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- Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:56am #61174

Miko4rm206ParticipantThis year was mostly known for Blake Griffin and Depth at the PG Position initially. Now looking back the class produced 3 bonafied Superstars in Steph,Harden and Griffin. Allstars in Derozen, Teague and Holiday as well as solid role players and starters Demarre Carroll, Wayne ellington and Brandon Jennings. Dont get me wrong the draft did have its duds (Thabeet and Flynn) but all in all a good draft.
If we re-did the top 5 picks of the draft knowing what we know now. who would be top 5 drafted as well as who is the top 10 players in this draft period.
1.Clippers
2.Grizzles
3.Thunder
4.Kings
5.Wolves
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 12:15pm #1006704
Bencelticsfan2346Participant1. Blake Griffin You can’t go wrong with him
2. Steph Curry is BPA, but would take more of a 2 guard role with conley at the 1.
3. James Harden just so happens to be the best available player and if this was real the Thunder wouldn’t trade him a second time.
4. Jeff Teague the Kings still need a permanent solution at point guard and Teague would have been a solid pick
5. Demar Derozean is just really good and his athleticism provides great entertainment and highlights which helps create buzz for a small market team like minnesota.
the rest of the top ten rounds out like this
6. Tyreke Evans
7. Ricky Rubio(the wolves still get him, imagine that)
8. Jrue Holiday
9. Demarre Carroll
10. Jeff Teague
players like Jonas Jerebko, Taj Gibson, Dejaun Blair(The Man With No ACLs, TMA), Pat Beverley, Danny Green, Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, Darren Collison, and Patty Mills can all expect to be drafted higher than they originally were
0- Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 3:47am #1006955
bumbleb33Participantwhat the heck taj gibson was in the 2009 draft? isnt this guy like 30 lmfao
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 3:47am #1006816
bumbleb33Participantwhat the heck taj gibson was in the 2009 draft? isnt this guy like 30 lmfao
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 6:44am #1006973

theEDGEParticipantJeff Teague at 4 and 10?
Either Ty Lawson or Brandon Jennings should get a chance in the top 10.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 6:44am #1006834

theEDGEParticipantJeff Teague at 4 and 10?
Either Ty Lawson or Brandon Jennings should get a chance in the top 10.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 12:15pm #1006843
Bencelticsfan2346Participant1. Blake Griffin You can’t go wrong with him
2. Steph Curry is BPA, but would take more of a 2 guard role with conley at the 1.
3. James Harden just so happens to be the best available player and if this was real the Thunder wouldn’t trade him a second time.
4. Jeff Teague the Kings still need a permanent solution at point guard and Teague would have been a solid pick
5. Demar Derozean is just really good and his athleticism provides great entertainment and highlights which helps create buzz for a small market team like minnesota.
the rest of the top ten rounds out like this
6. Tyreke Evans
7. Ricky Rubio(the wolves still get him, imagine that)
8. Jrue Holiday
9. Demarre Carroll
10. Jeff Teague
players like Jonas Jerebko, Taj Gibson, Dejaun Blair(The Man With No ACLs, TMA), Pat Beverley, Danny Green, Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, Darren Collison, and Patty Mills can all expect to be drafted higher than they originally were
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 1:28pm #1006857

Miko4rm206Participant1.clippers- Blake griffin
2. Grizzles- James Harden you can go steph but having a all lefty backcourt of conley and harden along with mrc gasol and z-bo in the paint i think would be A.1
3. thunder- Steph Curry can you imagine a lineup of Rusell westbrook and Steph alternanting at PG and off guard with KD and Ibaka?
4. Kings- Kings would have a choice between 2 allstar/border all star PG. Of course Jeff Teague would be the best pick but Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday and even Demarr Derozan would have canceled out the need to trade for rudy gay and draft ben mclemore and nick stauskas in years to come. But a Tandem Of Teague and Cousins would be solid and to much to pass up on.
5.) Timberwolves had the 5th and 6th pick in the 09 draft and drafted 2 PGs. I would have to say rubio is not abad pick at 5. They would have to entertain Jrue, Ty Lawson maybe even Tyreke and Jennings but Rubio is a solid pick tho.
THE BPA on the board I think goes like this
6. Tyreke Evans
7.Jrue Holiday
8.Ty Lawson
9. Brandon Jennings
10.Taj Gibson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 1:28pm #1006718

