Most improved player

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 4:51am #61883

Arc12345
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So who looks like the most improved player in this young NBA season? Lots of good candidates out there.
Personally, I like Will Barton as my dark horse. The dude has been playing well and does everything an NBA 2-guard is expected to do. Great length, and has really seized the opportunity in front of him. We’ll see if he continues to produce.
Others I like are Beal, McCollum, Giannis, Oladipo, and Reggie Jackson.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:09am #1024579

CameronCrazy11
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I feel like right now it’s a two man race between Andre Drummond and Bradley Beal. CJ McCollum is probably my 3rd place guy too. I’d have Evan Fournier ahead of Victor Oladipo too. Oladipo’s offense hasn’t been too great this season. I’d actually say he’s a regressed based on what he’s done so far this season. Fournier is averaging a career high 18.8 ppg right now.
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:20am #1024583
  
  bumbleb33
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  yep oladipo actually been ass. he is shooting 38% so far
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:20am #1024721
  
  bumbleb33
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  yep oladipo actually been ass. he is shooting 38% so far
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:09am #1024717

CameronCrazy11
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I feel like right now it’s a two man race between Andre Drummond and Bradley Beal. CJ McCollum is probably my 3rd place guy too. I’d have Evan Fournier ahead of Victor Oladipo too. Oladipo’s offense hasn’t been too great this season. I’d actually say he’s a regressed based on what he’s done so far this season. Fournier is averaging a career high 18.8 ppg right now.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:38am #1024585

SkalAndJamal
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I’d like to say a dark horse if his coaching staff can give more PT is Jeremy Lamb. Finally got on the right team!
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:38am #1024723

SkalAndJamal
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I’d like to say a dark horse if his coaching staff can give more PT is Jeremy Lamb. Finally got on the right team!
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:45am #1024587

mgreener_34
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No love for Evan Fournier? Dude has been the best player for the Magic putting up 19/2/4 on fantastic shooting.
Also, if Kent Bazemore and Alec Burks keep this up, both of those guys need to be in the discussion for sure.
I disagree about Drummond and Beal. Those guys have been good for a couple years now, and everyone expected this out of them once they finally got a little older. I mean, one was a #2 pick and the other SHOULD have been a #2 pick
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:47am #1024589
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Which was a #2 pick?
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:43am #1024611
    
    circumlocution75
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    Drummond was the #9 pick 1 year earlier in the 2012 NBA Draft…..
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    - Posted on: Mon, 11/16/2015 - 7:11am #1024809
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      oh i could have sworn it said Brad Beal not Oladipo.
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    - Posted on: Mon, 11/16/2015 - 7:11am #1024946
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      oh i could have sworn it said Brad Beal not Oladipo.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:43am #1024749
    
    circumlocution75
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    Drummond was the #9 pick 1 year earlier in the 2012 NBA Draft…..
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:47am #1024727
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Which was a #2 pick?
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 8:04am #1024615
  
  DukeDaSquad
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  Wasn’t beal picked 3rd?
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 3:07pm #1024786
    
    mgreener_34
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    Yep, my bad, MKG hasn’t played in so long that I completely forgot about him! They both should have been #2 picks.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 3:07pm #1024648
    
    mgreener_34
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    Yep, my bad, MKG hasn’t played in so long that I completely forgot about him! They both should have been #2 picks.
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 8:04am #1024753
  
  DukeDaSquad
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  Wasn’t beal picked 3rd?
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:45am #1024725

mgreener_34
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No love for Evan Fournier? Dude has been the best player for the Magic putting up 19/2/4 on fantastic shooting.
Also, if Kent Bazemore and Alec Burks keep this up, both of those guys need to be in the discussion for sure.
I disagree about Drummond and Beal. Those guys have been good for a couple years now, and everyone expected this out of them once they finally got a little older. I mean, one was a #2 pick and the other SHOULD have been a #2 pick
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 6:26am #1024591

Arc12345
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Apologies for forgetting Drummond and Fournier. I don’t think just because Drummond was good before excludes him from the award. He’s arguably a top 2 center in the league right now. Him and Demarcus are dominant.
I really like Fournier as well, and I’m not sure what they’re going to decide to do with him. Hezonja is ready to contribute, and clearly Fournier is as well. Someone needs to get moved.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 6:26am #1024729

Arc12345
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Apologies for forgetting Drummond and Fournier. I don’t think just because Drummond was good before excludes him from the award. He’s arguably a top 2 center in the league right now. Him and Demarcus are dominant.
I really like Fournier as well, and I’m not sure what they’re going to decide to do with him. Hezonja is ready to contribute, and clearly Fournier is as well. Someone needs to get moved.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:09am #1024599

RUDEBOY_
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nobody mentioned whiteside,mcdermott or rubio.

