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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 11:18am #38547

JoeWolf1
This is Part 2 of my game in which I post combine numbers from 10 players from past drafts and have you rank them 1-10 based only by their physical attributes.
The PF position is one of the ones I find the strangest as to what is "ideal size". It seems any player coming into the league under 6’10” is undersized, but most of the guys having success in the league at the PF position at that position are 6’8” or 6’9”. Here are the players…
PF A. Ht Barefoot(6’8.5”) Wt.(233) Wingspan(7’1.75”) Max Vert(35.5) Bench(12) 3/4 sprint (3.25)
PF B. Ht Barefoot(6’8.25”) Wt.(218) Wingspan(7’1”) Max Vert(34.5) Bench(20) 3/4 sprint (3.16)
PF C. Ht Barefoot(6’6.25”) Wt.(246) Wingspan(7’2.5”) Max Vert(33) Bench(18) 3/4 sprint (3.24)
PF D. Ht Barefoot(6’7.25”) Wt.(217) Wingspan(7’3”) Max Vert (39.5) Bench(8) 3/4 sprint (3.20)
PF E. Ht Barefoot(6’10”) Wt.(230) Wingspan(7’0.5”) Max Vert (30) Bench (9) 3/4 sprint (3.40)
PF F. Ht Barefoot(6’8.75”) Wt(241) Wingspan(6’9.75”) Max Vert(30.5) Bench(14) 3/4 sprint (3.47)
PF G. Ht Barefoot(6’8.25”) Wt(271) Wingspan(6’10.5") Max Vert(36.5) Bench(21) 3/4 sprint (3.16)
PF H. Ht Barefoot(6’7.75”) Wt(255) Wingspan(6’11.25”) Max Vert(35) Bench(18) 3/4 sprint (3.22)
PF I. Ht Barefoot(6’10.75”) Wt(233) Wingspan(6’10.75”) Max Vert (37.5) Bench(15) 3/4 sprint (3.29)
PF J. Ht Barefoot(6’8.25”) Wt(217) Wingspan(7’1.5”) Max Vert (32.5) Bench (12) 3/4 sprint (3.29)

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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 11:40am #662632

TRC1991
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Player I has some serious size and athleticism but his wingspan sucks (his numbers look kinda like Jan Vesely)
But I’ll take player A… 6’10” 233, above average wingspan, vert, bench and pretty fast as well
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 11:41am #662633

dmo21
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D
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 12:05pm #662640

Wahoo757
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1. A
2. B
3. D
4. G
5. I
6. H
7. C
8. J
9. E
10. F
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 1:07pm #662668

dede21
the 5 best PF’s in the game are all 6’10+ barefoot
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- Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 1:29pm #662684
  
  BruinSteve
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  Kevin love is 6’7.75 barefoot.
  
  http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kevin-Love-1062/
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  - Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:21pm #662724
    
    FearTheStache
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    That’s a pre-draft measurement. When he was 19/20, so he most likely has grown
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 1:16pm #662679

JoeWolf1
@dede21,
False
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 1:25pm #662687

JoeWolf1
BruinSteve!!! Comon’! haha
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 1:53pm #662705

Tha King2121
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B, Id take him a combo of speed and strenght. Hopefully this isnt one of the players that didn’t make the leage lol…and hopefully he has a mid-range
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 1:54pm #662711

dede21
Kevin Love is #6, unless you count KG at C but really JO is the center just hurt.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:04pm #662713

patty-mills
Isnt trolling so fun?
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:11pm #662719

IndianaBasketball
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I’m scared of these 6-8 of 6-9 skinny and long athletic power forwards… I don’t want to get Stromile Swift, Tyrus Thomas, Anthony Randolph or Brendan Wright.
I’d take Kenneth Farried though.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:13pm #662720

IndianaBasketball
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@dede21
Who are your top five? Dirk, KG and who else?
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:19pm #662722

Johnny Chill
Is Karl Malone on that list?

