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  • #23314
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    esperanzafleet69
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    i dont know if anybody saw the game against minny but thomas had 20pts 10reb 4blk 2stl….

    when given over 30 minutes in a game this year tyrus has been dominating… i think its time to give him the reigns and let him break out…but larry and michael still seem to disagree…

    i think later this year he will.. thoughts?

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  • #438785
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    esperanzafleet69
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    lemme throw this down… his three highest minute games…

     

    vs MINNESOTA 20pts 10reb 4blk 2stl    31 Minutes

    vs SAN ANTONIO 16pts 8reb 3blk 2stl  23 MINUTES

    vs DALLAS 22pts 6 reb 0blk 1stl 30 MINUTES (first game of season)

     

    lets also not forget that san antonio was against timmy d and dujuan blair… Tyrus is filling his potential now but nobody seems to see it…

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  • #438755
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    esperanzafleet69
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    lemme throw this down… his three highest minute games…

     

    vs MINNESOTA 20pts 10reb 4blk 2stl    31 Minutes

    vs SAN ANTONIO 16pts 8reb 3blk 2stl  23 MINUTES

    vs DALLAS 22pts 6 reb 0blk 1stl 30 MINUTES (first game of season)

     

    lets also not forget that san antonio was against timmy d and dujuan blair… Tyrus is filling his potential now but nobody seems to see it…

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  • #438775
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    esperanzafleet69
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    lemme throw this down… his three highest minute games…

     

    vs MINNESOTA 20pts 10reb 4blk 2stl    31 Minutes

    vs SAN ANTONIO 16pts 8reb 3blk 2stl  23 MINUTES

    vs DALLAS 22pts 6 reb 0blk 1stl 30 MINUTES (first game of season)

     

    lets also not forget that san antonio was against timmy d and dujuan blair… Tyrus is filling his potential now but nobody seems to see it…

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  • #438791
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    He did that ocasionally with the Bulls and followed it up with a 4 point 5 rebound 2 block performance.  He’ll fool you when his 15 footer is falling, but I don’t know if it’s a maturity thing or what, but he isn’t a dominant NBA player.  He’s a good role player who can step up with a game like that every now and again, but since he’s young has great length and has pogo sticks for legs , IMO, people make him out for more than what he is as a pro player.

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  • #438761
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    JoeWolf1

     

    He did that ocasionally with the Bulls and followed it up with a 4 point 5 rebound 2 block performance.  He’ll fool you when his 15 footer is falling, but I don’t know if it’s a maturity thing or what, but he isn’t a dominant NBA player.  He’s a good role player who can step up with a game like that every now and again, but since he’s young has great length and has pogo sticks for legs , IMO, people make him out for more than what he is as a pro player.

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  • #438781
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    JoeWolf1

     

    He did that ocasionally with the Bulls and followed it up with a 4 point 5 rebound 2 block performance.  He’ll fool you when his 15 footer is falling, but I don’t know if it’s a maturity thing or what, but he isn’t a dominant NBA player.  He’s a good role player who can step up with a game like that every now and again, but since he’s young has great length and has pogo sticks for legs , IMO, people make him out for more than what he is as a pro player.

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  • #438790
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    esperanzafleet69
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    the point i was trying to make joe is that his per minute averages this year are sick… larry brown is doing wonders with him…

    his per minute averages this year are

    20 pts 10 reb 2stl 3.2blk 

    he shoots around 50% fg and 80% ft…. that spells star to me… and hes been putting these per minute numbers up consistantly all year

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  • #438801
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    esperanzafleet69
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    the point i was trying to make joe is that his per minute averages this year are sick… larry brown is doing wonders with him…

    his per minute averages this year are

    20 pts 10 reb 2stl 3.2blk 

    he shoots around 50% fg and 80% ft…. that spells star to me… and hes been putting these per minute numbers up consistantly all year

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  • #438770
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    esperanzafleet69
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    the point i was trying to make joe is that his per minute averages this year are sick… larry brown is doing wonders with him…

    his per minute averages this year are

    20 pts 10 reb 2stl 3.2blk 

    he shoots around 50% fg and 80% ft…. that spells star to me… and hes been putting these per minute numbers up consistantly all year

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  • #438802
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    JoeWolf1

    He’s still young though, i don’t feel he’s ready to domintate.  He’s been in the league for a few years now and I feel he’s not a mature, level headed basketball player.  Watching stats is one thing, but watching him play is another, again IMO, he’s a guy who will take off from the dotted line and dunk on someone but follow it up with a jacked up forced shot with a defender right in his face.  The dude has to prove to me he can be consistant before i will use words like dominate, but best of luck to Brown, at the very least he is a great energy player off the bench and an elite shot blocker.

