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  • #3247
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    cyclo
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    6’8″.
    Can you say Michael Beasley?
    Marcus Fizer anyone?

    Don’t be surprised if legit 6’10” Jordan Hill or 6’11” Greg Monroe become the more dominant PFs on the next level.

    So go ahead. Tout Blake Griffin as this franchise player. You were touting Michael Beasely last year also.

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  • #142424
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    joecheck88
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    Blake Griffin is way more athletic than fizer. He jumps higher and is quicker and faster, that translates to todays nba game. paul millsap is getting 15 and 10 with regular minutes. he is only about 6′ 8″ and griffin is more athletic than him. griffin could be a 22 and 12 guy in the league, but at worst he is a 16 and 8 guy which is way better than marcus fizer. As for Beasley, he hasn’t played a whole season yet. If he was getting the minutes Rose and Mayo were, he would be putting up close to 20 points and 6 or 7 rebounds a game. His percentages are decent and he is learning from dwayne wade. Why can’t beasley be a franchise player, he is 20 years old. Monroe may be a good player in the league, but jordan hill is going to be a bust if he is a top 5 pick. he is at best a 15 and 7 rebound guy, which would be good for a team after the number 5 pick.

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    • #142435
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      DanEboy
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      The guy doesn’t even have a year under his belt and people on this site are writing him off already. The guy has shown flashes of the player he is going to be…a stud. People were saying last year at this time that Durant was overrated because his shooting %s were so low. I think he has answered those critics. Beasley will be a 20 & 10 guy i believe.

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  • #142439
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    Pennycents
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    Well if he is 6’8 well then he will have to work a little harder but there are plenty of good NBAers that were 6’8 or so that play or played big like brand and barkley now im not comparing them to him but dont say he cant do it and beasly is not playing big thats a big reason he hasent played as well when your standing out jackin up threes all day you dont rebound and he dosent play like a big anyother way either so thats an unfair comparison and fizer give me a break.

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  • #142454
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    TimberTroll
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    Who cares how tall he is. Wait until we find out how long his standing reach is. You don’t block shots with your head.

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  • #142456
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    tuck243
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    The only player averaging more rebounds and points than Mike Beasley, while playing around the same minutes is Charlie Villanueva…. And he’s only averaging 1 rebound and 3 points more, while playing a additional 3 mins. and STARTING… Mike is a Rookie… I think telling you these facts, you should think about what you are saying!!!

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  • #142457
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    tuck243
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    Blake will be cool… He gets better every year and his game is polished more than Fizers ever was….

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  • #142461
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    LvilleHoops09
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    Where are you getting these reports cyclo? ESPN.com(world wide leader in sports!) has Griff listed at 6’10. He is clearly 2-3 inches taller than his Bro (listed at 6’7″). As for Monroe, he isnt a banger and never will be. he is a finesse guy and i wouldnt be suprised if he saw time at the 3, due to his athleticism and intangibles. Here are some Monroe rebound numbers: 5 boards vs. UL, 3 vs. Tennessee, 4 vs. Marquette, 3 vs. UConn, and only double digit rebounds on 4 occasions. Griff is a Banger/Baller/Gansta and he will compete at a very high level next year, undoubtedly.

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  • #142465
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    butidonthavemoney

    Milsap is only 6-6 or 6-7. Blake Griffen doesn’t need to be as tall as Hill or Monroe to be the better player.

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  • #142469
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    canesboy6
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    point bieng, Height Isn’t everything. If he is only 6’8, which I kinda doubt if anything he is like 6’8 3/4 barefoot which is about 6’10 in shoes anyways, but even If he is a flat 6’8, thats really not that short for a power forward. It’s not tall, but its just about average, especially with his chizzled build he wont have size problems. In college, guys he is bigger than aren’t fast enough to keep up with him. In the pro’s guys bigger than him dont stand a chance. My comparison with him is an Amare like player, but with an all around game geared towards winning. The kid is a winner, will be an allstar several times and has 0 chance of bieng a bust like Fizer. At the absolute worst he would be Kenyon Martin before the injuries, who was starting to look pretty good with Jason Kidd and the Nets and never really was able to hit his peak. Kid is a starter his whole career, bottom line, and probably more. Beasley too, give the poor guy a break he is A ROOKIE, and is a solid contributer on a playoff team. What the hell more could you expect?

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  • #142489
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    cdmPSU17
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    The difference between these two is that Blake Griffin has the drive and will to succeed and become the best player he can, and myself and a lot of others, I’m sure, never really saw that intensity and fire in Beasley. Both have the talent, but the best NBA players actually put in the work to maximize their potential. Regardless of whether Griffin is 6′ 10″ or 6′ 8″, he can be a great NBA player soon.

