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  • #38456
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    surve
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     Who are some players that played at an All-Star level in their careers but NEVER made an All-Star appearance?

    Lets make this a 2-year All-Star level of play minimum.   For instance, Kyle Lowry would not count because this is his first year playing at an All-Star level.  However, Josh Smith does count so I will put him down.

    Thoughts? (Please site reasons)

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  • #661551
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    Hale
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     I tried but I couldn’t think of anyone, closest I got was Glenn Robinson, but he made 2.

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  • #661557
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    Hale
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    Haha uhh well:

    1) He slipped my mind

    2) The West guards are usually too loaded with better players then him

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  • #661549
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    Mike Bibby use to be really good back in the Sacremento Kings days.  Dude was a 20 pts 7 ast machine.  I don’t know what is a bigger injustice, Bibby never making an allstar game, or that Kings team never making an NBA final.

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  • #661552
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     yeah, good call on Bibby, I remember him playing and thinking that he had to be an All-Star back then but he wasnt.  when you say it now, it still doesnt seem as if he never made it….he was really good.

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  • #661553
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     well, Monta Ellis does count, I was waiting for his supporters to come out of the woodworks.  perhaps you dont feel he was deserving a couple of years?

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  • #661560
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     "2) The West guards are usually too loaded with better players then him"

    well thats a good reason to site.  thats usually the #1 thing that keeps All-Star level players out of the game.  

    I was going to say Doc Rivers but had to go back and double check and he did make the All-Star team once….so maybe this question isnt as easy as I thought.

    for the record….Ellis’ team success have held him off too….Josh Smith is truly one I think has been deserving for a while.

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  • #661562
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    cookielogic
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    going back some…derek harper and rod strickland

     

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  • #661567
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    steviechillz
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     mwalling2117 made me thing about how good those Kings team’s were and how under represented their teams were in the all star games.  I’d say Vlade Divac could have definitely been considered more than once.  Vlade actually made the team one year, but was an injury execption put in by stern…i felt like he shoulda been given more consideration.  Stephen Jackson during the years at golden state averaged about 20, 4, and 5.  Al Jefferson during his latter years for celtics averaged 20+ 11rebs and 2 blocks, probably should have made one all star team to be honest.  Jason Williams aka White Chocolate would have been spectacular to see at an all star game.  Kevin Martin for the rockets use to average 25 pts and 3 rebs 3 assists while he was at Sac-Town.    Toni Kukoc.  Jason Terry as one of the best sixth man this game has seen.  

     

    I also feel like Eric Gordon and Monta Ellis will always play at the All Start type level but will probably never make an all star team.  

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  • #661571
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    Moon River
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    Lamar Odom.  The timing is not great to be discussing him as an all-star, but the guy has played a very high level for a number of year and I think he was all stat worthy in 2008-2009 season and could also argue his rookie season in 1999-2000 when he averaged 16.6 points 7.8 rebounds and 4.2 assists.

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  • #661572
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    Nbanflguy
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    I dont know if he is necessary an all star type player, but Jason Terry has never made an all star game.

    Rudy Gay, Al Jefferson, Rod Strickland, to name a few

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  • #661574
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    RICO 1981
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    Rudy gay has been balling strong the last three years without a even an hi from allstar voters

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  • #661576
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    surve
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     yes, I believe Terry had some All-Star worthy years but I think that he never made it because its rare that a 6th man will get a spot.  

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  • #661577
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     Lowry was already really good last year, especially with defense included. I think he should count. 

    I was absolutely right when I said before that draft that he’d be better than Conley. 🙂

     

    I dont’ think Kevin martin has ever made an All-star game either. 

     

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  • #661581
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    ballaj334
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    cant really think of someone but sam cassel only playing in one is pretty crazy! monta ellis… toni kukoc was really good and didnt make one

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  • #661586
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    ballaj334
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    this site is a joke people ask for peoples opinion on someone who coulda been an all star and i get a negative

     

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  • #661592
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    JoeWolf1

     Bruce Bowen,

    He doesn’t embody everything that goes with the All-Star game.  Big names, flashy passes, high scoring dunk fest, no defense, BUT he was an All-Defensive 1st teamer 5 times in his career, and a 2nd teamer 3 times.  He was a top 10 league defender for close to a decade and 3 time NBA champ, but never made 1 All-Star team.

    He also lead the NBA in 3 point % in 02-03…

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  • #661595
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    Chilbert arenas
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     Jason Richardson, three seasons of 21+ ppg 5+rbs 3+ast 

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  • #661596
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    vmendi123
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     Tyson Chandler

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  • #661598
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    NotHamedHaddadi
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    Yeah Monta is a big snub along with Rudy Gay and Josh Smith

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  • #661603
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    TheArtistPaysthePrice
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    Byron Scott was like a Jason Terry of his day.

    Not so much a snub but Tyson Chandler has proven to be really good at what he does.

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  • #661613
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    Chewy
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    Tony Kukoc

    Tyson Chandler

    Dennis Rodman (?)

    Gerald Wallace

    Lamar Odom

    Bogut (Has injury issues tho)

    Andre Miller

    Rod Strickland

    Derek Harper

     

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  • #661615
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    Afactor4
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     Jamaal Magloire… oh wait

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  • #661623
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    TheArtistPaysthePrice
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    Ron Harper 3 years over 22 ppg and 5 more over 18 ppg.

