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  • #56665
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    gforce03
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    Is no secret that Boston wants to pull off the Kevin Love trade with the assets they have and there are reports saying Bos may end up trading Rondo if they are not able to get Love and goes into rebuild mode with their picks this year.

    What if we turn this around? Will Minny be able to keep Love if they attempt to make him happy by making a good trade?

    A deal like this maybe:(?)

    Rondo+Olynyk+17th pick

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    Rubio+Dieng+Shved+Chase+13th pick+(1or2 2nd round picks?)

    I’m almost tempted to find some way to include Muhammad in the trade, but Flip Saunders may actually use him in their rotation…what do you guys think? possible? bad trade? open to any comments!

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #924966
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    gforce03
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    comments will be appreciated if you dislike/like this!

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  • #924836
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    gforce03
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    comments will be appreciated if you dislike/like this!

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  • #924964
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    FearTheStache
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    If you could give me one kind of sensible reason the Celtics would do this, I would be very impressed.

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  • #924834
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    FearTheStache
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    If you could give me one kind of sensible reason the Celtics would do this, I would be very impressed.

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  • #924968
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    FearTheStache
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     So the Celtics are giving away last year’s 1st round pick and their All-star, franchise-face player to move four spots up in the mid teens, and get the worst shooting PG of all time, a servicable center and expensive role players? I think not.

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  • #924838
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    FearTheStache
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     So the Celtics are giving away last year’s 1st round pick and their All-star, franchise-face player to move four spots up in the mid teens, and get the worst shooting PG of all time, a servicable center and expensive role players? I think not.

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  • #924972
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    gforce03
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    like I said, I was trying to include Muhammad in this trade so it will look like this:

    Rondo+17th

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    Rubio+Dieng+Muhammad+Chase(just to make the salary works, can be Barea or Brewer as well)+13th+2nd rounders

    what do you think about this Stache?

    this proposal was made under the assumption of Minny pursuing Rondo to keep Love happy in town and Bos was not able to offer enough to impress Minny……

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #924842
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    gforce03
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    like I said, I was trying to include Muhammad in this trade so it will look like this:

    Rondo+17th

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    Rubio+Dieng+Muhammad+Chase(just to make the salary works, can be Barea or Brewer as well)+13th+2nd rounders

    what do you think about this Stache?

    this proposal was made under the assumption of Minny pursuing Rondo to keep Love happy in town and Bos was not able to offer enough to impress Minny……

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #924979
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      FearTheStache
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       I get that Minnesota wants to make Kevin Love happy. But what makes you think the Celtics are trying to give away Rondo for glorified crap?

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    • #924850
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      FearTheStache
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       I get that Minnesota wants to make Kevin Love happy. But what makes you think the Celtics are trying to give away Rondo for glorified crap?

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  • #924978
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    FearTheStache
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    If Rondo is getting traded, its for either a top 10 pick, a high potential, above average player or both. I’m not even sure if Rubio is above average for his position. Either you are a huge timberwolves fan or for some reason you hate the Celtics.

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  • #924848
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    FearTheStache
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    If Rondo is getting traded, its for either a top 10 pick, a high potential, above average player or both. I’m not even sure if Rubio is above average for his position. Either you are a huge timberwolves fan or for some reason you hate the Celtics.

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  • #924983
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    celtics1982
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    First you need to get the notion that the Celtics would trade Rondo and a first out of your head, second why would they want Rubio?

    Trade would look something like this;

    Rondo for Dieng, Muhammad, Chase, 13th pick and all three of your second round picks.  That’s just a starting point!!  Danny might want you to take back a bad contract like Gerald Wallace and you keep that second round picks.

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  • #924854
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    celtics1982
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    First you need to get the notion that the Celtics would trade Rondo and a first out of your head, second why would they want Rubio?

    Trade would look something like this;

    Rondo for Dieng, Muhammad, Chase, 13th pick and all three of your second round picks.  That’s just a starting point!!  Danny might want you to take back a bad contract like Gerald Wallace and you keep that second round picks.

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  • #924995
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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     Dieng is going to be a star in this league… in 3 yrs he would be the best player in this trade.  A player doesn’t accidently get a 20/20 game against Dwight Howard.

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  • #924866
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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     Dieng is going to be a star in this league… in 3 yrs he would be the best player in this trade.  A player doesn’t accidently get a 20/20 game against Dwight Howard.

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  • #925014
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    celtics1982
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    He won’t be a star and he won’t ever reach top 5 status at center.  Rondo is a top 5 pg, people debate it, but he’s in the conversation. If he ever gets traded to Minny fans will see how good he is.  I’m thinking Dieng is solid starting center maybe starting next year.  You understand he only scored 20 points in one other game all year?  His fg percentages was below 50 percent, that’s not good for a Center.  He’s already 24, not like he’s some raw prospect that’s 19.  What I see is a rim protecting center that will rebound very well and give you like 12 points on a good team.  I like him, he’s the reason I would be willing to take such a low pick for Rondo.  The real trade is Rondo for Dieng and the 13th.  The rest is filler and doesn’t really matter.  No Muhammad ok, No second round picks ok, No Dieng no deal.