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  • #142497
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    the game of basketball is going back to shorter power forwards or long/thin athletic forwards, just think the last few paul milsap, chuck smith, brandon bass, jared dudley,leon powe, carlos boozer of the thin athletic ones like tyrus thomas, hakim warrick, josh smith, and darrel arthur

    and look at college with tyler hansbrough, varnado from mississippi state, tasmin mitchell(who could play either forward), dejuan blair, patrick patterson, jeff adrien, trevor booker so……..

    blake griffin at 6’8 will still be better than most of those players except for maybe carlos boozer, josh smith, and i’m still holding out on my hometown kids tyrus thomas and brandon bass-they both have flashes when they consistently get minutes, and another louisiana kid milsap is also a beast

    so blake griffin-rookie year 13 and 7, career 19 and 9

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  • #142498
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    bbalking37
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    I agree with most people in that Blake Griffin will do just fine. Of the numerous short PF’s that have been mentioned I’m surprised no one said Elton Brand. While is definitely a lot thicker than Griffin, it proves that height isn’t everything. If it were, guys like Manute Bol and Shawn Bradley would have been the greatest players ever. There’s a certain point when skill trumps physical stature and I believe Griffin has enough basketball talent to overcome his shortcomings. That said Monroe may turn out to be a better pro than Griffin (Hill will not be I can assure you of that) but at this point in the game it would be wise to take Griffin over him because of the assurance that he will be a solid performer.

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  • #142500
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    yea totally forgot about elton

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  • #142514
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    jorrye24

    Dont write off beasley this fast man, he will be a 20 10 guy next year guaranteed. But dont read too much in the blake grffin size thing, he is a good athlete (even 4 nba standaRDS) with long arms and exceptional strength. He will be a bull in the nba 2…

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  • #142519
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    Henry25
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    Im sick and tired of hearing people talk trash about Blake Griffin, the dude is an absolute animal on the court. He has the intensity, athleticism, and with an improving skill set who cares if he is only 6′ 8” (even though i still think he is a legit 6′ 10”). In case anyone hasn’t noticed, there really aren’t that many huge power forwards anymore nowadays. Blake Griffin is gonna be an absolute stud once he gets to the pros, mark my words. I think he is a mix between Shawn Kemp (pre-drug problems) and Carlos Boozer. I dont know bout ya’ll but ill take that type of player any day. He won’t fail

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  • #142547
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    joecheck88
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    a lot of big power fowards get drafted high, like dwight howard, amare stoudemire, and pau gasol. but guess what they all end up playing center for the most part of their careers. if griffin is 6′ 8″, it only helps him because that will keep him at strictly power forward where he can dominate bigger guys with his speed and athleticism or over power smaller guys on the block.

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  • #142549
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    tbp82
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    I agree with the supporters of Blake Griffin. This guy is an absolute beast he will at least be on Paul Millsaps level when Boozer was out and that is borderline all-star level. With that being said don’t count out Greg Monroe he has the most upside of anyone in this year’s draft. What is scary is that Griffin could be the next Boozer while Monroe turns into the next Chris Bosh. Both the guys are great but right now you got to go with Griffin. Two seasons from now Monroe might make you regret that. Oh one other note I think Hill is a hustle energy type guy nothing more. He can help a good team become great but on a bad lottery team he wouldn’t help at all.

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  • #142687
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    edoom06
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    It still boggles the mind when people throw height out there when talking about a prospect, height is not a deal breaker when it comes to NBA potential. Hakeem the Dream was 6’10” in shoes but dominated in an era when there were legit dominate 7+ footers in the game. Charles Barkley was probably 6’5″ on a good day and was untouchable on the box. Calvin Murphy was 5 foot nuthin and did work back in the day. Wes Unseld 6’8″ going toe to toe with Wilt the Stilt. Joe Dumars was 6’3″ and more than held his own on a nightly basis against the Jordans and Reggie Millers of the NBA (real BIG guards). I could go all day with this but what I’m saying is if your special your special….period. Blake Griffin is special.

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  • #142688
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    edoom06
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    i forgot to throw in one of my all time favorite players Larry “Grand mama” Johnson (before the back went out) 6’7″ and was on his way to being one of the dominate power forwards in the game before the back injury sucked out his explosiveness

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  • #142741
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    ipowers
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    I think that he is a legit 6-9 maybe 6-10 in shoes. His wingspan will be very important. Comparing Greg Monroe and Blake Griffin is ridiculous. They are completely different types of players and bring something different to the table. Charles Brakley was 6-4 3/4 barefoot which is right at 6-6 in shoes, and like I always say, the game is played in shoes, so let’s kill that myth about Barkley. Michael Beasley is fine at 6-8 because he has a much more skilled offensive game than Griffin because he can step out and shoot the long ball, so being 6-8 isn’t necessarily a bad thing for him. Larry Johnson was one of the more overrated players of all time. He was a big strong guy who was a glorified garbage player. All of his buckets came within 5 feet of the basket, which doesn’t suggest much skill level. He later developed a long range game after he lost his explosion, but when he was in his prime he was just a brute inside. If you took 30 pounds off of LJ’s body what was he ?