Miko4rm206Participant1.clippers- Blake griffin
2. Grizzles- James Harden you can go steph but having a all lefty backcourt of conley and harden along with mrc gasol and z-bo in the paint i think would be A.1
3. thunder- Steph Curry can you imagine a lineup of Rusell westbrook and Steph alternanting at PG and off guard with KD and Ibaka?
4. Kings- Kings would have a choice between 2 allstar/border all star PG. Of course Jeff Teague would be the best pick but Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday and even Demarr Derozan would have canceled out the need to trade for rudy gay and draft ben mclemore and nick stauskas in years to come. But a Tandem Of Teague and Cousins would be solid and to much to pass up on.
5.) Timberwolves had the 5th and 6th pick in the 09 draft and drafted 2 PGs. I would have to say rubio is not abad pick at 5. They would have to entertain Jrue, Ty Lawson maybe even Tyreke and Jennings but Rubio is a solid pick tho.
THE BPA on the board I think goes like this
6. Tyreke Evans
7.Jrue Holiday
8.Ty Lawson
9. Brandon Jennings
10.Taj Gibson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 1:31pm #1006859

OaktownWarriorsParticipantYou can go wrong with picking Blake. I would pick Curry or Harden over Blake right now. Curry and Harden as played for Team USAand have taken their teams past the second. And both are looking to have maybe even a bigger season ahead. Blake is a good offensive player, but not really a good team player or thqt great on playing D. Blake can fill up a stat sheet, but not much of a leader. And I don’t dis-like Blake, I just would rather have Curry or Harden right now.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 1:31pm #1006720

OaktownWarriorsParticipantYou can go wrong with picking Blake. I would pick Curry or Harden over Blake right now. Curry and Harden as played for Team USAand have taken their teams past the second. And both are looking to have maybe even a bigger season ahead. Blake is a good offensive player, but not really a good team player or thqt great on playing D. Blake can fill up a stat sheet, but not much of a leader. And I don’t dis-like Blake, I just would rather have Curry or Harden right now.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 3:06pm #1006871

trombonematrix43ParticipantWould anybody make a case for taking Curry or Harden over Blake? I’m not knocking Blake but I’m just curious to hear some thoughts on that camp.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 3:06pm #1006732

trombonematrix43ParticipantWould anybody make a case for taking Curry or Harden over Blake? I’m not knocking Blake but I’m just curious to hear some thoughts on that camp.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 3:19pm #1006877
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantI really believe if that draft were held knowing what we now know, curry would have gone first. He is a truly unique player and just stretches a defense more than anyone in history. His presence on the floor just creates so many opportunities that wouldn’t otherwise be there, even if he’s not even directly making the play that leads to the shot. Griffin and harden are both great players and superstars in their own right, any you really couldn’t go wrong with any of them. However, if its up to me I’m going with curry first.
Since Memphis has oj mayo, who actually just came off a very impressive rookie year at the time, they probably go with griffin second. This also means z-bo probably never goes to Memphis. That means okc gets harden again.
I think teague goes fourth to Sacramento and Lawson goes fifth to Minnesota since they were intent on drafting a pg. The rest of the top 10 would play out like this imo:
6. Minnesota-derozan
7. Golden state- holiday
8. NY-tyreke Evans
9. Brandon Jennings
10. Taj gibson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 3:19pm #1006738
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantI really believe if that draft were held knowing what we now know, curry would have gone first. He is a truly unique player and just stretches a defense more than anyone in history. His presence on the floor just creates so many opportunities that wouldn’t otherwise be there, even if he’s not even directly making the play that leads to the shot. Griffin and harden are both great players and superstars in their own right, any you really couldn’t go wrong with any of them. However, if its up to me I’m going with curry first.
Since Memphis has oj mayo, who actually just came off a very impressive rookie year at the time, they probably go with griffin second. This also means z-bo probably never goes to Memphis. That means okc gets harden again.
I think teague goes fourth to Sacramento and Lawson goes fifth to Minnesota since they were intent on drafting a pg. The rest of the top 10 would play out like this imo:
6. Minnesota-derozan
7. Golden state- holiday
8. NY-tyreke Evans
9. Brandon Jennings
10. Taj gibson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 4:25pm #1006879

