2015 Draft…..

 Here’s mine – & it’s still so early I hate even trying to do this b/c these guys play on such bad teams it’s really difficult to extrapolate what they will become & how they will fit on contending NBA teams……

I’ll think it terms of #1 option #2 option #3 Option on a contending team……. & projecting what they’ll be in the future…..

Even though the 2015 team was crazy deep w/ talent….. I just don;t see any of the players drafted as #1 option on a title winning or contending team….. That’s not an insult….

I Luv all the Bigs drafted at the top….. Porzingus, Towns & Okafor are all absolute studs & they are all very different from each other….. Porzingus more on the perimeter, Towns more mid range & Okafor down low…..

Towns is a do it all stud…. rebound, block shots, great mid range game….. his only weakness is posting up on the low block & running an Offense thru that kind of set….

Porzingus 3 pt range makes him so unique, excellent rebounder, will get off ball def blocks b/c of length, weakness is that he is also weak down low….. But he’s got such a sweet game & just like Towns & Okafor you just can Not put a price on a guy who can score pretty much whenever he needs to….

 In a few years when Okafor gets the "And 1’s" he’s not getting now he’s just unstoppable down low…..  Weakness, he lacks focus & concentration for stretches & this affects his rebounding & Defense…..

All 3 of these guys are incredibly unique & can All get buckets under pressure & That is what it’s all about in the playoffs…..

Next Level below those Three: these are players who might not be perennial All Star level like the first 3 but will be solid to explosive Pro’s…. (no particular order) Stanley Johnson, Myles Turner, Emmanuel Mudiay, Mario Hezonja, Devin Booker……

The rest we’ll have to wait & see….. There are some guys I really like that haven’t really had a chance yet…. so we’ll see what happens…… Very, Very deep draft…… But I don’t want to project to far into the Future……

Great topic….. Great Post……

 Here’s mine – & it’s still so early I hate even trying to do this b/c these guys play on such bad teams it’s really difficult to extrapolate what they will become & how they will fit on contending NBA teams……

I’ll think it terms of #1 option #2 option #3 Option on a contending team……. & projecting what they’ll be in the future…..

Even though the 2015 team was crazy deep w/ talent….. I just don;t see any of the players drafted as #1 option on a title winning or contending team….. That’s not an insult….

I Luv all the Bigs drafted at the top….. Porzingus, Towns & Okafor are all absolute studs & they are all very different from each other….. Porzingus more on the perimeter, Towns more mid range & Okafor down low…..

Towns is a do it all stud…. rebound, block shots, great mid range game….. his only weakness is posting up on the low block & running an Offense thru that kind of set….

Porzingus 3 pt range makes him so unique, excellent rebounder, will get off ball def blocks b/c of length, weakness is that he is also weak down low….. But he’s got such a sweet game & just like Towns & Okafor you just can Not put a price on a guy who can score pretty much whenever he needs to….

 In a few years when Okafor gets the "And 1’s" he’s not getting now he’s just unstoppable down low…..  Weakness, he lacks focus & concentration for stretches & this affects his rebounding & Defense…..

All 3 of these guys are incredibly unique & can All get buckets under pressure & That is what it’s all about in the playoffs…..

Next Level below those Three: these are players who might not be perennial All Star level like the first 3 but will be solid to explosive Pro’s…. (no particular order) Stanley Johnson, Myles Turner, Emmanuel Mudiay, Mario Hezonja, Devin Booker……

The rest we’ll have to wait & see….. There are some guys I really like that haven’t really had a chance yet…. so we’ll see what happens…… Very, Very deep draft…… But I don’t want to project to far into the Future……

Great topic….. Great Post……

I don’t have time to go into great detail with every person selected. I agree with the post about the grades for the players. I believe in 2-5 years the 2015 draft will be one of the best I’ve ever seen. Already 3-4 legit studs with several more that could grow into all stars. Once the game slows down for Russel and Mudiay they have a chance to be top 10 or maybe top 5 at there position and their in the 2nd or 3rd tier. This draft produced/is producing 3-4 great bigs, 3-4 solid SF’s and guards as well. I’m glad my team got a top pick in the 2015 draft. We’ll look back at the 2015 draft and consider it a great one.  