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  • #142742
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    edoom06
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    Why you bangin on LJ? I said he was one of MY all time favorites not the best in the world or something. I’m sure we all have our favorite players that everyone is not gonna agree on. I just thought the dude was a beast (in his prime) and I liked to watch him do work. As far as Chucky goes he himself says he is closer to 6’5″ than anything else and he says that all the time. My point was lets not get caught up on the height, special players over come that.

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  • #251398
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    arman

    griffin will never have 22 12 season

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  • #251403
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Why you say that? He’s a great rebounder, so averaging 12 isn’t out of the question. He’ll be a 15 point scorer next season. I don’t see why he can’t average 22 eventually.

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  • #251451
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    arman

    he was great rebounder in college, he didnt even play nba game so i dont want to predict crazy numbers before i see him in nba…

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  • #359671
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    dabomb
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    And cyclo says he doesnt go just off measurements?

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  • #359680
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    JNixon
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    Remind me to NEVER listen to what Cyclo says…

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  • #359682
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    dabomb
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    Okay, ill pop up the thread where he said Tyrese Rice, is better than Ty Lawson.

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  • #359698
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    Hoops Maestro
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    Barkley was 6-4 and 3/4, and led the NBA in rebounding.

    It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog. (And no, I’m not endorsing dog fighting.)

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  • #359905
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Has cyclo been right about anything?

    It doesn’t look good for Luke Babbitt.

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  • #359914
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    stanford hoops

    What he say about babbit? All star? I doubt it. But he will be a pretty good player

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  • #359924
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    JoeWolf1

    He also thinks that everyone plays basketball barefoot too. Griffin measured 6’10” in shoes, I tried to tell him Cole Aldrich was 6’11” in shoes and he said it didn’t matter beacuse he measured 6’9” in socks so he was vastly undersized.

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  • #359940
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @stanford hoops

    Try something a little steeper lol. He compared Babbitt to Dirk Nowitzki lol. Said he was a 6′ 9″ Dirk.

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  • #359956
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    idunnonymore
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    blake is 6ft 10in in a game he jumped so high that he hit his head on the backboard blake will be great with his athleticism strength and skill he has.

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  • #359965
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    stanford hoops

    Ouch Dirk. Lol

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  • #360064
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    cyclo
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    Blake Griffin measured 6’8.5″ without shoes.

    Why is that so far off?

    And the original post is from Feb. 2009 when it was reported that Griffin may end being shorter than his listed height.

    Wasn’t there pre-draft camp speculation to that effect?

    People here were touting Blake Griffin as a FRANCHISE PLAYER.

    He wasn’t then and he isn’t now.

    Who thinks Blake Griffin is a franchise player now?

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  • #360074
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    idunnonymore
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    we havent seen him play yet

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  • #360077
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    cyclo
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    Blake Griffin is Carlos Boozer on defense.

    Not much of a defender or shot blocker (1.2 blocks per game in college is pathetic).

    Blocked fewer shots per game in college than Michael Beasley.

    He’s athletic, but his max vertical is 35.5 inches.

    Don’t overhype the guy.

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  • #360081
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    butidonthavemoney

    /

    That was my first post ever on this site.

    Haha

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  • #360089
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    cyclo
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    Still undersized for a guy with a pathetic 28 inch max vertical. That’s less hops than Troy Murphy and Nick Collison.

    Max Vertical:

    Troy Murphy 34.5 inches.
    Nick Collison 33 inches
    Cole Aldrich 28 inches

    Call him 6’10” with shoes if you want, but he’s not 6’11” minus the fake lifts.

    And he was a worse offensive player in college than Joel Pryzbilla and Eric Montross who at least weren’t undersized for the position.

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  • #360096
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    JoeWolf1

    Yeah, he doesn’t have Robert Dozier shot blocking potential…pathetic

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  • #360095
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    cyclo
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    Dirk is 7’0″. His height really helps him get his shot off.

    But if Dik were 6’8″ or 6’9″ would he be as good?

    Nope.

    Think he’d be a player like Babbitt who shares the same offensive skills minus 3-4 inches.

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  • #360100
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    butidonthavemoney

    Aran, can we please get an "Ignore User" feature?

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  • #360106
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    cyclo
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    What does Robert Dozier have to do with this?

    Blake Griffin in college:

    0.8 blocks per game in ’07-08.
    1.2 blocks per game in ’08-09.

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  • #360113
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    cyclo
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    Height without shoes:

    Troy Murphy 6’9.75″
    Channing Frye 6’9.5″
    Cole Aldrich 6’9″
    Nick Collison 6’8.75″

    Max Vertical:

    Troy Murphy 34.5 inches.
    Nick Collison 33 inches
    Channing Frye 31 inches
    Cole Aldrich 28 inches

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  • #360114
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    JNixon
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    All that shows is that Griffin isn’t a truly good shot-blocker, which is true. It doesn’t, however, give relevant facts about his impact as an overall player. You can be an extremely effective NBA player without getting a bunch of blocked shots.

