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- Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:26pm #31356
Ball Is LifeParticipantI think this is a rather weak draft and Jonas Valaciunas is the only legit big man from the 2011 draft.
Not saying he’ll provide immidiate help to the Raps, but unlike Motiejunas and many many other European bigs, Jonas Valanciunas doesn’t play "soft" and has better potential than anyone in the draft to be a post presence. He is almost 6’11" (currently 6’10.75" but only 18y/o), is a great shotblocker and post defender, was the MVP and gold medalist of the U16 and U18 European Championships.
He is a project still, just like Sullinger, Kanter or Thabeet even. He is just 230lb, which is light for a center. But he’s just 18, and hopefully he’ll gain some weight later on. He has a bigger frame than Perry Jones for example and he should be able to gain some muscle but we don’t know yet. Anyway, he defnitely has the better post game(esp. defensively) than other bigs in the 2011 draft.
Valanciunas has the potential to be a good post presence in the league as his shotblocking and post defending ability are so apparent for his age. His game is totally different to typical European bigs, other than Milicic u rarely see a natural shotblocker/post defender from Europe but Valanciunas is one of the very few.
I don’t want you guys to hate on me for this, but I do think that everybody is underestimating Valanciunas and it isn’t necessarily fair for him. I’ve provided valid points, and give me some feedback 🙂Thumbs me up if you agree!
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:40pm #560194
OhCanada-ParticipantPlease dont make this like YouTube where everyone says thumbs up if you agree… I would really feel uncomfortable.
Kanter and Thompkins are byfar better offensive post presences. Seems like Valanciunas is a premiere rebounder despite his slight weight. He is not as athletic as people advertise him to be, which will be extremely noticeable when he comes to the NBA. He should be a very serviceable rebounder, shot disturber/blocker, with a bit of offensive touch. I think his defensive game is similar to an aggressive Andris Beidrins, and his offensive game similar to an aggressive Nenad Kristic (although he will score more garbage points). Put those two together and you have a very good player.
0- Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:41pm #560198
Ball Is LifeParticipantlol im new here as you can probably tell idk how everything works just trying to fit in..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:41pm #560264
Ball Is LifeParticipantlol im new here as you can probably tell idk how everything works just trying to fit in..
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- Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:40pm #560260
OhCanada-ParticipantPlease dont make this like YouTube where everyone says thumbs up if you agree… I would really feel uncomfortable.
Kanter and Thompkins are byfar better offensive post presences. Seems like Valanciunas is a premiere rebounder despite his slight weight. He is not as athletic as people advertise him to be, which will be extremely noticeable when he comes to the NBA. He should be a very serviceable rebounder, shot disturber/blocker, with a bit of offensive touch. I think his defensive game is similar to an aggressive Andris Beidrins, and his offensive game similar to an aggressive Nenad Kristic (although he will score more garbage points). Put those two together and you have a very good player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:41pm #560196
ilike.panochasParticipantHe went #5 overall with questions about his buyout. How is he being underestimated or overlook?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:41pm #560262
ilike.panochasParticipantHe went #5 overall with questions about his buyout. How is he being underestimated or overlook?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:43pm #560204
ilike.panochasParticipantI don’t think Raptors fans hates him, I think there’s just some uncertainty just like every International prospects.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:43pm #560270
ilike.panochasParticipantI don’t think Raptors fans hates him, I think there’s just some uncertainty just like every International prospects.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:02pm #560221
BasterdInABasketParticipantHow bout kanter. He could be the best player from this draft.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:02pm #560289
BasterdInABasketParticipantHow bout kanter. He could be the best player from this draft.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:08pm #560225
Ball Is LifeParticipantForgot about Kanter lol 🙁 sorry
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:08pm #560293
Ball Is LifeParticipantForgot about Kanter lol 🙁 sorry
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:51pm #560290
boshjonesfordParticipant5 years from now Jonas is going to be considered the best player from this draft along with Enas Kanter….(bold prediction i know)
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:51pm #560358
boshjonesfordParticipant5 years from now Jonas is going to be considered the best player from this draft along with Enas Kanter….(bold prediction i know)
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:54pm #560292
ilike.panochasParticipantNot really that bold, considering it was a weak draft and there are no real blue chip/sure fire prospect in this class.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 1:54pm #560360
ilike.panochasParticipantNot really that bold, considering it was a weak draft and there are no real blue chip/sure fire prospect in this class.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 2:33pm #560402
PlatypusParticipantthis guy is only going to be an andreis biedrins
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 2:33pm #560335
PlatypusParticipantthis guy is only going to be an andreis biedrins
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 2:53pm #560424
buckeyefan17ParticipantBig positive for Jonas is he will actually be playing a full basketball season next year….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 2:53pm #560357
buckeyefan17ParticipantBig positive for Jonas is he will actually be playing a full basketball season next year….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:02pm #560430
JimmeredYaWabafetParticipantQuincy Pondexter is the next Antonie Wright
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:02pm #560363
JimmeredYaWabafetParticipantQuincy Pondexter is the next Antonie Wright
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:14pm #560444
Ball Is LifeParticipantDo you guys ever feel like everybody on this website hates you? :'(
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:14pm #560377
Ball Is LifeParticipantDo you guys ever feel like everybody on this website hates you? :'(
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:49pm #560399
Memphis MadnessParticipantI have been saying that a Derrick Williams-Hickson-Valenciunas front line would have been good for the Cavs.
Not sure what grade I gave the Raps but I think he will be good next to Bargs and will form a good three big man rotation along
with Ed Davis.I like next year’s draft for the Raptors now as it consists mainly of small forwards and guards. No centers so it is good they already drafted one.
Then if they win the lottery they can go with Harrison Barnes at small forward and move DeRozan to the 2. Or they can get Austin Rivers or one of the point guards if they don’t get a top 3 pick.0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:49pm #560466
Memphis MadnessParticipantI have been saying that a Derrick Williams-Hickson-Valenciunas front line would have been good for the Cavs.
Not sure what grade I gave the Raps but I think he will be good next to Bargs and will form a good three big man rotation along
with Ed Davis.I like next year’s draft for the Raptors now as it consists mainly of small forwards and guards. No centers so it is good they already drafted one.
Then if they win the lottery they can go with Harrison Barnes at small forward and move DeRozan to the 2. Or they can get Austin Rivers or one of the point guards if they don’t get a top 3 pick.0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:53pm #560401
BloodyCrumpetParticipant"Do you guys ever feel like everybody on this website hates you? :'("
Yes. The trick is to find someone else to pick on, to make yourself feel big.
McTonka is a goober, and he’ll never be a forum all star.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:53pm #560468
BloodyCrumpetParticipant"Do you guys ever feel like everybody on this website hates you? :'("
Yes. The trick is to find someone else to pick on, to make yourself feel big.
McTonka is a goober, and he’ll never be a forum all star.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:57pm #560407
OhCanada-ParticipantDemar Derozan already plays SG, and Bargnani is on the block…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 3:57pm #560474
OhCanada-ParticipantDemar Derozan already plays SG, and Bargnani is on the block…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 4:22pm #560443
jkim37Participantbargnani needs to do less commercials for primo pasta and do more work in the gym.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 4:22pm #560511
jkim37Participantbargnani needs to do less commercials for primo pasta and do more work in the gym.
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