dmo21ParticipantI’m bored. So I’ll do a top 20. Based on BPA as well as somewhat of a team fit. So here we go.
Clippers: Griffin, gotta go with the big man.
Memphis: Curry, Can’t really pass up on Curry (even for Harden). Finally gives them shooting though.
OKC: Harden, rounds out the top tier of talent. Gotta take him, again.
Sacramento: Teague, best point guard available. Good defense/offense combo.
Minnesota: Lawson and DeRozan, backcourt of the future right here.
Golden State: Evans, him and Ellis would be a crazy combo.
New York: Rubio, this was supposed to be the perfect fit. Where he wanted to go.
Toronto: Holiday, best talent available. Has the size to play the 2 as well.
Milwaukee: Jennings, last of the tier 2 talent. Good fit as well.
New Jersey: Green, shooter and defender for the team.
Charlotte: Gibson, big man to play beside Okafor.
Indiana: Carroll, not a great fit but could be the potential replacement for Granger. Good guy for off the bench.
Phoenix: Hill, big man off the bench that can run with the team. Be trained to be the next Amare.
Detroit: Collison, point guard for the future? Could play some 2?
Chicago: Henderson, wing that could start for the team.
Philadelphia: Beverly, point guard for the future. Not a bad pickup.
Minnesota: Meeks, might as well add a shooter.
Atlanta: Budinger, a wing player that can shoot. Tough picking here.
Utah: Casspi, just a wing player..
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 4:25pm #1006740

dmo21ParticipantI’m bored. So I’ll do a top 20. Based on BPA as well as somewhat of a team fit. So here we go.
Clippers: Griffin, gotta go with the big man.
Memphis: Curry, Can’t really pass up on Curry (even for Harden). Finally gives them shooting though.
OKC: Harden, rounds out the top tier of talent. Gotta take him, again.
Sacramento: Teague, best point guard available. Good defense/offense combo.
Minnesota: Lawson and DeRozan, backcourt of the future right here.
Golden State: Evans, him and Ellis would be a crazy combo.
New York: Rubio, this was supposed to be the perfect fit. Where he wanted to go.
Toronto: Holiday, best talent available. Has the size to play the 2 as well.
Milwaukee: Jennings, last of the tier 2 talent. Good fit as well.
New Jersey: Green, shooter and defender for the team.
Charlotte: Gibson, big man to play beside Okafor.
Indiana: Carroll, not a great fit but could be the potential replacement for Granger. Good guy for off the bench.
Phoenix: Hill, big man off the bench that can run with the team. Be trained to be the next Amare.
Detroit: Collison, point guard for the future? Could play some 2?
Chicago: Henderson, wing that could start for the team.
Philadelphia: Beverly, point guard for the future. Not a bad pickup.
Minnesota: Meeks, might as well add a shooter.
Atlanta: Budinger, a wing player that can shoot. Tough picking here.
Utah: Casspi, just a wing player..
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 5:54pm #1006891

OneBigBucketHeadParticipantCurry has won a title and an MVP!!! Two things Griffin hasn’t done. You have to take the best player available and that’s what an MVP is, especially if he has a ring on his finger that year. Griffin is pretty darn good but you have to make it work with Curry and Paul. Or, honestly say goodbye to Paul.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 5:54pm #1006752

OneBigBucketHeadParticipantCurry has won a title and an MVP!!! Two things Griffin hasn’t done. You have to take the best player available and that’s what an MVP is, especially if he has a ring on his finger that year. Griffin is pretty darn good but you have to make it work with Curry and Paul. Or, honestly say goodbye to Paul.
0- Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 10:15am #1006852
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantIf they draft curry they probably never trade for Paul.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 10:15am #1006990
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantIf they draft curry they probably never trade for Paul.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:04pm #1006917