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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:14am #1024601
  
  bumbleb33
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  rubio has not really improved. not to mention he’s missed like 3 games already
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:32am #1024607
    
    RUDEBOY_
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    i know he’s shooting only 39%,but he’s almost averaging a double double.and he seems to be playing with more confidence this yr.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:33pm #1024816
      
      tuck243
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      Not to mention, he’s floating around the same numbers as last year. Gaining more confidence in his shot shouldn’t equate to MOP nomination. Especially when the player being mentioned really didn’t improve. In a few games he’s confident in his shot and then the next he’s not. I feel like whenever it’s not going in early he has issues.
      But how long is it going to take him to actually improve? It’s been 5 years now and he has the same game as a rookie. No real improvement. I think he receives too much of a pass (especially on this site).
      
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    - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 5:33pm #1024678
      
      tuck243
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      Not to mention, he’s floating around the same numbers as last year. Gaining more confidence in his shot shouldn’t equate to MOP nomination. Especially when the player being mentioned really didn’t improve. In a few games he’s confident in his shot and then the next he’s not. I feel like whenever it’s not going in early he has issues.
      But how long is it going to take him to actually improve? It’s been 5 years now and he has the same game as a rookie. No real improvement. I think he receives too much of a pass (especially on this site).
      
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      - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 6:46pm #1024848
        
        DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64
        Tuck if u don’t c the improvement in Rubio then you dont no jack about basketball!! It AinT all about numbers!!!!! He is a Great defender and much better leader this year, Even KG and coach Mitchell said that!!! Look up the timber wolves -+s when he is on and off the Flo!
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      - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 6:46pm #1024710
        
        DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64
        Tuck if u don’t c the improvement in Rubio then you dont no jack about basketball!! It AinT all about numbers!!!!! He is a Great defender and much better leader this year, Even KG and coach Mitchell said that!!! Look up the timber wolves -+s when he is on and off the Flo!
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        Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:20pm #1024878
        
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        Did anyone predict Rubio to be most improved in a preseason theead.
        He was my pick, and I recall some others picking him then too.
        Such knowledgable fans
        
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        Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:20pm #1024740
        
        Skip
        
        Did anyone predict Rubio to be most improved in a preseason theead.
        He was my pick, and I recall some others picking him then too.
        Such knowledgable fans
        
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        Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 10:29pm #1024894
        
        bumbleb33
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        the +- when rubio is off the floor and on is easily explained…. Zach "tunnel vision" Lavine is his backup at PG. Rubio for all his shooting failures is an elite passer and Lavine can’t even run simply offensive sets.
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        Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 10:29pm #1024756
        
        bumbleb33
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        the +- when rubio is off the floor and on is easily explained…. Zach "tunnel vision" Lavine is his backup at PG. Rubio for all his shooting failures is an elite passer and Lavine can’t even run simply offensive sets.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:32am #1024745
    
    RUDEBOY_
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    i know he’s shooting only 39%,but he’s almost averaging a double double.and he seems to be playing with more confidence this yr.
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:14am #1024739
  
  bumbleb33
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  rubio has not really improved. not to mention he’s missed like 3 games already
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:09am #1024737

RUDEBOY_
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nobody mentioned whiteside,mcdermott or rubio.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:26am #1024605
rtbt
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Jeremy Lin is not the most improved player in the league but he’s off to a vastly better start this year.
- Pts
  12.2
- Reb
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- Ast
  2.9
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:26am #1024743
rtbt
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Jeremy Lin is not the most improved player in the league but he’s off to a vastly better start this year.
- Pts
  12.2
- Reb
  2.2
- Ast
  2.9
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:39am #1024609

OhCanada-
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I love Will Barton too but so far he has proved to be mostly effective when the game is finished or when Denver is blown out. Although when he scored his career high 26 he kept Denver alive so cases can be made both ways.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:39am #1024747

OhCanada-
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I love Will Barton too but so far he has proved to be mostly effective when the game is finished or when Denver is blown out. Although when he scored his career high 26 he kept Denver alive so cases can be made both ways.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 10:19am #1024617

adum
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Otto Porter.
With Pierce gone Otto is up to almost 34 mpg this season and pretty much doubled up on Pts Assists and rebounds.
Yes he’s far away but if he continues to get 34-35 mpg he’s bound to have some noteworthy performances.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 10:19am #1024755

adum
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Otto Porter.
With Pierce gone Otto is up to almost 34 mpg this season and pretty much doubled up on Pts Assists and rebounds.
Yes he’s far away but if he continues to get 34-35 mpg he’s bound to have some noteworthy performances.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 11:31am #1024622

raybeas
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Paul George?
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 11:48am #1024624
  
  DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64
  Pg is an all star! Where have u been raybeas?
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 11:48am #1024763
  
  DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64
  Pg is an all star! Where have u been raybeas?
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 11:31am #1024761

raybeas
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Paul George?
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 12:13pm #1024771

blackflash234
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I think what Andre Drummond is doing this year is insane and if he can sustain that, he’ll be the favourite to win the award. How many 20/20 games has he had already?
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 12:13pm #1024632

blackflash234
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I think what Andre Drummond is doing this year is insane and if he can sustain that, he’ll be the favourite to win the award. How many 20/20 games has he had already?
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 12:52pm #1024773

JDB12
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I was going to say Kelly Olynyk and The Olynyk Effect. But he’ll probably just bypass the Most Improved and go for MVP and DPOY.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 12:52pm #1024634

