chris McCullough – PJones the th3rd.
Kevon Looney – Boris Diaw
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 7:50am #1010751
ZachAttackParticipantSo, there will be an MVP type player and an All-Star in this draft. And he’s not even in the lottery! Man! That’s quite a find the Celtics got there. And isn’t it kinda funny that he just happened to be drafted by your team? I kinda find it funny.
Point is: No way in heck will RJ Hunter ever be near the level that Steph is on, otherwise he would’ve been drafted a lot higher, like #1. If Hunter even had 1 all star appearance I’d be quite surprised let alone the 15 Steph will have. Don’t get your hopes too high on guys like Mickey, Rozier, and Hunter. You can’t possibly say that you don’t overrate the Celtics team. I mean Terry Rozier being John Wall, RJ Hunter being Steph Curry, and then Jordan Mickey, I’m sure you think he’ll be as good as Malone or something. If you had a team like that, I’d expect nothing less than a championship this year or next year.
But, I guarantee that it won’t happen. Anyways, it’s good to be optimistic, but it’s important to not get too high on your own players. Figure that out and I won’t bug you so much about the crap you post.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 7:50am #1010612
ZachAttackParticipantSo, there will be an MVP type player and an All-Star in this draft. And he’s not even in the lottery! Man! That’s quite a find the Celtics got there. And isn’t it kinda funny that he just happened to be drafted by your team? I kinda find it funny.
Point is: No way in heck will RJ Hunter ever be near the level that Steph is on, otherwise he would’ve been drafted a lot higher, like #1. If Hunter even had 1 all star appearance I’d be quite surprised let alone the 15 Steph will have. Don’t get your hopes too high on guys like Mickey, Rozier, and Hunter. You can’t possibly say that you don’t overrate the Celtics team. I mean Terry Rozier being John Wall, RJ Hunter being Steph Curry, and then Jordan Mickey, I’m sure you think he’ll be as good as Malone or something. If you had a team like that, I’d expect nothing less than a championship this year or next year.
But, I guarantee that it won’t happen. Anyways, it’s good to be optimistic, but it’s important to not get too high on your own players. Figure that out and I won’t bug you so much about the crap you post.
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 8:11am #1010753
T RexI compared Myles Turner to Hakeem, and Porzingis to KG, so don’t act like I’m singling out Celtics players.
I compared Rozier to 2013 John Wall, who was in no way an MVP level player.
RJ Hunter came out of college with a low release on his jumper. He’s improved that, to take better advantage of his elite length for a SG. And it turns out his ball handling and decision making were underrated. Probably because he didn’t do any fancy side-spin one handed passes like Russell.
I wasn’t super high on Hunter before the draft, but it’s often those sneaky good non-elite athletes that look bad in draft workouts that end up overperforming draft position. Like Draymond Green, Kris Middleton, etc. The other type of draft-overacheiver is the freak athlete types, like Rozier, Mickey, Harrell, and Oubre.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 8:11am #1010614
T RexI compared Myles Turner to Hakeem, and Porzingis to KG, so don’t act like I’m singling out Celtics players.
I compared Rozier to 2013 John Wall, who was in no way an MVP level player.
RJ Hunter came out of college with a low release on his jumper. He’s improved that, to take better advantage of his elite length for a SG. And it turns out his ball handling and decision making were underrated. Probably because he didn’t do any fancy side-spin one handed passes like Russell.
I wasn’t super high on Hunter before the draft, but it’s often those sneaky good non-elite athletes that look bad in draft workouts that end up overperforming draft position. Like Draymond Green, Kris Middleton, etc. The other type of draft-overacheiver is the freak athlete types, like Rozier, Mickey, Harrell, and Oubre.
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 8:31am #1010761
ZachAttackParticipantI think that you misunderstood what I was saying. I was talking about the RJ Hunter comparison to Steph. That was garbage.
Now… I understand that you are terribly rating other players in this draft and not just singling out Celtic players, I’m talking about your extremely ridiculously crazy Celtic Love in every single other forum that we’ve had here. That’s what I’m saying, the Celtics aren’t going to even get to the ECF I’m kinda doubting they’ll make it to the second round. So quit hyping up all these players that aren’t that great. You like to say that you’re whole Celtics roster will make at least one All-Star Appearance, while I doubt that only a very few of them will ever make it.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 8:31am #1010622
ZachAttackParticipantI think that you misunderstood what I was saying. I was talking about the RJ Hunter comparison to Steph. That was garbage.
