Solution to the hack-a-shaq

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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 3:49pm #60971

antiwork3000
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I know coaches and owners don’t want to change anything regarding the hack-a-Shaq situation but its so boring watching the last 3 minutes play out for 30+ minutes. I’m proposing a simple solution. Like the one and one.. allow a third free throw if player makes the second free throw. This increases the chances of the hacked team getting 2 pts per hack and thus cancelling out the other teams posession.
If you look at bad free throw shooters most of them are still in the 60% range. If they make 2 out of 3 then other teams will think twice about doing the hack a shaq. Even worse would be somehow the player makes all three free throws causing the hack a shaq strategy to backfire and stop being a thing.
all in favor say aye
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 3:55pm #1001306

BogDon_Krypt
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Bogdan bog-NO-avich
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 3:55pm #1001161

BogDon_Krypt
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Bogdan bog-NO-avich
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 3:56pm #1001308

Memphis Madness
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Good idea.
They used to have 2 out of 3 on shooting fouls.

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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 3:56pm #1001163

Memphis Madness
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Good idea.
They used to have 2 out of 3 on shooting fouls.

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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 4:38pm #1001316

daggers818
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I’m not in favor of adding more free throws to the game. My simple suggestion would be to allow an off-the-ball intentional foul to be optional for the player to shoot or take out of bounds with a new shot clock. Seems like that would kill the hack strategy right away. No more fouling, no more free throws, encourage good play on the floor and not at the foul line.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 4:38pm #1001171

daggers818
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I’m not in favor of adding more free throws to the game. My simple suggestion would be to allow an off-the-ball intentional foul to be optional for the player to shoot or take out of bounds with a new shot clock. Seems like that would kill the hack strategy right away. No more fouling, no more free throws, encourage good play on the floor and not at the foul line.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 9:04pm #1001227
  
  XYRYX
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  Totally agree.
  I don’t want to imagine either what guys like Harden or Jamal Crawford are going to do to bend the rules and go for 12+ FTA per game…
  This could actually beeing even more annoing to watch…
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 9:04pm #1001371
  
  XYRYX
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  Totally agree.
  I don’t want to imagine either what guys like Harden or Jamal Crawford are going to do to bend the rules and go for 12+ FTA per game…
  This could actually beeing even more annoing to watch…
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:11pm #1001235
  
  Mopgrass
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  It makes more sense to let them take one free throw AND take the ball out of bounds. Players making decisions will slow things down. Also, I’m not sure your idea of just taking the ball out would ever be chosen by a team. The average player shoots about 45%. Add to that the possibility of turnovers, subtract the likeliness of a put back from an offensive rebound, and it’s still worth it for a 45% FT (or a bit less) shooter to shoot free throws. Therefor, it wouldn’t change anything.
  One free throw and the ball out of bounds might still slow the game down a little, occasionally. However, it wouldn’t often be used as a tactic.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:11pm #1001379
  
  Mopgrass
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  It makes more sense to let them take one free throw AND take the ball out of bounds. Players making decisions will slow things down. Also, I’m not sure your idea of just taking the ball out would ever be chosen by a team. The average player shoots about 45%. Add to that the possibility of turnovers, subtract the likeliness of a put back from an offensive rebound, and it’s still worth it for a 45% FT (or a bit less) shooter to shoot free throws. Therefor, it wouldn’t change anything.
  One free throw and the ball out of bounds might still slow the game down a little, occasionally. However, it wouldn’t often be used as a tactic.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 5:07pm #1001324

ZachAttack
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I like OP idea… daggers818, it will probably take longer to decide whether or not you want free throws or the ball out of bounds. You should just have a set rule for everything instead of players deciding. It would make more sense to me.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 5:07pm #1001179

ZachAttack
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I like OP idea… daggers818, it will probably take longer to decide whether or not you want free throws or the ball out of bounds. You should just have a set rule for everything instead of players deciding. It would make more sense to me.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 5:35pm #1001332

llperez
I don’t have a problem, I enjoy seeing teams use the strategy. If the strategy works, then the offensive team will sub out the bad shooter and problem solved. If it doesn’t work and the guy makes the ft’s then the defensive team will eventually stop. As I a fan, I understand and appreciate the strategy and enjoy the chess match involved. Plus I hate the idea of changing rules to accommodate guys who lack basic skills for the simple fact it makes the fans happier.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 5:35pm #1001187

llperez
I don’t have a problem, I enjoy seeing teams use the strategy. If the strategy works, then the offensive team will sub out the bad shooter and problem solved. If it doesn’t work and the guy makes the ft’s then the defensive team will eventually stop. As I a fan, I understand and appreciate the strategy and enjoy the chess match involved. Plus I hate the idea of changing rules to accommodate guys who lack basic skills for the simple fact it makes the fans happier.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 6:43pm #1001353
  
  antiwork3000
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  I also appreciate the late game strategy but the constant subbing is also part of the thing I dislike.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 6:43pm #1001209
  
  antiwork3000
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  I also appreciate the late game strategy but the constant subbing is also part of the thing I dislike.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 5:50pm #1001343

llperez
Josh smith-50%
dwight-53%
deandre-40%
very few 60% ft shooters are ever hack on purpose. 60% should keep u safe from opposing teams.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 5:50pm #1001199

