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&$#%#&@! you Sam Young!!!

&$#%#&@! you Sam Young!!! Where the &$#%#&@! was the help defense?!?!?! &$#%#&@! you!!! &$#%#&@! the Heat.

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I wouldn't blame the help on

I wouldn't blame the help on that. George took himself out of the play and gave up a free lane in 1 dribble. The floor was completely spaced. The man guarding lebron has to at least make him make a move so the help has time to react.

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MVP

Thats what they do.

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I think the Pacers gave that

I think the Pacers gave that game away. Next game is going to be another battle.

This is going to be a great series.

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Sam Young had no right to be

Sam Young had no right to be on the floor, Hibbert should of been out there the game wasn't going to another OT. So fouls weren't an issue.

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I wish Paul George would've

I wish Paul George would've fouled him man. Put the pressure on him to make free-throws.

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I don't care what Barkley

I don't care what Barkley says, it is absolutely terrible to not have Hibbert in the game there for those last couple possessions. The number 1 asset you can have vs. Lebron James is a rim protector. Look at Chandler in 2011. If Hibbert is in the game, he is at the rim on both of those plays. If he Bosh ends up getting an open jump shot, so be it. I'll take my shot with Bosh on a jump shot over LeBron on an uncontested layup any day of the week. Also, with 2.2 left, you knew LeBron was getting the ball, and he really didn't have enough time to pass it to someone else. That being said, the other defenders still should have been more aware of the situation.

Indiana didn't look outclassed at all in terms of talent, that's for sure. LeBron only took 2 shoots from 3 mins to go in the 4th to the last 2 possessions of OT. He needs to be aggressive down the stretch, or the Heat are going to get in trouble. The Pacers gave that game away with stupid mistakes and questionable coaching moves down the stretch. I am not calling Vogel a bad coach, I just think he did a poor job there. It was more than the Hibbert play...they were only in position to win because George made 2 great plays on broken plays.

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Can anyone tell me a) why Sam

Can anyone tell me a) why Sam Young was on the floor and b) why he just watched LeBron take that layup? Unbelievably stupid.

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Sam Young is awful. But the

Sam Young is awful.

But the fact he's playing just tells you how bad Gerald Green is. A complete wasted signing.

Damn... It's too bad Granger can't give us 15-20 mins.

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Not that Indiana is even

Not that Indiana is even vaguely finished, but they need to address their bench this offseason. Is Granger going to be a 6th man? Putting George back at the two and benching Stephenson might do more harm than good. And after that, they need to bring in some guys capable of playing minutes and contributing off the bench. Young, Green, Hansbrough, and Mahimi are beyond bad. It's sad that Augustin actually seems decent to me for some reason.

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There is a 0% chance

There is a 0% chance Stephenson goes back to the bench for Granger and George is now the starting 3. They need to find a scoring 2-guard or a pass-first starting PG allowing Hill to be that 6th man and scorer (it's what Hill does best)

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how was lebron not aggressive

how was lebron not aggressive down the stretch? i guess shot attempts are clear correlations to passiveness. If you watched the game, you would have seen 80% of the heat's offense down the stretch was based on lebron's penetration but o you know he passed it out of his double team so just being passive.

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Do you have highlights of

Do you have highlights of this? LeBron wasn't that agressive down the stretch. The Heat were pretty stagnant. Wade hit a couple of shots, off the dribble and in transition. But no LeBron wasn't dominating the game passing out of double teams, Indiana rarely double teamed him and pretty much played him man up (eventually leading to their demise).

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LeBron James in the 4th and

LeBron James in the 4th and OT:

12 points
4 rebounds
4 assist

I don't know about you but that doesn't seem half bad for 17 minutes of play. Per 36, that comes out to about 25PPG, 8.4 RPG, 8.4 APG.

Sounds pretty good to me.

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My biggest problem with

My biggest problem with anyone defending Hibbert being out:

LEBRON JAMES GOT AN UNCONTESTED LAYUP.

How can you defend them taking Hibbert out? For Hansbrough? Because of the unbelievable speed of Hansbrough? Oh no, if Hibbert is out there maybe he passes it to Ray Allen with 0.0 seconds left so he could a brick another shot that he clearly couldn't get off in time.

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I don't blame Vogel for

I don't blame Vogel for having young in there on the last play over hibbert. With 2 seconds left, you have to expect screens all over the court to get a guy free since there shouldn't be enough time to go one on one off the dribble and get all the way to the rim. I can't understand how everyone is pointing fingers at anyone other then George there. He didn't even get screened, he just ran past lebron and allowed him to go 20 feet with zero resistance.

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You expect LeBron James to

You expect LeBron James to have the ball. If Hibbert gets lost and Bosh gets an open jumpshot, that is 100X better than LeBron getting a layup. A. They probably will give it to LeBron anyway there, and B. He has a much better chance of missing that.

You're facing LeBron. You have a rim protector. Must stop possession, he is in the game. End of story.

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You have 5 quick shooters on

You have 5 quick shooters on the court for Miami. You have to be ready to switch all screens and not lose your man. That's not hibberts strength. Even the most basic of man to man defense should never have allowed anyone to get a free driving lane in 2 seconds. George makes lebron use 2-3 dribbles or throw some pump fakes he never has time to drive 20 feet in 2 seconds. There shouldnt have been the need for a rim protector. That's on George for allowing his teammates to play 5 on 4 and not even giving them time to make a rotation.

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I agree with you 100%. This

I agree with you 100%.

This is squarely on Paul George. He played great during the clutch, but he blew it on that play.

He has to put it behind him and be ready for next game.

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This is why Indiana gave Sam

This is why Indiana gave Sam Young a max contract over the summer. Oh, wait.

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