JDB12
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I was going to say Kelly Olynyk and The Olynyk Effect. But he’ll probably just bypass the Most Improved and go for MVP and DPOY.
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 4:10pm #1024796
  
  ZachAttack
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  My thoughts exactly…
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 4:10pm #1024658
  
  ZachAttack
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  My thoughts exactly…
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 2:51pm #1024782

nill650
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1-3 yr players most improvement from last season i have seen thus far:galloway,muhammad and ezeli.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 2:51pm #1024644

nill650
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1-3 yr players most improvement from last season i have seen thus far:galloway,muhammad and ezeli.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:13pm #1024858

FrankStallone
At the micro level, Kyle Anderson might be significantly improved.
Though it’s still a small sample size, he has the #2 defensive rating in the NBA behind Kyle Olynyk
stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/advanced/

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 7:13pm #1024720

FrankStallone
At the micro level, Kyle Anderson might be significantly improved.
Though it’s still a small sample size, he has the #2 defensive rating in the NBA behind Kyle Olynyk
stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/advanced/

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 8:54pm #1024872

Biggysmalls
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Never in my wildest dreams did I expect to check out this topic and see Rubio’s name pop up.
The guy has been the same player basically since his rookie year. he might be a little bigger/stronger but his shot is still terrible, he still gambles, he still provides the intangibles and energy, but cmon. I’m as big a Wolves fan as there is around here but Rubio is the same guy he’s always been.
If the Wolves get anybody on that MIP list i’d guess it would be Lavine. If he gets minutes I could see him putting up a 14-17 points per game type line which – if closer to that 17ish – could get him in the discussion. Coincidently enough, Rubio’s presence would help that a ton.
Right now I’d have to say the two favorites would be Drummond and McCollum. Numbers have been really good for both. What about Reggie Jackson? Does he count or do people consider the numbers he put up last year with Detroit and dismiss him? Makes sense if so, but he’s putting up numbers too.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 8:54pm #1024734

Biggysmalls
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Never in my wildest dreams did I expect to check out this topic and see Rubio’s name pop up.
The guy has been the same player basically since his rookie year. he might be a little bigger/stronger but his shot is still terrible, he still gambles, he still provides the intangibles and energy, but cmon. I’m as big a Wolves fan as there is around here but Rubio is the same guy he’s always been.
If the Wolves get anybody on that MIP list i’d guess it would be Lavine. If he gets minutes I could see him putting up a 14-17 points per game type line which – if closer to that 17ish – could get him in the discussion. Coincidently enough, Rubio’s presence would help that a ton.
Right now I’d have to say the two favorites would be Drummond and McCollum. Numbers have been really good for both. What about Reggie Jackson? Does he count or do people consider the numbers he put up last year with Detroit and dismiss him? Makes sense if so, but he’s putting up numbers too.

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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 10:31pm #1024896
  
  bumbleb33
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  Lavine is doing the same thing as he did last year. Chucks up a lot of shots, cant defend, cant pass
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 10:31pm #1024758
  
  bumbleb33
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  Lavine is doing the same thing as he did last year. Chucks up a lot of shots, cant defend, cant pass
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:07pm #1024874

Heroescantdie
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Man, he’s averaging almost 20 20 this season, to average atleast 18 ppg is hard, how about the boards? so unreal. he’s a freak, I mean he has not yet develop advance post skills and yet he’s averaging 18 ppg and 19 rpg. If he could only shoot 65% in the ft line.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:07pm #1024736

Heroescantdie
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Man, he’s averaging almost 20 20 this season, to average atleast 18 ppg is hard, how about the boards? so unreal. he’s a freak, I mean he has not yet develop advance post skills and yet he’s averaging 18 ppg and 19 rpg. If he could only shoot 65% in the ft line.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:22pm #1024880

Skip
Can someone please go through old archives to see if Rubios name popped up pre season.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:22pm #1024742

Skip
Can someone please go through old archives to see if Rubios name popped up pre season.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:23pm #1024882

TRC1991
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My vote is CJ McCollum

He went from 6 ppg last year to 21 this year

Drummond is up there

Comeback Player of the Year: Rondo

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Posted on: Sun, 11/15/2015 - 9:23pm #1024744

TRC1991
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My vote is CJ McCollum

He went from 6 ppg last year to 21 this year

Drummond is up there

Comeback Player of the Year: Rondo

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Posted on: Mon, 11/16/2015 - 2:43pm #1024883

llperez
In the season predictions thread I picked McCollum, so I’m sticking with him
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Posted on: Mon, 11/16/2015 - 2:43pm #1025020

llperez
In the season predictions thread I picked McCollum, so I’m sticking with him
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Posted on: Thu, 11/19/2015 - 12:08am #1025543

r377
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He wont win MIP but Cory Joseph has been improving.
I wonder if Joseph and Schroeder will eventually be starters for some other NBA team ?
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Posted on: Thu, 11/19/2015 - 12:08am #1025680

r377
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He wont win MIP but Cory Joseph has been improving.
I wonder if Joseph and Schroeder will eventually be starters for some other NBA team ?
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