llperez
Josh smith-50%
dwight-53%
deandre-40%
very few 60% ft shooters are ever hack on purpose. 60% should keep u safe from opposing teams.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 6:42pm #1001351
  
  antiwork3000
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  This is mostly true but I think the rule would still deter intentional hacks. However small the chance there is still a chance of a three point play.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 6:42pm #1001207
  
  antiwork3000
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  This is mostly true but I think the rule would still deter intentional hacks. However small the chance there is still a chance of a three point play.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 9:11pm #1001229

thetrademachinery
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it makes sense if a foul is made outside the 3 pt line to be 3 shots.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/15/2015 - 9:11pm #1001373

thetrademachinery
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it makes sense if a foul is made outside the 3 pt line to be 3 shots.
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Posted on: Thu, 07/16/2015 - 12:32am #1001247

Rip255
I’ve got a better idea. Every time a team fouls after the 7th foul, an automatic 2 pts is awarded.
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Posted on: Thu, 07/16/2015 - 12:32am #1001391

Rip255
I’ve got a better idea. Every time a team fouls after the 7th foul, an automatic 2 pts is awarded.
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Posted on: Thu, 07/16/2015 - 7:47am #1001321

holefillers1
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What if all the players who can’t hit free throws take extra time to improve their %. I know, I know, it’s a way-out-there concept.
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- Posted on: Thu, 07/16/2015 - 7:29pm #1001499
  
  daggers818
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  I really do believe they practice to hit their free throws. Just saw a posting where DeAndre Jordan didn’t leave the gym until me MADE 1000 free throws. I mean he’s trying, but it’s just not in his game to be a decent shooter so why penalize him for that?
  I’ll be provocative and ask the forum to consider the "fairness" of making poor free-throw shooters make free-throws with the intentional foul. I’m not rying to make an excuse, but the reality is that the vast majority are centers whose game is nearly always near the basket, thus shooting from distance is not really their game — fundamental or not. It’s a bit akin to making someone like Chris Paul earn his foul points by making him reverse slam — a fairly "fundamental" play for a center but not so much for small guard. These are not plays where the player is even involved in the play at all. Whether my idea is right or not, it just needs to change as the strategy has become a joke.
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- Posted on: Thu, 07/16/2015 - 7:29pm #1001643
  
  daggers818
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  I really do believe they practice to hit their free throws. Just saw a posting where DeAndre Jordan didn’t leave the gym until me MADE 1000 free throws. I mean he’s trying, but it’s just not in his game to be a decent shooter so why penalize him for that?
  I’ll be provocative and ask the forum to consider the "fairness" of making poor free-throw shooters make free-throws with the intentional foul. I’m not rying to make an excuse, but the reality is that the vast majority are centers whose game is nearly always near the basket, thus shooting from distance is not really their game — fundamental or not. It’s a bit akin to making someone like Chris Paul earn his foul points by making him reverse slam — a fairly "fundamental" play for a center but not so much for small guard. These are not plays where the player is even involved in the play at all. Whether my idea is right or not, it just needs to change as the strategy has become a joke.
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/17/2015 - 1:12am #1001551
  
  sitlbito
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  The biggest problem to me,at least it looks like,is not that they don’t work on it NOW. But that they didn’t practice it back in high school,or didn’t really care back then,because they were dunking on everyone.
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/17/2015 - 1:12am #1001695
  
  sitlbito
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  The biggest problem to me,at least it looks like,is not that they don’t work on it NOW. But that they didn’t practice it back in high school,or didn’t really care back then,because they were dunking on everyone.
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Posted on: Thu, 07/16/2015 - 7:47am #1001465

holefillers1
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What if all the players who can’t hit free throws take extra time to improve their %. I know, I know, it’s a way-out-there concept.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/17/2015 - 4:29am #1001578

The Q
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The National Federation for High School rules has this solved with one single rule.
And the NBA claims they can’t figure out a good solution.
Gimme a break.

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Posted on: Fri, 07/17/2015 - 4:29am #1001721

The Q
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The National Federation for High School rules has this solved with one single rule.
And the NBA claims they can’t figure out a good solution.
Gimme a break.

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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 1:02am #1006399

williama
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Even worse would be somehow the player makes all three free throws causing the hack a shaq strategy to backfire and stop being a thing. hack-free.com
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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 1:02am #1006259

williama
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Even worse would be somehow the player makes all three free throws causing the hack a shaq strategy to backfire and stop being a thing. hack-free.com
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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 4:22am #1006403

cjw
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How about they learn how to make a damn free throw
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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 4:22am #1006263

cjw
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How about they learn how to make a damn free throw
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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 8:26am #1006434

King Calucha
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I’ve got a better solution. Those 4-5 players who are affected by intentional fouls: Start hitting your free throws.

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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 8:26am #1006293

King Calucha
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I’ve got a better solution. Those 4-5 players who are affected by intentional fouls: Start hitting your free throws.

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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 11:16am #1006445

Robb_C
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I have a Solution.. You gotta send these big men that can’t shoot free throws to the best free throw doctor money can buy… His name is Doctor Wood aka the bench.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/08/2015 - 11:16am #1006305

Robb_C
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I have a Solution.. You gotta send these big men that can’t shoot free throws to the best free throw doctor money can buy… His name is Doctor Wood aka the bench.
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