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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:46pm #662740

dede21
Duncan, Gasol, Aldridge in no order
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:56pm #662741

doubledribbler
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My guess in this order is…
1. G
2. H
3. C
4. B
5. I
6. A
7. D
8. F
9. J
10. E
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:57pm #662742

IndianaBasketball
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Duncan, KG, Dirk, Aldridge and Gasol.
I’d have said Duncan and KG as of a few years or so ago, but I can’t be mad at your top five.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 2:59pm #662745

Hale
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Who is G supposed to be? He’s a tank (271 lbs, 21 reps on bench) and has a great vert with the fastest time of anyone in the 3/4 court sprint. Give me that guy if we are just using measurables.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:03pm #662747

dede21
G is Kevin Love but he has dropped weight since coming out
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:03pm #662748

aamir543
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^You stole the words out of my mouth, I was thinking the exact same thing, I would’ve said DeMarcus Cousins but then I saw the height, but he has the perfect combination of speed, quickness, and strength, but whoever he is, damn, the wieght confuses me too, I have no clue who it could be.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:20pm #662753

mosdef
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I want my PFs to have wingspans of 7feet or more. I is a TRex and since we all know now that Joe Wolf was a PG, we know it isnt him
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:23pm #662764

Wahoo757
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F is not Kevin Love, H is.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:25pm #662758

TallmanNYC
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I’m pretty sure G is K. Love. He was carrying a little baby fat on him coming out of college. I never would have guessed that he would put up that kind of numbers on the bench though. It could also be Griffin. He and Love put up very similar combine numbers and they are almost exactly the same height. The biggest difference (and it is a huge difference) is that Griffin’s no step jump was 32" which is almost as high as max vert. No step is more useful because a player rarely gets a chance to take a running full speed jump except on a fast break.
K. Love dropped some weight once getting into the league and then dropped a ton this summer. Now I think he is playing at 240. You have to think that with dropping 30 pounds his vertical has gone up. It always frustrates me when folks say he can’t jump, since he jumps just fine for a big guy.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:26pm #662759

mosdef
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though I do like long wingspans for my PFs, this will probably show like it did with the PGs that just cuz you measure out doesnt mean you can play basketball
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:28pm #662768

Hale
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Kevin Love is H, not G.
I’ve never even heard of the guy who actually is G.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:29pm #662765

mosdef
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did anyone else add the 1.5" for shoes in their head? That makes player I even worse cuz now he teller then wingspan. Im hoping it isnt Dirk
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:29pm #662773

Hale
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I can assure you as I just checked, that G is not Kevin Love. Love is H, and G is some guy from the 2001 draft that I’ve never heard of.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:33pm #662770

aamir543
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Wait, are you guys sure G is Love? I considered him for a minute, but then I looked at the weight and didn’t realize those were combine mearsurements. But I could definatly see it with the other stats, but boy has he lost weight if that is him, I knew he lost 25 this off-season, but he probably lost some prior to this off-season as well.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:35pm #662774

aamir543
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Wow, most people had Love in their bottom four, except one had him at second. Goes to show that combine stats don’t tell the whole story. I just depend on the eye test, which is how I got semi-sold on Paul George.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:41pm #662779

aamir543
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Alton Ford I see, never heard of him myself, a D-League guy, drafted 50th in the draft, career averages of 2.5 and 1.7.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 3:42pm #662780

mosdef
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stop looking at the answer sheet.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 4:10pm #662788

JoeWolf1
Okay, there’s been some answers leaking out on this one, but here is the key.
A. Amare Stoudamire
B. Chris Wilcox
C. Brandon Bass
D. Tyrus Thomas
E. Jared Jeffries
F. Brian Scalabrine
G. Alton Ford
H. Kevin Love
I. Jason Smith
J. Lee Benson
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 4:27pm #662793

JoeWolf1
Also, dede21, Epke Udoh is 6’8.75” barefoot and he’s the best PF in the game according to you.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 4:35pm #662796

Wahoo757
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Scalabrine=workout warrior, and his numbers prove that.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2012 - 5:22pm #662814

mosdef
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to be fair, I ranked Bass 3rd and from where he was selected in the 2nd round, that was a good pick,
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Posted on: Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:08am #663030

dede21
Udoh is really a 5 though, plus that is what the numbers said but Gasol is the best for now
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Posted on: Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:14am #663034

dede21
When Udoh has started in the NBA it has always been at the 5, even though he played PF in college because they had BIG Lomers
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