Milos Teodosic to the Knicks?

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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 3:02am #61467

SkalAndJamal
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I don’t know why Phil hasn’t called this guy! All he’s asking for is 3 million. He’s literally perfect for the triangle and a guy who would compliment Carmelo. He’s a sniper, knows how to run a team, great passer, defends and plays super hard, can play the 2, and he’s a big PG. Kinda like Ron Harper in a way. If I was NYK, I sign Milos, develop assests, be ready to make an offer to Philly when they decide they can’t play Noel and Okafor together, and try to trade for Noel. Keep Porzingis and whatever developments he can make, you take.
Milos is 28 and Grant is 22, so by the time Grant reaches his prime, Milos is at the tail-end of his career. They switch roles in the rotation, but it’s great cause they can play together on the floor cause of Milos’ versatility.
Line-up like this
C| Nerlens Noel/Robin Lopez
F| Derrick Williams/Kristaps Porzingis
F| Carmelo
G| Arron Afflalo
G| Milos Teodosic/Jerian Grant
this team would make noise in the east.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 3:16am #1014296

Smokedout
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Ye like sixers trade their best young player for more picks.. not gonna happen but i do think teodosic could be a good starter in nba for team like knicks
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 4:59am #1014314
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  They just did that last year. In fact you could also argue they traded away their top 2 young guys.
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 4:59am #1014453
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  They just did that last year. In fact you could also argue they traded away their top 2 young guys.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 3:16am #1014435

Smokedout
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Ye like sixers trade their best young player for more picks.. not gonna happen but i do think teodosic could be a good starter in nba for team like knicks
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 4:27am #1014306

herceg_buku
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Teodosic is much like Calderon, but Teodosic is a better shooter though. He should be in the NBA by all rights he has proven it overseas time and time over again.
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 4:57am #1014312
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Bigger, better defender, plays harder
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  - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:04am #1014318
    
    GBee
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    Teodosic is a crap defender.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:28am #1014322
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      lol cause he doesn’t get steals doesn’t mean He’s a bad defender. He’s tenacious and he gets after it.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:42am #1014326
        
        GBee
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        Did I even mention steals? He is a crap defender and has been his entire career so I’m assuming you don’t know much about him and are just talking out of your ass. He’s slow, weak and unlike Calderon doesn’t even play fundamentally sound defense, gambling with his flops and giving up early on plays.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:25am #1014348
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        so you are going to talk about how I dont know much about Milos but then right away you say Calderon plays fundamentally sound defense. That’s pretty amazing LOL.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:29am #1014368
        
        GBee
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        Yeah because he does. His issues defensively are because he’s lacking in the athletic department, but if you watch him play he sits down, gives space, stays solid, doesn’t gamble, does what he can to stay in front. He’s even a really good communicator on D, always talking. He just cannot stay in front of quick guards and gets physically overpowered vs big guards. Now take his weaknesses defensively and put them on a gambler and flopper who quits on plays and sticks to screens. You’d get what Teodosic is defensively. And yet he could reprise the Ron Harper role? Get a clue.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:24pm #1014378
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        LOL this is great. So why is Calderon such an awful defender but a guy with the same physical attributes, like an Eric Snow, was a great one? I cant wait to hear what BS you got next.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:55pm #1014384
        
        GBee
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        WTF? You’re honestly gonna compare Eric Snow’s physical profile to Calderon’s. Eric Snow was quick laterally and in his earlier days was one of the fastest end to end players, so he had that recovery speed required for PG defenders. Later in his career he was one of the stronger PGs in the league as well. Quit while you’re behind. Your lack of knowledge is showing.
        "Tenacious… plays hard on defense… really gets after it defensively…" Really? Teodosic? That’s all I need to know about your knowledge of the player so I don’t need to further read or respond to any of your posts on this topic.
        Later.
        
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 2:22pm #1014528
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        lol Eric Snow athletic.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 2:22pm #1014390
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        lol Eric Snow athletic.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:55pm #1014522
        
        GBee
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        WTF? You’re honestly gonna compare Eric Snow’s physical profile to Calderon’s. Eric Snow was quick laterally and in his earlier days was one of the fastest end to end players, so he had that recovery speed required for PG defenders. Later in his career he was one of the stronger PGs in the league as well. Quit while you’re behind. Your lack of knowledge is showing.
        "Tenacious… plays hard on defense… really gets after it defensively…" Really? Teodosic? That’s all I need to know about your knowledge of the player so I don’t need to further read or respond to any of your posts on this topic.
        Later.
        