Now… I understand that you are terribly rating other players in this draft and not just singling out Celtic players, I’m talking about your extremely ridiculously crazy Celtic Love in every single other forum that we’ve had here. That’s what I’m saying, the Celtics aren’t going to even get to the ECF I’m kinda doubting they’ll make it to the second round. So quit hyping up all these players that aren’t that great. You like to say that you’re whole Celtics roster will make at least one All-Star Appearance, while I doubt that only a very few of them will ever make it.
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 8:53am #1010767
T RexNow you’re just making sht up. I don’t even care about all star appearances, and rarely if ever use them as a marker of a player’s value.
Most casual or super-young fans like yourself think that All Star votes = good team. That’s why the Celtics 24-12 finish last year, and the improvements since then, means nothing to you. No all stars = bad team.
The Celtics literally outplayed every team in the east except for Cleveland after the All Star break, and yet you think it’s implausible that they can get to the second round or ECF.
As if there’s more than one team in the East that’s a lock to beat Boston in a 7 game series.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 8:53am #1010628
T RexNow you’re just making sht up. I don’t even care about all star appearances, and rarely if ever use them as a marker of a player’s value.
Most casual or super-young fans like yourself think that All Star votes = good team. That’s why the Celtics 24-12 finish last year, and the improvements since then, means nothing to you. No all stars = bad team.
The Celtics literally outplayed every team in the east except for Cleveland after the All Star break, and yet you think it’s implausible that they can get to the second round or ECF.
As if there’s more than one team in the East that’s a lock to beat Boston in a 7 game series.
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 9:02am #1010769
ZachAttackParticipantI think it’s stupid that you keep bringing up my age. You’re being just a little 6 year old girl when you say "Most casual or super-young fans like yourself think that All Star votes = good team." I actually don’t think that. I mean, you know that I’m a Jazz fan. I don’t think that the Jazz are terrible because they don’t have all star votes. I think that if they want to be championship contenders they have to have one. And if the Celtics are as good as you are saying that they are. They’d have at least one all star on that team. But, they won’t! K, accept the fact! Sometimes I wonder if you are 14 years old as well. Your ideas are just completely ridiculous. So go home, analyze the Celtics for real… REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE NO CHANCE OF BEING CONTENDERS ANY TIME SOON. And then realize that RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier, or Jordan Mickey aren’t going to be anything great, they will be average players. Then come back when you’re ready!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 9:02am #1010630
ZachAttackParticipantI think it’s stupid that you keep bringing up my age. You’re being just a little 6 year old girl when you say "Most casual or super-young fans like yourself think that All Star votes = good team." I actually don’t think that. I mean, you know that I’m a Jazz fan. I don’t think that the Jazz are terrible because they don’t have all star votes. I think that if they want to be championship contenders they have to have one. And if the Celtics are as good as you are saying that they are. They’d have at least one all star on that team. But, they won’t! K, accept the fact! Sometimes I wonder if you are 14 years old as well. Your ideas are just completely ridiculous. So go home, analyze the Celtics for real… REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE NO CHANCE OF BEING CONTENDERS ANY TIME SOON. And then realize that RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier, or Jordan Mickey aren’t going to be anything great, they will be average players. Then come back when you’re ready!
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 9:39am #1010775
T RexYour posts here are motivated primarily by the "+1". Anybody who writes anything outside the box is sure to get some snide little comment from you, which is designed to garner "+1"s.
Taking shots at any unconventional thinking is a sure way to "+1" credibility around here, and that’s all you’ve got. Which makes you fit in nicely.
Go ahead and continue your little approval seeking jabs, but expect to get called out for it when your jabs lack real substance.
If this post embarrasses you, console yourself with your high "+1" ratio, which covers up your weak analytical abilities and lack of original thoughts.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 9:39am #1010636
T RexYour posts here are motivated primarily by the "+1". Anybody who writes anything outside the box is sure to get some snide little comment from you, which is designed to garner "+1"s.