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  • #661631
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    Jordo
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     Rod strickland made all nba second team and lead the league in assist in 98 with the bullets/wizards and got so mad he said he’d refuse to play if he was selected the next season. Rod got robbed

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  • #661626
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    lisergx
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     JOSH SMITH…anyone should have been a two time all-star by now, I thought he was a definate.

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  • #661627
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    surve
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     Gerald Wallace was an All-Star in 2010….the first ever Bobcat to make it.

    Rodman made it twice….shouldve been more.

    Odom definitely had some All Star caliber years

    You got me with Derek Harper, cant believe he didnt make it, especially with those good Mavs teams.

    Byron Scott couldve easily made it but then that would be the whole Lakers starting lineup because for a few years Magic, Worthy, and Kareem were making it.

     

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  • #661628
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    atlienkev
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    Josh Smith. how a guy as solid a player as he is and as exciting to watch also has never been an All Star is crazy to me. and he can be a monster defensively. its a travesty. despite the boo’s we give him WHENEVER he takes a jumpshot, Josh Smith means a shitload to the franchise our city. all atliens should band together and campaign for Josh for 2013. we got you Smoove. just chill on the jumpers.

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  • #661633
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    TheArtistPaysthePrice
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    Damon Stoudimire

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  • #661649
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    surve
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     I was watching special on the Mavs team and Aguirre and Blackmon were All-Stars but Harper and Perkins were not.  Thinking about it Sam Perkins couldve been a candidate a few times.  Also, Purvis Short played on a bad GSW team, but I think it was the fact that he was competing against some of the greatest scorers of all times.  He avg 28ppg and didnt make it.  Next season, 25.5ppg and still didnt make it.  Below was 1984-85 scoring leaders.

     

    Points Per Game
    1.Bernard King-NYK32.9
    2.Larry Bird*-BOS28.7
    3.Michael Jordan*-CHI28.2
    4.Purvis Short-GSW28.0
    5.Alex English*-DEN27.9

     

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  • #661663
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    jmarg25
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    Corey Maggette had some nice years, though was never spectacular.                                  

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/maggeco01.html#per_game::none

     

     

     

     
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  • #661684
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    Bmore_DC
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     LaMarcus Aldridge

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  • #661687
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    jmarg25
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    Miller has had a consistent career, his best season being 01-02 with 16.5 points and 10.9 assists.

     
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  • #661698
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    Eddie Johnson scored 18,0000 points for his career and never made the all-star team.

    I think Ron Harper and Derek Harper are the biggest old school snubs that I can think of.

    Monta Ellis and Josh Smith are the two current biggies with Rudy Gay being third. Rudy might make it
    next year though.

    It seems like most of the good guys in the Eighties and Nineties made it. Muggsy Bogues is a pretty big (uh, short)
    snub. Never a big scorer but a big assists and steals guy. Not sure he made it.

    I am not sure if Michael Cooper made it either. One of the best defenders of a generation with several titles,
    but he wasn’t a big scorer.

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  • #661703
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    I don’t think that Rony Seikaly made it either. He put up some pretty good stats on a few solid Heat teams (and some bad ones)
    but the East was relatively loaded at center from the late 80’s to mid 90’s.

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  • #661705
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    drew619
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     He’s not the most flashy player but a guy who has always been a 10+ rebound guy and great shot blocker maybe he could have sneaked into 1 or 2 

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  • #661710
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    TRC1991
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    RICHARD JEFFERSON

    2004-2005 AVERAGES OF:

    22.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 apg, 1 spg, 34% 3pt shooting

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  • #661716
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    Hitster
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    Good call on Marcus Canby, he was a DPOY winner but never made an All Star line up due to depth of frontcourt talent.

    Emeka Okafor who as putting up 14/10 during his time at Charlotte might have got recognised if he had done this on a contending team.

    Richard Jefferson was having 20ppg seasons with a contending Nets team so might have been in the mix but they already had Kidd and Carter as All Star locks at the same time.

    Tayshaun Prince was a key part of Detroit’s success between 2003 and 2008 so might have got a one off recognition.

    Jamal Crawford again a good scorer could have maybe sneaked in one year.

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  • #661735
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    fliptonn
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    Good call, its ridiculous that camby never made one. Drazen Pretrovic never made on either sadly. Toni Kukoc.

    Not that he deserved to but its interesting that Hall of Famer, 8 time NBA Champion in 9 years, KC Jones never made the all star team 

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  • #661741
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    Chewy
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    did not know Gerald Wallace got in one. Good for him. I think he deserved to be in atleast for one year.

    Good call with Camby, he definetly should have made it.

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  • #661745
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    marcus camby, but they had iverson and melo for the nuggets in that same year. which was voted by the fans if i remember correctly. also josh smith but they favor on the celtics players

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  • #661847
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    dede21

    Strickland the biggest snub of all time.

     

    Other guys not mentioned Anderson Varejeao, Joakhim Noah, Drazen Petrovic, Orlando Wooldridge

     

    And what is with this Kyle Lowry crap he is whoreshit lost his starting job to Dragic and may never start another game in the NBA.

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  • #661854
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    surve
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     yes, Camby was All Star level for a few years, forgot about that.  

    as for Sam Cassell, he luckily got one, but he shouldve had more.  he avg over 18ppg for 8 different seasons, he made the all-star game with the T-Wolves, but couldve made it when he was with the Bucks, and definitely when he was with the Clips when he led them to the 2nd round of the playoffs….and almost a 50 win season.

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