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:24pm #1014517
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        LOL this is great. So why is Calderon such an awful defender but a guy with the same physical attributes, like an Eric Snow, was a great one? I cant wait to hear what BS you got next.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:29am #1014507
        
        GBee
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        Yeah because he does. His issues defensively are because he’s lacking in the athletic department, but if you watch him play he sits down, gives space, stays solid, doesn’t gamble, does what he can to stay in front. He’s even a really good communicator on D, always talking. He just cannot stay in front of quick guards and gets physically overpowered vs big guards. Now take his weaknesses defensively and put them on a gambler and flopper who quits on plays and sticks to screens. You’d get what Teodosic is defensively. And yet he could reprise the Ron Harper role? Get a clue.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:25am #1014487
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        so you are going to talk about how I dont know much about Milos but then right away you say Calderon plays fundamentally sound defense. That’s pretty amazing LOL.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:42am #1014465
        
        GBee
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        Did I even mention steals? He is a crap defender and has been his entire career so I’m assuming you don’t know much about him and are just talking out of your ass. He’s slow, weak and unlike Calderon doesn’t even play fundamentally sound defense, gambling with his flops and giving up early on plays.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 6:02am #1014328
        
        oogells
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        Tenacious and gets after it AKA he can’t move side to side at all. Even Eastern Conference starting pgs would eat him alive. Solid bench contributer if he ever wanted to come over but to expect more then that is just silly.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:28am #1014350
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        Oh yeah cause Tony Parker really ate him when they matched up and TP went 3/12 GTFO.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:18am #1014364
        
        oogells
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        Tony Parker was rubbish all tournament, once again did you even watch the games? Like, it was actually a story that he was so bad repeatedly. And yes we were talking about defense, but i do believe Teodosic went 0-10 in that game. Also, I was more talking about him being able to deal with athletes, not crafy old vets, as i thought my trashing his athleticism implied.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:11pm #1014376
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        You have a point with the quick guards. However, there’s not that many good defensive PGs in the NBA anyways. I don’t know why not Milos can’t do what Lillard is doing, every move Lillard has made other than the acrobatic finishes he makes, I’ve seen Milos do. You could argue Milos is more crafty though.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:11pm #1014515
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        You have a point with the quick guards. However, there’s not that many good defensive PGs in the NBA anyways. I don’t know why not Milos can’t do what Lillard is doing, every move Lillard has made other than the acrobatic finishes he makes, I’ve seen Milos do. You could argue Milos is more crafty though.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:18am #1014503
        
        oogells
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        Tony Parker was rubbish all tournament, once again did you even watch the games? Like, it was actually a story that he was so bad repeatedly. And yes we were talking about defense, but i do believe Teodosic went 0-10 in that game. Also, I was more talking about him being able to deal with athletes, not crafy old vets, as i thought my trashing his athleticism implied.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:37pm #1014554
        
        sitlbito
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        I’m sorry skalandjamal but you embarrassed yourself. Parker has been terrible all tournament,didn’t have a single good shooting game. Not one over 40%.
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:37pm #1014416
        
        sitlbito
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        I’m sorry skalandjamal but you embarrassed yourself. Parker has been terrible all tournament,didn’t have a single good shooting game. Not one over 40%.
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        Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 3:04am #1014558
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        ?
        1. Did I say Tony Parker was having a terrific tournament? No. Did I still give examples of Milos playing other NBA players that he torched? yup.
        2. Parker actually had 4 games shooting over 40%…
        3. I cant believe I actually spent the time replying to the most idiotic post ever.
        4. For this thread it’ll be the last one.
        
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        Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 3:04am #1014420
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        ?
        1. Did I say Tony Parker was having a terrific tournament? No. Did I still give examples of Milos playing other NBA players that he torched? yup.
        2. Parker actually had 4 games shooting over 40%…
        3. I cant believe I actually spent the time replying to the most idiotic post ever.
        4. For this thread it’ll be the last one.
        
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        Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:28am #1014489
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        Oh yeah cause Tony Parker really ate him when they matched up and TP went 3/12 GTFO.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 6:02am #1014467
        
        oogells
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        Tenacious and gets after it AKA he can’t move side to side at all. Even Eastern Conference starting pgs would eat him alive. Solid bench contributer if he ever wanted to come over but to expect more then that is just silly.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:28am #1014461
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      lol cause he doesn’t get steals doesn’t mean He’s a bad defender. He’s tenacious and he gets after it.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:04am #1014457
    
    GBee
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    Teodosic is a crap defender.
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 4:57am #1014451
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Bigger, better defender, plays harder
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 4:27am #1014445

herceg_buku
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Teodosic is much like Calderon, but Teodosic is a better shooter though. He should be in the NBA by all rights he has proven it overseas time and time over again.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:04am #1014316

GBee
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No way. Teodosic should stay overseas and remain a star. He’d get absolutely ran through defensively in the NBA and he wouldn’t be able to dominate the ball the way he wants to in the triangle either, which is not a very PnR heavy system. He’d just be a guy in the NBA and I don’t think his ego would be able to handle that. Given how temperamental he is I could see him flaming out.
I’d rather give Nando de Colo another shot. I thought he got a raw deal last time he was in the NBA. He’s a better defender and with his less ball-dominant style I think he’d be a better fit for the triangle.