I don’t have time to go into great detail with every person selected. I agree with the post about the grades for the players. I believe in 2-5 years the 2015 draft will be one of the best I’ve ever seen. Already 3-4 legit studs with several more that could grow into all stars. Once the game slows down for Russel and Mudiay they have a chance to be top 10 or maybe top 5 at there position and their in the 2nd or 3rd tier. This draft produced/is producing 3-4 great bigs, 3-4 solid SF’s and guards as well. I’m glad my team got a top pick in the 2015 draft. We’ll look back at the 2015 draft and consider it a great one.  

 Bigs Towns, Okafor, Turner and Porzingis all look like future studs.

Russell and Mudiay are doing pretty much something what they were supposed to do, but if I have to pick fourth potential perrenial allstart it would be Stanley Johnson.

This guy is huge, still only 19 one of the yougest rookies and already around 245 but still athletic quick, nivce both offense and defense potential.

 Bigs Towns, Okafor, Turner and Porzingis all look like future studs.

Russell and Mudiay are doing pretty much something what they were supposed to do, but if I have to pick fourth potential perrenial allstart it would be Stanley Johnson.

This guy is huge, still only 19 one of the yougest rookies and already around 245 but still athletic quick, nivce both offense and defense potential.

 This draft could be the best ‘big man’ draft in history.

 This draft could be the best ‘big man’ draft in history.

Rooting for my man RHJ…

10 rebs per 36(that’s noel’s numbers) best rebounding guard in the league as a rookie, he was even better as a starter.

4th stealer per 48(behind rubio, Smart, Westbrook, tied with Tony Allen…his role model).

5th shot blocker per 48(behind roberson, green, klay, lamb).

Great motor, big time hustler, great defender, versatile defender, if he gives you 10-12 pts, 3 assists…that’s 3 time better than all your starters, he’s a nets, they’re losers, but he plays winning basketball.

Rooting for my man RHJ…

10 rebs per 36(that’s noel’s numbers) best rebounding guard in the league as a rookie, he was even better as a starter.

4th stealer per 48(behind rubio, Smart, Westbrook, tied with Tony Allen…his role model).

5th shot blocker per 48(behind roberson, green, klay, lamb).

Great motor, big time hustler, great defender, versatile defender, if he gives you 10-12 pts, 3 assists…that’s 3 time better than all your starters, he’s a nets, they’re losers, but he plays winning basketball.

1. Towns – franchise. top 10 player

2. perennial all stars – Zinga

3. All Stars. I think Russell will play in 3-5 All Star games. Booker I think could be 20ppg and borderline all-star (he might make a couple of all-star games) Same with Okafor.

4 Good starters (long term) Bobby Portis. Every draft there is a couple of players who have injury problems, I will put Myles Turner in that category. Stan Johnson (a lot can be contributed to team, coach and system) Winslow – ariza type stats. I still like Rashad Vaughn, I think he will have a good career. Also Hezonja will still be good. We forget he was on the radar and ranked higher than Porzingas for a long time till maybe 2-3 months before the NBA draft. Mudiay. WCS borderline between 4 and 5. As is Jerian Grant.

5 below average starters / borderline starter (not long term or with contending teams). Kaminsky.

6 Role players – should play 7+ seasons in the pros. Lyles, Justin Anderson, Wright, Tyus Jones, Harrell, RHJ, Anthony Brown, Josh Richardson, Joeseph Young, Rozier, Norman Powell, Oubre. I quite liked Jarrell Martin and Jordan Mickey, I hope they can be in the category….

A few players I left off the list I have not seen play enough, so no comment or category: Hunter, Nance, Payne, Looney etc

1. Towns – franchise. top 10 player

2. perennial all stars – Zinga

3. All Stars. I think Russell will play in 3-5 All Star games. Booker I think could be 20ppg and borderline all-star (he might make a couple of all-star games) Same with Okafor.

4 Good starters (long term) Bobby Portis. Every draft there is a couple of players who have injury problems, I will put Myles Turner in that category. Stan Johnson (a lot can be contributed to team, coach and system) Winslow – ariza type stats. I still like Rashad Vaughn, I think he will have a good career. Also Hezonja will still be good. We forget he was on the radar and ranked higher than Porzingas for a long time till maybe 2-3 months before the NBA draft. Mudiay. WCS borderline between 4 and 5. As is Jerian Grant.

5 below average starters / borderline starter (not long term or with contending teams). Kaminsky.

6 Role players – should play 7+ seasons in the pros. Lyles, Justin Anderson, Wright, Tyus Jones, Harrell, RHJ, Anthony Brown, Josh Richardson, Joeseph Young, Rozier, Norman Powell, Oubre. I quite liked Jarrell Martin and Jordan Mickey, I hope they can be in the category….