Taking shots at any unconventional thinking is a sure way to "+1" credibility around here, and that’s all you’ve got. Which makes you fit in nicely.
Go ahead and continue your little approval seeking jabs, but expect to get called out for it when your jabs lack real substance.
If this post embarrasses you, console yourself with your high "+1" ratio, which covers up your weak analytical abilities and lack of original thoughts.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/10/2015 - 11:18am #1030409
Gold ChainZach Attack changed his name!
busted.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/10/2015 - 11:18am #1030545
Gold ChainZach Attack changed his name!
busted.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 3:29pm #1010617
T RexDelon Wright – Jeremy Lin
Justin Anderson – Vince Carter. The older version that developed into a 3 point shooting specialist.
Bobby Portis – Chris Bosh. No doubt.
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson – Tony Allen
Tyus Jones – Tim Frazier
Jarrell Martin – Julius Randle
RJ Hunter – Steph Curry. Basketball fathers, milf white mothers, 89% FT shooting for both of them, the same magestic grace that makes every movement into poetry. The game is changing, folks, it’s not for guys who pick up the game after 5 years old. Just too far behind the curve.
How will Hunter’s success affect future drafts? Front offices will start looking for the 89-90% FT shooting in college, and will no longer overlook non-flashy sons of basketball guys.
Chris McCullough – PJones the th3rd.
Kevon Looney – Boris Diaw
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 5:12pm #1010492
whiteflashParticipantThis is easily the worst comparison list I’ve ever seen. The only one I can even halfway see is Dekker/Jeff Green. It almost seems like you intentionally made the most ridiculously bad comparisons you could just to get a reaction. That or you have absolutely no clue about basketball. The Muhammed joke was pretty good though.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 5:12pm #1010631
whiteflashParticipantThis is easily the worst comparison list I’ve ever seen. The only one I can even halfway see is Dekker/Jeff Green. It almost seems like you intentionally made the most ridiculously bad comparisons you could just to get a reaction. That or you have absolutely no clue about basketball. The Muhammed joke was pretty good though.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 5:21pm #1010496
Rip255I actually like how the guy puts his rep on the line and takes risks.
No one gets these types of lists right…and at least 4 lottery picks will bust.
Additionally, theres at least 2 All stars from picks 15-60.
His predictions are probably wrong…but those whos are more conservative are also going to be equally wrong.
0- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 6:16pm #1010504
T RexWe know for a fact that NBA stars emerge from all levels of the draft. Late first, second round, and undrafted can all produce stars, and usually do, every single year.
The certitude you see in draft circles is irrational. It’s basically guaranteed that some Norman Powell type is going to have a much better career than a d’russell or mudiay level top pick.
It’s virtually guaranteed to happen, and yet a vast majority derides the very idea of it happening.
These are the same poser who will tell you exactly how deep a draft is, in February if not earlier.
Perpetual Surprise Disorder
0- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 6:43pm #1010508
whiteflashParticipantNo one is arguing against certan late round guys turning out better than certain lottery guys. They’re arguing against your total lack of basketball knowledge and your cartoonishly bad player comparisons. David Lee and Frank Kaminsky? Hezonja and Reggie Miller? Trey Lyles and Lamar Odom? Booker and Muhammed? The only comparison that even halfway fits is Dekker/Green. Literally every other comparison you made is flat out absurd and makes people question if you’ve ever actually watched a basketball game.
0- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 11:18pm #1010532
T RexKaminsky is unique enough that no clear and obvious comparison matches him. Kelly Olynyk has 20-25 lbs on him, which means he can play at center a lot more than Kaminsky will be able to at 230 lbs.
So rather than attempt some literal comparison that doesn’t exist, I made a comparison based on expected role and impact in the NBA. Hence David Lee.
Same with Hezonja. His cockiness is what sets him apart, and while Reggie Miller might have been a lot skinnier, smart readers will get the idea of what kind of career and role I expect Hezonja to have.
When Booker starts growing peach fuzz and armpit hair, he’s going to start gaining weight. And yet most here seem to think he’ll stay at 206-210 lbs for his whole career. Compare him to a guy 10-15 lbs heavier and their brains freeze up.
Very little substance and specifics to these critiques of my generous philanthropic contribution to the board.
Sometimes a draft is just awesome, even if a top prospect like Russell sucks.