    And the fact that you’re NEVER right makes you never believable

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  • #360120
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    JoeWolf1

    Actual Basketball knowledge and watching dozens of games per year > http://www.draftexpress.com and http://www.basketball-reference.com

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  • #360122
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    cyclo
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    I think Cole Aldrich will be an upgrade over Nick Collison (who’s been playing out of position at C) , since Aldrich is better defensively, but on most teams Aldrich would be backup C material.

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  • #360129
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    cyclo
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    Then challenge my statements one by one.

    Thus far, I see you’ve failed to do so.

    I’m posting statistical facts, measurements, so how can you say I’m not right?

    Do you think Blake Griffin is a FRANCHISE PLAYER and will you stand by that statement?

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  • #360130
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    JNixon
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    Just look at everything you’ve ever posted on this site….EVERYTHING. And you tell me what you’ve been right about…

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  • #360131
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    McWinning
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    All stand by that griffin will be an All Star very soon.

    Not sure about franchise player.

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  • #360132
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    mikeyvthedon
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    With shoes, where you add about 1.25 inches, that makes him about 6’10. Why do you dislike Blake Griffin? Wait until you see him play an NBA game before totally writing him off. He was very unlucky and his expectations wwere very high, which made the spotlight on his injury even worse. It is not like people were expecting him to revolutionize his position, but he is a good, hardworking and athletic player with nice upside. He is also incredibly strong, which is a great thing to have for someone with his athleticism. He may not be a franchise player, but than again, people write off Greg Oden saying the same thing. At the same time, tell me that teams would not want to have those two guys just for the chance they stay healthy? If they are both healthy, they are both better than most players at their position on any given night, simple as that. That is why they both went #1, and if they ever get the chance to stay on the court, than it will be very evident.

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  • #360153
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    cyclo
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    I asked you a simple question and you failed to answer it.

    Do you believe Blake Griffin is a FRANCHISE PLAYER?

    Even Clippers’ fans don’t think he is.

    I refuted the people here who thought Blake Griffin was a franchise player in ’09… just as I refuted people elsewhere who thought Michael Beasley was a franchise player in ’08 (guess who was right?).

    That you keep giving thumbs down to posted statistical facts and actual measurements tells me you can’t deal with the facts. How are the facts I’ve posted “wrong”?

    You must believe Cole Aldrich has a better max vertical than Troy Murphy, Nick Collison and Channing Frye. Do you believe this?

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  • #360164
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    JNixon
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    Oh so you just post facts? What’s the post of that? I can read stats anywhere. That doesn’t make you smart. It actually makes it look like you don’t watch basketball. And I have to doubt that you watch any of the players you talk about play…

    And yes, I think Blake Griffin will become the best player on the Clippers. I don’t thnik he’ll be an elite franchise player like a Kobe or Kevin Durant, but he’ll be the best player for the Clippers in the future, which will make him a franchise player.

    I don’t know what it is about a few of you people on this site this week saying I gave myself and take peoples points. I don’t care enough about you or the point system to do that. I only give points….Never do I take away points or give myself points. I have more important things to do on here.

    I don’t think he has a better vertical than any of them. But I do think he’ll provide a more valuable defensive and rebounding presence than any of those guys. And that’s what he was drafted for. That is something your “facts” will tell you too….lol.

    You are a joke

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    • #360245
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      cyclo
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      No. You’re the joke.

      I already posted that Cole Aldrich is better defensively than Murphy, Frye and Collison. So? He’d still be nothing but a scrub backup C on most NBA teams…. unless your team is starting Nick Collison at C… in which case Aldrich becomes an upgrade.

      Still not impressed with him.

      A 3 inch shorter version of Joel Pryzbilla isn’t what I’d want starting at C.

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  • #360176
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    butidonthavemoney

    cyclo, I’m the one who keeps giving you thumbs-down.

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  • #360180
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    McWinning
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    Im gonna cut your thumb off.

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  • #360186
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    butidonthavemoney

    You still mad I gave you one thumbs down, like a year ago?

    You were defending tli232. You had it coming.

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  • #360193
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    stanford hoops

    What does height or max very have to do with anything? And if Dirk was shorter he would stll be a allstar because he’s good.

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  • #360202
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    Platypus
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    http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6151

    Blake Griffin, Oklahoma
    Height without shoes 6′ 8.5″
    Height with shoes -6′ 10″
    Weight – 248.4
    Wingspan – 6′ 11.5″
    Standing Reach – 8′ 9″
    Body fat – 8.2

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  • #360205
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    McWinning
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    Haha i was defending tlii in a dream inside your dream, inside your dream.