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  • #924885
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    celtics1982
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    He won’t be a star and he won’t ever reach top 5 status at center.  Rondo is a top 5 pg, people debate it, but he’s in the conversation. If he ever gets traded to Minny fans will see how good he is.  I’m thinking Dieng is solid starting center maybe starting next year.  You understand he only scored 20 points in one other game all year?  His fg percentages was below 50 percent, that’s not good for a Center.  He’s already 24, not like he’s some raw prospect that’s 19.  What I see is a rim protecting center that will rebound very well and give you like 12 points on a good team.  I like him, he’s the reason I would be willing to take such a low pick for Rondo.  The real trade is Rondo for Dieng and the 13th.  The rest is filler and doesn’t really matter.  No Muhammad ok, No second round picks ok, No Dieng no deal.

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  • #925038
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    FearTheStache
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     I still would never do that deal. His ceiling is Omer Asik. WOuld you trade Rondo for Asik and the 13th pick?

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  • #924909
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    FearTheStache
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     I still would never do that deal. His ceiling is Omer Asik. WOuld you trade Rondo for Asik and the 13th pick?

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  • #925050
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    celtics1982
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    Yes if Wolves won’t trade Love.  13th pick in a very deep draft and a 24 year old Omer Asik on a rookie deal that is better offensively.  I’m sure Danny would get Minny to throw in some more pieces like young players or second round picks to make the trade look better.

    What do you think we can get for Rondo?

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  • #924921
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    celtics1982
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    Yes if Wolves won’t trade Love.  13th pick in a very deep draft and a 24 year old Omer Asik on a rookie deal that is better offensively.  I’m sure Danny would get Minny to throw in some more pieces like young players or second round picks to make the trade look better.

    What do you think we can get for Rondo?

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  • #925056
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    FearTheStache
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     Ben McLemore, the Kings 8th pick in this draft and maybe next year’s first. But that’s a big maybe.

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  • #924927
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    FearTheStache
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     Ben McLemore, the Kings 8th pick in this draft and maybe next year’s first. But that’s a big maybe.

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  • #924935
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    FearTheStache
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     I mean if they’re gonna trade Rondo, a top 20 player at least, with a VERY reasonable contract, they’d want more than that. If you were the Celtics GM and made that trade, you would be fired immediately. Why are you forcing Rondo to the Wolves? There are 28 other teams.

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  • #925064
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    FearTheStache
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     I mean if they’re gonna trade Rondo, a top 20 player at least, with a VERY reasonable contract, they’d want more than that. If you were the Celtics GM and made that trade, you would be fired immediately. Why are you forcing Rondo to the Wolves? There are 28 other teams.

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  • #924941
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    celtics1982
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    Nice trade idea, but its reported Rondo has said he won’t resign and thus killed the deal last year.  I also don’t think the Kings would give up that much.  Now if we could make that trade sure why not, I just don’t think a trade like that is out there for Rondo.  Maybe new Owners take the risk that Rondo walks and still trade for him, who knows. 

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  • #925070
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    Nice trade idea, but its reported Rondo has said he won’t resign and thus killed the deal last year.  I also don’t think the Kings would give up that much.  Now if we could make that trade sure why not, I just don’t think a trade like that is out there for Rondo.  Maybe new Owners take the risk that Rondo walks and still trade for him, who knows. 

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  • #924945
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    FearTheStache
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     I mean, the kings were willing to do the same with Kevin Love…

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  • #925074
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    FearTheStache
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     I mean, the kings were willing to do the same with Kevin Love…

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  • #924951
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    celtics1982
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    Rondo is no Kevin Love!

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  • #925080
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    celtics1982
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    Rondo is no Kevin Love!

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  • #924957
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    FearTheStache
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     You say that like Rondo is some average PG. This is an elite point guard. Arguably the best defensive and passing point guards in the game. NBA Champion. 2x assist leader. 2x steal leader. 2x all defensive team. 2x 2nd all defensive team. 

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  • #925086
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    FearTheStache
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     You say that like Rondo is some average PG. This is an elite point guard. Arguably the best defensive and passing point guards in the game. NBA Champion. 2x assist leader. 2x steal leader. 2x all defensive team. 2x 2nd all defensive team. 

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  • #925043
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     This Wolves offer has more value then what was discussed with Golden State for Kevin Love.  Rondo is an excellent point guard but there are far more excellent point guards than there are Kevin Love type power forwards.

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  • #925173
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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     This Wolves offer has more value then what was discussed with Golden State for Kevin Love.  Rondo is an excellent point guard but there are far more excellent point guards than there are Kevin Love type power forwards.

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  • #925047
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    celtics1982
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    I’m a huge Rondo fan, but Kevin love is a way better player.  You risk a lot more to get a special player like Love.  Rondo is maybe a top 5 point Guard in this league, Love is maybe a top 5 player.  Rondo is something like a top 25 to 35 player in this league.   

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  • #925177
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    celtics1982
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    I’m a huge Rondo fan, but Kevin love is a way better player.  You risk a lot more to get a special player like Love.  Rondo is maybe a top 5 point Guard in this league, Love is maybe a top 5 player.  Rondo is something like a top 25 to 35 player in this league.   

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