Flameres15ParticipantThis is based on team fit then, and knowledge about the players development.
Clippers: Stephen Curry. Looking at the 2008-2009 roster, the Clippers had Zach Randolph, Chris Kaman, and DeAndre Jordan. Kaman and Randolph were 26 and 27, so they were in their prime. Jordan was only 20 at the time, and he would be a perfect defensive player alongside Randolph and Kaman. Eric Gordon was also an amazing player at the time and the Curry-Gordon combo is too much to resist.
Memphis: Blake Griffin. The biggest hole in the roster at the time was at PF. They signed Zach Randolph away from the Clippers, but Griffin is the superior option. O.J. Mayo and Rudy Gay had effective seasons to allow the Grizzlies to pass on James Harden.
Thunder: James Harden. The Thunder were right to draft Harden, and they should have never let him go. Obviously we saw what he could do on the bench for the Thunder, what if he had developed as a starter instead. The three-headed spear of Westbrook-Harden-Durant is the best in the NBA. Each player can rotate 2-3 positions giving them a more versatile style of play. (I am not forgetting about Serge Ibaka, but I think he doesn’t get his extension and signs somewhere else later on)
Kings: Forfeit their pick. One can hope, right? Anyone the Kings touch instantly have a terrible career. Just look at it. Tyreke Evans, Jimmer Fredette, Hassan Whiteside (until last year), Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, and Nik Stauskas, and technically Bismack Biyombo. Obviously they did draft DeMarcus Cousins, but even he has an attitude problem.
Other than that they should draft the best player available in DeMar Derozen. He is quick, athletic, and they could have Kevin Martin slide to the 3 for a bit.
Timberwolves: Wesley Matthews. It doesn’t matter how the order of the players picked goes, but it looks better if the Timberwolves draft Matthews at 5, and then the point guard. With the undrafted Matthews going fifth, Minnesota gets a very underrated scorer, defender, and 3-point shooter. I think the 3-point barrage between Kevin Love and Matthews would help push the Timberwolves deep into playoff contention (a few years later, before Love leaves the team).
Timberwolves: Ricky Rubio. Rubio is a difficult player to read. He is inconsistent, but when his game is going he is arguably the best passer in the league. He is definitely the most creative passer, and best player with the ball in his hands. His defense is amazing, as well. His ability to strip a player with the ball is matched by only Chris Paul. With Rubio it is you love him or you hate him, but I think he is a great fit for the lineup I imagine.
Warriors: Ty Lawson. This was another difficult choice. The 2008-09 Warriors are far from the championship team that beat the Cavs this last year. In fact they were one of the worst teams in the league. They were fast paced, high scoring, but terrible defensive team. Lawson is one of the better players at finding their teammate at the right moment. While he does have off-court issues, he would complement the Warriors of the time.
Knicks: Jeff Teague. This came down to Teague-Holliday-Jennings. Teague wins out because this is the pre-Melo Knicks, and Teague provides more stability to the team. While Teague may not score 55 points in a game like Jennings did, he gets his teammates involved.
Raptors: Danny Green. This is a boring pick, but a smart one. Danny Green has filled his niche with the Spurs, but I am dying to see what he could do on his own. He may or may not be a talented scorer, we don’t know. What we do know, is that Green shoots the three well, and a lot, and that he plays great defense.
Bucks: Jrue Holiday. It was either Jennings or Holiday, and since Jennings didn’t work out in the real world, I thought they would try the other route. Holiday is a good player, but he has struggled with injuries and inconsistency. I would have liked to have seen the Bogut-Holiday combo in action.
Nets: Taj Gibson. The Nets were terrible. They needed a big man presence down low and Brook Lopez wasn’t always showing that side. He also dealt with the injury bug a bit. This is a great fit position wise for the Nets.
Bobcats: Tyreke Evans. Evans should not fall this far, but given his inconsistency with the Kings and Pelicans, it is best to stay on the safe side. Also, coaches don’t let him play the position he was drafted to play (PG). Tyreke is a big point guard, but he was one before it was cool to be a big point guard. Give him the ball, and let him conduct the offense. The Bobcats hadn’t really built anything yet, so it is okay to take a risk on a young talented player.
Pacers: Brandon Jennings. The Pacers were without a true leading scorer. Yes, they did have Danny Granger, but Jennings had the potential to be the best player at his position in his generation. I think it had to do with maturity and mentoring. Had he been correctly taught, then Jennings could have been a great player.
Suns: DeMarre Carroll. This is the best player available situation. Carroll was a playoff star, but his regular season was not that spectacular, so he rounds out the lottery. He would also be mentored by Grant Hill.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:04pm #1006778