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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:35am #1014354
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  ? He is more than capable of playing off the ball, maybe it’s you who hasnt watched him play.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:33am #1014370
    
    GBee
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    He is very ball-dominant and a very PnR heavy guard, one of the most PnR heavy guards overseas. He can single handedly kill the momentum of an offense with his ball pounding and he needs screens to get to wherever he needs to go because he lacks blow by and breakdown ability.
    Now quit talking out of your ass about players you know very little of.
    
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    - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:00pm #1014372
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      LOL alright buddy, believe what you want to believe, if you want to be blind to fact that in Eurobasket and last year’s FIBA world cup that Milos playing off the ball a lot didnt happen, that’s fine. Feel free to watch a couple games though.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:00pm #1014511
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      LOL alright buddy, believe what you want to believe, if you want to be blind to fact that in Eurobasket and last year’s FIBA world cup that Milos playing off the ball a lot didnt happen, that’s fine. Feel free to watch a couple games though.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:33am #1014509
    
    GBee
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    He is very ball-dominant and a very PnR heavy guard, one of the most PnR heavy guards overseas. He can single handedly kill the momentum of an offense with his ball pounding and he needs screens to get to wherever he needs to go because he lacks blow by and breakdown ability.
    Now quit talking out of your ass about players you know very little of.
    
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:35am #1014493
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  ? He is more than capable of playing off the ball, maybe it’s you who hasnt watched him play.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:04am #1014455

GBee
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No way. Teodosic should stay overseas and remain a star. He’d get absolutely ran through defensively in the NBA and he wouldn’t be able to dominate the ball the way he wants to in the triangle either, which is not a very PnR heavy system. He’d just be a guy in the NBA and I don’t think his ego would be able to handle that. Given how temperamental he is I could see him flaming out.
I’d rather give Nando de Colo another shot. I thought he got a raw deal last time he was in the NBA. He’s a better defender and with his less ball-dominant style I think he’d be a better fit for the triangle.

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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:37am #1014324

Numbers_Cruncher
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He’s under contract for 2 more years. He has no NBA out. He’ll be 30 by then.
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 6:38am #1014330
  
  herceg_buku
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  Plenty of guys i know are almost 30 and still chasing hoop dreams, but they dont even play profesionally overseas lol, talking about JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT TO THE LEAGUE. Am i the only one that knows guys like this looolll
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 6:38am #1014469
  
  herceg_buku
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  Plenty of guys i know are almost 30 and still chasing hoop dreams, but they dont even play profesionally overseas lol, talking about JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT TO THE LEAGUE. Am i the only one that knows guys like this looolll
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:29am #1014352
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Buyout
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:29am #1014491
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Buyout
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 5:37am #1014463

Numbers_Cruncher
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He’s under contract for 2 more years. He has no NBA out. He’ll be 30 by then.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:40am #1014358

SkalAndJamal
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Alright guys Tedosic completely dominated Huertas and Barbosa on BOTH ends of the court when Serbia and Brazil matched up and yet he can’t stick around in the nba. Makes sense.
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:24am #1014366
  
  oogells
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  I don’t think anyone is saying he can’t play in the nba. Could be the first guard off the bench easy. You just had him being a starting point guard in the league which just doesn’t make any sense for the type of player he is.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:02pm #1014374
    
    SkalAndJamal
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    The type of player who is a big 6’5 PG who can shoot and pass with any other guard in the world? Who plays hard coming off off-ball picks and finds his way into lanes with ease, plays hard on defense and tries to be as active as he can? Oh and was only the Euroleague MVP.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:41pm #1014380
      
      oogells
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      Yes, that is a player I want on the bench, and not starting. I agree with everything you said, maybe you made him sound 10-20% better then I think he is, but I can’t argue with that. What I can argue with is if you are not going to be a good defender at the point guard position, you better be elite at creating offense for yourself and/or others, like the player you compared him to before in Lillard. No nba team would give him the starting pg job right off the bat, he would have to prove himself, much like any other rookie, ever. You can get away with starting nba unknowns at every position but point guard, no coach in his right mind would be that risky. It’s just not possible, move on.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 2:31pm #1014530
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        He definitely has the tools to prove himself and for 3 mill that’s not that much, he was a Euroleague MVP. NBA teams start rookies right away… "Not possible" seems a little bit extreme.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 2:31pm #1014392
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        He definitely has the tools to prove himself and for 3 mill that’s not that much, he was a Euroleague MVP. NBA teams start rookies right away… "Not possible" seems a little bit extreme.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 2:48pm #1014532
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        I just hope you can respectively see that this year, Houston had Jason Terry start and have to guard Chris Paul for one whole series, and won… And all Terry can do is just shoot. I personally can see Milos do Terry’s job at least twice as good. That’s my opinion.
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      - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 2:48pm #1014394
        