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  • #438813
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    JoeWolf1

    He’s still young though, i don’t feel he’s ready to domintate.  He’s been in the league for a few years now and I feel he’s not a mature, level headed basketball player.  Watching stats is one thing, but watching him play is another, again IMO, he’s a guy who will take off from the dotted line and dunk on someone but follow it up with a jacked up forced shot with a defender right in his face.  The dude has to prove to me he can be consistant before i will use words like dominate, but best of luck to Brown, at the very least he is a great energy player off the bench and an elite shot blocker.

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  • #438783
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    JoeWolf1

    He’s still young though, i don’t feel he’s ready to domintate.  He’s been in the league for a few years now and I feel he’s not a mature, level headed basketball player.  Watching stats is one thing, but watching him play is another, again IMO, he’s a guy who will take off from the dotted line and dunk on someone but follow it up with a jacked up forced shot with a defender right in his face.  The dude has to prove to me he can be consistant before i will use words like dominate, but best of luck to Brown, at the very least he is a great energy player off the bench and an elite shot blocker.

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  • #438789
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    esperanzafleet69
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    i would completely agree with you joe, but ive seen around 8 bobcats games this year and his shot selection is pretty good… which is what i thought his major problem was… a good coach is exactly what he needed and i think he got that.. he needs to stay with this team and develop his game more.. larry brown is a great coach…

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  • #438808
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    esperanzafleet69
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    i would completely agree with you joe, but ive seen around 8 bobcats games this year and his shot selection is pretty good… which is what i thought his major problem was… a good coach is exactly what he needed and i think he got that.. he needs to stay with this team and develop his game more.. larry brown is a great coach…

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  • #438819
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    esperanzafleet69
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    i would completely agree with you joe, but ive seen around 8 bobcats games this year and his shot selection is pretty good… which is what i thought his major problem was… a good coach is exactly what he needed and i think he got that.. he needs to stay with this team and develop his game more.. larry brown is a great coach…

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  • #438847
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    In my opinion this is his time to shine. He’s got a nice fat contract, he’s going to have plenty of opportunities playing on the Bobcats and he has what is in my opinion the best coach in basketball coaching him. If he’s going to do something it needs to be now. I think consistency has always hurt him though. Like Joe Wolf said, he gives you a great game one night and the next nothing. I haven’t gotten to watch any of his games with Charlotte though. I know shot selection was always a huge issue and he really wasn’t as aggressive going to the basket as he should have been with his type of athleticism.

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  • #438868
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    In my opinion this is his time to shine. He’s got a nice fat contract, he’s going to have plenty of opportunities playing on the Bobcats and he has what is in my opinion the best coach in basketball coaching him. If he’s going to do something it needs to be now. I think consistency has always hurt him though. Like Joe Wolf said, he gives you a great game one night and the next nothing. I haven’t gotten to watch any of his games with Charlotte though. I know shot selection was always a huge issue and he really wasn’t as aggressive going to the basket as he should have been with his type of athleticism.

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  • #438879
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    In my opinion this is his time to shine. He’s got a nice fat contract, he’s going to have plenty of opportunities playing on the Bobcats and he has what is in my opinion the best coach in basketball coaching him. If he’s going to do something it needs to be now. I think consistency has always hurt him though. Like Joe Wolf said, he gives you a great game one night and the next nothing. I haven’t gotten to watch any of his games with Charlotte though. I know shot selection was always a huge issue and he really wasn’t as aggressive going to the basket as he should have been with his type of athleticism.

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  • #438932
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    I hope you are right. I can see Tyrus progressing. Being under a basketball mind like Coach Brown, you had better learn something. I personally dont see star potential, but with an increased IQ, I see Tyrus maing some noise as a starter…. I always wanted to see him take to rebounding and defense like a Rodman type, but again he needs to continue to develop that bball IQ. Tyrus is going to earn that contract, just not as a star.

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  • #438951
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    I hope you are right. I can see Tyrus progressing. Being under a basketball mind like Coach Brown, you had better learn something. I personally dont see star potential, but with an increased IQ, I see Tyrus maing some noise as a starter…. I always wanted to see him take to rebounding and defense like a Rodman type, but again he needs to continue to develop that bball IQ. Tyrus is going to earn that contract, just not as a star.