Flameres15ParticipantThis is based on team fit then, and knowledge about the players development.
Clippers: Stephen Curry. Looking at the 2008-2009 roster, the Clippers had Zach Randolph, Chris Kaman, and DeAndre Jordan. Kaman and Randolph were 26 and 27, so they were in their prime. Jordan was only 20 at the time, and he would be a perfect defensive player alongside Randolph and Kaman. Eric Gordon was also an amazing player at the time and the Curry-Gordon combo is too much to resist.
Memphis: Blake Griffin. The biggest hole in the roster at the time was at PF. They signed Zach Randolph away from the Clippers, but Griffin is the superior option. O.J. Mayo and Rudy Gay had effective seasons to allow the Grizzlies to pass on James Harden.
Thunder: James Harden. The Thunder were right to draft Harden, and they should have never let him go. Obviously we saw what he could do on the bench for the Thunder, what if he had developed as a starter instead. The three-headed spear of Westbrook-Harden-Durant is the best in the NBA. Each player can rotate 2-3 positions giving them a more versatile style of play. (I am not forgetting about Serge Ibaka, but I think he doesn’t get his extension and signs somewhere else later on)
Kings: Forfeit their pick. One can hope, right? Anyone the Kings touch instantly have a terrible career. Just look at it. Tyreke Evans, Jimmer Fredette, Hassan Whiteside (until last year), Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, and Nik Stauskas, and technically Bismack Biyombo. Obviously they did draft DeMarcus Cousins, but even he has an attitude problem.
Other than that they should draft the best player available in DeMar Derozen. He is quick, athletic, and they could have Kevin Martin slide to the 3 for a bit.
Timberwolves: Wesley Matthews. It doesn’t matter how the order of the players picked goes, but it looks better if the Timberwolves draft Matthews at 5, and then the point guard. With the undrafted Matthews going fifth, Minnesota gets a very underrated scorer, defender, and 3-point shooter. I think the 3-point barrage between Kevin Love and Matthews would help push the Timberwolves deep into playoff contention (a few years later, before Love leaves the team).
Timberwolves: Ricky Rubio. Rubio is a difficult player to read. He is inconsistent, but when his game is going he is arguably the best passer in the league. He is definitely the most creative passer, and best player with the ball in his hands. His defense is amazing, as well. His ability to strip a player with the ball is matched by only Chris Paul. With Rubio it is you love him or you hate him, but I think he is a great fit for the lineup I imagine.
Warriors: Ty Lawson. This was another difficult choice. The 2008-09 Warriors are far from the championship team that beat the Cavs this last year. In fact they were one of the worst teams in the league. They were fast paced, high scoring, but terrible defensive team. Lawson is one of the better players at finding their teammate at the right moment. While he does have off-court issues, he would complement the Warriors of the time.
Knicks: Jeff Teague. This came down to Teague-Holliday-Jennings. Teague wins out because this is the pre-Melo Knicks, and Teague provides more stability to the team. While Teague may not score 55 points in a game like Jennings did, he gets his teammates involved.
Raptors: Danny Green. This is a boring pick, but a smart one. Danny Green has filled his niche with the Spurs, but I am dying to see what he could do on his own. He may or may not be a talented scorer, we don’t know. What we do know, is that Green shoots the three well, and a lot, and that he plays great defense.
Bucks: Jrue Holiday. It was either Jennings or Holiday, and since Jennings didn’t work out in the real world, I thought they would try the other route. Holiday is a good player, but he has struggled with injuries and inconsistency. I would have liked to have seen the Bogut-Holiday combo in action.
Nets: Taj Gibson. The Nets were terrible. They needed a big man presence down low and Brook Lopez wasn’t always showing that side. He also dealt with the injury bug a bit. This is a great fit position wise for the Nets.
Bobcats: Tyreke Evans. Evans should not fall this far, but given his inconsistency with the Kings and Pelicans, it is best to stay on the safe side. Also, coaches don’t let him play the position he was drafted to play (PG). Tyreke is a big point guard, but he was one before it was cool to be a big point guard. Give him the ball, and let him conduct the offense. The Bobcats hadn’t really built anything yet, so it is okay to take a risk on a young talented player.
Pacers: Brandon Jennings. The Pacers were without a true leading scorer. Yes, they did have Danny Granger, but Jennings had the potential to be the best player at his position in his generation. I think it had to do with maturity and mentoring. Had he been correctly taught, then Jennings could have been a great player.
Suns: DeMarre Carroll. This is the best player available situation. Carroll was a playoff star, but his regular season was not that spectacular, so he rounds out the lottery. He would also be mentored by Grant Hill.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:10pm #1006921
sitlbitoParticipantPretty insane to think that people are still somewhat underrating Curry. He’s the best player of this draft at this point and it’s not that close. And I would even take Harden over Griffin.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:10pm #1006782
sitlbitoParticipantPretty insane to think that people are still somewhat underrating Curry. He’s the best player of this draft at this point and it’s not that close. And I would even take Harden over Griffin.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 9:32am #1006983

JR RyderParticipantTop 3 should be 1)Curry 2)Griffin 3)Harden
I understand the logic of taking a good bigman over a good PG or SG. But not in this case. Curry impacts the game more than Griffin. If Griffin was a great rebounder and a shot blocker then I would take him #1, but he isnt. Ill make this comparison, during the Suns great team who do you think was more important, Steve Nash or Amare? Obviously Nash. Except Curry is even better than Nash was defensively and as a scorer.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/11/2015 - 9:32am #1006844

JR RyderParticipantTop 3 should be 1)Curry 2)Griffin 3)Harden
I understand the logic of taking a good bigman over a good PG or SG. But not in this case. Curry impacts the game more than Griffin. If Griffin was a great rebounder and a shot blocker then I would take him #1, but he isnt. Ill make this comparison, during the Suns great team who do you think was more important, Steve Nash or Amare? Obviously Nash. Except Curry is even better than Nash was defensively and as a scorer.
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