levels of athletism

I like it. But where would Kobe fit in your eyes? Or B-easy? Or a guy like DeAndre Jordan?

I like it. But where would Kobe fit in your eyes? Or B-easy? Or a guy like DeAndre Jordan?

I like it. But where would Kobe fit in your eyes? Or B-easy? Or a guy like DeAndre Jordan?

A good athlete doesn’t necessarily mean good jumping skills, it also includes body control and footwork to some degree so on that basis Kobe is elite

A good athlete doesn’t necessarily mean good jumping skills, it also includes body control and footwork to some degree so on that basis Kobe is elite

A good athlete doesn’t necessarily mean good jumping skills, it also includes body control and footwork to some degree so on that basis Kobe is elite

We should try to name the best players of all time for each level of athleticism:

Terrible:  Yao

Average:  Bird

Good:  Magic

Very Good:  Kobe

Elite:  Jordan

Just throwing some out there.

We should try to name the best players of all time for each level of athleticism:

Terrible:  Yao

Average:  Bird

Good:  Magic

Very Good:  Kobe

Elite:  Jordan

Just throwing some out there.

We should try to name the best players of all time for each level of athleticism:

Terrible:  Yao

Average:  Bird

Good:  Magic

Very Good:  Kobe

Elite:  Jordan

Just throwing some out there.

Terrible: Oliver Miller

Eilte: Shawn Kemp

Terrible: Oliver Miller

Eilte: Shawn Kemp

Terrible: Oliver Miller

Eilte: Shawn Kemp

Thanks for the anwsering me. Pretty sure Guys like Lebron (in just athletism) and MJ are in a league all there own. 

Thanks for the anwsering me. Pretty sure Guys like Lebron (in just athletism) and MJ are in a league all there own. 

Thanks for the anwsering me. Pretty sure Guys like Lebron (in just athletism) and MJ are in a league all there own. 

Great/Elite: Sonny Weems, DeRozen, LeBron, Wade, Anthony Randolph, Wall, etc.

Lets seperate that into 2 different classes.

Great: Weems, DeRozan, Randolph.

Elite: LeBron, Wade, Wall.

Great/Elite: Sonny Weems, DeRozen, LeBron, Wade, Anthony Randolph, Wall, etc.

Lets seperate that into 2 different classes.

Great: Weems, DeRozan, Randolph.

Elite: LeBron, Wade, Wall.

Great/Elite: Sonny Weems, DeRozen, LeBron, Wade, Anthony Randolph, Wall, etc.

Lets seperate that into 2 different classes.

Great: Weems, DeRozan, Randolph.

Elite: LeBron, Wade, Wall.

Sorry but it hurts my eyes to see Derozan and Lebron put in the same category athletically, its not even close man.

Secomd when Weems, and Derozan try to impact games on their athletisism alone thats when they play reclessly and create turnovers. When they control their tempo and play within the confinees of the system they flourish. The hugest misconseption on their game is their athletisism.

Sorry but it hurts my eyes to see Derozan and Lebron put in the same category athletically, its not even close man.

Secomd when Weems, and Derozan try to impact games on their athletisism alone thats when they play reclessly and create turnovers. When they control their tempo and play within the confinees of the system they flourish. The hugest misconseption on their game is their athletisism.

Sorry but it hurts my eyes to see Derozan and Lebron put in the same category athletically, its not even close man.

Secomd when Weems, and Derozan try to impact games on their athletisism alone thats when they play reclessly and create turnovers. When they control their tempo and play within the confinees of the system they flourish. The hugest misconseption on their game is their athletisism.

Anthony Randolf?  Really?  How about replacing him with Tyrese Thomas? 

Anthony Randolf?  Really?  How about replacing him with Tyrese Thomas? 

Anthony Randolf?  Really?  How about replacing him with Tyrese Thomas? 

Put Blake Griffin in elite and take out Weems,Randolph,and DeRozan…Only a few players should be put in the Elite level

Put Blake Griffin in elite and take out Weems,Randolph,and DeRozan…Only a few players should be put in the Elite level

Put Blake Griffin in elite and take out Weems,Randolph,and DeRozan…Only a few players should be put in the Elite level

you can see for sure by looking at draft express predraft measurments. They test every athletic catagory

you can see for sure by looking at draft express predraft measurments. They test every athletic catagory

you can see for sure by looking at draft express predraft measurments. They test every athletic catagory

Thanks you OhCanada for saying that Derozan is not an elite. I’ve never seen him as a freak athlete in any way, but people made him out to be the next Vince Carter when he was in HS. He’s smooth and agile with nice body control, and he’s a solid leaper, but he’s only decent in terms of quickness and speed. He has no elite athletic trait IMO. Just some very good traits and some merely decent traits.

Thanks you OhCanada for saying that Derozan is not an elite. I’ve never seen him as a freak athlete in any way, but people made him out to be the next Vince Carter when he was in HS. He’s smooth and agile with nice body control, and he’s a solid leaper, but he’s only decent in terms of quickness and speed. He has no elite athletic trait IMO. Just some very good traits and some merely decent traits.

Thanks you OhCanada for saying that Derozan is not an elite. I’ve never seen him as a freak athlete in any way, but people made him out to be the next Vince Carter when he was in HS. He’s smooth and agile with nice body control, and he’s a solid leaper, but he’s only decent in terms of quickness and speed. He has no elite athletic trait IMO. Just some very good traits and some merely decent traits.

 Athleticism is not just leaping ability….you have to factor in:

Strength

Body Control

Speed

Quickness

Agility

Leaping Ability

with that being said people need to re-evaluate their list.

 Athleticism is not just leaping ability….you have to factor in:

Strength

Body Control

Speed

Quickness

Agility

Leaping Ability

with that being said people need to re-evaluate their list.