    You woke up into your other dream and gave me a negative for saying your wedding dress for your marriage with jnixon-iggy looked gay,

    And then you ACTUALLY woke up and gave me a negative for telling a John Bryant joke thinking you were in a dream, but you ACTUALLY were in a dream when you gave me a negative for defending tlii.

    Or maybe i shouldn’t have seen Inception.

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  • #360224
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    cyclo
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    I just don’t think he’s a franchise player.

    When people were hyping Blake as a franchise player in ’09 and Beasely in ’08, I said they’re not.

    When people were speculating about their heights prior to those drafts, I posted the speculation. Beasely turned out to undersized at 6’7″ without shoes, while Blake measured 6’8.5″ without shoes. Beasely is a tweener at the NBA level, while Blake is a legit PF. Still, Blake isn’t much of a defender or shot blocker (just 1.2 blocks per game in college) with only a 6’11.25″ wingspan which may contribute to his not being a shot blocker. Short arms for a PF. By comparison, Blake’s 6’11.25″ wingspan is shorter than players such as PF Jeff Green 7’1.25″ and even SF Thaddeus Young 6’11.5″.

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  • #360227
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    McWinning
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    And Robert Dozier too right.

    So basically your a bust if your too short, and have a short wingspan?

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  • #360230
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    butidonthavemoney

    Blake Griffin is shorter than Channing Frye.

    Therefore he will be a bust.

    Look at me. I’m a scout.

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    • #360294
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      cyclo
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      Blake Griffin has better skills and more athleticism than Channing Frye.

      That’s why Blake Griffin is better.

      It’s about more than height.

      It’s about skills.

      At the C position, Cole Aldrich is shorter than Joel Pryzbilla and Eric Montross, but his offensive skills are no better than theirs were coming out of college. That doesn’t bode well, except on Oklahoma City where he’d be a defensive upgrade over Nick Collison who’s been playing out of position at C.

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  • #360236
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    ummm…Looney
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    Butidonthavemoney…cut the nonsense and do something useful with your time….

    Tally the damn votes so we can get the award presntations arollin

    NOW

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  • #360243
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    butidonthavemoney

    I would, but I have to go somewhere.

    The votes are already in. Maybe I’ll post the winners when I get home.

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  • #360242
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    McDunkin

    Thats the same thing i tried to tell people in 04

    with ha seung jin

    Photobucket

    and silly old dwight howard

    dwight howard Pictures, Images and Photos

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  • #360247
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    JNixon
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    Ouch. My feelings are now hurt :/

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  • #360254
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    McWinning
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    Youve just been insulted by the person who said Tyrese Rice, is better than Ty Lawson.

    Doesnt it sting?

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  • #360255
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    JNixon
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    All the way to the core timmahforprez….All the way to the core….I think I might cut my wrist smh

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  • #360307
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    cyclo
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    I never said Tyrese Rice is better than Ty Lawson.

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  • #360310
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    JNixon
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    ^Yeah you did! We pulled the thread yesterday and saw it! Why would we make that up? Wouldn’t that be EXTREMELY random to make something like that up?

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  • #360314
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    cyclo
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    …has still failed to refute even a single point.

    When statistical, numerical and player measurement facts are presented, he simply claims they’re “wrong” and then provides no examples and no supporting evidence.

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  • #360324
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    JNixon
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      cyclo
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      You did make it up, because nowhere did I say Rice was better.

      Lawson did get owned by Rice those two games, which is all that thread was about.

      How is that thread wrong, considering Lawson DID get owned?

      Again, where exactly did I say Rice was better?

      I’m afraid that statement is nowhere to be found.

      Wrong again, JNixon-Iggy9.

      I love it.

      Not only are you stupid. You can’t read!

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  • #360326
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    McWinning
    Participant

    Did you show us any of Blake Griffins stats besides his blocks?

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  • #360347
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    Stop looking at numbers; start watching basketball.

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    And that’s all that I have to say about that.

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  • #360349
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    JNixon
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    Your exact words were: “This is for every fool who thinks Ty Lawson is better just because he’s on North Carolina.”

    How can you lie when the proof is in your face?

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  • #360355
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    cyclo
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    Blake’s a good offensive player and rebounder, but he leaves a lot to be desired on the defensive end.

    Not a franchise player.

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    • #360599
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      mbd
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      He was OU’s best player he couldnt afford to get into foul trouble thats why he didnt get as many blocks as he should. But he is a franchise player this year will prove it.

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  • #360364
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    JNixon
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    How in the HELL does that not show that you said Rice was better??? Thats EXACTLY what it says lmao

    We pulled up all kinds of threads you were wrong about man….You’re not right about anything you project. All you do is pull up stats. Stats that everyone knows. I’m done arguing with you. You’re seriously stupid.

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  • #360362
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    cyclo
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    Again, that statement doesn’t say I believed Rice was better.

    Who cares anyway? I saw Rice own Lawson twice.