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  • #438965
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    abriggs06
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    I hope you are right. I can see Tyrus progressing. Being under a basketball mind like Coach Brown, you had better learn something. I personally dont see star potential, but with an increased IQ, I see Tyrus maing some noise as a starter…. I always wanted to see him take to rebounding and defense like a Rodman type, but again he needs to continue to develop that bball IQ. Tyrus is going to earn that contract, just not as a star.

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  • #438941
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    but he needs more minutes so he can improve with the players around him. He has shown a lot of good things when given the chance. He is not a star player. If given the minutes and he shows consistency he could get close though.

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  • #438960
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    but he needs more minutes so he can improve with the players around him. He has shown a lot of good things when given the chance. He is not a star player. If given the minutes and he shows consistency he could get close though.

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  • #438974
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    but he needs more minutes so he can improve with the players around him. He has shown a lot of good things when given the chance. He is not a star player. If given the minutes and he shows consistency he could get close though.

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  • #438955
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    omphalos
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    Bobcats really need a star player to take some of the pressure off these solid players who make up the rest of the team. They have all the right pieces to be great, now they just need the star. Maybe they’ll win the lottery and end up with Barnes, could be a nice story for the UNC player to be drafted to Charlotte.

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  • #438975
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    omphalos
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    Bobcats really need a star player to take some of the pressure off these solid players who make up the rest of the team. They have all the right pieces to be great, now they just need the star. Maybe they’ll win the lottery and end up with Barnes, could be a nice story for the UNC player to be drafted to Charlotte.

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  • #438989
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    Bobcats really need a star player to take some of the pressure off these solid players who make up the rest of the team. They have all the right pieces to be great, now they just need the star. Maybe they’ll win the lottery and end up with Barnes, could be a nice story for the UNC player to be drafted to Charlotte.

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  • #438976
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    Thomas when he was drafted by Chicago had Big Ben and P.J Brown to help mentor him with the hope that when P.J’s contract expired Thomas would be ready to take over as a starting PF. 4 years down the line he is still developing and is currently probably best used as a high energy bench player. Hopefully Coach Brown will see enough development to give Tyrus more minutes as he is surely worth more than 21.4mpg and the size of his contract would certainly merit this. With Wallace and Jackson playing such heavy mibutes surely Tyrus could take a bit of their slack as Jackson is now 32 years old so excessive minutes will not be good for his long term durability.

    As Doubledribber says, Tyrus now has a nice contract and can probably now relax and continue to develop his game under Coach Brown.

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  • #438996
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    Thomas when he was drafted by Chicago had Big Ben and P.J Brown to help mentor him with the hope that when P.J’s contract expired Thomas would be ready to take over as a starting PF. 4 years down the line he is still developing and is currently probably best used as a high energy bench player. Hopefully Coach Brown will see enough development to give Tyrus more minutes as he is surely worth more than 21.4mpg and the size of his contract would certainly merit this. With Wallace and Jackson playing such heavy mibutes surely Tyrus could take a bit of their slack as Jackson is now 32 years old so excessive minutes will not be good for his long term durability.

    As Doubledribber says, Tyrus now has a nice contract and can probably now relax and continue to develop his game under Coach Brown.

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  • #439010
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    Thomas when he was drafted by Chicago had Big Ben and P.J Brown to help mentor him with the hope that when P.J’s contract expired Thomas would be ready to take over as a starting PF. 4 years down the line he is still developing and is currently probably best used as a high energy bench player. Hopefully Coach Brown will see enough development to give Tyrus more minutes as he is surely worth more than 21.4mpg and the size of his contract would certainly merit this. With Wallace and Jackson playing such heavy mibutes surely Tyrus could take a bit of their slack as Jackson is now 32 years old so excessive minutes will not be good for his long term durability.

    As Doubledribber says, Tyrus now has a nice contract and can probably now relax and continue to develop his game under Coach Brown.

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  • #439079
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    RUDEBOY_
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    thomas is a great energy guy to have coming off the bench..but he was given plenty of chances in chicago..

    but he was inconsistent..thats why they let him go…

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  • #439098
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    RUDEBOY_
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    thomas is a great energy guy to have coming off the bench..but he was given plenty of chances in chicago..

    but he was inconsistent..thats why they let him go…

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  • #439112
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    RUDEBOY_
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    thomas is a great energy guy to have coming off the bench..but he was given plenty of chances in chicago..

    but he was inconsistent..thats why they let him go…

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