 Athleticism is not just leaping ability….you have to factor in:

Strength

Body Control

Speed

Quickness

Agility

Leaping Ability

with that being said people need to re-evaluate their list.

There should be a whole new catagory for scalabine, eddy curry and brian cardinal..

There should be a whole new catagory for scalabine, eddy curry and brian cardinal..

There should be a whole new catagory for scalabine, eddy curry and brian cardinal..

What should the level be called for Scalbrine, Curry, and Cardinal?

Perhaps they have the same level as a  hippo… or manatee?

What should the level be called for Scalbrine, Curry, and Cardinal?

Perhaps they have the same level as a  hippo… or manatee?

What should the level be called for Scalbrine, Curry, and Cardinal?

Perhaps they have the same level as a  hippo… or manatee?

Anthony randolph is considered a elite athlete?

Anthony randolph is considered a elite athlete?

Anthony randolph is considered a elite athlete?

how can u guys forget shannon brown?

how can u guys forget shannon brown?

how can u guys forget shannon brown?

Antonio McDyess was an elite athlete when he came into the league. I got Elton Brand as an average athlete right now, he moves like a man much older then he is, and I know about the injuries.

Antonio McDyess was an elite athlete when he came into the league. I got Elton Brand as an average athlete right now, he moves like a man much older then he is, and I know about the injuries.

Antonio McDyess was an elite athlete when he came into the league. I got Elton Brand as an average athlete right now, he moves like a man much older then he is, and I know about the injuries.

A lot of athleticism as judged by NBA scouts and GM’s is perception.  Just look at Tyler Hansbrough, he was always getting knocked for being an average or even sub par athlete, yet he tested extremely high on agility, strength speed and leaping ability.  I think like a lot of you guys said athleticism is a combination of a lot of things.

To me an elite athlete is Michael Jordan, Lebron James, or Dwight Howard, Shawn Kemp, and I would even put Blake Griffin in this category and I think Russell Westbrook is very close to here.  Guys that are physical freaks that don’t come along all that often.

I think at an NBA level you are a very good athlete if your vert is 35-40 inches, your fast and somewhat strong (Derrick Rose, DeRozen, Terrance Williams) OR if you have a high 30’s or 40+ inch vertical and are weak, slow, and kinda goofy ( cough cough Ryan Hollins, Anthony Randolph, Julian Wright) and are pretty much only playing basketball because you can jump and run well.

I think you can be considered a good NBA athlete if you have a 30-35 inch vertical or you make up for lower leaping ability with blazing speed ( Steve Nash) great strength ( Carlos Boozer, Kendrick Perkins)

I think if you are a pro basketball player and have a sub 30 inch vert and don’t have elite strength or speed you are a sub par NBA athlete.  That doesn’t mean you can’t play, there are tons of guys like this who have great skill sets, fundamentals or decades worth of veteran tricks.  You just might see them dunk in a game once every two years or so.

A lot of athleticism as judged by NBA scouts and GM’s is perception.  Just look at Tyler Hansbrough, he was always getting knocked for being an average or even sub par athlete, yet he tested extremely high on agility, strength speed and leaping ability.  I think like a lot of you guys said athleticism is a combination of a lot of things.

To me an elite athlete is Michael Jordan, Lebron James, or Dwight Howard, Shawn Kemp, and I would even put Blake Griffin in this category and I think Russell Westbrook is very close to here.  Guys that are physical freaks that don’t come along all that often.

I think at an NBA level you are a very good athlete if your vert is 35-40 inches, your fast and somewhat strong (Derrick Rose, DeRozen, Terrance Williams) OR if you have a high 30’s or 40+ inch vertical and are weak, slow, and kinda goofy ( cough cough Ryan Hollins, Anthony Randolph, Julian Wright) and are pretty much only playing basketball because you can jump and run well.

I think you can be considered a good NBA athlete if you have a 30-35 inch vertical or you make up for lower leaping ability with blazing speed ( Steve Nash) great strength ( Carlos Boozer, Kendrick Perkins)

I think if you are a pro basketball player and have a sub 30 inch vert and don’t have elite strength or speed you are a sub par NBA athlete.  That doesn’t mean you can’t play, there are tons of guys like this who have great skill sets, fundamentals or decades worth of veteran tricks.  You just might see them dunk in a game once every two years or so.

A lot of athleticism as judged by NBA scouts and GM’s is perception.  Just look at Tyler Hansbrough, he was always getting knocked for being an average or even sub par athlete, yet he tested extremely high on agility, strength speed and leaping ability.  I think like a lot of you guys said athleticism is a combination of a lot of things.

To me an elite athlete is Michael Jordan, Lebron James, or Dwight Howard, Shawn Kemp, and I would even put Blake Griffin in this category and I think Russell Westbrook is very close to here.  Guys that are physical freaks that don’t come along all that often.

I think at an NBA level you are a very good athlete if your vert is 35-40 inches, your fast and somewhat strong (Derrick Rose, DeRozen, Terrance Williams) OR if you have a high 30’s or 40+ inch vertical and are weak, slow, and kinda goofy ( cough cough Ryan Hollins, Anthony Randolph, Julian Wright) and are pretty much only playing basketball because you can jump and run well.

I think you can be considered a good NBA athlete if you have a 30-35 inch vertical or you make up for lower leaping ability with blazing speed ( Steve Nash) great strength ( Carlos Boozer, Kendrick Perkins)

I think if you are a pro basketball player and have a sub 30 inch vert and don’t have elite strength or speed you are a sub par NBA athlete.  That doesn’t mean you can’t play, there are tons of guys like this who have great skill sets, fundamentals or decades worth of veteran tricks.  You just might see them dunk in a game once every two years or so.