    That was long before the ’09 draft.

    Later, during the ’09 NCAA tournament, I believed Lawson was clearly better.

    You’ll have to find more examples than just one.

    One isn’t a bad track record, especially when I stated that Lawson was better prior to the ’09 draft.

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  • #360371
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    cyclo
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    No. You’re seriously stupid.

    That’s not what it says at all. Can you read?

    Back in Jan ’09, I said Lawson got owned by Rice twice. He did.

    What’s the big deal about that?

    Back then, I said people shouldn’t think Lawson is better just because he went to North Carolina. So?

    In the weeks prior to the ’09 draft, I said Lawson was clearly better.

    Why ignore the fact that I said Lawson was better prior to the ’09 draft?

    In fact, I had Lawson in my ’09 mock lottery.

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  • #360382
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    sheltwon3
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    wow going back to old posts, interesting. I wish people could back to the old post where i said Curry would be a great point guard and I said Phoenix Suns would definitely make the playoffs now that they have a coach in Gentry that likes to run and they got rid of Shaq.

    I am just curious about that.

    Blake Griffen plays in shoes and is going to be a stud and will be an All Star.

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  • #360401
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    McWinning
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    Okay right after i pull up the thread where you said Ramon Sessions is top five point guard.

    Lol i know youve been right a lot, ive been right before (probably less) but still all of us have been right before except Cyclo.

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  • #360447
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    cyclo
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    How many examples do you need of me being right???

    To state in April ’09 that Lawson and Flynn may end up better NBA players than Thabeet, Hill and Clark was a projection held by exactly one poster on this board. Me.

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  • #360527
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    butidonthavemoney

    "but still all of us have been right before except Cyclo"

    That wins.

    Let’s go home.

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  • #360551
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    Let’s go play some W.O.W.

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  • #360557
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    butidonthavemoney

    That also wins.

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  • #360561
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    Was that the beginning of another After-Hours adventure?

    Or is this the beginning?

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  • #360568
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    butidonthavemoney

    I say from now on, The After Hours Crew bombards cyclo with our patented nonsense everytime he posts. We’ll drive him crazy.

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  • #360571
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    Yeeeesssss. McPain will be very pleased….. When he wakes up, as he has dozed off yet again.

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    Muhuhahahaha….. Ha……

    Ha…..

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  • #360590
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    He’s gonna leave like LeBron:

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  • #360595
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    butidonthavemoney

    Who’s LeBron?

    Wasn’t he the big face on the Power Rangers?

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  • #360606
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    Wreckless
    Participant

    That lebron video was the best video ive ever seen.
    that jay-z impression was so f’in funny.

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  • #360608
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    butidonthavemoney

    I love it when people just post like we didn’t ruin the topic already.

    I KNOW YOU ARE READING THIS mbd!!!

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    • #360612
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      mbd
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      LOL my bad

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  • #360723
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    No. This is the face from the Power Rangers:

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  • #360725
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    McDunkin

    Just saw this on tv and he reminds me of the Nets new owner

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  • #360729
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    Awesome. McDunkin + butidonthavemoney + me not having class tomorrow = Legendary Post.

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  • #360730
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    McDunkin

    wow i didnt know we were talking power rangers

    top 3 punk power rangers

    1.Jason…he was the cool red ranger and leader…until Tommy showed up with that damn flute and took his leader role and his girl (the pink one)

    2. The Blue Ranger for fighting aliens..yet being scared to death of fish

    3. A two way tie between the black and yellow ranger, for accepting the colors of their uniforms was also a way to describe their race

    and yes ojj tonight…we partay

    let the nonsense continue

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  • #360741
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    butidonthavemoney

    McDunkin, I’ve been watching old Power Rangers episodes on YouTube lately.

    They are really, really, really great.

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  • #360751
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    McDunkin

    that was the bestest show in the world from age like 4-11or so then they just got half assed

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  • #360754
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    butidonthavemoney

    I’d say from 4-7. After that the show sucked. They got all different and replaced the Pink Ranger who I wanted to be lik… I mean had a crush on.

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  • #360756
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    McDunkin

    is that when the revenge list first started?

    did you know tommy is a tatted up mma fighter now?

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  • #360762
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    Best episode ever right here:

    Did you hear than intro?

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  • #360763
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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  • #360772
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    butidonthavemoney

    THE TURTLES!

    We can’t go any further without mentioning Batman.

    Watch this again.

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  • #360767
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    McDunkin

    thats the episode that inspired my crack addiction

    EDIT

    he fights brock lesnar next year

    Jason David Frank Pictures, Images and Photos

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  • #360773
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    I still hate Venus.

    “Donatello, Michaelangelo, Leonardo, Raphael, come here. I would like you to meet your long lost sister; her name is Venus.”

    I was like…

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    “I’m never watching this (expletive) again.”