A few players I left off the list I have not seen play enough, so no comment or category: Hunter, Nance, Payne, Looney etc

 I think hezonja has more chance of becoming an all star than Mudiay does. Mudiay has been quite good this year but I don’t think he has as much upside as hezonja. Although not the same type of player, his season reminds me a lot of how MCW rookie season went… As far as he had the team handed to him straight up, did a nice job but doesn’t appear to be a starting point guard for a contender anytime soon

 I think hezonja has more chance of becoming an all star than Mudiay does. Mudiay has been quite good this year but I don’t think he has as much upside as hezonja. Although not the same type of player, his season reminds me a lot of how MCW rookie season went… As far as he had the team handed to him straight up, did a nice job but doesn’t appear to be a starting point guard for a contender anytime soon

Perennial allstar ifff.. the Nuggets surround him with a vet that can teach him the next level of the game and get some players.  But he has the tools even more so than Russell. His J is iffy but not totally broken, hell if MKG can get his shot fixed  its hope for anybody. I like Mudiay’s "go get it ness" in the mold of Russell Westbrook. He does not backdown from a challege , watched him against most of the top guards these season and he goes right at them. 

One of my favorties is Bobby Portis directly out of the mold of Joahkim Noah but with better offense. Bobby has a motor, defensive presence and a mean streak that if Joahkim was an all-star i see a few in Bobby’s furture.

Perennial allstar ifff.. the Nuggets surround him with a vet that can teach him the next level of the game and get some players.  But he has the tools even more so than Russell. His J is iffy but not totally broken, hell if MKG can get his shot fixed  its hope for anybody. I like Mudiay’s "go get it ness" in the mold of Russell Westbrook. He does not backdown from a challege , watched him against most of the top guards these season and he goes right at them. 

One of my favorties is Bobby Portis directly out of the mold of Joahkim Noah but with better offense. Bobby has a motor, defensive presence and a mean streak that if Joahkim was an all-star i see a few in Bobby’s furture.

 good list, i think RHJ is just as good as stanley johnson tho, he is more than just a role player IMO

 good list, i think RHJ is just as good as stanley johnson tho, he is more than just a role player IMO

Not sure how original poster got +12 for saying he thought there would be 9 all-stars from the 2015 draft class. Jokic was 2014.

I cannot remember a class where there were 6 or 7 all-stars, let alone 9 !!

This must either be the best draft class ever or that there a lot of kids on here with their heads in the clouds…..

Not sure how original poster got +12 for saying he thought there would be 9 all-stars from the 2015 draft class. Jokic was 2014.

I cannot remember a class where there were 6 or 7 all-stars, let alone 9 !!

This must either be the best draft class ever or that there a lot of kids on here with their heads in the clouds…..

I cannot remember a class where there were 6 or 7 all-stars, let alone 9 !!

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Haha, yeah I thought he was overestimating this class a bit.

Most draft classes have about 5 All-Stars although some classes with 7 or 8 All-Stars weren’t really that great, just produced alot of guys who made a game or two. For example the legendary 1984 draft produced 7 All-Stars who combined for a whopping 53 All-Star games. While the 1991 draft also had 7 All-Stars but combined for just 16 All-Star appearances (half of them by Dikembe alone). And the 1993 draft had 7 All-Stars but just 18 appearances. 

I know 1996 had ten All-Stars (a third of the first round), and I just looked up 2003 and it had 9. So yeah it doesn’t happen often. 

I cannot remember a class where there were 6 or 7 all-stars, let alone 9 !!

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Haha, yeah I thought he was overestimating this class a bit.

Most draft classes have about 5 All-Stars although some classes with 7 or 8 All-Stars weren’t really that great, just produced alot of guys who made a game or two. For example the legendary 1984 draft produced 7 All-Stars who combined for a whopping 53 All-Star games. While the 1991 draft also had 7 All-Stars but combined for just 16 All-Star appearances (half of them by Dikembe alone). And the 1993 draft had 7 All-Stars but just 18 appearances. 

I know 1996 had ten All-Stars (a third of the first round), and I just looked up 2003 and it had 9. So yeah it doesn’t happen often. 

Hezonja career high 21 points today.

Russell scored 39 the other day…..

Hezonja career high 21 points today.

Russell scored 39 the other day…..