        SkalAndJamal
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        I just hope you can respectively see that this year, Houston had Jason Terry start and have to guard Chris Paul for one whole series, and won… And all Terry can do is just shoot. I personally can see Milos do Terry’s job at least twice as good. That’s my opinion.
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        Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 3:07pm #1014529
        
        oogells
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        But if you remember Jason Terry only started cause Patrick Beverly got hurt. Not saying he couldn’t do the job if given it. I just see there being about a .001% chance a coach gives him a starting pg spot without him playing in the NBA. Hasn’t happened with a vet euro since probably Toni Kukoc and Arvydas Sabonis, and even tho I can’t be 100% both started on day 1. Also as stated previously easier for a non point guard to start early.
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        Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 3:07pm #1014668
        
        oogells
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        But if you remember Jason Terry only started cause Patrick Beverly got hurt. Not saying he couldn’t do the job if given it. I just see there being about a .001% chance a coach gives him a starting pg spot without him playing in the NBA. Hasn’t happened with a vet euro since probably Toni Kukoc and Arvydas Sabonis, and even tho I can’t be 100% both started on day 1. Also as stated previously easier for a non point guard to start early.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:41pm #1014518
      
      oogells
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      Yes, that is a player I want on the bench, and not starting. I agree with everything you said, maybe you made him sound 10-20% better then I think he is, but I can’t argue with that. What I can argue with is if you are not going to be a good defender at the point guard position, you better be elite at creating offense for yourself and/or others, like the player you compared him to before in Lillard. No nba team would give him the starting pg job right off the bat, he would have to prove himself, much like any other rookie, ever. You can get away with starting nba unknowns at every position but point guard, no coach in his right mind would be that risky. It’s just not possible, move on.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 1:02pm #1014512
    
    SkalAndJamal
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    The type of player who is a big 6’5 PG who can shoot and pass with any other guard in the world? Who plays hard coming off off-ball picks and finds his way into lanes with ease, plays hard on defense and tries to be as active as he can? Oh and was only the Euroleague MVP.
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- Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:24am #1014505
  
  oogells
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  I don’t think anyone is saying he can’t play in the nba. Could be the first guard off the bench easy. You just had him being a starting point guard in the league which just doesn’t make any sense for the type of player he is.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:40am #1014497

SkalAndJamal
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Alright guys Tedosic completely dominated Huertas and Barbosa on BOTH ends of the court when Serbia and Brazil matched up and yet he can’t stick around in the nba. Makes sense.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:36pm #1014552

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I would love to see him in the NBA just once,just in case. I think he could be a terrific 6th man,but yeah he’s a terrible defender,always has been,and he has a difficult character(don’t tell me it’s good because he has a personality blah blah blah,he tried to hit a ref this year). But he would be highly entertaining in the NBA and the fans would love him. The coaches? Maybe not so much.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/20/2015 - 11:36pm #1014414

sitlbito
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I would love to see him in the NBA just once,just in case. I think he could be a terrific 6th man,but yeah he’s a terrible defender,always has been,and he has a difficult character(don’t tell me it’s good because he has a personality blah blah blah,he tried to hit a ref this year). But he would be highly entertaining in the NBA and the fans would love him. The coaches? Maybe not so much.
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Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 3:39pm #1014539

King Calucha
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If you watched him play, then you know Teodosic can play off the ball. He has very good off-ball movement and his range has no limits. He would definitely start in a lot of NBA teams. Defensively he would struggle containing the most athletic guys. It’s really difficult for me not to like such a smart player.
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Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 3:39pm #1014678

King Calucha
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If you watched him play, then you know Teodosic can play off the ball. He has very good off-ball movement and his range has no limits. He would definitely start in a lot of NBA teams. Defensively he would struggle containing the most athletic guys. It’s really difficult for me not to like such a smart player.
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Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 8:24pm #1014565

McDunkin
This was real DNYCE of you man.
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Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 8:24pm #1014703

McDunkin
This was real DNYCE of you man.
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Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 8:42pm #1014571

kobyz
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Poor man Gilbert Arenas…
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Posted on: Mon, 09/21/2015 - 8:42pm #1014710

kobyz
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Poor man Gilbert Arenas…
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