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  • #360775
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    McDunkin

    lol so many memories coming back…you would think with her being the only female turtle ever..they would be pissed that she just had to be a family member

    batman…i dont even have a joke..the video says it all

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  • #360779
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    butidonthavemoney
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  • #360782
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    McDunkin

    do you guys remember those random cartoons that popped up out of nowhere and would get cancelled after one season like

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  • #360783
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    That was also around the time I started playing this:

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  • #360786
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    McDunkin

    why was robin smiling at 00:53

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  • #360787
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    butidonthavemoney

    Because that was hilarious. You would be smiling too.

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  • #360788
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    I haven’t seen a smile that creepy since the last episode of To Catch a Predator.

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  • #360790
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    butidonthavemoney

    I’m actually watching To Catch a Predator now. Part 6 of Greenville, Ohio.

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  • #360791
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    McDunkin

    ojj those old racing games started my “throwing the controller phase” and any game that involved jumping from place to place

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  • #360795
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    butidonthavemoney

    I remember staying up late with some friends, laughing like idiots at Mario Frustration.

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  • #360796
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    I didn’t get into my controller-throwing phase until Halo 2 came out. I was like this kid, but worse because I would actually kill my own teammates when I reached my boiling point:

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  • #360805
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    butidonthavemoney

    I think that Halo fans are all retarded.

    They take that game too seriously.

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  • #360808
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    McDunkin

    1. i suck at first person shooters

    2. for me people online that use english as a second language seem like the ones that flip out and curse like crazy

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  • #360809
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    butidonthavemoney

    I was good at Modern Warfare, but I suck at Modern Warfare 2.

    I really suck. I bet people cuss at me like that guy behind their TV.

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  • #360811
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    I fell into that “retard” category, until I started blasting music over my mic. Most of the time, I blasted Backstreet Boys, N’Sync, Michael Jackson, and Baltimore Club Music. The game became much more fun, and I slowly regained my IQ.

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  • #360814
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    Modern Warfare’s a tough game. You pretty much have to camp because there’s no health. It’s all about who sees whom first.

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  • #360815
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    McDunkin

    timberlakes voice will do that to ya

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  • #360816
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    butidonthavemoney

    I’m going to play some Modern Warfare 2 right now.

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  • #360820
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    butidonthavemoney

    Rank: 26

    Wins: 10

    Losses: 82

    Ties: 0

    Win Streak: 2

    Kills: 773

    Headshots: 28

    Assists: 48

    Streak: 8

    Deaths: 1221

    Time Played: 0d 9h 16m

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  • #360823
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    McDunkin

    get a game with auto aim man!

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  • #360824
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    I’d download M.U.G.E.N if “The Pirate Bay” would stay open for more than 15 seconds. Then I could do cool stuff like this:

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  • #360828
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    Can you play Red Dead Redemption online with auto-aim?

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  • #360829
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    llperez

    this thread looks way funner then arguing about race like we are doing over in the cool part of NBAdraft.net

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  • #360831
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    McDunkin

    yes you can ojj

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  • #360832
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    As far as my Halo career goes, the funniest message I ever got from a foreigner was, “Hey, asshole, no music, OK? Stop, asshole.”

    I know it doesn’t sound funny, but I was almost in tears after I heard him say it. That Russian accent was too funny.

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  • #360834
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    That settles it. (expletive) food; I’m buying Red Dead Redemption. I can’t remember the last time I played on Xbox Live with auto-aim.

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  • #360837
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    butidonthavemoney

    Cool part?

    I am the cool part.

    Maybe I shouldn’t post in the middle of a match. But I did just get a 3 Kill Streak. Jealous?

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  • #360842
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    I’m average at best, but I actually got a Nuke once. I was playing on that really small map, and I just kept spawn killing until I got a nuke. Everybody hated me for it, but I had a huge smile on my face.

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  • #360845
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    butidonthavemoney

    I finished 9 and 12 on the losing team.

    Not bad for me.

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  • #360853
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    How the hell did “The Lost White Guys” ex–

    Never mind. I already know what — or should I say who — happened without even reading through it.

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  • #360854
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    McDunkin

    so your like oleksiy pecherov

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  • #360855
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    Michael.S.
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    I dont play COD but how can you rank 26th with only 10 wins to 82 losses.

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  • #360858
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    Michael.S.
    Participant

    Butidont….

    I am redesigning the thingies…

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  • #360859
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    butidonthavemoney

    Take your time.

    Just don’t tell anybody who the winners are. Don’t even give any hints.

    Let me know when you finish.

    And my level is 26. Not my worldwide rank.

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  • #360869
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    What the F?

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    I thought that I was your second in command, no money. Dost thou have an assignment that can only be completed by the engineer?

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  • #360868
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    McDunkin
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  • #360876
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    McDunkin

    ^^^^ hope the rev drinks coffee because that is one mean mug

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  • #360878
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    OrangeJuiceJones
    Participant

    Damn web browser is busted. I can’t give you a point for that joke, McDunkin.

