Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker

 Wiggins isn’t supposed to be in HS.  2013 was his original class.

 Wiggins isn’t supposed to be in HS.  2013 was his original class.

 I think every agrees that Parker is the better play right now, what exactly are you trying to argue with this post? Not all GM’s draft the better college player #1, guys with more upside usually go #1. If what your implying is the case than guys like Morrison and Reddick would of went #1 as they were better college players than their counter-parts.

 I think every agrees that Parker is the better play right now, what exactly are you trying to argue with this post? Not all GM’s draft the better college player #1, guys with more upside usually go #1. If what your implying is the case than guys like Morrison and Reddick would of went #1 as they were better college players than their counter-parts.

 I think everyone believes Parker is the better player right now. People argue that Wiggins is still the #1 pick since he has more potential.

 I think everyone believes Parker is the better player right now. People argue that Wiggins is still the #1 pick since he has more potential.

I think people are confusing the best player versus who goes #1 in the draft.  They are definitely not the same thing.  As we have seen for years who goes #1 overall depends partially on the needs of the team picking.  Think the Cavs might have taken Mclemore last summer versus Bennett but could not because they took Waiters the year before?

Lets just enjoy these two play.  They are fun to watch and we have a LONG way to go to the draft.

I think people are confusing the best player versus who goes #1 in the draft.  They are definitely not the same thing.  As we have seen for years who goes #1 overall depends partially on the needs of the team picking.  Think the Cavs might have taken Mclemore last summer versus Bennett but could not because they took Waiters the year before?

Lets just enjoy these two play.  They are fun to watch and we have a LONG way to go to the draft.

 ^ And that’s why the Cavs suck, for reasons like that. No reason not to draft McLemore, Waiters isn’t a good enough player to not draft someone at the same position.

 ^ And that’s why the Cavs suck, for reasons like that. No reason not to draft McLemore, Waiters isn’t a good enough player to not draft someone at the same position.

Do we really need to have a thread about this guys everyday? Why don’t we get an "Official Wiggins/Randle/Parker thread"? It’s getting a bit annoying.

Do we really need to have a thread about this guys everyday? Why don’t we get an "Official Wiggins/Randle/Parker thread"? It’s getting a bit annoying.

 Here is how everyone should look at this Parker Vs Wiggins Debate.

Remember 2007!!

Kevin Durant putting up huge numbers

Greg Oden putting up good numbers but nothing that makes your jaw drop Ala Kevin Durant.

The potential was with both players but Oden had the sex appeal of Defensive Center with huge potential.

While Durant still had the sex appeal but thought he would get banged up

Turn this into Wiggins and Parker

Parker is the scorer putting up huge numbers but people are afraid of who he can guard in the NBA

Wiggins has the sex appeal of developing into another Kobe.  Defensive stopper, takes on the challenges.  still a beautiful stroke but needs work and refinement Ala Oden.

Just something to sip on in the mean time. 

 Here is how everyone should look at this Parker Vs Wiggins Debate.

Remember 2007!!

Kevin Durant putting up huge numbers

Greg Oden putting up good numbers but nothing that makes your jaw drop Ala Kevin Durant.

The potential was with both players but Oden had the sex appeal of Defensive Center with huge potential.

While Durant still had the sex appeal but thought he would get banged up

Turn this into Wiggins and Parker

Parker is the scorer putting up huge numbers but people are afraid of who he can guard in the NBA

Wiggins has the sex appeal of developing into another Kobe.  Defensive stopper, takes on the challenges.  still a beautiful stroke but needs work and refinement Ala Oden.

Just something to sip on in the mean time. 

 that argument holds little weight as if Oden didn’t get hurt he might have been just as good as Durant is now.

 that argument holds little weight as if Oden didn’t get hurt he might have been just as good as Durant is now.

 Thats not what I’m saying. Im talking about if Durant and Oden where is college right now and about to come out it is the same type of debate that is being brought up about Wiggins and Parker.  

We have no idea what Wiggins work ethic is like.  Why is everyone pointing this out.  This confuses me.  In the words of Kobe…You wasnt with him shooting in the gym!!!

The kid requested and disobeyed Self during the Duke game and guarded Parker because he was pissed Self didnt trust him with foul trouble.  read the articles.  Self explains it, Sports center explained.  

 Thats not what I’m saying. Im talking about if Durant and Oden where is college right now and about to come out it is the same type of debate that is being brought up about Wiggins and Parker.  

We have no idea what Wiggins work ethic is like.  Why is everyone pointing this out.  This confuses me.  In the words of Kobe…You wasnt with him shooting in the gym!!!

The kid requested and disobeyed Self during the Duke game and guarded Parker because he was pissed Self didnt trust him with foul trouble.  read the articles.  Self explains it, Sports center explained.  

If Jabari Parker were built like LeBron James or Paul George then he would be a lock for the top pick.

Some think that Parker looks a bit doughy.  If he gains muscle and works on his explosion then he should be the top pick.  He needs to slim down AND gain muscle mass at the same time. 

Jabari Parker has the complete package.  If he maximizes his time in the gym then he should be the top pick.

If Jabari Parker were built like LeBron James or Paul George then he would be a lock for the top pick.

Some think that Parker looks a bit doughy.  If he gains muscle and works on his explosion then he should be the top pick.  He needs to slim down AND gain muscle mass at the same time. 

Jabari Parker has the complete package.  If he maximizes his time in the gym then he should be the top pick.