I’m sure there’s a lot of shame out there at having missed on guys like Myles Turner and Rozier. You guys were too busy slotting Justise Winslow in your "guaranteed" top 5 to consider that there were other, better, obviously better prospects.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 11:18pm #1010671
T RexKaminsky is unique enough that no clear and obvious comparison matches him. Kelly Olynyk has 20-25 lbs on him, which means he can play at center a lot more than Kaminsky will be able to at 230 lbs.
So rather than attempt some literal comparison that doesn’t exist, I made a comparison based on expected role and impact in the NBA. Hence David Lee.
Same with Hezonja. His cockiness is what sets him apart, and while Reggie Miller might have been a lot skinnier, smart readers will get the idea of what kind of career and role I expect Hezonja to have.
When Booker starts growing peach fuzz and armpit hair, he’s going to start gaining weight. And yet most here seem to think he’ll stay at 206-210 lbs for his whole career. Compare him to a guy 10-15 lbs heavier and their brains freeze up.
Very little substance and specifics to these critiques of my generous philanthropic contribution to the board.
Sometimes a draft is just awesome, even if a top prospect like Russell sucks.
I’m sure there’s a lot of shame out there at having missed on guys like Myles Turner and Rozier. You guys were too busy slotting Justise Winslow in your "guaranteed" top 5 to consider that there were other, better, obviously better prospects.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 6:43pm #1010647
whiteflashParticipantNo one is arguing against certan late round guys turning out better than certain lottery guys. They’re arguing against your total lack of basketball knowledge and your cartoonishly bad player comparisons. David Lee and Frank Kaminsky? Hezonja and Reggie Miller? Trey Lyles and Lamar Odom? Booker and Muhammed? The only comparison that even halfway fits is Dekker/Green. Literally every other comparison you made is flat out absurd and makes people question if you’ve ever actually watched a basketball game.
0
- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 6:16pm #1010643
T RexWe know for a fact that NBA stars emerge from all levels of the draft. Late first, second round, and undrafted can all produce stars, and usually do, every single year.
The certitude you see in draft circles is irrational. It’s basically guaranteed that some Norman Powell type is going to have a much better career than a d’russell or mudiay level top pick.
It’s virtually guaranteed to happen, and yet a vast majority derides the very idea of it happening.
These are the same poser who will tell you exactly how deep a draft is, in February if not earlier.
Perpetual Surprise Disorder
0
- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 5:21pm #1010635
Rip255I actually like how the guy puts his rep on the line and takes risks.
No one gets these types of lists right…and at least 4 lottery picks will bust.
Additionally, theres at least 2 All stars from picks 15-60.
His predictions are probably wrong…but those whos are more conservative are also going to be equally wrong.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 7:21pm #1010512
Rip255I reckon theres 4 or 5 guys on here that get the lions share of negs. And in each case, theyre usually pretty knowledgable cats and the reason they get negged is because they’re either bucking popular opinion, or saying things in a way that people dont like.
But they also get the most replies and stimulate discussion by playing the devils advocate. If Dangelo Russell does bust…youre all going to neg him again when he says he proved u wrong.
If hes an All Star…you can say the same to him. Bookmark the thread and see who comes out on top around All Star Weekend.
If all the neggers wanna prove him wrong so bad…go back and find some old peedictions where he was wrong…or take a risk and pick your own busts and watch your own point total plummet.
No one can say Euro Baller and Trex etc dont watch basketball.
And those who relentlessly give negs….I love it. You’re only providing encouragement.
0- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 9:28pm #1010524
sitlbitoParticipantHey RIP255 you’re trying wayyyy too hard nowto be friends with T Rex. Like a nice little kid who for some reason wants to be friends with the local douche and act tough .
"If all the neggers wanna prove him wrong so bad…go back and find some old peedictions where he was wrong…or take a risk and pick your own busts and watch your own point total plummet." That’s not really why I’m here. This forum is meant to be a place with honest,thoughtful discussion about basketball,not a kids competition "no I AM RIGHT,No you ARE WRONG SHOW ME WHAT YA GOT!". I don’t care about that. There’s Instagram for attention whores like you.
Oh and about the "euro baller and t rex watch basketball" yes just like everyone on this site. The difference is those two don’t understand it. And yes I don’t have the energy and will to argue with that kind of stupidity.
0- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 10:37pm #1010530
Rip255What else can I say..the dude cracks me up. His talents are wasted here.
Thing is I cant even remember anything youve ever said…I had to look at your bio to make sure that diss post wasnt your first. That gives you an indication of the interest level I have in your comments.
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 2:00am #1010689
sitlbitoParticipantSo what? I’m posting here not in order to make friends,to make ennemies,or whatever. I’m not in a popularity contest, I don’t want people to remember me or what I’ve said. I’m not here to make SITLBITO a known character. Just answered your post saying that you and T rex are the best forumers or something like that, I’m here to try and learn something about basketball in case some dudes on here know something I don’t. You’re not one of these persons. And you have so much interest in my comment that you just answered.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 2:00am #1010550
sitlbitoParticipantSo what? I’m posting here not in order to make friends,to make ennemies,or whatever. I’m not in a popularity contest, I don’t want people to remember me or what I’ve said. I’m not here to make SITLBITO a known character. Just answered your post saying that you and T rex are the best forumers or something like that, I’m here to try and learn something about basketball in case some dudes on here know something I don’t. You’re not one of these persons. And you have so much interest in my comment that you just answered.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 10:37pm #1010669
Rip255What else can I say..the dude cracks me up. His talents are wasted here.
Thing is I cant even remember anything youve ever said…I had to look at your bio to make sure that diss post wasnt your first. That gives you an indication of the interest level I have in your comments.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 9:28pm #1010663
sitlbitoParticipantHey RIP255 you’re trying wayyyy too hard nowto be friends with T Rex. Like a nice little kid who for some reason wants to be friends with the local douche and act tough .
"If all the neggers wanna prove him wrong so bad…go back and find some old peedictions where he was wrong…or take a risk and pick your own busts and watch your own point total plummet." That’s not really why I’m here. This forum is meant to be a place with honest,thoughtful discussion about basketball,not a kids competition "no I AM RIGHT,No you ARE WRONG SHOW ME WHAT YA GOT!". I don’t care about that. There’s Instagram for attention whores like you.
Oh and about the "euro baller and t rex watch basketball" yes just like everyone on this site. The difference is those two don’t understand it. And yes I don’t have the energy and will to argue with that kind of stupidity.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 7:21pm #1010651
Rip255I reckon theres 4 or 5 guys on here that get the lions share of negs. And in each case, theyre usually pretty knowledgable cats and the reason they get negged is because they’re either bucking popular opinion, or saying things in a way that people dont like.
But they also get the most replies and stimulate discussion by playing the devils advocate. If Dangelo Russell does bust…youre all going to neg him again when he says he proved u wrong.
If hes an All Star…you can say the same to him. Bookmark the thread and see who comes out on top around All Star Weekend.
If all the neggers wanna prove him wrong so bad…go back and find some old peedictions where he was wrong…or take a risk and pick your own busts and watch your own point total plummet.
No one can say Euro Baller and Trex etc dont watch basketball.
And those who relentlessly give negs….I love it. You’re only providing encouragement.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 2:45am #1010695
Rip255Cmon dude this is a basketball forum. Youve hijacked the thread and made it about you and me. No one cares about your beef. I read the first few sentences and lost interest…just focus on the basketball.
Apologies for everyone who had to read that rubbish in an otherwise solid thread.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/01/2015 - 2:45am #1010556
Rip255Cmon dude this is a basketball forum. Youve hijacked the thread and made it about you and me. No one cares about your beef. I read the first few sentences and lost interest…just focus on the basketball.
Apologies for everyone who had to read that rubbish in an otherwise solid thread.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/10/2015 - 11:18am #1030412
Gold ChainI’m that star up in the sky
I’m that mountain peak up high
Hey I made it, hmm
I’m the worlds greatest
I’m that little bit of hope
When my back’s against the ropes
I can feel it, hmm
I’m the worlds greatest0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/10/2015 - 11:18am #1030547
Gold ChainI’m that star up in the sky
I’m that mountain peak up high
Hey I made it, hmm
I’m the worlds greatest
I’m that little bit of hope
When my back’s against the ropes
I can feel it, hmm
I’m the worlds greatest0 - AuthorPosts
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