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  • #360879
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    butidonthavemoney

    Best thing ever.

    Saw two teammates shooting a chopper with LMGs. Decide to fool around and help them. So I point up and shoot it like 6 times with my P90 and I got the credit for knocking it down. Haha.

    Actually it isn’t that great…

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  • #360881
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    Michael.S.
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    That was hilarious mcdunkin…

    OJJ…We are working on alittle project for the nbadraft.net users….

    Butidonthavemoney

    the new design is very funny and I dont now if I should keep it…

    I put congrats but there is something in the middle so it looks like CONG—RATS

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  • #360884
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    dahoodrecruiter
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    proved the guy wrong ….highjacked his thread and start talking about ….power rangers {PRICELESS!!} LOL

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  • #360889
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    butidonthavemoney

    That’s just how the After Hours Crew rolls…

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  • #360891
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    McDunkin

    never create a thread after midnight…just like feeding gremlins..you just shouldnt do it

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  • #361038
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @cyclo

    Just because a player isn’t a shot blocker doesn’t mean they can’t be a great defender. Karl Malone wasn’t a shot blocker either… He averaged less than a block per game for his entire career. However, he was a great defender.

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  • #361054
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    dahoodrecruiter
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    @McDunkin ……..{never create a thread after midnight…just like feeding gremlins..you just shouldnt do it}

    ill take that good advice since im a NEWBIE round these parts,THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP LLOLL

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  • #440834
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    McWinning
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    That Blake Griffin guy really sucks……

    If only they would have draft the 7”3 Thabeet, with his huge wingspan. There idiots.

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  • #440842
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    McWinning
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    That Blake Griffin guy really sucks……

    If only they would have draft the 7”3 Thabeet, with his huge wingspan. There idiots.

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  • #440819
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    McWinning
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    That Blake Griffin guy really sucks……

    If only they would have draft the 7”3 Thabeet, with his huge wingspan. There idiots.

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  • #495407
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    butidonthavemoney

    "griffin will never have 22 12 season"

    This topic is so full of fail.

    #cyclolegacy

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  • #495358
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    butidonthavemoney

    "griffin will never have 22 12 season"

    This topic is so full of fail.

    #cyclolegacy

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  • #495447
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    JoeWolf1

     Haha, this was pretty good.  I wish cyclo still posted here, but I think he got a job as John Bryant’s butler.

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  • #495495
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    JoeWolf1

     Haha, this was pretty good.  I wish cyclo still posted here, but I think he got a job as John Bryant’s butler.

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  • #495460
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    OhCanada-
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    I bet he changed his name thats all. Funny thing is I never thought Griffin would be this good this quick hes doing amazing. Sometimes youre ust flat out wrong.

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  • #495509
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    OhCanada-
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    I bet he changed his name thats all. Funny thing is I never thought Griffin would be this good this quick hes doing amazing. Sometimes youre ust flat out wrong.

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  • #518799
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    McWinning
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    Cyclo was right, they shouldve drafted the legit 6’10” Jordan Hill, but then again they are the Clippers……..

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  • #518934
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    Dale Worthington
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    Wait, what the hell?

    McDunkin has all those posts under McWinning + 4,000 more under McDunkin?

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  • #518947
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    butidonthavemoney

    He’s no Luke Babbitt, that’s the damn truth!

    I love when people bump this topic. My first post ever on this site was in this topic. I misspelled "Blake Griffin" as "Blake Griffen". Kind of haunts me…

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  • #518954
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    No, this McDunkin is actually "bobster".  He decided he would take the name as soon as the real McDunkin changed it.

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  • #518956
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    Dale Worthington
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    Ooooooooh, that’s naughty.

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  • #518959
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Wow… that phrase in combination with your pic and name…. no homo tho right? lmao

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  • #519031
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    Dale Worthington
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    I’m pretty sure a straight guy can say the word ‘naughty’…

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  • #643237
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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     Only if he’s saying it to a female. Even then, the male and female usually have to know each other pretty well.

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  • #643239
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    butidonthavemoney

    "Only if he’s saying it to a female. Even then, the male and female usually have to know each other pretty well."

    Using it in karaoke is acceptable as well, yes?

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  • #930647
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    ProudGrandpa
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     Looks like Cyclo was right.  Blake "Munchkin/Dwarf/DeVito Jr./Hobbit/Black Leprechaun" Griffin really sucked bad.  If only he was taller.

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  • #930515
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    ProudGrandpa
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     Looks like Cyclo was right.  Blake "Munchkin/Dwarf/DeVito Jr./Hobbit/Black Leprechaun" Griffin really sucked bad.  If only he was taller.

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  • #930655
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    thunderjerk
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     Weirdest thread ever. 

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  • #930523
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    thunderjerk
    Participant

     Weirdest thread ever. 

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