 Memphis Madness,

There is a thing called Genetics. That is as athletic as you are going to see from Parker.

People are built with certain genetic codes that allow them to onyl reach a certain level of fitness performance.  One can not simply just ohh improve explosiveness. Doing plyometrics..wont do anything.  He plays Basketball 24/7 every motion you see in basketball is plyometrics.  

This is why Lebron James hasn’t improved his "Explosiveness" since he entered the league. 

GENETICS MEMPHIS! Read about it! Learn it, or you sound weird when you refer to every prospect as saying he needs to work on his explosiveness

 Memphis Madness,

There is a thing called Genetics. That is as athletic as you are going to see from Parker.

People are built with certain genetic codes that allow them to onyl reach a certain level of fitness performance.  One can not simply just ohh improve explosiveness. Doing plyometrics..wont do anything.  He plays Basketball 24/7 every motion you see in basketball is plyometrics.  

This is why Lebron James hasn’t improved his "Explosiveness" since he entered the league. 

GENETICS MEMPHIS! Read about it! Learn it, or you sound weird when you refer to every prospect as saying he needs to work on his explosiveness

 its all risk reward jabari and randle are the safer picks no one is going to say that gm is crazy for picking either. They are more polished more nba ready. the scary part about that is, if wiggins reaches his potential becomes good shooter, good ball handler, and fully develops his game and body you made wrong decision. thats the real question do you play safe or go for it. because if you are the gm that picks other guy and wiggins becomes a multi title winning generational player, its like picking carmelo over lebron. even as good as carmelo is lebron is the one.

 its all risk reward jabari and randle are the safer picks no one is going to say that gm is crazy for picking either. They are more polished more nba ready. the scary part about that is, if wiggins reaches his potential becomes good shooter, good ball handler, and fully develops his game and body you made wrong decision. thats the real question do you play safe or go for it. because if you are the gm that picks other guy and wiggins becomes a multi title winning generational player, its like picking carmelo over lebron. even as good as carmelo is lebron is the one.

 I know one thing, if the Utah Jazz win that lottery, there ain’t no damn doubt Jabari Parker is going number 1. 

 I know one thing, if the Utah Jazz win that lottery, there ain’t no damn doubt Jabari Parker is going number 1. 

 I said from the start Randle and Parker would have better numbers than Wiggins.  Always thought Wiggins was a 16 and 7 guy in college while Parker and Randle would have big numbers.  I’m still taking Wiggins #1. I’m not jumping off the bandwagon because Kansas runs an offense and doesn’t utilize Wiggins in the way Duke and Kentucky showcase Parker and Randle. I think all 3 are studs and future multiple all stars but I think Wiggins can be better than the other 2. And in terms of team, I think clearly Kansas is the best and putting Andrew on the block and running offense like a normal team will benefit Wiggins. He’s still learning the game. 

 I said from the start Randle and Parker would have better numbers than Wiggins.  Always thought Wiggins was a 16 and 7 guy in college while Parker and Randle would have big numbers.  I’m still taking Wiggins #1. I’m not jumping off the bandwagon because Kansas runs an offense and doesn’t utilize Wiggins in the way Duke and Kentucky showcase Parker and Randle. I think all 3 are studs and future multiple all stars but I think Wiggins can be better than the other 2. And in terms of team, I think clearly Kansas is the best and putting Andrew on the block and running offense like a normal team will benefit Wiggins. He’s still learning the game. 

 All I know is that I got intense amount of negs for saying stuff that is being talked about in respect of the top 3 prospects.

Wiggins defense right now puts him ahead of Jabari Parker. I think he projects as a top SG defender in the NBA, almost guaranteed. At 6’7 with huge wingspan and extreme athleticism, not just a runner/ jumper, the dude is like a feather off his feet which gives him great lateral quickness, he will be able to lock up all these combo guards of the NBA.

… And i liked Jabari here more than most people, I said I wouldn’t be surprised if he went #1 preseason and got negged. He is and always has been clear cut better than Julius Randle, Marcus Smart, Dante Exum, Embiid, and whoever these professional scouts had in front of him. Jabari does not go past 2.

 All I know is that I got intense amount of negs for saying stuff that is being talked about in respect of the top 3 prospects.

Wiggins defense right now puts him ahead of Jabari Parker. I think he projects as a top SG defender in the NBA, almost guaranteed. At 6’7 with huge wingspan and extreme athleticism, not just a runner/ jumper, the dude is like a feather off his feet which gives him great lateral quickness, he will be able to lock up all these combo guards of the NBA.

… And i liked Jabari here more than most people, I said I wouldn’t be surprised if he went #1 preseason and got negged. He is and always has been clear cut better than Julius Randle, Marcus Smart, Dante Exum, Embiid, and whoever these professional scouts had in front of him. Jabari does not go past 2.

 this word is thrown around a lot in terms of wiggins but – what exactly makes him have more "potential" than parker? just because he’s a better athlete? Parker’s game is so smooth and near complete already, I have no doubts he could play in an NBA game today and score at least 15 on good percentages and peripheral stats.

so again – why does Wiggins have more potential?

 this word is thrown around a lot in terms of wiggins but – what exactly makes him have more "potential" than parker? just because he’s a better athlete? Parker’s game is so smooth and near complete already, I have no doubts he could play in an NBA game today and score at least 15 on good percentages and peripheral stats.

so again – why does Wiggins have more potential?